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han2503
Who: A.C. Milan vs. Atalanta B.C.







Where: Stadio San Siro







When:
7th November 2015 @ 8:45pm CET


Head-to-Head Record







Serie A Form Guide:
Milan: LDWWW
Atalanta: LWLWL
X-Offender
Donnarumma; De Sciglio, Mexes, Romagnoli, Antonelli; Kucka, Montolivo, Poli; Cerci, Bacca, Honda.

I know we're coming from three consecutive wins, but that line-up looks depressing, especially when you lump in Kucka, Poli, Honda and Cerci together.
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 6 2015, 07:14 PM) *
Donnarumma; De Sciglio, Mexes, Romagnoli, Antonelli; Kucka, Montolivo, Poli; Cerci, Bacca, Honda.

I know we're coming from three consecutive wins, but that line-up looks depressing, especially when you lump in Kucka, Poli, Honda and Cerci together.

At least Monto is fit to start.

Cerci is starting to look half decent so I can tolerate him for now, but Honda has been really terrible this season
X-Offender
Looks like Niang will be playing instead of Honda according to Mediaset.
Nova
I love saturday evening matches ! king.gif
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 7 2015, 12:19 PM) *
Looks like Niang will be playing instead of Honda according to Mediaset.

I think that's a fairly better option tbh, Niang isn't really my cup of tea, but at least he'll give us a bit of an outlet, p[lus he's strong and fast which could come in handly rather than Honda constantly getting shoved off the ball

QUOTE (Nova @ Nov 7 2015, 03:34 PM) *
I love saturday evening matches ! king.gif

Me too!!

Hate Sunday evening ones
Fillipo Simone
Niang ahead of Honda makes sense to me. It's just a shame he didn't get a shot earlier, so now he's been thrown into the fire. Don't get me wrong, I don't rate Niang very highly, I dislike his unprofessional approach. But he's better then Honda, actually, I think Honda is the worst creative mid/offensive option we have in the team right now.
Nova
Niang is like Pogba without the everything ... Horrible player with the
attitude of a superstar. I still prefer Honda , if only not to see Niang ****** our shirt.

I do believe Honda is a better player but lets be honest , even Messi would have a hard time playing At Milan now.
han2503
QUOTE (Nova @ Nov 7 2015, 05:20 PM) *
Niang is like Pogba without the everything ... Horrible player with the
attitude of a superstar. I still prefer Honda , if only not to see Niang ****** our shirt.

I do believe Honda is a better player but lets be honest , even Messi would have a hard time playing At Milan now.

Honda has only really had a few good weeks at Milan in total, sure the condition of the team that he joined are not ideal, but I just don't think he's really all that suited to Serie A, he'd probably do well in a second tier La Liga side like a Sevilla for example, but in all honesty, I just don't think he suites the league, it's too physical for him and he's too weak. He gets shoved off the ball more easily than a 16 year old getting his first shot out there.

Also, he lacks the vision and creative spark needed to unlock most Serie A defences, which practically renders him useless.

Don't get me wrong I don't rate Niang all that much, but as I said, he's strong and fast and could be a useful outlet for us since we lost Bonaventura out there on that left side who does the work of practically 2 players.
milanbuf88
QUOTE (Nova @ Nov 7 2015, 01:20 PM) *
Niang is like Pogba without the everything ... Horrible player with the
attitude of a superstar. I still prefer Honda , if only not to see Niang ****** our shirt.

I do believe Honda is a better player but lets be honest , even Messi would have a hard time playing At Milan now.

I think you're being too harsh on Niang. He's shown more maturity since his loan spells and he's a far better physical presence than Honda. He can also beat a man with speed every once and a while. He definitely deserves a shot. If he doesn't put in the requisite effort tonight then he can be dropped.
Nova
I stand by my opinion on Niang. I don't mind players being less talented as he clearly is ,
but I refuse to give credit for his mediocrity.

