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post Jul 14 2021, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 14 2021, 03:48 PM) *
We still need 1/2 backup FBs
Another CDM
A RW
And most important the AM


Ballo-Toure seems like a done deal, so I guess we'll have our backup LB. I really wish we get Dalot as well, but something tells me that ship has sunk.

DM should be Bakayoko from what I've read, and I'd be fine with that.

AM is an infinite list at the moment.

And then there's the RW... No names being mentioned whatsoever, except Berardi now and then which I think will never happen, or Ziyech who's mainly been linked with us for the AM position. Then nothing. Are we really thinking we can go into next season just with Alexis and Barbie? Cos that would downright moronic.

Surely there must be a talented RW out there who's within our price range...
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post Jul 15 2021, 10:54 AM
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post Jul 15 2021, 12:11 PM
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Don't know which one is worse between him and Dollarumma. Both pathetic human beings.
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post Jul 15 2021, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 15 2021, 02:11 PM) *
Don't know which one is worse between him and Dollarumma. Both pathetic human beings.


Donnarumma wrote a nice message. To be honest, I'm not really mad at him. He is going to be paid twice his salary and will play in one of the biggest clubs in the world. You can't really sit here and judge him for that.
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post Jul 15 2021, 02:32 PM
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I think our plans to complete our squad is starting to take place:

For the striker position: Ibra, Giroud (as vice-Ibra), and Kaio jorge (Pato like signing in my opinion...could be a stroke of genius).

Left wing: Rebic, Leao, Hauge. I would expect a sale of Leao/Hauge to fund a replacement and other signings.

CAM: Luis Alberto (imo he is pushing for a move, let's see) and Diaz

Right wing: Saelemaekers, Castillejo (imo will also be sold and replaced)

CM: Kessie, Bennacer, Tonali, and Bakayoko (imo, we will get him, we have a good relationship with Chelsea, you can see this through the Giroud deal). We also are close to buying Warren Bondo, possibly one for the future, seems to occupy to be a classic defensive midfielder. Pobega will probably be sold to get some money.

Centerbacks: Tomori, Kjaer, Romagnoli, and Gabbia

Leftbacks: Theo and Fod? Ballo-Tour? (probably we will reach an agreement soon)

Rightbacks: Calabria and Kalulu

Goalkeeper: Mike Maignan and Tatarusanu

Krunic as the joker.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Jul 15 2021, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 14 2021, 09:39 PM) *
I'm divided. On the one hand, we're getting an experienced player basically for free.

On the other hand, I'm not crazy about the player. His scoring record throughout his career is pathetic, and he's 35. Not to mention he'll be earning second to Zlatan in terms of wages, which I don't think he'll be able to justify.

As Fillipo said, we can't rely solely on those two. We need a third option. AFAIK, the management's idea is to sign another young prospect who can lean from Ibra and Giroud and be ready to start games for us next season. Or at least be a full-proof option in attack. Kaio Jorge, perhaps?


Yes...indeed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Kaio Jorge seems to be in the works.

I agree with respect to Giroud. I think it's good because he participates in the play and isn't completely transparent as Leao per say.. but still his goalscoring isn't immense. I have a feeling he would be great for Serie A though!
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post Jul 15 2021, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Jul 15 2021, 02:32 PM) *
I think our plans to complete our squad is starting to take place:

For the striker position: Ibra, Giroud (as vice-Ibra), and Kaio jorge (Pato like signing in my opinion...could be a stroke of genius).

Left wing: Rebic, Leao, Hauge. I would expect a sale of Leao/Hauge to fund a replacement and other signings.

CAM: Luis Alberto (imo he is pushing for a move, let's see) and Diaz

Right wing: Saelemaekers, Castillejo (imo will also be sold and replaced)

CM: Kessie, Bennacer, Tonali, and Bakayoko (imo, we will get him, we have a good relationship with Chelsea, you can see this through the Giroud deal). We also are close to buying Warren Bondo, possibly one for the future, seems to occupy to be a classic defensive midfielder. Pobega will probably be sold to get some money.

Centerbacks: Tomori, Kjaer, Romagnoli, and Gabbia

Leftbacks: Theo and Fod? Ballo-Tour? (probably we will reach an agreement soon)

Rightbacks: Calabria and Kalulu

Goalkeeper: Mike Maignan and Tatarusanu

Krunic as the joker.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


Luis Alberto is never going to happen. Lotito is asking 50M. Plus I think he's overrated. At 29 has never made the Spain NT, for instance.

