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post May 6 2008, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ May 6 2008, 09:14 PM)
Inzaghi seems more effective in the air because of his positioning, but Gila is still better overall in the air.

There was a point last season where all (or most) of his goals were aieral
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Yeah, could very well be. He's 6-2, while Pippo only crosses 5-11. So he's got a fair height advantage. Plus, he's physically stronger too. But no two words about it, these three have got the best heads. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Ambro is still the king of headers, though.
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post May 6 2008, 06:57 PM
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From now on, posts that don't relate to Flamini(directly or indirectly) in this thread, will get deleted.
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post May 6 2008, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 6 2008, 04:44 PM)
I'll criticise anyone if they deserve it, if Maldini puts in a bad performance, it's no different than if Dida does, he deserves the same criticism.
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QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ May 6 2008, 05:13 PM)
Thats the right attitude. People for some reason think that certain players are immune from criticism, that is not the case. Praise when necessary criticise when required. We cant just turn a blind eye for sentimentaility.
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Flamini is a good player and you two will rot in hell for what you said!

Is this alright Max!??

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post May 6 2008, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ May 6 2008, 02:18 PM)
In a way, yes, it is strange. Thing is, Massimo has had a horrible time with injury. I think this is the first season in a very long time that he hasn't (touch wood) been out for an extended period on injury. And while he sometimes tackles just as well as Paul Scholes does (no offense to either intended), I think Max is having a very good campaign. He's absolutely adored by the couple of people I know who have season tickets, who credit him for having more heart than anyone else on the team.
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Actually it's the second (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE (acid911 @ May 6 2008, 03:09 PM)
Sometimes I think the word legend gets thrown around too often! I mean to be called a legend you have to prove your undying love for a particular club. Paolo, Baresi, and Billy are the only three who deserve the tag. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Case in point: Rui Costa. He's as big a legend as any for Benfica - despite playing the best part of his career in Italy. It's his love that took him back there to spend the last few years in front of his home fans. He's as adored there as Paolo is in Milan.

Kaka will snug in an all-time Milan XI with ease. Give him some time to be called a legend. He's one in the making. And if he spends another six, ten years donning the Red and Black, no one can deny him the status. Look at Sheva, he made one bad call and not many people call him a legend. So is Inzaghi. Irrespective of all the million dollar goals he's scored for us, he's still a far cry from being called a legend. He's one of our best performing players of all time, nonetheless, but a legend? No thank you.

A legend is someone like Batistuta - how many medals and trophies he missed by staying loyal to Fiorentina? You can't count them if you tried. He could have sleepwalked into the top 3 clubs of that time, but he spent seven years there. Ditto for Rui Costa, who after spending five years was sold to us because of financial troubles at Viola. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Respect the word LEGEND. It's not something you see often.
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 6 2008, 03:22 PM)
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Costacurta was an integral part in the gli invinsibli era, he formed what was then known as the old guard (the best defense Europe even saw) ..
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You probably mean the World (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE (acid911 @ May 6 2008, 03:23 PM)
I'd put Inzaghi second behind Ambro, but then again that's just me. Gila is a very strong, physical player (when he's in the mood), with a very decent header. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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I think Gila is stronger than both Pippo and Max in the air

QUOTE (acid911 @ May 6 2008, 03:50 PM)
Come to think of it, they weren't playing to their potential earlier. Just got into the knockout stage after that wonder goal from Piero. Very un-Italian like, I'd say. They had one of the best squads in the World Cup ever. Maldini, Nesta, Cannavaro, Totti, Vieri, Del Piero, Buffon, Toldo, Zambarotta, Gattuso. Oh, my! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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Actually it's a very Italian way (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) they always have a bad (average) start and reach the final

QUOTE (Tennie @ May 6 2008, 04:07 PM)
Will Raymond Domenech ever call Flamini up again, given his aversion to calling up French players who play for Italian clubs?
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Partially true. Actually the creep hates Italians (especially since the WC final) and doesn't like the players who play in a foreign leagues (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) but it doesn't mean he will not call them, half of the French players play in a foreign league, and the creep doesn't like changes at all. His main problem is that he's revengeful, you better not have an argument with him or tell him he's clueless or bye bye selection (Giuly, Pires, and ... Frey) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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QUOTE (morgoth @ May 6 2008, 06:59 PM)
Actually it's the second  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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You probably mean the World (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
I think Gila is stronger than both Pippo and Max in the air
Actually it's a very Italian way (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) they always have a bad (average) start and reach the final
Partially true. Actually the creep hates Italians (especially since the WC final) and doesn't like the players who play in a foreign leagues (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) but it doesn't mean he will not call them, half of the French players play in a foreign league, and the creep doesn't like changes at all. His main problem is that he's revengeful, you better not have an argument with him or tell him he's clueless or bye bye selection (Giuly, Pires, and ... Frey) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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I would say he dislikes Serie A more than anything. Frey (but to be fair he played poorly in his last match vs Ukraine) Mexes, Trez etc

Flamini has very little chance of making the national sqaud. He like EPL, but thats only because half the France squad is located there
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QUOTE (nuh @ May 6 2008, 01:30 AM)

Thanks, nuh. I've only seen some of his goals, but the video showed him in better light. Wonder why they've nicked him Gattuso? He's a cross between Gattuso and Pirlo. Can makes passes and score goals, as well as dictating the midfield. Hope he fits into the team fast.

