Viva Espana!

This is not funny anymore. Something has to give. They win the national title and walk off with a 77 million loss??!

I looked.

More than 1/2 of the current operating loss for Barca is due to tv and marketing ocmpanies not paying the club what they're owed, so a lot of the 77MM can be wiped pretty easily.

Not sure where the 442MM debt figure comes from -- some of it is, I believe, capital debt for renovation of Camp Nou. That's a little bit different than just being in debt.

And for what it's worth, the prior regime (Laporta) didn't actually release full financials. So the profit figure from last year isn't necessarily accurate. It's my impression that Laporta and his group weren't very good managers of $$$ and the new regime is at least being honest about it.

(And goal as usual is sensationalizing everying. I really dislike that website).

Sevilla - Barcelona 2-1 Ibra 1-0 first half then Kanoute and Fabiano stepped up!
Lovely, I love to see Barcelona lose

3-1

Well, it was more Sevilla 3 - 1 Barca youth squad +3. None of the Barca guys who played in the world cup for Spain were fielded and Messi only came on partway through the second half. Maxwell was fielded as a winger, ffs. I wouldn't be too cheerful just yet, Samira. The second leg is at Camp Nou and it'll be a radically different Barcelona squad.

MOURINHO MOURINHO MOURINHO MOURINHO! F@CK BARCA!@

You're totally sounding like a Barca fan (:

And you seem happy about that.

Notice the smiley is inverted. That means this!

Wtf...

And people expect people to know that???? Smiley language is too complicated for me. Once I got accused of something by using a typical smiley. F*** people who put meanings into smileys!

So sorry. Didn't know I wasn't permitted to say anything positive about any club other than Milan.

Take it easy Piranha! I didn't mean it in a bad way at all...


I inverted it because I wanted a smiley, but not this> smiley!


Um... no. but I'm not unhappy about it either. it was just an observation.

Dude...I was only lying. Read the avtar and weep.




No you're not. I sentence you to be burnt on the stake for heresy. Ooh...I wanted to do this for so long. Grilled Sushi Rice for the win!!!

You should be sorry. Thank you for that. I cannot stand Barça, nor Spanish NT. Puyol, Iniesta, ... urgh..... hopefully Mourinho deals with these scum.

I'd rather never watch football again than ever support anything connected with that miserable creature.

that's the sad part
I know in Saturday

Second leg of the Spanish Supercup was yesterday. Barcelona started most of their regular 11.

FT Barca 4-0 Sevilla (Messi hat trick, Konko own goal).

Poor heartbroken Pique managed to stifle his sorrow enough to play today. FT Racing 0-3 Barca (Messi, Villa, Iniesta).

Madrid couldn't beat Mallorca This turned to be a very good evening.

So what's with the whole Pique-Ibra deal? I've been reading on forums and people making jibes at them being heart broken. Have I missed something epic happening?

You missed this, han. Came out last spring:

Behold:

I like acid's version better. It has captions.

Yeah, that's why I posted it. At first when I saw your image, I thought what the hell, it says everything. But the captions on this one was too good to pass. Having said that, I still can't believe Han missed the episode as it happened. I mean, I of all people, caught the story the same day the picture came out.

I have seen the pic before but totally forgot about it since in my mind which doesn't really like going to those types of conclusions, they're obviously about to engage in a 'man hug'. Only people/fish like acid and Peixinho would come up with that conclusion because of their dirty minds

You are a meaniehead!

It was the penguins

Hah. See if I share Jack's rum with THEM again!

To be honest, I can't imagine where during a man hug such a picture can be taken...

You're so naive!

You my friends are a hipocrate. Of the highest order, I may add. Dirty minds, bah! See Zed.D got it, he's either very smart, or a straight shooter. Probably both. And you are just one clever little bird.

(Is the hippo a friend of Pola?)

You got that one right. Pola like keeping influential friends at hand in case of penguin trouble!

The part where the 2 people taking part in the man hug grab each other's hand and are about to bumb opposite shoulders It's pretty obvious


Don't you mean my friend, not friends, I am only one person after all

@ the fish, me and the penguins are Vodka people/animals, we don't need your rum

You caught me there!

Barca 0-2 Hercules.

Madrid 3 points tonight please.

Barcelona 0 - 2 Hercules

Valdez twice.

Heaven! And agreed, Kurt, nothing less than 3 will do for Madrid.

