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Portman
All the Other Leagues 2007/08 talk here!
Jack Sparrow
Uhm....go Al Qadissiya
....go Maccabi Haifa
....go Pathana..uhm..Panathai...uhm...AEK Athens
...go Celtic
...go Viva Kerala...
dst
Viva Las Vegas! rolleyes.gif
Jack Sparrow
Hmm...new boys huh? Are they any good? Or is their football only as good as ur sarcasm? mad.gif tongue.gif
misha
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Jun 18 2007, 10:02 PM)
....go Maccabi Haifa
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Nice... It's my favorite team in Israel...
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 18 2007, 07:54 PM)
Nice... It's my favorite team in Israel...
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They're now officially my least favourite. tongue.gif

I would support Hapoel Haifa, but they suck real bad.

Maccabi Tel Aviv it is! biggrin.gif
misha
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 18 2007, 11:55 PM)
They're now officially my least favourite.  tongue.gif

I would support Hapoel Haifa, but they suck real bad.

Maccabi Tel Aviv it is!  biggrin.gif
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Nice pick. They are ours biggest rivals. Did you googled on this? biggrin.gif

Although right now Beitar Jerusalem is the better and richer club (A billionaire bought them two years ago).
kurtsimonw
I put 'local derby' in on Wikipedia and found the Israel ones.

it says Hapoel Haifa is your city derby, but they suck so you'd just getting bragging rights on me all the time. tongue.gif

So I picked MTA, they've had a few decent runs in Europe from what I can remember, plus it's even better that you say they're big rivals with you. biggrin.gif
misha
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 19 2007, 12:06 AM)
I put 'local derby' in on Wikipedia and found the Israel ones.

it says Hapoel Haifa is your city derby, but they suck so you'd just getting bragging rights on me all the time.  tongue.gif

So I picked MTA, they've had a few decent runs in Europe from what I can remember, plus it's even better that you say they're big rivals with you.  biggrin.gif
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Yeah, they played in the CL few years ago but were awful. When Maccabi Haifa was there we manged to win 3:0 against United and finish 3 in the group ahead of Olimpiacos. And last year we were in the 1/8 of the Uefa cup eliminatig Cska along the way. smile.gif

But you can start supporting Shakhtar Donetsk cuz I'm a big Dynamo Kiev fan biggrin.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 18 2007, 09:14 PM)
Yeah, they played in the CL few years ago but were awful. When Maccabi Haifa was there we manged to win 3:0 against United and finish 3 in the group ahead of Olimpiacos. And last year we were in the 1/8 of the Uefa cup eliminatig Cska along the way. smile.gif

But you can start supporting Shakhtar Donetsk cuz I'm a big Dynamo Kiev fan biggrin.gif
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I checked the league rankings. Israel have the 19th best league apparently. It's not too far off Turkey and Greece either, which shows it's on the up because those two have some pretty fiercesome teams. Let's just hope it keeps getting better. wink.gif

Nah, I also like Dynamo Kiev. Mainly because of the Sheva/Rebrov thing. cool.gif
misha
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 19 2007, 12:24 AM)
Nah, I also like Dynamo Kiev. Mainly because of the Sheva/Rebrov thing.  cool.gif
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Those Were the Days... cool.gif
dst
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 19 2007, 12:24 AM)
...because those two have some pretty fiercesome teams.
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you're referring to Greece? Yeah... after all, AEK beat Milan in Athens while Liverpool didn't! rolleyes.gif
LaPalma
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 18 2007, 10:31 PM)
you're referring to Greece? Yeah... after all, AEK beat Milan in Athens while Liverpool didn't! rolleyes.gif
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Of course they did....what a team AEK is ohmy.gif Never understood why they didn't make it to the final huh.gif But now with their young upcoming starlet Rivaldo they'll be serious contenders for the title next year king.gif
Portman
QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 18 2007, 10:01 PM)
Although right now Beitar Jerusalem is the better and richer club (A billionaire bought them two years ago).
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Beitar isn't a yellow and black team? I think they were the ones who came to Portugal about 7-8 years ago to play Benfica. Don't know what competition.

