I think it's been established that we don't care about the coppa Italia to actually TRY to win it. Carlo has shown this by the teams he fields for the coppa games.

In England they take the domestic cups much more seriously. And Mourinho used to field a good team even in the carling cup. The same can't be said for Milan.

As for how good Carlo is in the CL, I think the record proves itself. If you look past the last 2 seasons, we've always done good in both competitions.
Getting second in the league and losing by 3 points and reaching the CL semi, or CL final is damn good imo. Yes the last 2 seasons we had to give up the league to compete in the CL but in the end that comes down to poor management since we don't have a team that is equiped enough to fight on both fronts


I personally agree with having Jose as our new coach I think the team needs someone like him. Someone to renew the team's interest, especially in the league.

I'm just saying that Carlo is just as good, but has his weak points just like any coach

This post has been edited by han2503: Dec 30 2007, 05:03 PM

It's probably stupid of me to even post on this thread because I suspect the majority of others will tear me apart again for having this view, but I'm going to give it one last try.

Jose Mourinho is a talented coach. He had good success with Porto (which I rate more highly than success with Abramovich's Chelsea).

But you've all seen the way he is with the press, constantly blaming the ref, blaming the other players for being divers (hello! The Porto team were HORRIBLE at diving. They did it all the time), etc etc etc. Jose Mourinho HAS NO CLASS. He never takes responsibility for things going wrong, he runs his mouth off all the time, and it - to me - negates any positives his coaching credentials might bring. I despised Chelsea last year in no small part because of this man. He represents everything about professional sports that I dislike.

And let's face it, guys. There ARE other quality coaches out there. Lippi for example. Let's also remember that Berlusconi and Fester have repeatedly stated that Carletto's successor will be from the Milan family.

So....No to Mourinho. Ever. This guy will drag Milan down into the gutters Inter currently occupies. We can do better for a new coach. The team and club deserve better.

Exactly (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Well yes the man we saw in Chelsea makes me feel just the same, I don't want that in Milan! But I'm asking again: Berlusconi has ensured that no such man has coached Milan in his era so wouldn't you give Mourinho a chance if he was chosen by the President!??

To conclude (I've posted my opinion on Mourinho in it's entirety) here's what I think. Jose Mourinho is a great coach who has a loathsome personality. I would never want the man Mourinho in Milan. But I believe that if he ever came to Milan as Silvio Berlusconi's choice he would not be the same man thus I would welcome him.

Last but not least, I suppose that he won't be Milan's coach next season.

100% agreed.

hmm lemme see when mourinho blames the ref he's classless but when carlo does and galliani do it it's because their right in doing so (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) quite convenient...

I'm not even going to bother, it's always the same. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Carlo blames refs, he's right.
Jose blames refs, he's petty.

Ronaldo dives, he's a cheat.
Pippo dives, it's an art.

Silvio spends the cash at Milan, it's normal.
Roman does it at Chelsea, it's buying the league.

Loyalty clearly does cloud the judgement of some. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Just a thing:

'Ronaldo dives, he's portuguese.' (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

just a thing

ronaldo dives more often and badly! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Great post!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

need i say more (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

hey at least ronaldo holds on to the ball and beats defenders, the only time we see pippo with the ball he's either tapping it in from 6 yards or tripping over his own leg.

This post has been edited by bigmacmtl: Dec 30 2007, 08:44 PM

2 completely different types of player you can't even begin to compare, by all means criticize players but do like for like comparisons

well thats so you cant say that ronaldo dives more than pippo either.

lets say ronaldo gets the ball 40-50 times in a game and he dives 1-2.

pippo see the ball maybe 12-13 times in a game and he dives 3-4 times.

i'd say pippo dives more even if their different types of players, at least i wouldnt excuse it just cuz it's pippo and then bash ronaldo for doing it.