Hopefully Madrid slip up again. Highly unlikely though

Carvalho gives Madrid the win. Should have been about 5-0.

Gee, how much the Primera and Real gained with Mourinho. The bore-factor jumped for 200%.

I really hate this man and all his game-play brings into football.

I wonder how the Real fans take to him. Capello brought them the title, but they didn't like him because of his boring, defensive tactics, Mourinho brings the exact same thing to the table

If it were a few years ago, I think Jose would probably be disliked too, but the club just wants to start winning again. Mourinho is also helped by the fact he's a funny, media-friendly guy, Capello and Del Bosque are boring people.

Being serious about your work does not mean you're boring. Mourinho funny? He only likes to take swipes at people, I mean if you call that funny...

Mourinho is anything but funny, the fact that he has won so much in less than a decade is substantial. Nevertheless, he is not a character I would consider to be amusing, others might disagree as he does have a strong fan base.

In terms of class, he doesn't have any. Hence, I cant really acknowledge why his name is being paired with Capello. Sure they share the tactically oriented gameplay; where they respectively produce a team that goes by the book with respect to tactics. But on the most part, they are completely different in their approach.

Fans at Madrid are enthusiastic about Mourinho, but they also shared the same sentiments when Capello started with them. The problem is not in media frenzy or his clown-esque status, the problem is he doesn't bring with him the total football or freeflowing gameplay that you would expect under Arsene Wenger for example. He will definitely bring in results, I expect that from him, yet he wont last long as he will most likely be booed at whenever he plays 'on the defense'. Considering the squad he has, you would expect total fooball, but that is something mourinho wont consider simply because it doesn't guarantee a consistent run for a title.

Capello and mourinho are completely different coaches.


Capello brings about him order, discpline and dicatorship. He doesn't develop a close relationship with the players or anyone for that matter. He's simply their to do his job and thats what he wants to be judged on.

In some places that works, fair enough. However, in some places like Madrid that isn't enough. If you are only interested in your job then you better bring about results in a fashionable way and capello did anything but that. He had alot of 1-0s and was knocked out of the CL early on.

Furthermore, at the end of the day madrid is madrid. They are arrogant and they want to have the best of everything. While capello is very well noted in Italy and some countries in europe for being a top notch coach, many countries will argue that there are better.


Mourinho is known worldwide as one of the best coaches in the world if not the best. That brings to madrid that arrogancy they desire. Thats why pellegrini was sacked, not because he did a poor job of coaching. Its that he was ridciulued falsely by the media in several occassions and that led to the people losing faith in him.


Mourinho is an expert in dealing with the media. So even if he has bad results, he can always defer the attention somewhere else and his status won't go down.





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Now in terms of actual ability. Mourinho is by far the best coach on this planet. You can call his style boring or whatever you want but he is the complete package.


1) Discipline
2) Systems
3) Relationship
4) Media
5) Results




Furthermore,

Fabio has a 57% winning record in 573 games; mourinho has a 67% winning record in 463 games..


This alone speaks volumes! 67% is the best in the world. Better than ferguson, wenger, you name it.











There really is no comparison. If he wins the La Liga he'll be the first coach to have won it in all 3 big leagues.



though saying all this...I rank capello quite highly as well. He is no doubt in the top 5.

I agree that Jose won't last long in Spain, but I don't think he wants to. He'll win the title there and it's job done for him. The only other jobs I can see him taking in the future are the English and Portugese National Teams and United when Fergie calls it quits.

Blue I noticed that you put a number to Cappello's achievements, while with Mourinho you split them one by one Was that to make his rep sheet seem longer then Capello's?

Imo, at the heart of the matter, both are the same type of coach, they'll get you the results you want, but they don't do it in style.

I think the Real fans are going along with the hype machine that is Mourinho for now, if for some reason the results don't come and the team is not playing that free flowing football the Real fans expect from their team, they will start getting on his back, I mean these are the same fans who were starting to turn on Zidane before he adjusted to the league, and booed Ronaldo as he was awarded the Golden Ball... Something tells me Mourinho won't be immune if he doesn't deliver what they expect, which is imo both the CL and the league. And we all know that Mourinho won't have the easy ride he had while with Inter in Spain.

Fact is Capello always delivered a big title wherever he went, whether that is Roma, Juve, Milan or Real