I think it ended 5-0 or 6-1... not sure.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 18 2007, 09:31 PM)
you're referring to Greece? Yeah... after all, AEK beat Milan in Athens while Liverpool didn't! rolleyes.gif
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I was referring to both Greece and Turkey and the teams they have.

Olympiakos, Panathinaikos, AEK, Besiktas, Fenerbache and Galatasary are all good teams. For the Israel league to be only a few positions below them is quite good, that's all I was implying. smile.gif
misha
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 19 2007, 12:40 AM)
Beitar isn't a yellow and black team? I think they were the ones who came to Portugal about 7-8 years ago to play Benfica. Don't know what competition.

I think it ended 5-0 or 6-1... not sure.
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Yep. They won the championship last year. Gaydamak(wiki) bought them. His son owns Portsmouth.
Portman
QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 18 2007, 11:09 PM)
Yep. They won the championship last year. Gaydamak(wiki) bought them. His son owns Portsmouth.
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I knew that Gay-damak name... Pompey. biggrin.gif
misha
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 19 2007, 01:23 AM)
I knew that Gay-damak name... Pompey.  biggrin.gif
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Made most of his money on some questionable diamond and weapon deals in Africa and he's wanted in France biggrin.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 18 2007, 10:28 PM)
Made most of his money on some questionable diamond and weapon deals in Africa and he's wanted in France biggrin.gif
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Did he change his name from Abramovic by any chance? rolleyes.gif
misha
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 19 2007, 01:33 AM)
Did he change his name from Abramovic by any chance?  rolleyes.gif
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They hate each other, and have some sort of rivalry smile.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 18 2007, 10:36 PM)
They hate each other, and have some sort of rivalry smile.gif
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How does that not surprise me.
Portman
QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 18 2007, 11:36 PM)
They hate each other, and have some sort of rivalry smile.gif
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Yeh... muppets.
Our Don Silvio has no rival. cool.gif

dst
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 19 2007, 12:44 AM)
Olympiakos, Panathinaikos, AEK, Besiktas, Fenerbache and Galatasary are all good teams. For the Israel league to be only a few positions below them is quite good, that's all I was implying.  smile.gif
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Yeah, I got that.

But the only thing that's fiercesome about Greek teams is... well there's nothing... their fans maybe!
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 18 2007, 11:24 PM)
Yeah, I got that.

But the only thing that's fiercesome about Greek teams is... well there's nothing... their fans maybe!
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Ohhhhhhhh. I must have missed that. tongue.gif
Portman


Can someone from the german crew (LaPalma and co) enlight me about Berliner FC Dynamo (commonly Dynamo Berlin)?

I mean... they've 10 league titles (only behind Bayern), how can't they be in Bundesliga (I know they won in RDA but even with that...) ? As from Berlin... they're the main club from the capital (fan-base) like Real Madrid or Benfica? What happened to them?

I heard they were they linked with... Stasi? huh.gif Any true in this?

Enlight me, please.
Portman
Still waiting for someone to answer me the question above...

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Anyway... NEWS FROM PORTUGAL and from our bwinLIGA (Portuguese League):

FC Porto:
-They just signed Kazmierczak, strong midfielder from Poland, that played in Boavista last season.
-After Anderson, FC Porto president said Pepe, Lucho and Quaresma [the other big guns] are staying.

Sporting Lisbon:
-Derlei, ex-Porto and ex-Benfica (was on loan from Dynamo Moscow last year but he was sh!t) is about to sign for them.
-Grimi, our Grimi biggrin.gif , could be loaned to them. Reports in down here.

