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han2503
Just saw that we're playing a Lega Pro team tomorrow at 6pm (CET). Milan channel will be showing the re-run at 9, going to check if sky will be showing it somewhere live
Danny
Yeah 5PM for us in Blighty I believe. SES will be playing in this one as will Alex.
han2503
QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 15 2014, 10:15 PM) *
Yeah 5PM for us in Blighty I believe. SES will be playing in this one as will Alex.

Yeah. He'll also be playing Rami in midfield as he has no midfielders atm aside from Primavera players.

Mastour should get the second 45 minutes as well, which will be exciting to see
Danny
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 15 2014, 09:19 PM) *
Yeah. He'll also be playing Rami in midfield as he has no midfielders atm aside from Primavera players.

Mastour should get the second 45 minutes as well, which will be exciting to see


Where's Cristante?
Jack Sparrow
Odd thing. Honda seems completely left out of all the team talks and discussions.
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jul 16 2014, 06:27 AM) *
Odd thing. Honda seems completely left out of all the team talks and discussions.

Well every international player that took part in the world cup hasn't really been mentioned, they're still all on holiday
Jack Sparrow
Hmm true. He did talk of Balotelli joining the team again in US. Surprising that no one asked questions about Honda, considering he is our Asia golden ticket.
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jul 16 2014, 09:35 AM) *
Hmm true. He did talk of Balotelli joining the team again in US. Surprising that no one asked questions about Honda, considering he is our Asia golden ticket.

In reality, I do think Balo is the only name out of the internationals on peoples' minds. His future is unclear atm. De Jong and Abate being the only other question marks

As for the others, I think it's being taken for granted that they will be part of the squad for next season
Jack Sparrow
Yeah you're probably right. Forget Honda, they haven't even mentioned Muntari the Magnificent.
rip
any streams?
han2503
http://calcion.me/live1.htm
rip
thanks
rip
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Jack Sparrow
Anyone saw the match. I saw the goals. Both came in from Zaccardo crossing. What do you think of the game as such? Is Saponara an option for the midfield three?
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jul 17 2014, 06:20 AM) *
Anyone saw the match. I saw the goals. Both came in from Zaccardo crossing. What do you think of the game as such? Is Saponara an option for the midfield three?

He looked good, but really this was a 2nd division Lega Pro side, I don't think it's a good basis to make a judgment off of. Against better sides he'd get pressured off the ball way too easily in midfield.

That being said, I think it all depends on how Pippo lines the midfield up, which could allow for Honda (as x-off has been campaigning for) or Saponara to play in midfield and be sufficiently covered by the other 2 players (probably De Jong and Poli). Still I think we're in desperate need of another CM, preferably someone creative who's not afraid to get stuck in either.
arivanjj
highlights

those haircuts. smh.
han2503
Niang is still as crude, brutal and uncultured on the ball as ever, heard some French team wants him, we better offload him ASAP before he becomes unsellable
han2503
@ Jack, this is what Pippo had to say regarding Honda

QUOTE
“Honda is not back yet. He will join us in NY on the 22nd. He is a fantastic player and a great professional. I like him. We haven't decided where he should play yet. If we go for three forwards he could play on the right. I like the type of players like him. (Honda possesses the style and characteristics I like.) He can also play on the left in the three man midfield. But that is to do with technical matters. I’ll decide on positions after the transfer market is closed. I don't like fitting players into a system. I first look at ability and characteristics of each player and find the most appropriate position for him, the positions that can maximize their good points. That is what the coaching staff and I have been thinking about at the moment.”



Side note; So far I'm really liking what Pippo has to say with regards to systems, tactics and how he'll use his players.
Danny
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 17 2014, 12:44 PM) *
@ Jack, this is what Pippo had to say regarding Honda




Side note; So far I'm really liking what Pippo has to say with regards to systems, tactics and how he'll use his players.


Apart from the fact Honda fell out with Seedorf for playing him on the right...

So, so far I'm hearing DS on the right, and now Honda.

