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 Nov 13 2007, 09:58 PM
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Allievi Regionali B  Group: Helpers Posts: 5,148 Joined: 5-October 05 From: Bristol Member No.: 558  |
QUOTE (mishie @ Nov 13 2007, 08:16 PM) ok i know nothing and you know it all..thats fair enough you'll no longer need or want to hear my opinion...leave it to ya (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)  I put my piece underneath if you can't be bothered to answer that then your ignorance is not my fault. And BTW my sarcy answer was in response to your sarcastic smilie, it seems you can't handle what you dish out (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Nov 13 2007, 10:13 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 2,623 Joined: 26-December 05 From: Inghilterra Member No.: 1,072 |
how can be can't be bothered be classed as ignorance?
as for the piece underneath you'd already said it about disowning the ultra's and i answered it...i'm not in the habit of repeating myself....unless you don't understand of course (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Nov 14 2007, 01:47 PM
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Insert cool title here<--  Group: Moderators Posts: 4,121 Joined: 7-May 06 From: Berlin, Germany Member No.: 1,792 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 13 2007, 08:44 PM) Brilliant insight !!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) The Euro has increased the gap between rich/poor in Europe (middle class is diminishing at the same rate) .. More importantly, exports are decreasing (and not only from Italy, but all over the EU). One of the main issues why GB wont convert from it's Sterling. About the Ultras, yeah, I remember you talked about them earlier ... And a radical change such as what the Amato had taken, needs time for the Ultra's to take in, as they have been given such privileges for sometime now. What u say about the Euro and the xports...it's just not true pal. Many european countrys do export more than in their entire history. Germany for example exports more wares than any other country in the world (they didn't before the euro). And if export are diminishing now this has nothing to do with the Euro but with the weak dollar. GB just won't give away they're sterling because they're more sentimental about their money than others. Plus, they're generally more scpetic about the EU than the french or the germans. About the "Ultra situation": IMO it can't go one like this. I dunno what to do, but if there's not something big happening soon, the Serie will bleed to death soon. For one the good players will leave in some years. And then...what kinda league is this in which even the players admit that they wouldn't take their own children to a Serie A game? This post has been edited by LaPalma: Nov 14 2007, 01:52 PM |
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Nov 14 2007, 02:12 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Nov 14 2007, 03:47 PM) What u say about the Euro and the xports...it's just not true pal. Many european countrys do export more than in their entire history. Germany for example exports more wares than any other country in the world (they didn't before the euro). And if export are diminishing now this has nothing to do with the Euro but with the weak dollar. GB just won't give away they're sterling because they're more sentimental about their money than others. Plus, they're generally more scpetic about the EU than the french or the germans. But it is a fact that the Euro has increased the cost of living in Euro countries .. We agree here, right? If we agree here, then we can also agree in that the Euro has caused a decrease in exports from those countries, because of it's high value in ratio to lets say the Dollar, per your argument. I don't know about the Euro countries exporting more now than in their history, because their products are much more expensive now .. For obvious reasons. Actually the GB Sterling is one of the safest currencies in the world. Many securities are bought in Sterling. And in the FX market, it is the most in demand atm. |
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Nov 14 2007, 02:47 PM
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Insert cool title here<-- Group: Moderators Posts: 4,121 Joined: 7-May 06 From: Berlin, Germany Member No.: 1,792 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 14 2007, 02:12 PM) But it is a fact that the Euro has increased the cost of living in Euro countries .. We agree here, right? If we agree here, then we can also agree in that the Euro has caused a decrease in exports from those countries, because of it's high value in ratio to lets say the Dollar, per your argument. I don't know about the Euro countries exporting more now than in their history, because their products are much more expensive now .. For obvious reasons. Actually the GB Sterling is one of the safest currencies in the world. Many securities are bought in Sterling. And in the FX market, it is the most in demand atm. Wel...certainly the steerling is a very safe currency. But so is the Euro. But did the Euro really increase the costs of living? Well...I can't tell for any country but at least in Germany empirical studies showed, that the living costs didn't increase more than they did in previous years. QUOTE For obvious reasons. Talking about which obvious reasons? |
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Nov 14 2007, 03:24 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
Check ur PM LaPalma.
This post has been edited by Rossoneri7: Nov 14 2007, 03:36 PM |
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Nov 14 2007, 06:41 PM
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Esordienti A 95 Group: Full Members Posts: 595 Joined: 26-October 05 From: Lincoln, England. Member No.: 735 |
QUOTE It's more to do with identifying the trouble makers than just stopping Serie A for no reason. QUOTE The issue here shouldn't be the Laziale's death from the policeman's gun. It ought to be why in the Bergamo there was no protection?!! Or why the ultras were allowed to stop the match in the first place. QUOTE The police are scared to go into curvas, that is why there is always problems there. Perhaps if they were to go heavy handed into the curvas then things might change, but I read that if the Italian police attack Italian people there is an outcry, but if the police attack foreigners then there is no problem. No wonder there is so much trouble in curvas. BTW I don't think all the ultras are bad, it seems that a minority spoil it for the majority. QUOTE One big reason in stopping football violence over here was that they stopped putting it in the papers - the troublemakers (Who just wanted to be known as 'bad ***') were then not getting any exposure, people had no idea who these idiots were so they gave up on it. Obviously there's still a few people that do it, especially when it comes to playing in Europe, because they know it'll get noticed. QUOTE true, italian soccer has gotten out of hand, but i, too, agree that it would accomplish nothing. when people want to disrupt something, they won't stop just because you hold off games for a couple of months. i feel like the gov't has lost control of its citizens and is trying to blame soccer for it...the gov't needs to punish its people...not the clubs. Exactly, this is what we should be trying to do. Once this is done they will be dealt with & the problem will be solved. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Yes, because that is a social matter & not a footballing one. In relation to the Atalanta-Milan game, yes that should be the issue but I doubt it will be looked into or that something will be done about it. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Yes, the Italian police are nothing but a bunch of bullies, and bullies are nothing but cowards. They won't hesitate to beat up innocent/defenseless English fans but when it comes to Italian ones they are scared. They are right to be scared but even so it's their job, they need to act with integrity (which is seemingly too much to ask for). (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I thought there were supposed to be stewards in the grounds now, obviously they didn't show up either. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Yea, the lack of exposure has helped in England. However (football) hooliganism will never go away, there's still a lot of it going on because the "firms" will never die. Yea it still goes on in Europe, you only have to look at Tottenham in Spain (against Valencia/Sevilla? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ) throwing chairs at the police (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Spot on (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) football's being made a scapegoat here when it should be the government/society under the spotlight, not Serie A! This post has been edited by milanista1899: Nov 14 2007, 06:45 PM |
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Nov 20 2007, 03:35 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
That would be stupid, it's what those fanatics want!
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Nov 20 2007, 04:14 AM
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Loves Greek Women esp Fay Group: Moderators Posts: 14,924 Joined: 19-May 06 From: Bangalore,India Member No.: 1,865 |
^^^
(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Was that your attempt to have the last word on the subject?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
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