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Fillipo Simone
Not a nice award, but should be interesting at least.
X-Offender
Mesbah, no doubt. What's the word, abysmal?
Rossoneri7
Aquilani, I rate Muntari higher.
Jack Sparrow
Quality-wise it was Mesbah. But I went with Robinho. Considering what was expected and what was actually delivered.
Fillipo Simone
Mesbah provided the worst performances overall, Robinho was the biggest disappointment. Yet the most irritating thing last season for me was Emo as AM. An insult to all the creators we had in the past.
Zed.D
Emo...? ah I see.

Worst Milan player was Mesbah for sure.
Jack Sparrow
Emanuelson! C'mon..you knew that!! biggrin.gif
Zed.D
I swear I struggled for a minute to understand who "Emo" was. we never called him that!
Fillipo Simone
Actually we did, plenty of times smile.gif
KillerMax
I saw two games in which Mesbah played last season. In one he was decent and the other had a poor game. But nothing that warrants the comments I see here. Can someone who saw more of him explain to me how he actually achieved such low with us? What did he do? huh.gif
Zed.D
What did he do? played like a Serie B player, that's all. the better the opposition got, the shittier he turned out to be. I think it was against Arsenal where everyone made up their mind that this guy has no business playing for Milan.
CHU-LIP
Mesbah, easily.

Even if you ignore his three attempts to give away a penalty kick against Barça during one match.


I can't follow why people voted for Aquilani, by the way. In my opinion he was our best midfielder pre his injury, and after that, he never was given a fair chance. We actually really missed him, his creativity.

Same goes to Antonini, who in my opinion has been our best full-back this season. He actually saved us often during games we had no Thiago Silva. Abate has been disappointed at times this season.

Also I don't feel like Emanuelson deserve it either. He has done well, but obviously didn't bring what we wanted as attacking midfielder. If anything, he did way better than I originally expected from him.
han2503
How can anyone not vote for Muntari??

He made the task of watching Milan a chore for me. Such a ridiculously mediocre player!

Mesbah didn't play enough game to be considered our worst player, while Robinho and Aqui had their moments when they produced some great stuff. Aquilani was never given the chance to get back into the team once Allegri discovered Muntari!

As for Urby, it's not his fault that Allegri views every player as an AM aside from players that are actually AMs
Jack Sparrow
I actually thought Muntari was awesome. He did more for us than Brocchi ever has for example...and I think he costs just as much. I stand by the decision to buy him. He is an excellent squad player to have for that 3rd mid0field spot if/when Noce is out or when our tactics dictate rough housing and physique instead of guile.
kurtsimonw
But his name is Muntari?
X-Offender
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 25 2012, 06:58 PM) *
I actually thought Muntari was awesome. He did more for us than Brocchi ever has for example...and I think he costs just as much. I stand by the decision to buy him. He is an excellent squad player to have for that 3rd midfield spot if/when Noce is out or when our tactics dictate rough housing and physique instead of guile.


You do realize though that Allegri used him as our playmaker in midfield, which automatically makes his performances unwatchable.
kurtsimonw
It's funny. At Pompey Muntari was great, KPB replaced him and Pompey fans never felt he was anywhere near as good. Now it's the other way around! The player not good enough for Portsmouth is good enough Milan. Funny old game indeed. biggrin.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 25 2012, 04:54 PM) *
How can anyone not vote for Muntari??

He made the task of watching Milan a chore for me. Such a ridiculously mediocre player!

Mesbah didn't play enough game to be considered our worst player, while Robinho and Aqui had their moments when they produced some great stuff. Aquilani was never given the chance to get back into the team once Allegri discovered Muntari!

As for Urby, it's not his fault that Allegri views every player as an AM aside from players that are actually AMs

You do know that Muntari played just 2 more matches then Mesbah whom according to you didn't play enough games?
X-Offender
Mesbah played much more than what an atrocious player like him deserves.
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 26 2012, 04:30 AM) *
You do realize though that Allegri used him as our playmaker in midfield, which automatically makes his performances unwatchable.


Yes, but I did say that the man in the hole in our 4-3-1-2 is not meant to be a playmaker. His job is to win the ball back high up the field and release it to the strikers or our box-to-box players. Sure KPB does it better than Muntari...but well...KPB was not available.

And Muntari did pretty well when he was in the mid-field three. Of course he flies into tackles and what not, but there are worse things you can be doing as a player.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 26 2012, 10:18 AM) *
Yes, but I did say that the man in the hole in our 4-3-1-2 is not meant to be a playmaker. His job is to win the ball back high up the field and release it to the strikers or our box-to-box players. Sure KPB does it better than Muntari...but well...KPB was not available.

And Muntari did pretty well when he was in the mid-field three. Of course he flies into tackles and what not, but there are worse things you can be doing as a player.


But Allegri didn't play Muntari behind the strikers. He either kept playing Emanuelson there or Boateng when he was fit. Muntari played the majority of our games as Aquilani's replacement, and that's what pissed me off the most. Look, we played four midfielders (MvB, Aquilani, Nocerino, Boateng), out of which only Aquilani had the skills to be labeled a playmaker. The other three were mostly DM's and box-to-box mids, with little creativity. So why on earth would you replace the only player who has some vision in our midfield with a brainless idiot that can barely pass the ball to save his life? The fact that Aquilani was injured should have prompted Allegri to play Emanuelson as LCM, and one between Robinho and El Shaarawy as AM when Boateng was out as well. At least that way our midfield would have maintained some little creativity. But with MvB, Noce, Muntari and Emo? Even a club like Lecce could afford a better midfield. And then Aquilani got back and Allegri gave him the cold shoulder. He kept playing Muntari there game after game, oblivious to any kind of logic.
Jack Sparrow
Look, why he didn't play Aquilani is something we've debated to death here and the only explanation is so we wouldn't be forced to buy him. I've criticised his formation as well with 1 DM and 2 runners as well.

For me the 4-3-1-2 or the diamond requires (at least) two creative passers and then the 2 workers. We can see how Prandelli did the same thing last match.

It will not solve every single problem, but it is the only way that system can work. For me Muntari and Noce are interchangeable, except against those really weak opposition when we can give our very limited creative resources a rest.
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 26 2012, 12:39 AM) *
You do know that Muntari played just 2 more matches then Mesbah whom according to you didn't play enough games?

Maybe it's because Mesbah's appearances were spread out because I don't remember him playing as much. The only game of his that really sticks out is that nightmare against Arsenal.

Muntari played a lot of games once he came in, practically started every game, and practically made me want to tear my hair out every time
Jack Sparrow
^
Really? Hmm...I dunno. Maybe coz I interpret his role completely differently or something.
anano1214
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