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post Apr 2 2008, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 2 2008, 06:09 AM)
Should we compose a 'get well soon' card/letter?
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why not.
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post Apr 2 2008, 11:49 AM
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'Get well soon' thread is in the 'Other' section. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 2 2008, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Apr 2 2008, 09:32 AM)
Curse? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) come one captain! it's all our management's irresponsibility and you know it. starting the season with such a thin, injury-prone squad has NOTHING to do with this fantasy world stuff..! even a few member on this forum could see this happening [remember bigmac?], how on earth our management with +20 years of experience could not?!
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Here here (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

What a compete joke we are becoming (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Apr 2 2008, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 2 2008, 07:10 PM)

Don't say that or some will say your NOT A TRUE MILANISTA. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 2 2008, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE (Porty @ Apr 2 2008, 06:14 PM)
Don't say that or some will say your NOT A TRUE MILANISTA.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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I'm afraid I really don't give a f*ck what some children might think! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 2 2008, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 2 2008, 11:10 PM)
What a compete joke we are becoming
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I almost thought that was Porty talking! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

But you're right on this count - we've been pretty bad for two consecutive seasons, if not more. For a club like AC Milan playing catch up for fourth place for two years, is almost like battling for relegation, if not worse.
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post Apr 2 2008, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Apr 2 2008, 08:35 PM)
I almost thought that was Porty talking! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

But you're right on this count - we've been pretty bad for two consecutive seasons, if not more. For a club like AC Milan playing catch up for fourth place for two years, is almost like battling for relegation, if not worse.
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Indeed, and like I keep saying it is something that really could have been avoided. Trying to be cheap doesn't always work (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Apr 3 2008, 04:26 AM
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Oddo being injury prone is news to me. So I take it the only player who's 'not' injury prone in our team is Gilardino....no wait..he had the flu too!

Darn it! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

We had 3 players playing at RB...Oddo...Cafu...and Bonera...and that's the heirarchy.

What are the odds that at a crucial point in the season, you'd be down to the last possible person?

The LB position is a fair argument, that was something that should have been fixed last season. Grimi maybe shouldn't have been loaned (on hindsight of course (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )

I really think this has been a pretty unlucky season, while last season was pretty lucky. Ronaldo coming in and making a difference when he did. Player's outperforming their usual standards is lucky. Multiple players in poor form with unforeseen injuries is bad luck.

I'm not saying we're the only club with that problem...but that doesn't mean it's not there.
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post Apr 3 2008, 04:52 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Apr 3 2008, 03:26 AM)
Oddo being injury prone is news to me. So I take it the only player who's 'not' injury prone in our team is Gilardino....no wait..he had the flu too!

Darn it! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

We had 3 players playing at RB...Oddo...Cafu...and Bonera...and that's the heirarchy.

What are the odds that at a crucial point in the season, you'd be down to the last possible person?

The LB position is a fair argument, that was something that should have been fixed last season. Grimi maybe shouldn't have been loaned (on hindsight of course (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )

I really think this has been a pretty unlucky season, while last season was pretty lucky. Ronaldo coming in and making a difference when he did. Player's outperforming their usual standards is lucky. Multiple players in poor form with unforeseen injuries is bad luck.

I'm not saying we're the only club with that problem...but that doesn't mean it's not there.
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it's not like oddo's young, and besides the 3 games kaka's missed all season i dont see any of these unforeseen injuries. the only real injuries we've had have been for players that were expected to have them. if anything we're lucky ambro has played more than 5 games all season.

how poor form considered unlucky? :rolleyes. if it's that easy, you can qualify anything as unlucky.
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post Apr 3 2008, 05:14 AM
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Oddo has done well for us. There have been a couple occasions when you ask what he is doing but its a lose for our width and defense. But then again what defense do we have anyways?
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post Apr 3 2008, 05:32 AM
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QUOTE (Habitant @ Apr 3 2008, 09:22 AM)
it's not like oddo's young, and besides the 3 games kaka's missed all season i dont see any of these unforeseen injuries. the only real injuries we've had have been for players that were expected to have them. if anything we're lucky ambro has played more than 5 games all season.

how poor form considered unlucky? :rolleyes. if it's that easy, you can qualify anything as unlucky.
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Like who? Seedorf? Rino?

Other than Ronaldo and Sergio, who else has been an 'injury' threat?

And the Ronaldo thing was unfortunate. It wasn't even the same weak injury that's been happening for some time.

And besides by this yardstick, I can safely say that Man U is a pathetic squad(since they have no 'cover' for Rooney and Ronaldo). Arsenal is pathetic since they have no cover for Fabregas. And what about Chelsea without Drogba? Pizarro? Since Sheva is considered a non-entity.

And Roma have Totti and Vucinic? And we know TOtti is injury prone. So Vucinic is their last line. So Roma have been lucky Vucinic hasn't had an injury.