Why is Pippo making the same errors Seedorf did?
han2503
QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 17 2014, 03:47 PM) *
Apart from the fact Honda fell out with Seedorf for playing him on the right...

So, so far I'm hearing DS on the right, and now Honda.

Why is Pippo making the same errors Seedorf did?

Last I read DS was considered a LB for Pippo. I guess the uncertainty around Abate could push him to the right which I'm not crazy about as he's very average there. As I said to Fillipo, selling Abate and getting Criscito will mean weakening our FB area as DS would have to shift to the right and Criscito isn't as good as Abate anyway.

As for Honda, was there really anything indicating that he and Seedorf fell out?

We heard a lot of things about players who had issues with him, namely Abate, Monto, Abbiati but I never heard anything about Honda.
Danny
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 17 2014, 02:54 PM) *
Last I read DS was considered a LB for Pippo. I guess the uncertainty around Abate could push him to the right which I'm not crazy about as he's very average there. As I said to Fillipo, selling Abate and getting Criscito will mean weakening our FB area as DS would have to shift to the right and Criscito isn't as good as Abate anyway.

As for Honda, was there really anything indicating that he and Seedorf fell out?

We heard a lot of things about players who had issues with him, namely Abate, Monto, Abbiati but I never heard anything about Honda.


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“I often speak to Seedorf, as his English is excellent, so it is easy to understand each other. Above all at the beginning I didn’t understand a lot of things, so I went to his room to get into more detail.

“At the start I didn’t feel at ease on the right, but Kaka is already in the centre and he’s playing well, so I need to find my space.

“Things are going a little better compared to the first few games. Of course the centre is my home, as I love to play behind the striker, but Seedorf said I have the qualities to play on the right and players do need to adapt at times.

“We have different philosophies, but the important thing is to have a dialogue. We talk every day.”


Between the lines is a player who is far from happy there. But generally the Japanese are a polite people and unlikely to publicly castigate.

PS there's a friendly in like 2 hours v Monza. Thread?
han2503
QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 20 2014, 03:20 PM) *
Between the lines is a player who is far from happy there. But generally the Japanese are a polite people and unlikely to publicly castigate.

PS there's a friendly in like 2 hours v Monza. Thread?

I'll change the thread name and we'll talk here about it as it will be pointless to open countless threads for friendlies which end up having only 1 or 2 pages of posts (if that)

The game is at 6 pm CET for anyone interested in watching, I'll try to find a stream link closer to kick off
han2503
Probable formation

MILAN (4-3-3): Abbiati; Zaccardo, Rami, Bonera, Constant; Poli, Modic, Saponara; Niang, Pazzini, El Shaarawy. All.: Inzaghi
Fillipo Simone
Who's Modic?
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 20 2014, 03:48 PM) *
Who's Modic?

Primavera kid, very promising imo, we saw him last season in a couple of friendlies under Allegri as well
TriniKing_CE
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 20 2014, 11:35 AM) *
Probable formation

MILAN (4-3-3): Abbiati; Zaccardo, Rami, Bonera, Constant; Poli, Modic, Saponara; Niang, Pazzini, El Shaarawy. All.: Inzaghi

OFFICIAL line-up vs Monza (4-3-3): Abbiati; Zaccardo, Bonera, Alex, Constant; Poli, Cristante, Saponara; Niang, Pazzini, El Shaarawy.

Milan bench: Agazzi, Gabriel, Robinho, Rami, Albertazzi, Mastalli, Pinato, Benedicic, Di Molfetta, Modic, Simic, Mastour.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 20 2014, 03:48 PM) *
Who's Modic?


It's Modric, Han misspelled his name. That's right, we signed frigging Modric! tongue.gif
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X-Offender
If Pippo has plans on playing Saponara as LCM, then I see no reason why he can't play Honda there as well.
Fillipo Simone
Too slow and out of form?
Fillipo Simone
Good God, I really do dislike the new shirts. Font, colors, stripes, nothing seems to be in line. And the English cross? That's maybe retro, but a tad too much if you ask me.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 20 2014, 05:11 PM) *
Too slow and out of form?