Benfica:
-Joe Berardo [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Berardo], one of the richest people in Portugal, is trying to buy 60% (or 85%) of the club. Basically he wants to become the largest individual stockholder in the club.
-Oscar Cardozo [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Cardozo], the top-scorer in Argentina Clausura League, signed a contract with Benfica. 9,1M/euros is what Newell's Old Boys get. It's a big surprise for a portuguese club to spend big. Yeah... 9 M/euros is A LOT for a portuguese club. But it seems SL Benfica wants to build a much better team for next year.
dst
I'm glad Benfica are setting their aims high! smile.gif

Any news about Nelson? I guess he'll probably stay but has he been linked with any team?
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 21 2007, 11:25 PM)
Any news about Nelson? I guess he'll probably stay but has he been linked with any team?
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He's staying for sure. He'll fight with Marc Zoro for the RB place next season. But he's only 24. If he wants he'll get better and better. Just needs motivation.

I don't know which team was but I heard Benfica refused an offer, about 1-2 weeks ago.
dst
He really amazed me when I first watched him play in 05/06 but last season it seemed like he had not gotten any better... he was injured for some time there, I just hope he tries more because I'm sure he can be great!!
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 21 2007, 11:59 PM)
He really amazed me when I first watched him play in 05/06 but last season it seemed like he had not gotten any better... he was injured for some time there, I just hope he tries more because I'm sure he can be great!!
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Main problem is that he had no "competition" for the RB place in Benfica since last December when they sold Alcides.

So he just relaxed since then... rolleyes.gif
LaPalma
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 19 2007, 01:05 AM)


Can someone from the german crew (LaPalma and co) enlight me about Berliner FC Dynamo (commonly Dynamo Berlin)?

I mean... they've 10 league titles (only behind Bayern), how can't they be in Bundesliga (I know they won in RDA but even with that...) ? As from Berlin... they're the main club from the capital (fan-base) like Real Madrid or Benfica? What happened to them?

I heard they were they linked with... Stasi?  huh.gif Any true in this?

Enlight me, please.
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Well, I didn't know much about Dynamo Berlin because I'm from West Germany, but I investigated a little bit and this is what I found out:
The name Dynamo in East Germany alwasy stood for a club being sponsored by the interior ministry and the police, and Dynamo Berlin in particular was called the "Stasi Klub" by the people in Eastern Germany. The "Minister für Staatssicherheit" (Stasi) Erich Mielke was a huge fan of them and also did them one or two favours (Transfers etc.).
About their fan base. As a "Stasi Klub" the Club was very unpopular among East german football fans. After 1989 and the fall of the Berlin Wall the mssing support of the SED (Socialist Party in former East Germany) the Club went down to the forth league, and all their good players went to Clubs in West Germany (Thomas Doll, Falko Götz, Andreas Thom).

Well, that's what happened to many Clubs from Eastern Germany after 1990. They simply weren't good enough for the Bundesliga...and still aren't. Dynamo Dresden (former club of the famous Matthias Sammer) which was also supported by the Stasi will play in the 2.Bundesliga next year after they spent years in the third league.

Besides Hertha BSC Berlin (Berlin is not the "real" eastern Germany) there are only two clubs from eastern Germany in the Bundesliga next year...
Portman
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jun 22 2007, 09:39 AM)
Well, I didn't know much about Dynamo Berlin because I'm from West Germany, but I investigated a little bit and this is what I found out:
The name Dynamo in East Germany alwasy stood for a club being sponsored by the interior ministry and the police, and Dynamo Berlin in particular was called the "Stasi Klub" by the people in Eastern Germany. The "Minister für Staatssicherheit" (Stasi) Erich Mielke was a huge fan of them and also did them one or two favours (Transfers etc.).
About their fan base. As a "Stasi Klub" the Club was very unpopular among East german football fans. After 1989 and the fall of the Berlin Wall the mssing support of the SED (Socialist Party in former East Germany) the Club went down to the forth league, and all their good players went to Clubs in West Germany (Thomas Doll, Falko Götz, Andreas Thom).

