I dont think dst meant that. It didnt even really sound like he implied it. What dst is trying to say is that kaka has a long way to go before he can match Costacurta's stature. Billy was around for so long, suffered, bled and gave everything for a longer amount of time than Kaka. There is no doubt in my mind that Kaka will be a legend, just at the moment he is a hero

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Oh come on! we can't retire all the numbers we have...

But one of the numbers I'm already sure we'll retire is 22. (no need to say if Kaka retires at Milan). there are very few players in Milan's history who have contributed to Milan's success as much as Kaka has [and will in the future].

I don't believe that to be the case. The whole Italian team combined can't shine a light to the talent and skills this guy has got. But you just can't compare him to Billy. Yet. The guy gave two decades to this club, and got nothing in return. Everything Kaka touches turns to gold. He's the best paid, and most respected player in the world. Tell me anyone else that's better?

And if five or ten years down the road some people adore Kaka, then he'd have earned the legend status. Trust me on this one, Z. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Both. But you can't deny they sucked. Even against Korea, Vieri missing all those easy chances, Del Piero was no where to be seen. Gattuso making his stupid little runs to the goal. Maldini was the only player putting his guts on the line. It just wasn't an Italian game if you ask me. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

The Italian team of 2006 will walk over Korea 92 times out of hundred.

I said we can't because we didn't! I say we will because there's a good chance that it will hapen. I even said #22 is not an important number in any club. it's different from #9 or #5. the fact that new players pick #22 is Kaka. he made it famous!

You are not a kid, Z ... Your an adult now ... So I am sure, you can tolerate other's views (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

You guys were talking about having the number frozen ..

Costacurta, has given much more to Milan than Kaka' ... Not discarding Kaka' ofcourse, for he is by far Milan's best player atm ... Costacurta is a legend to this generation, the one before it, the one before that, the one before that also, and for the one before that too .. Costacurta has been playing with Milan long before Silvio Berlusconi came to Milan. Costacurta was an integral part in the gli invinsibli era, he formed what was then known as the old guard (the best defense Europe even saw) .. And has won countless trophies. Hence, dst said if Milan didn't freeze Costacurta's number for the years of service, why should they freeze Kaka's number (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)   ... When he said that 'disgrace' it was when you asserted that Kaka' had done more etc etc ..

Pippo ? what has he got to do with this ? ... Well for the record, he wont get his number frozen! And Pippo is no where near Costacurta, Paolo or Baresi .. In terms of legendary status he is a legend, as is MVB, etc .. But he didn't give as much as Paolo, Costacurta or Baresi ... If there is one player (other than Maldini) on our current lineup worth freezing his number, it is Ambrosini (because of the years of service he has given, but even then he is no where near Costacurta or Maldini)!

p.s. Kaka', Pippo, etc these guys have written their names into Milan's history and ten or twenty years down the road, Milanista's will be talking about them ... But not in the same breath as they would for Costacurta, Baresi or Maldini (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

When did I say "Kaka has done more than Billy"?? answer my question right now!!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Let me answer it myself because you have this habit of twisting topics and I don't want this silly discussion to go on any longer. this is what I said:

There are very few players who have contributed to Milan's success as much as Kaka has [and will in the future].

Is that saying Kaka has done more than Billy? I wasn't even thinking about Billy when I wrote this but what if that "very few" includes Billy too?

And am I talking bullsh1t about Kaka's contribution to Milan's success? do you need me to name them?
Don't ever put words in my mouth again.

It wasn't the best Italian performance, but they should have gone through. Wrongly disallowed goals, penalties not given, unfair sendings off.. I would have said it was just unlucky Italy, but when it happened to Spain too, FIX!

PLEASE TELL ME WHEN DID I COMPARE HIM TO BILLY? WHEN???????????

I haven't seen the best years of Costacurta since he'd started playing for Milan before I wa sborn, but alot of my Italian friends that're Milan fans don't actually rate him that highly. They consider him more of a "fans favourite" than a legend.

Okay, everyone. Cool down. Yes, this includes me too.

Yes he made it famous. But If they didn't freeze Costacurta's number, why would they freeze Kaka's ?

Because Kaka' won the Ballon D'or ? World player of the year ? CL 07 ? .... Costacurta is one of the pillars of Milan's supremacy today! He has won as much as Paolo Maldini.

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Bottom line .. Costacurta didn't get his shirt frozen. Kaka' doesn't deserve it.

There's not one bit of sense it what you say.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) let's just stop it.

should we say it's a disgrace his name is mentioned next to Billy's?!

I'd put Inzaghi second behind Ambro, but then again that's just me. Gila is a very strong, physical player (when he's in the mood), with a very decent header. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)