About his appearance, well he looks, um, French! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post May 10 2008, 06:37 PM
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post May 11 2008, 04:26 AM
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Here's my translation of the 'Flattuso' article on uefa.com's italian page (it doesn't appear on the English page). link

There are few doubts that AC Milan is the most 'Brazilian' team in Italy. Not only for the presence of many players from that South American country - there are 8 on the squad - but also for the style of play that Carlo Ancelotti has transmitted since his arrival in November 2001. The first acquisition of the next season for the rossoneri, Mathieu Flamini, could represent an inversion of this tendency; but in reality, the protagonist - albeit an involuntary one - of the acquisition of the French midfielder, arriving on a free transfer from Arsenal, is another Brazilian: Gilberto Silva.

Fantastic Partnership
Flamini came to the Gunners in 2004, thanks to payment of a FIFA indemity given that he hadn't signed a professional contract with Olympique Marseille, the team where he played in the youth ranks. In the first three years, Arsene Wenger didn't use him with regularity, to the extent that the midfielder stated a desire to change teams last summer. But in August, the extra vacation given to Gilberto Silva, who played in the Coppa America, gave him room to begin the seasion as a starter: he won the place on the team and never gave it up, forming a fantastic partnership with Cesc Fabregas.

“Flattuso”
The 'ifs' and 'buts' have never made football history, but it's possible that without playing for his national team, Gilberto Silva wouldn't have lost his starting position and Flamini wouldn't have had the occasion to get MIlan's attention. In an irony of sorts, the French midfielder was nicknamed 'Flattuso' by his Arsenal teammates, as his style of play is similar to that of Gennaro Gattuso. It's a comparison that Wenger acknowledged too: the two, next season, will be teammates.

More Offensive
The nickname was given 'by the African players at Arsenal, because' said the Frenchman, 'I never give up.' But the comparison with 'Ringhio' hasn't convinced Flamini. 'It's true that they call me that and that he's a great footballer', Flamini said some months ago, 'I don't want to sound disrespectful of his style because he's a marvellous footballer, but I think I'm different, more offensive. In any case, I want to have my own identity in the footballing world.'

Italian Father
The comparison with Gattuso isn't the only tie between Flamini and Italy. His father, Roland, was born in Rome and he's got relatives in the Eternal City. The midfielder, therefore, understands and speaks our language and this can ease his transition. The former player of OM and Arsenal is being called to break a taboo at Milanello, where French players haven't always met expectations. Having such problems include, among others, Patrick Vieira (one of the midfielders Flamini admires along with Roy Keane), Christophe Dugarry and Yoann Gourcuff, while Marcel Desailly was a pleasant exception to the rule.

Ancelotti Satisfied
What convinced Milan to buy Flamini was probably the two Champions League matches in which Arsenal denied Milan the chance to retain the trophy. 'He's a great player', said Carlo Ancelotti before the transfer, 'when he played against us he showed great dynamism and ability, someone like him could do well in any team. He's a great buy.'

Less Talkative
Flamini was less talkative. 'I'm very happy, thank you very much,' he said after passing his medical and signing a 4 year contract. His performance this year has been exceptional, with 30 games in the Premier League and 8 in the Champions League, with three goals scored. To prove himself in Italy, he'll be able to give them a definite sign.
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Flamini & Cesc at Flamini's farewell party. Milan's new Frenchman is already getting into the right mindset: he's wearing Dolce & Gabbana (note the DG on his shirt). (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif)
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Is that Hleb in the background? Hope he doesn't have a farewell party anytime soon!
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QUOTE (Tennie @ May 11 2008, 01:45 PM)
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Flamini & Cesc at Flamini's farewell party. Milan's new Frenchman is already getting into the right mindset: he's wearing Dolce & Gabbana (note the DG on his shirt).  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif)
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Flamini: I Might Have Stayed If Only...

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Mathieu Flamini has admitted that Arsenal's failure on all fronts this season has directly influenced his decision to leave the club for Milan.

Most reports cite the lure of the euro as the motivation behind Flamini's decision, but the French internationl insinuated that he made up his mind a result of Arsenal's failure to land silverware and Milan's oh so effective charm offensive.

When pressed on whether ultimate success in the Premiership or the Champions League might have convinced him to stay, Flamini said: "That would have weighed in the balance. It would certainly have counted.

"I actually wanted to sign a new contract at Arsenal last July but it didn't happen. AC Milan did so much to sign me I couldn't refuse," he added.

"What happened to us after leading the league for so long was the most painful experience I had during four years at Arsenal."

Flamini, 24, recently put pen to paper on a four-year deal with Milan said to be worth a staggering £70,000 a week

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Its hard to believe a footballer these days.
Now, not playing in CL next season is a really smart step-forward plan.
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QUOTE (Devillito @ May 12 2008, 12:20 AM)
Sshheessh
Its hard to believe a footballer these days.
Now, not playing in CL next season is a really smart step-forward plan.
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Lol, yeah as is earning 70,000 pounds a week. No wonder Gattuso is leaving. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I'll hold my verdict until Flamini's first season in Milan has ended.
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QUOTE (Devillito @ May 11 2008, 08:20 PM)
Sshheessh  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Its hard to believe a footballer these days.
Now, not playing in CL next season is a really smart step-forward plan.
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£70.000 a week must be a joke (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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