More like rushed and confused
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 20 2014, 05:16 PM) *
Good God, I really do dislike the new shirts. Font, colors, stripes, nothing seems to be in line. And the English cross? That's maybe retro, but a tad too much if you ask me.

They look like PJs
han2503
Niang is so brutal on the ball, even when he tries to make a simply pass. It's like he's playing Fifa and letting to power-up reach red
han2503
Niang is so brutal on the ball, even when he tries to make a simple pass. It's like he's playing Fifa and letting the power bar reach red
Fillipo Simone
Nah, this match is a waste of time to watch. Too early to tell anything. It's just a warm-up.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 20 2014, 05:28 PM) *
Nah, this match is a waste of time to watch. Too early to tell anything. It's just a warm-up.

Yeah, I've switched off, I'll try to see some extended highlights.
TriniKing_CE
69min

Niang with a penalty. 1-0 Milan
TriniKing_CE
My stream finally ended up dying after sticking several times.

My twitter is blowing up with heaps of praise for Mastour who apparently provided a really nice assist.


AC Milan ‏@acmilan 14m
75' Goooooooal! Mastalli beats the keeper with a powerful shot, well served by Mastour! #ACMilan vs Monza 2-0
TriniKing_CE
FT: 2-0 Milan
TriniKing_CE
Not the greatest quality video (or best camera angle), but her is a video of the second goal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyS3QaraZkg&hd=1


...just 3 minutes after Mastour's introduction in the game.
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Danny
People seem to have had problems watching this...

Points to note:

1: Mastour. Wow. 16 years of age and he looks like he's been doing it for years. We could have a total gem on our hands here. His setup play for Mestalli was absolutely excellent. And don't say 'it's only Monza'. Because Mastour is 'only' a kid.

2: Pippo. His passion on the sideline is very Conte-esque. He wants his players to work, and tbh, they did. Thery respond to him, they respect him, because they know he respects them.

3: Shirts are growing on me. Don't like the crest much but the design is starting to seep into my consciousness.

4: A real positive of Pippo is he is more than happy to give youth a chance. These are kids he reared in Primavera, and they trust him. And now here he is, giving them the same chance in the first team.

While it's incredibly early days, and Monza are not Real Madrid I saw more passion out there from the manager and players than I can remember pretty much the whole of last season.
Danny
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Jul 20 2014, 05:54 PM) *
Not the greatest quality video (or best camera angle), but her is a video of the second goal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyS3QaraZkg&hd=1


...just 3 minutes after Mastour's introduction in the game.
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His arrogance on the ball was amazing, but with end product. I don't mind a player loving themselves a bit and being slightly cocky, as long as they can deliver. And he did.
han2503
The kid is looking very good so far. Obviously this isn't a level of opposition where you can really judge, but I think it's a good test in terms of his physique and strength and whether or not he is ready to play with the seniors.
TriniKing_CE
Good stuff Danny thanks for the post!

I have to say the shirt is also beginning to grow on me a bit as well (certainly don't 'like' it still, but its not horrible)

The England like crest though I don't care for it, I also prefer our usual emblem.

TriniKing_CE
In the event anyone's interested, I added a couple pics to an earlier post on the 2nd page I think.

Here are just a few more, nothing special, but just to add to the moment I guess.











Danny
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 20 2014, 06:01 PM) *
The kid is looking very good so far. Obviously this isn't a level of opposition where you can really judge, but I think it's a good test in terms of his physique and strength and whether or not he is ready to play with the seniors.


From what I saw he'd do no bloody worse than Balotelli!

Agree the opponents aren't quite marquee, but the experience is vital.
Danny
Great pics Trini.
TriniKing_CE
My main worries regarding Mastour (which I am sure are very much the same for many of you on here) are:

With all the hype surrounding him he is placed under too much pressure and expectations from the fans would be unrealistic.

However, should he be able to deal with the above mentioned, I'd still also fear for his safety in the league. As many of you expressed as well, with this young mind and small stature, defenders and so forth from opposing teams are not going to take kindly to his style of play and may intentionally attempt to injure him, and that would be a damn shame.
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