I'm not saying our squad isn't understaffed. I'm trying to say, that some of what you guys want, like a 70,000 euro per week player on the bench is not really easy. Especially when your profits are a fraction of what teams in England and Spain earn.

As for Inter...well...two more years of winning just the scudetto and they'll be in quite a mess. -120 mill euro deficit. How cool is that?

Don't forget, Milan and Inter cannot mortgage their stadiums like Man U can.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Apr 3 2008, 01:05 PM
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Ok, so let's revise the facts of our situation now

Dida - don't know what the hell is wrong with him now, but even if he was fit I wouldn't trust him in goal either way.

Kalac - had a couple of brilliant games, but the say here goes like this, form is temporary, class is permanent. Galliani might have thought that he got out of having to buy a keeper because of how Kalac played in a couple of games but we all knew that his form wouldn't last long

Our entire defence - slow or injured, we don't have any fullbacks now, Janku is stillnot 100%, now Oddo, Cafu and Serginho don't seem like they're even part of the team any more, so why bother?

The midfield - Just run into the ground because there is no other alternative then to have them play every single game, Pirlo can barely walk atm, Rino is going through a rough patch atm which also stems from exhaustion, same goes for Seedorf. Kaka is being constantly rushed from injury only to play a couple of minutes and his knee flaires up again

Pippo - plays one game, is out for the mext month

Ronaldo - I don't even think that he qualifies as part of the team anymore

At this moment we barley even have a team anymore. I don't know how our management are able to see this as just a low wave (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) We clearly have serious problems. And I can't understand how Galliani is able to come out and say that the fans just forget and not admit that things need to change

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post Apr 3 2008, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Apr 3 2008, 04:32 AM)
Like who? Seedorf? Rino?

Other than Ronaldo and Sergio, who else has been an 'injury' threat?

And the Ronaldo thing was unfortunate. It wasn't even the same weak injury that's been happening for some time.

And besides by this yardstick, I can safely say that Man U is a pathetic squad(since they have no 'cover' for Rooney and Ronaldo). Arsenal is pathetic since they have no cover for Fabregas. And what about Chelsea without Drogba? Pizarro? Since Sheva is considered a non-entity.

And Roma have Totti and Vucinic? And we know TOtti is injury prone. So Vucinic is their last line. So Roma have been lucky Vucinic hasn't had an injury.
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Manu have a pathetic squad? Are you sure? SAF has been rotating all season and are top of the Prem and still in CL. In fact they are probably playing the best football of their season! They couldn't be where they are with a pathetic squad IMO

As for Vucinic, he has done wonders for Roma. He's impressed when he's been called upon, and Spalletti hasn't burned him out by playing every single game! that has helped keep him fit this season.

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Apr 3 2008, 04:32 AM)
I'm not saying our squad isn't understaffed. I'm trying to say, that some of what you guys want, like a 70,000 euro per week player on the bench is not really easy. Especially when your profits are a fraction of what teams in England and Spain earn.
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But we're paying Dida £4m a season to sit on the bench! another masterstroke by our general manager who is always saying how poor we are :roleyes:

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Apr 3 2008, 04:32 AM)
As for Inter...well...two more years of winning just the scudetto and they'll be in quite a mess. -120 mill euro deficit. How cool is that?

Don't forget, Milan and Inter cannot mortgage their stadiums like Man U can.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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I'd rather be fighting fourth and not have much chance of CL next season rather than winning Lo Scudetto as well (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

As for Manu, yes they are in a big debt, but they are paying it off and strengthening their squad with quality players. And they were in credit before the Glazers came (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 3 2008, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 3 2008, 12:05 PM)
Ok, so let's revise the facts of our situation now

Dida - don't know what the hell is wrong with him now, but even if he was fit I wouldn't trust him in goal either way.

Kalac - had a couple of brilliant games, but the say here goes like this, form is temporary, class is permanent. Galliani might have thought that he got out of having to buy a keeper because of how Kalac played in a couple of games but we all knew that his form wouldn't last long

Our entire defence - slow or injured, we don't have any fullbacks now, Janku is stillnot 100%, now Oddo, Cafu and Serginho don't seem like they're even part of the team any more, so why bother?

The midfield - Just run into the ground because there is no other alternative then to have them play every single game, Pirlo can barely walk atm, Rino is going through a rough patch atm which also stems from exhaustion, same goes for Seedorf. Kaka is being constantly rushed from injury only to play a couple of minutes and his knee flaires up again

Pippo - plays one game, is out for the mext month

Ronaldo - I don't even think that he qualifies as part of the team anymore

At this moment we barley even have a team anymore. I don't know how our management are able to see this as just a low wave (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) We clearly have serious problems. And I can't understand how Galliani is able to come out and say that the fans just forget and not admit that things need to change
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Yet another quality post han (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) just a shame Galliani can't read it!
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 3 2008, 02:19 PM)
Yet another quality post han (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)   just a shame Galliani can't read it!
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Yeah well if he read it he'll only say that "fans forget too quickly" (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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