Well, that's what happened to many Clubs from Eastern Germany after 1990. They simply weren't good enough for the Bundesliga...and still aren't. Dynamo Dresden (former club of the famous Matthias Sammer) which was also supported by the Stasi will play in the 2.Bundesliga next year after they spent years in the third league.

Besides Hertha BSC Berlin (Berlin is not the "real" eastern Germany) there are only two clubs from eastern Germany in the Bundesliga next year...
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Many thanks. I thought they were bigger. sad.gif
dst
They Yaya lad Barcelona are getting from Monaco is a very good player. He played great in Olympiacos and in the World Cup, maybe not so great in Monaco but he's got great potential... he's the brother of the great Kolo Touré! cool.gif

Hey Porty, what about Evaristo Manú of Benfica? Is he any good? AEK want him. And Santos asked for Cirillo to got the other way...
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 24 2007, 12:42 PM)
Hey Porty, what about Evaristo Manú of Benfica? Is he any good? AEK want him. And Santos asked for Cirillo to got the other way...
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Manu? He's a pure winger. Really fast. Good for counter-attack teams.

Reminds me a bit of Giuly. Jamaican-version, although he's portuguese. rolleyes.gif

Rossoneri7
Hey Porty .. How good is Sérgio Conceição atm ? He is 33 right ?
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 24 2007, 08:57 PM)
Hey Porty .. How good is Sérgio Conceição atm ? He is 33 right ?
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I used to love him back in his Lazio/Parma days! I'll never forget that hat-trick he scored past Germany at Euro 2000 either. laugh.gif

He went to Standard Liege in 2004, won Player of the Season in 2005. Though the last I heard of him isn't very good. Apparently he spat on a player and attacked a referee, which resulted in suspension for 3 years. sad.gif

That was about a year ago, though. Not sure if he's played since, I think Porty may know more than me, even if he is playing in Belgium.

P.S. He's 32, 33 in November.
Rossoneri7
Cuz he is comin to play for a local team over here ... And I remember him a loong time ago, he was a merda wasn't he
Portman
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 24 2007, 10:38 PM)
Cuz he is comin to play for a local team over here ... And I remember him a loong time ago, he was a merda wasn't he
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Yes. 2 years.

Everyone thought he was joining Braga this year but it seems he's going to Arabia. I dunno how good he is at the moment. He was a nice winger - a player that gives all he has. I did a nice job in Belgium until he fvcked a ref laugh.gif (Typical portuguese).

I hope everything goes fine in his Arab-adventure. wink.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Porty @ Jun 24 2007, 10:00 PM)
Yes. 2 years.

Everyone thought he was joining Braga this year but it seems he's going to Arabia. I dunno how good he is at the moment. He was a nice winger - a player that gives all he has. I did a nice job in Belgium until he fvcked a ref  laugh.gif (Typical portuguese).

I hope everything goes fine in his Arab-adventure.  wink.gif
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When R7 said he was coming to play, I thought he meant for some charity match or something. But he's actually going to sign for a club over there? ohmy.gif

Get a season ticket R7, his football is as great as his name. cool.gif
Rossoneri7
So can we say that he is of the class of Figo and Costa ?? (Not tactically, but u get my drift) ... If so, then I am definitely gonna attend more games locally this season .. Nothing better than watching class football king.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 24 2007, 10:06 PM)
So can we say that he is of the class of Figo and Costa ?? (Not tactically, but u get my drift) ... If so, then I am definitely gonna attend more games locally this season .. Nothing better than watching class football king.gif
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Get me his autograph! biggrin.gif

I used to love the Portugese NT, before 2004. rolleyes.gif

Conceicao used to play with the likes of Rui Costa, Paolo Sousa, Luis Figo, Fernando Couto. wub.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 25 2007, 01:18 AM)
Get me his autograph!  biggrin.gif

