I'm just wondering, who is your favorite player out of these two?

I love Ambro but Rino is more essential to the team.

I love Ambro more too. He's been here longer. Since 1995. Been there since I started following Milan.

But Rino does link better with Andy P.

Wow, I hate to jump on the bandwagon, but...

I love Ambro but my vote has to go to Rino. Us Calabrians have to stick together.

Massimo Ambrosini without hesitation. He is a great leader. Gattuso needs someone to put him in his place from time to time.

I also love Ambrosini and I feel that he is more useful against the smaller.

Ambro

Without question it has to be Ambro.

His defensive work goes un-noticed sometimes, he runs his heart out everytime he gets on the field, deserving of Maldini's captains armband.

Comes up with a goal or two from time-to-time!

I love both of them... I'd pick Ambro though cause he thinks more!

I can imagine a Milan side without Ambro easily , but not without Gattuso.

heheh yep

Ambro, vice-captain

i hate that i have to pick betwen these two guys...but my vote goes to ambro, do you imagine what kind of player he could be if he hadnt had those injury problems...but dont get me wrong, i love rino as well as ambro

I love them both but my vote goes to Ambro

Rino. No question.

Just hope we get rid of Ambro soon.

No chance for that. He's our next captain.

Ambro is a decent player. There are others that shouldn't even be playing at Milan...

Why?

My uncle playing in the division 4 is decent. Ambrosini is great.

U know .. U make a very good point here ... Many ppl think Broochi is a 'decent' player, but after playing for Fiorentina, many around here regarded him *gulp* better than Seedorf

In any case the point I'm trying to make here is, if the player is in the Milan rosters for years now, he is doing the right thing and is highly rated by our coaching staff as a whole (not just Carlo) .. Just like Kalac, he ain't the best around, but he did a magnificent job on Wednesday! Now people are saying he is better than Dida Such a short span of memory, if u know what i mean

When it comes to Kalac,..I'll be allways sceptical regarding his quality.

Kalac mistake

I've following Kalac for some time, and such mistakes happen ever since. He never will be near to Dida, not even a one-armed Dida,..

Not even the next Gkeeper that will replace him once his contract expires

Unless Milan bring in Buffon or Cech

i think that's not the point that "rossoner7" was pointing out...

If not for his injuries Ambrosini would be ranked higher as a player in the world but we know how good he really is. He just have to keep on playing like he has done so far and I'm positive that he'll be a starter in Gli Azzurri. Then people will recognize his greatness.

But that doesn't matter as long as he plays good for Milan.

Forza MAXIMUS

Ambrosini for captain then Gattuso as vice

Gattuso is better overall, but i prefer Ambrosini, cos of his cool blonde locks and his amazing aerial ability

dst... You're not alone...

Neither r u ... Jason Borne fan

Of course I'm not... the whole of Milan is with me. Remember after his goal in the 04/05 CL semis against PSV, he was referred at the official site as... "The Blond Angel"!!

He is just a character... I mean, even if I was like you and dst... It's not like anything could ever happen...

it was a joke bro .. Do what Mika does, Relax, Take it Easy

I remember... It sounded like something Berlusconi would say. I'm just wondering what that headline would have been if Kaladze was the hero that night... "The Georgian creature conquers Eindhoven..."

I know you really want me to relax... But I told you, I'm NOT interested. And NO, I don't care about your oil money!!

I just have to look at threads like these and smile.

Lol what's your point Kurt? Rino was arguably the better player back then when this poll was started. now Ambro is better.

Ambrosini

I disagree.

It was closer back then, but Ambro has always been the better player, in my opinion. He's always been able to do most of what Rino does.. plus he can actually play football.

My vote goes to Max.

I remember when he arrived, the lad couldnt get in the starting eleven due to the pairing of Albertini and Desailly (they were fantastic!!), but every chance Max got he impressed me with his commitment, desire, work rate and as Kurt says he can actually play some football.

No disrespect to Rino tho as both these men play for the shirt.

Then why was Ambro the bench warmer and Rino the starter back when only one DM started? Rino was way ahead of him when both were at their peaks.

Admittidly Rino has taken a huge nose dive now, while Ambro has managed to maintain his shape. But that's what you get when you play like Rino, he ran himself into the ground because he always gives a 110% even when playing with thorn knee ligaments for an entire match

There was a time when Rino was the heart and soul of this team, and his absence was always felt by the squad. Nowadays, Ambro is obviously better than him, but he's nowhere near as important as Rino was in his prime.

This would be true if the manager was making the correct decision, but I don't think he was.

It's like why was Kaladze starting instead of *insert any player*? Because he was better? No way, managers make mistakes.

Rino always gave 100%, I won't deny that, but his footballing ability has always been nowhere near the standards for a top half team.

I saw a perfect Gattuso on 2007 for example.

He was the only one who could/did stop Ronaldo and was one of the most important players who helped Milan to win the CHL.

Didn't Ambrosini get MotM against United in the 2nd leg?

As far as I'm concerned that season was just Kaka' + 10 anyway.

No Seedorf was Man of the Match.

Exactly


But that's your oppinion as a lot of people see it otherwise. And it's not just Carlo who made that "mistake" as you call it, the NT coaches selected Gattuso over Ambro, he was one of the most sought after DMs at the time. So it wasn't just one coach who thought that Rino was all that but many others.

And it's not like Ambro is a Xavi-Pirlo hybrid. He's not a pass master, can't cross, can't shoot and can be just as reckless on a bad day as Rino or Flamini. So what exactly makes him better then Rino at being a footballer?

So Kurt your just saying that both Lippi and Carlo made a mistake for playing him. So are you telling me that Lippi was wrong for playing him in the 2006 World Cup? Well he can't be mistaken cuz he is one of the reasons why Italy won it.

Actually, yes. Ambro did. I've got the player ratings from Gazzetta. He got an 8.5.

That said, Rino was also immense that season and was instrumental in Italy winning the World Cup.

I've got something sticked in the door of my room :


Seedorf got 9
Kaka 9
Gattuso 8
Ambrosini 7

Which paper is that from, d'Arc? It's not from Gazzetta dello Sport (which is the main Italian sport paper and which is only printed in Italian).

EDIT: Here are Gazzetta's ratings (from the May 3 0207 print edition):

Dida 6.5
Oddo 6.5
Nesta 7
Kaladze 7.5
Janku 7
Gattuso 8
Pirlo 7
Ambrosini 8.5
Kaka 8
Seedorf 8
Inzaghi 6
Gilardino 7

No it's not Gazzetta but I can't tell really which paper is, I forgot, cos' the pic. is 2 years old and when Kaka was transfered to Real I removed all posters and things like this from my wall and doors

The point is that Seedorf was better for 2 "points" it can't be a lot of difference with other papers ...