This one is clearly a personal opinion kinda thing as each individual has their own definition of what a 'big game' is. For me, I'd say no, he's not a flop. He's yet to play in the latter stages of the CL, and seems to play well enough in Serie As big games.

Hahahahahahaha that made me laugh (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

And IMHO the big nosed camel face is extremely overrated, I'm just glad we never signed him. I wish we had signed Torres though!

Agree.

(What is this with the consistent insulting of camels?????)

I'd not have minded Ibra at Milan, actually. However, it's highly unlikely to happen now so better not to dwell.

Agreed. It's almost one of my erotic fantasy having a fit Ronaldo along with Sheva = very remote possibility, like you said. Same with Kaka and Ibra on the left and right. So no sense in dreaming. There's always FIFA Manager 07, though. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

it's amazing how people can blow things out of proportions, he's played in 5-6 big CL matches with juve and inter algtough i remember him doing pretty good with ajax in latter stages of the CL so it isnt true he's never stepped up. you'd swear he was the flop of the century and last week some of you were were talking about regretting not getting him. the guys been constantly great in big and small serie a match , he does so by dominating games with assists taking on defenders, runs flicks,thru balls, etc. (remember him owning nest and maldini last year in both legs?).

then again how many people have been amazing in the CL? i can count the number of big games ronaldinho has played in the CL. he was good in 2-3 games when barca won the CL but thats it... if ibra is a flop then ronaldinho isnt too far off.

This post has been edited by bigmacmtl: Mar 12 2008, 05:44 AM

hence why he is called flopaldinho (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

for around 3+ years he was considered the best player in the world. i dont know many players that have done that in recent times, how can you even call him a flop?

i look at seasonal form. This season so far he hasn't done anything really impressive. He is overvallued and is definetly not one of the best players in the world, hence flopaldinho. Too much "bullshit" ads sayin hes good cause he can juggle a ball (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

the whole discussing isnt about this season so i dont know where you get this? btw you dont win the golden ball and fifa world player of the world award by just being good at dribbling the ball. and again if ur gonna judge ronaldinho's worth (who is still a good player despite not being the best in the world right now) like that then you can call the whole milan team a bunch of flops.

^^

Except Gila of course... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

^^^

Yeah, Gila is way beyond flop. He's on the new fiasco level that exclusively just for him (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

This post has been edited by mishale: Mar 12 2008, 07:21 AM

Well he is doing slightly better than Sheva at Chelsea... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

A lot better actually. He's scored this season... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

*runs*

Even with Sheva's worst season ever (this one) he still has 7 goals in 17 games while Gila this season has 9 goals in 33 game, so.... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)