I used to love the Portugese NT, before 2004.  rolleyes.gif

Conceicao used to play with the likes of Rui Costa, Paolo Sousa, Luis Figo, Fernando Couto. wub.gif
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U want autographs ? Do u want pictures as well biggrin.gif .. I know the nephew of the owner wink.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 24 2007, 10:37 PM)
U want autographs ? Do u want pictures as well  biggrin.gif .. I know the nephew of the owner wink.gif
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I don't know if you're serious or winding me up. dry.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 25 2007, 01:43 AM)
I don't know if you're serious or winding me up. dry.gif
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Seriouslly wink.gif Kuwait is real small, everyone is aquianted with everyone biggrin.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 25 2007, 12:47 AM)
Seriouslly wink.gif Kuwait is real small, everyone is aquianted with everyone  biggrin.gif
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That's awesome then. biggrin.gif

Maybe you'll become Sergio's best friend. tongue.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 25 2007, 03:57 AM)
That's awesome then.  biggrin.gif

Maybe you'll become Sergio's best friend.  tongue.gif
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Well, I don't know about that ... But I'll be sure to have a chat with him (mainly about the merda biggrin.gif ) .. I always wanted to be aquainted with a European player and this is my chance wink.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 25 2007, 01:01 AM)
Well, I don't know about that ... But I'll be sure to have a chat with him (mainly about the merda biggrin.gif ) .. I always wanted to be aquainted with a European player and this is my chance wink.gif
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That'd be real awesome. I've seen plenty of the Worlds best in the Premiership when they've played at Villa Park, but I've spoken to very few, mainly only Villa players, too.

To even speak to a player like him would be awesome, you'll have nothing but jealousy from me, that's for sure. tongue.gif
Tennie
Now it's official: Klose to Bayern.

Miroslav Klose wechselt zum FC Bayern

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Drei Tage vor dem Trainingsauftakt zur Saison 2007/08 hat der FC Bayern seine Personalplanungen für den Angriff auf drei Titel abgeschlossen. Nach den bisher feststehenden Neuzugängen Luca Toni, Franck Ribery, Zé Roberto, Jose Ernesto Sosa, Marcell Jansen, Jan Schlaudraff und Hamit Altintop hat der Rekordmeister nun auch Nationalstürmer Miroslav Klose vom Ligakonkurrenten Werder Bremen verpflichtet.

Der 29 Jahre alte Angreifer wird an diesem Donnerstag zur sportärztlichen Untersuchung in München erwartet und wird danach einen Vierjahresvertrag bis zum 30. Juni 2011 unterzeichnen. Klose, WM-Torschützenkönig und Deutschlands Fußballer des Jahres 2006, wird bereits am Freitag, den 29. Juni, um 10 Uhr beim Trainingsstart des deutschen Rekordmeisters mit dabei sein.

„Es handelt sich dabei für beide Seiten um eine faire Lösung“, sagte Bayerns-Vorstands-Chef Karl-Heinz Rummenigge. Vorausgegangen war ein „gutes Gespräch“ zwischen den Vorständen der FC Bayern München AG, Rummenigge und Uli Hoeneß, sowie den Werder-Geschäftsführern Klaus Allofs und Manfred Müller. Über die Ablösemodalitäten des 69-maligen Nationalspielers, der ein Jahr vor Ablauf seines Vertrages von der Weser an die Isar wechselt, vereinbarten beide Parteien Stillschweigen.

Mehr dazu in Kürze hier!
misha
Not bad team at all. Shame we won't see them in the CL. Uefa cup biggrin.gif

--------Zé Roberto----Van Bommel

Schweinsteiger---------------------Ribery

-------------Klose----------Toni
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (mishale @ Jun 26 2007, 07:41 PM)
Not bad team at all. Shame we won't see them in the CL. Uefa cup biggrin.gif

I think 'not bad' is as far as it goes. They may do well in Germany, but when they're back in the CL, they'll be no better than they've been the past few years. smile.gif
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