At least Honda showed his talent with Cska Moscow and Japan and also impressed me. Niang won't even come close.
And I feel sorry for Milan to be able to say he's at least fast and and strong. He's also clueless with and without the ball.
Nova
Anyone needs a stream btw ? Bt sport isn't showing the match, so If I'll stream it's probably Eurosport Holland or Canal + Poland :-(
William405
Milan: Donnarumma; De Sciglio, Mexes, Romagnoli, Antonelli; Kucka, Montolivo, Poli; Cerci, Bacca, Niang

Milan bench: Abbiati, Livieri, Calabria, Ely, Zapata, De Jong, Jose Mauri, Nocerino, Suso, Honda, Luiz Adriano
Atalanta: Sportiello; Raimondi, Paletta, Toloi, Dramè; Grassi, De Roon, Cigarini; Maxi Moralez, Pinilla, Gomez

Atalanta bench: Bassi, Masiello, Iacopin, Bellini, Conti, Brivio, Stendardo, Migliaccio, Carmona, Kurtic, D'Alessandro, Denis
William405
A 4-3-3 with real wingers looks fine to me given our many absentees! The midfield looks kinda terrible though.
X-Offender
QUOTE (Nova @ Nov 7 2015, 08:06 PM) *
Anyone needs a stream btw ? Bt sport isn't showing the match, so If I'll stream it's probably Eurosport Holland or Canal + Poland :-(


I'd appreciate a stream, cheers.
Nova
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 7 2015, 10:22 PM) *
I'd appreciate a stream, cheers.


Ok , apparantly Bt sport will show the game wink.gif

Chelsea lost again ! laugh.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Nova @ Nov 7 2015, 08:28 PM) *
Ok , apparantly Bt sport will show the game wink.gif

Chelsea lost again ! laugh.gif

Wow, how long do you think Mourinho will last at this rate?

I know the fans want him to stay badly, but if they keep going at this rate they won't even make any of the European places!

Thanks for the stream btw Nova, will most likely use it as my Sat is being occupied dry.gif
Nova
http://Milanfan.better-than.tv:5005/stream.flv

We're live , please give feedback if it's not working well , i can try to fix it ;-)
han2503
QUOTE (Nova @ Nov 7 2015, 08:34 PM) *
http://Milanfan.better-than.tv:5005/stream.flv

We're live , please give feedback if it's not working well , i can try to fix it ;-)

Can you lower the settings just slightly? Only buffering for a second or 2 ever now and then
Nova
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 7 2015, 10:33 PM) *
Wow, how long do you think Mourinho will last at this rate?

I know the fans want him to stay badly, but if they keep going at this rate they won't even make any of the European places!

Thanks for the stream btw Nova, will most likely use it as my Sat is being occupied dry.gif


Well , in his defense he wasn't on the bench , probably uses that as an excuse ;-)

I think the fans can only want him to stay out of sentimental reasons , I believe he should be given another chance next season considering what he has done for the team. But I guess he will be fired before x-mas if this continues . I do hate the bugger though ;-)
Nova
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 7 2015, 10:38 PM) *
Can you lower the settings just slightly? Only buffering for a second or 2 ever now and then


ok will do , just a sec
Nova
Settings are lowered . Should be better now ...
han2503
QUOTE (Nova @ Nov 7 2015, 08:39 PM) *
Well , in his defense he wasn't on the bench , probably uses that as an excuse ;-)

I think the fans can only want him to stay out of sentimental reasons , I believe he should be given another chance next season considering what he has done for the team. But I guess he will be fired before x-mas if this continues . I do hate the bugger though ;-)

True, can't stand him!

But would you bring him over to Milan if there was a chance?

I personally wouldn't have to think about it, he's exactly the type of coach we need at this moment. Him and a couple of top class players and we could see the start of a new successful cycle
han2503
QUOTE (Nova @ Nov 7 2015, 08:40 PM) *
Settings are lowered . Should be better now ...

Yep, perfect, thanks!!
milanbuf88
Thanks for the stream Nova! Working ok at the moment.
Nova
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 7 2015, 10:42 PM) *
True, can't stand him!

