The ultras are terrorists disguised as football fans. Pure and simple. They will destroy the league unless they are properly dealt with. It worked for the EPL, so I don't know what the hell's taking us so long.

What the hell happened ?!

All this for a death of a Lazio fan ?!?! I mean, people die every single day (don't mean to sound immoral, but what the f2ck ?!) ... I came on to check the result and this is not something new that the match got canceled. It happens in Serie A ... But if the reason for the cancellation was such, then every game should be canceled (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Anyways ... This would mean the team gets more rest before the Cagliari match. Which is not a totally bad thing ..



About the Ultras, I couldn't agree more ... even though they have been the throbbing heart of Italian football, they shouldn't be given such authority as to end matches and all that ..

In the short run, it will benefit us, however that match now has to be scheduled in somewhere else and with the CWC coming up that means even more rescheduled matches.

Less work today, more tomorrow

It will most definitely be before the x-mas break, therefor before the CWC ... Yeah, I get what your saying .. but at least the players get this week off, if u know what I'm saying to maintain their form. Especially after that CL match in Ukraine ...

i guess human life is worth less where your from.

A policeman "accidentally" killed a popular DJ and Lazio fan. Last season a policeman died and they cancelled all the games, so the Ultras were upset the same thing didn't happen this season.

Upset doesn't cover it. They threatened 'bad things' if Atalanta-Milan weren't called off. They've sacked the CONI (Italian olympic committee) offices in Rome, attacked police stations in Rome and (I think) Milan, blocked major thoroughfares near Roma's Stadio Olimpico, etc.

The tragic death of the Rome DJ (at a gas station/cafe in Tuscany, not close either to Rome where he was from or Milan where the game was to be held) should perhaps have led to the cancellation of all games.

That, however, in no way excuses the rioting that these organized mobs have done using the DJ's death as an excuse.

It's like the Rodney King riots all over again.

I acknowledge that ... But, again, not trying to be immoral, if they were gonna go with this logic, then they might as well cancel football for good in Italy! I mean, is a Lazio fan's life worth more than that of any person that died (there are probably a good thousand + who die everyday in the world .. if not more) ... The logic is not in line with morals.

If the reasoning for the Ultras was to get the game(s) called off, just because when a policeman died the same happened ?! This is total BS! And I cant really see eye to eye with this ... Bcz a policeman is a man of authority and any aggression on him/her would be an aggression towards the government, which is logical to understand. But what makes the Lazio fan so special ?! I mean if I was to die, would they cancel Milan games for my death (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


EDIT: p.s. if the Ultras cared so much about that fan's life, they should have gone to his funeral, instead of setting chaos all over Italy! the whole issue is just not logical.

This post has been edited by Rossoneri7: Nov 12 2007, 08:53 AM

I'm guessing there was a lot of hypothesizing going on.

For starters, there would have been news that the Lazio and Juve fans had a fight and a Lazio fan died.

Then it would have been that a policeman shot and killed a Lazio fan.

Maybe they thought this was some kind of police 'vendetta' for last year.

However I must say it doesn't make sense. You don't fire live ammo into a crowd to disperse it. I've heard of water cannons and tear gas and rubber bullets, but if you're using the real stuff, you fire it into the air right? Something smells here...

L'agente è disperato "Non miravo a nessuno"

Parla Luigi S., il poliziotto dalla cui arma risulta essere partito il colpo fatale per Sandri: "Il primo colpo l'ho sparato in aria, il secondo mi è partito mentre correvo. Così ho distrutto due famiglie, quiella del ragazzo e la mia"

12 novembre 2007 - Questa mattina il Corriere della Sera riporta le prime parole di Luigi S., l'agente della Polizia Stradale dalla cui arma risulta essere partito il colpo che è costato la vita al tifoso laziale Gabriele Sandri. "Non ho mirato a niente, non ho puntato nessuno - dice tra le lacrime -. Ero almeno a duecento metri, come avrei potuto? Il primo colpo l'ho sparato in aria e il secondo m'è partito mentre correvo, accidenti a me. Adesso lo so, sono rovinato".

AGENTE SCELTO - Agente scelto, 12 anni di servizio ricchi di successi e attestati di stima, ora non si dà pace: "Così ho distrutto due famiglie, quella del ragazzo e la mia...". Dopo il primo colpo sparato in aria, secondo il regolamento, avrebbe dovuto rimettere nella fondina la pistola d'ordinanza, una Beretta 92 Sb. Ma lui non l'ha fatto, è stato imprudente: !Perché noi siamo abituati a correre nei campi per inseguire i rapinatori, i trafficanti di droga, i latitanti — lo difendono a spada tratta i suoi colleghi — e la pistola la teniamo in pugno". Stavolta, però, c'è scappato il morto. "C'era appena stata la rissa tra i tifosi laziali e juventini, una rissa violentissima — raccontano in coro i poliziotti di Battifolle —. Le auto dei tifosi stavano già ripartendo e Luigi, così, correva in parallelo al guard-rail per identificarne almeno il modello. Non lo diciamo per giustificarlo, ma per sottolineare che è stata una disgrazia. Oltretutto il proiettile, per arrivare dall'altra parte, ha dovuto superare due guard-rail a tripla onda e la rete sul new-jersey centrale. Magari ha subìto anche una deviazione...".

GUERRA SETTIMANALE - In sintonia con quanto dichiarato dai dipendenti dell'autogrill, infine, i colleghi di Luigi S. hanno spiegato che ogni fine settimana "è una guerra". Gruppi ultras dalla serie A alla C imperversano nelle stazioni di servizio, e l'episodio violento è all'ordine del giorno.

(gazzetta.it)

I pretty much get the gist of the article, but if anyone can provide a rough translation, it would be very much appreciated.

This post has been edited by BMWTaylor: Nov 12 2007, 09:16 AM

In brief, it was an accident. He was running along the guard rail to try to identify the car and hadn't returned his gun to its holster. The gun went off accidentally. He says he wasn't aiming at anyone and further that he's destroyed two families by his actions: the dead DJ's and his own.

is there anyway milan can join the EPL?

this is embarrassing

Milan would breeze through the EPL ... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

You give Kaka' and Ronaldo such space .. and with our defense, the English teams wont stand a chance!


btw ... Nothing will come of this, it is an isolated issue .. The FIGC wont halt the league, as it will commence without much difficulty. Maybe they'll cancel one match day, but that is it !!

The media just took this issue and stretched it to the extent of making it look like an embarrassment.

Dude, it's a hell of a lot more than an embarrassment. Unless mass riots don't mean anything to you, or attacks on police barracks, or sacking of sporting office or of stadiums.

As for the FIGC halting the league, they may not have a choice with the government stepping in.