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May 6 2008, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ May 6 2008, 05:43 PM) I dont think dst meant that. It didnt even really sound like he implied it. What dst is trying to say is that kaka has a long way to go before he can match Costacurta's stature. Billy was around for so long, suffered, bled and gave everything for a longer amount of time than Kaka. There is no doubt in my mind that Kaka will be a legend, just at the moment he is a hero For god's sake! didn't I say IF Kaka continues to play for Milan and retire in here?! when did I compare Kaka (of right now) with Billy? when?! (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I can't remember saying "Kaka is better than Billy" or anything like that! I just said my opinion about Kaka and wasn't even thinking about Billy when I wrote the second part! here's my damned post. QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ May 5 2008, 11:26 PM) ^^ Oh come on! we can't retire all the numbers we have... But one of the numbers I'm already sure we'll retire is 22. (no need to say if Kaka retires at Milan). there are very few players in Milan's history who have contributed to Milan's success as much as Kaka has [and will in the future]. I said we can't because we didn't! I say we will because there's a good chance that it will hapen. I even said #22 is not an important number in any club. it's different from #9 or #5. the fact that new players pick #22 is Kaka. he made it famous! QUOTE (acid911 @ May 6 2008, 05:43 PM) I don't believe that to be the case. The whole Italian team combined can't shine a light to the talent and skills this guy has got. But you just can't compare him to Billy. Yet. The guy gave two decades to this club, and got nothing in return. Everything Kaka touches turns to gold. He's the best paid, and most respected player in the world. Tell me anyone else that's better? And if five or ten years down the road some people adore Kaka, then he'd have earned the legend status. Trust me on this one, Z. (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) PLEASE TELL ME WHEN DID I COMPARE HIM TO BILLY? WHEN??????????? (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) what a funny forum this is... they put words that don't belong to you in your mouth and bash you for nothing...
This post has been edited by zdrossoneri: May 6 2008, 03:29 PM
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May 6 2008, 03:30 PM
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Prima Squadra
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QUOTE (acid911 @ May 6 2008, 02:26 PM) Both. But you can't deny they sucked. Even against Korea, Vieri missing all those easy chances, Del Piero was no where to be seen. Gattuso making his stupid little runs to the goal. Maldini was the only player putting his guts on the line. It just wasn't an Italian game if you ask me. (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) The Italian team of 2006 will walk over Korea 92 times out of hundred. It wasn't the best Italian performance, but they should have gone through. Wrongly disallowed goals, penalties not given, unfair sendings off.. I would have said it was just unlucky Italy, but when it happened to Spain too, FIX! (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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May 6 2008, 03:34 PM
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zd, your 'oh come on' post was directly after dst's post saying that the #5 should have been retired. That's why people think you're dissing on Billy.
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May 6 2008, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ May 6 2008, 05:52 PM) You are not a kid, Z ... Your an adult now ... So I am sure, you can tolerate other's views (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) You guys were talking about having the number frozen .. Costacurta, has given much more to Milan than Kaka' ... Not discarding Kaka' ofcourse, for he is by far Milan's best player atm ... Costacurta is a legend to this generation, the one before it, the one before that, the one before that also, and for the one before that too .. Costacurta has been playing with Milan long before Silvio Berlusconi came to Milan. Costacurta was an integral part in the gli invinsibli era, he formed what was then known as the old guard (the best defense Europe even saw) .. And has won countless trophies. Hence, dst said if Milan didn't freeze Costacurta's number for the years of service, why should they freeze Kaka's number (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ... When he said that 'disgrace' it was when you asserted that Kaka' had done more etc etc .. Pippo ? what has he got to do with this ? ... Well for the record, he wont get his number frozen! And Pippo is no where near Costacurta, Paolo or Baresi .. In terms of legendary status he is a legend, as is MVB, etc .. But he didn't give as much as Paolo, Costacurta or Baresi ... If there is one player (other than Maldini) on our current lineup worth freezing his number, it is Ambrosini (because of the years of service he has given, but even then he is no where near Costacurta or Maldini)! p.s. Kaka', Pippo, etc these guys have written their names into Milan's history and ten or twenty years down the road, Milanista's will be talking about them ... But not in the same breath as they would for Costacurta, Baresi or Maldini (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) When did I say "Kaka has done more than Billy"?? answer my question right now!! (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Let me answer it myself because you have this habit of twisting topics and I don't want this silly discussion to go on any longer. this is what I said: There are very few players who have contributed to Milan's success as much as Kaka has [and will in the future]. Is that saying Kaka has done more than Billy? I wasn't even thinking about Billy when I wrote this but what if that "very few" includes Billy too? And am I talking bullsh1t about Kaka's contribution to Milan's success? do you need me to name them? Don't ever put words in my mouth again.
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May 6 2008, 03:45 PM
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Token Girl
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Okay, everyone. Cool down. Yes, this includes me too.
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May 6 2008, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ May 6 2008, 05:43 PM) When did I say "Kaka has done more than Billy"?? answer my question right now!! (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Let me answer it myself because you have this habit of twisting topics and I don't want this silly discussion to go on any longer. this is what I said: There are very few players who have contributed to Milan's success as much as Kaka has [and will in the future]. Is that saying Kaka has done more than Billy? I wasn't even thinking about Billy when I wrote this but what if that "very few" includes Billy too? And am I talking bullsh1t about Kaka's contribution to Milan's success? do you need me to name them? Don't ever put words in my mouth again. (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Bottom line .. Costacurta didn't get his shirt frozen. Kaka' doesn't deserve it.
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May 6 2008, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 6 2008, 07:30 PM) It wasn't the best Italian performance, but they should have gone through. Wrongly disallowed goals, penalties not given, unfair sendings off.. I would have said it was just unlucky Italy, but when it happened to Spain too, FIX! It was undeniably a fix. That pot smoking referee in the Italy vs Korea game. But it also wasn't the Men In Blue's best performance either. They could have slotted in at least three goals, and then no power on earth could have fixed it. Korea was and is a middle of the road team. (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Come to think of it, they weren't playing to their potential earlier. Just got into the knockout stage after that wonder goal from Piero. Very un-Italian like, I'd say. They had one of the best squads in the World Cup ever. Maldini, Nesta, Cannavaro, Totti, Vieri, Del Piero, Buffon, Toldo, Zambarotta, Gattuso. Oh, my! (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ May 6 2008, 07:28 PM) PLEASE TELL ME WHEN DID I COMPARE HIM TO BILLY? WHEN??????????? I meant "you" as a generalization. It could very well be interchanged with "one". (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ May 6 2008, 07:46 PM) I haven't seen the best years of Costacurta since he'd started playing for Milan before I wa sborn, but alot of my Italian friends that're Milan fans don't actually rate him that highly. They consider him more of a "fans favourite" than a legend. True, he wasn't as much a pure talent as Paolo. But he was very dedicated to the club, and from some of the matches I've seen, gave his all every time. Tell me one defender who won't be overshadowed by Paolo at his peak? (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) QUOTE (Tennie @ May 6 2008, 07:45 PM) Okay, everyone. Cool down. Yes, this includes me too. +144545154574513. This is a Flamini thread after all, and if this is the sign of things to come, God have mercy on us. Hehe. (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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