But would you bring him over to Milan if there was a chance?

I personally wouldn't have to think about it, he's exactly the type of coach we need at this moment. Him and a couple of top class players and we could see the start of a new successful cycle


If he can make Milan top class again , then I would considered to drop my issues with him for the good of the team . But it would feel so damn weird , it would feel right and wrong at the same time ... I forgot how much I hate him laugh.gif
Nova
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 7 2015, 10:42 PM) *
Yep, perfect, thanks!!


My pleasure mate , there can be a few glitches perhaps though .

WTF was that song ??? laugh.gif
X-Offender
The stream keeps freezing for me every 2 seconds. It's probably cos I have a shitty connection. Could you please lower the settings just once more? If it keeps freezing then I'll let you know so you can increase them again.
Nova
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 7 2015, 10:48 PM) *
The stream keeps freezing for me every 2 seconds. It's probably cos I have a shitty connection. Could you please lower the settings just once more? If it keeps freezing then I'll let you know so you can increase them again.


Ok, I hope its not too low for the others. Will be off for a few seconds
Nova
Any lower and the image will be almost unviewable ...
Nova
Better X-off ?
X-Offender
Seems to be working fine now.
Nova
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 7 2015, 10:56 PM) *
Seems to be working fine now.


All right :-)

Is it still ok for the rest ?
milanbuf88
Yup it's been great for me
milanbuf88
Kucka has been awful so far
Nova
If we win this game we'll be temporary second place , right ?
han2503
QUOTE (Nova @ Nov 7 2015, 09:01 PM) *
If we win this game we'll be temporary second place , right ?

Playing badly so far imo, so rushed, it's like they have the dogs from hell biting at their @sses
X-Offender
The quality of our players is laughable.
Nova
QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Nov 7 2015, 10:59 PM) *
Yup it's been great for me


Great to hear mate king.gif
Nova
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 7 2015, 11:01 PM) *
Playing badly so far imo, so rushed, it's like they have the dogs from hell biting at their @sses


Playing against Atalanta is never easy for Milan for some reason.
Palletta finally decided to shave his head laugh.gif
han2503
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 7 2015, 09:02 PM) *
The quality of our players is laughable.

I just don't understand why it's all so rushed, I understand trying to play at a quick tempo, but this is just messy
Nova
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 7 2015, 11:04 PM) *
I just don't understand why it's all so rushed, I understand trying to play at a quick tempo, but this is just messy


Niang is doing ok it seems
milanbuf88
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 7 2015, 05:04 PM) *
I just don't understand why it's all so rushed, I understand trying to play at a quick tempo, but this is just messy

It's messy because we have Kucka and Poli in midfield with zero technical ability.
han2503
QUOTE (Nova @ Nov 7 2015, 09:07 PM) *
Niang is doing ok it seems

Niang usually blunders at the crucial moment though, so wait for it
Nova
QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Nov 7 2015, 11:07 PM) *
It's messy because we have Kucka and Poli in midfield with zero technical ability.


Exactly what I wanted to say
han2503
Bacca very close there, probably took a bit too much time
Nova
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 7 2015, 11:08 PM) *
Niang usually blunders at the crucial moment though, so wait for it


He just gave a great assist though. And now tried an Ibrahomivic kick ;-)
han2503
QUOTE (Nova @ Nov 7 2015, 09:10 PM) *
He just gave a great assist though. And now tried an Ibrahomivic kick ;-)

It's obvious that there's talent there, but he usually tends to mess up in crucial moments and his decision making is imo very poor
milanbuf88
QUOTE (Nova @ Nov 7 2015, 05:10 PM) *
He just gave a great assist though. And now tried an Ibrahomivic kick ;-)

He's shown more in 25 minutes than Honda has all season.
milanbuf88
QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 7 2015, 05:13 PM) *
It's obvious that there's talent there, but he usually tends to mess up in crucial moments and his decision making is imo very poor

He's 20. With more time that can improve.
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