We need a quality RW AT ALL COST.

If Romagnoli doesn't renew he must be sold.

Kalulu is not good enough for RB backup.
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post Jul 15 2021, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Jul 15 2021, 01:56 PM) *
Donnarumma wrote a nice message. To be honest, I'm not really mad at him. He is going to be paid twice his salary and will play in one of the biggest clubs in the world. You can't really sit here and judge him for that.


He can shove his nice message up his anus. Not mad at him? He's a pathetic, money-grubbing whore. After making him debut at 16. After giving him 6M at 18 years old. After signing his good-for-nothing brother on a million salary. After offering him 8M which goes completely against management policy. After making him captain after Romagnoli was benched. He said he was a Milan fan since childhood. He swore love to our colours and kissed our shirt.

And after all this, he bows down to Raiola and money. Repugnant.

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post Jul 15 2021, 04:53 PM
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In all honesty, I think you're overreacting.

The guy wants to win lots of trophies. He's clearly up to it. What difference does it make if he stays with us until 24 or 25 or 26? He was bound to go away anyway. I'm just pissed how we managed to lose him on a free.
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post Jul 15 2021, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 15 2021, 04:53 PM) *
In all honesty, I think you're overreacting.


I'm pretty sure most Milan fans share the same sentiment with me.

Was he bound to leave? If I recall correctly, Totti stayed with Roma all his life despite nearly winning nothing. That's dedication and love for your colours. But gone are those times when you had the Maldini's and Zanetti's and Totti's and Del Piero's of this world. Now all that rules in football is $$$.
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post Jul 15 2021, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 14 2021, 07:03 PM) *
Have you not learned anything from last season? Giroud and Ibra surpass 70 years combined, we most definitively cannot rely solely on them. No, we need a third striker option as well, especially if we sell Leao.

I don't think Giroud has a significant injury record though and if Zlatan manages to stay fit he'll want to hog all the minutes.

A young striker would be nice but I would first rather concentrate on other positions tbh

Also with have such a difficult opening 4 fixtures, I will stress again how important it is to bring in the AM ASAP.

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 14 2021, 07:39 PM) *
I'm divided. On the one hand, we're getting an experienced player basically for free.

On the other hand, I'm not crazy about the player. His scoring record throughout his career is pathetic, and he's 35. Not to mention he'll be earning second to Zlatan in terms of wages, which I don't think he'll be able to justify.

As Fillipo said, we can't rely solely on those two. We need a third option. AFAIK, the management's idea is to sign another young prospect who can lean from Ibra and Giroud and be ready to start games for us next season. Or at least be a full-proof option in attack. Kaio Jorge, perhaps?

His wage will be 3.5m so not a huge salary. With Donna, his bro and Hakan off the books I think we have some leeway in the wage budget

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 14 2021, 07:44 PM) *
Ballo-Toure seems like a done deal, so I guess we'll have our backup LB. I really wish we get Dalot as well, but something tells me that ship has sunk.

DM should be Bakayoko from what I've read, and I'd be fine with that.

AM is an infinite list at the moment.

And then there's the RW... No names being mentioned whatsoever, except Berardi now and then which I think will never happen, or Ziyech who's mainly been linked with us for the AM position. Then nothing. Are we really thinking we can go into next season just with Alexis and Barbie? Cos that would downright moronic.

Surely there must be a talented RW out there who's within our price range...

I think there's still time for Dalot. He'd be great to have especially if we can include an option this time. I think clubs like Man U and Chelsea will have to sell at some point and will also have to accept that most clubs are not going to be throwing money around. So unless PSG or City come knocking for their players, there is a limit to how much they can ask for.

Ziyech and Vlasic would be awesome to have for those 2 attacking positions imo. I just don't think we have the money to get one over the line, let alone both.

QUOTE (William405 @ Jul 15 2021, 02:32 PM) *
I think our plans to complete our squad is starting to take place:

For the striker position: Ibra, Giroud (as vice-Ibra), and Kaio jorge (Pato like signing in my opinion...could be a stroke of genius).

Left wing: Rebic, Leao, Hauge. I would expect a sale of Leao/Hauge to fund a replacement and other signings.

CAM: Luis Alberto (imo he is pushing for a move, let's see) and Diaz

Right wing: Saelemaekers, Castillejo (imo will also be sold and replaced)

CM: Kessie, Bennacer, Tonali, and Bakayoko (imo, we will get him, we have a good relationship with Chelsea, you can see this through the Giroud deal). We also are close to buying Warren Bondo, possibly one for the future, seems to occupy to be a classic defensive midfielder. Pobega will probably be sold to get some money.

Centerbacks: Tomori, Kjaer, Romagnoli, and Gabbia

Leftbacks: Theo and Fod? Ballo-Tour? (probably we will reach an agreement soon)

Rightbacks: Calabria and Kalulu

Goalkeeper: Mike Maignan and Tatarusanu

Krunic as the joker.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Kalulu cannot be the 2nd choice RB. He's absolutely awful in that position. He's a CB not a RB and imo we should loan him out to play consistently in a Serie A side. Him and Gabbia are wasting their time with us being 5th choice

The line-up of mids if Baka comes is perfect imo.

L. Alberto is not coming and I personally would prefer a different profile for that position
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Re Donna. I get x-offs point but I also understand that he's aiming for big trophies and right now PSG is the place to be. Obviously I also think it's a major cop out to earn lots of money as well so win win for him. That being said, he'll be another forgotten man over there, just like all their stars. I don't know a single person who actually watches PSG games outside of CL. What a waste

However I am also hugely p!ssed off that he went for free. Had he held even an ounce of respect or love for these colours as he claims he does he would have at least made sure to get the club a transfer fee for him just like Thiago Silva did, even when he didn't even want to leave and we forced him out. He did right by the club. That is the difference between someone who holds respect for the clubs and someone who is only out for themselves as Donna has clearly always been imo. Donnarumma is small. He can go to PSG and earn his money, but as far as I am concerned he can go f@ck himself.
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For the AM I'm hot for either Vlasic or Sabitzer right now. My preference is towards Vlasic cos he's younger and more technically gifted for that role.

For the RW position I have no clue. I don't think Ziyech will come cos Chelsea only signed him last year for 40M, it wouldn't be smart for them to loan him out right away. Plus they need some depth in that bench.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 15 2021, 08:24 PM) *
For the AM I'm hot for either Vlasic or Sabitzer right now. My preference is towards Vlasic cos he's younger and more technically gifted for that role.

For the RW position I have no clue. I don't think Ziyech will come cos Chelsea only signed him last year for 40M, it wouldn't be smart for them to loan him out right away. Plus they need some depth in that bench.

Agreed re the AM Vlasic looks great. Obviously I'm only basing this on YT vids so I could be being mislead here, but he certainly looks like the type of player we need for that role. Sabitzer would also be great but there have been no real links to him

All of the various Coutinho's , James', Isco's etc are a no from me. They've all been out of it for at least 2 seasons. All are injury prone and none are the hybrid, type mid we need. They're all more attackers rather than proper mids and we need that player to put in the miles. Isco although he is a genius on the ball, he just looks completely out of shape and won't bring the work rate Pioli demands in that position
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 15 2021, 08:57 PM) *
I'm pretty sure most Milan fans share the same sentiment with me.

Was he bound to leave? If I recall correctly, Totti stayed with Roma all his life despite nearly winning nothing. That's dedication and love for your colours. But gone are those times when you had the Maldini's and Zanetti's and Totti's and Del Piero's of this world. Now all that rules in football is $$$.

Man you're becoming more sentimental then me. Gone are those days. It's simply unrealistic to expect that kind of approach. The world is a much more global place right now, Italian players are more comfortable moving abroad then ever before. Kids who are deemed stars do not want to end up like local heroes but win more, everything.

Also, context is important. It wasn't that hard for Mladini to stay at Milan for his whole life to be honest: fighting for almost every of his 20+ seasons with us for a big domestic or international title. Same goes for Del Piero. Playing for Juve in the 90's and 00's wasn't that hard of a chore. Totti is another dimension, but then again Serie A was still the strongest league in the world during his era. Zanetti waited and then in the end achieved his swan song. All mentioned legends played in a different era. To be quite honest, I'm not sure Paolo Maldini would have stayed until the end with the Milan of today.
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