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Re Carlo!

Wow! They're all turning against leonerd'oh! Just goes to show what a snake he really is;)

Didn't Leonardo also spend 13 years at Milan?

Yes. The *******.

13 years and still not a true Milanista.

Golden Carlo Ancelotti !

I hate this hypothetical talk.Let him get an offer by inter,and then we'll talk about it.
Ps:I was pretty pissed when Leo joined Inter,but only because of some other stuff he said after leaving Milan.

People painting Carlo as the saviour (he is still one of my all time favourites) and Leo as the Devil will do well to remember that Carlo coached Jube prior to his run with us

The big point that you're missing is that leo actually came out and said "I couldn't manage another team in Italy" and promptly went running to the dark side. As for Carlo, he often spoke of one day managing Roma so that is a totally different story.

The key word is prior to.

Roma to me is okay. They are the little kids of Serie A, those who walk on all fours. There are only three big clubs currently, all the other ones have either fallen from grace, or were never that big to start with. And as for Leo, it is okay to point fingers at what he did. And maybe he should not have done it, but you have to put yourself in his shoes and then think: Will you (or anyone else) ever get a chance to coach the top club in world football at the moment and deny that?

It's not the money, it's the recognition that matters. Maybe he will leave/get kicked out at the end of the season in a couple of months time, but he got the necessary exposure. If he had not taken it or the Brazil NT job, then it's back to the drawing board. Managing a Serie B/C club or a similar one in any other league, 5-10 years trying to establish himself, and then any other big offers. That too, maybe, if he had it in him and got a chance to prove himself. He is not Italian that he may get many chances at this stage or other here in this league, so like I said it was back to Brazil or any other obscure league.

There were people in the Milan management itself who said that they were okay with Leo leaving and coaching inter. To them, they were rival clubs, not enemies, you can dig out the direct quotes. Of course, Berlu and company will make you think otherwise, that is where the $$$ is. This is professional football people, not a WWII theater of war, please. Let's not be melodramatico.


Yeah, but he was a Milanista and a Romanista as a player, right? That matters not, he did not have any trouble going to Turin even after spending all those years in Milan and winning stuff. And to me Juve is the real enemy, not the pesky turds at inter. Beating down inter we will just be the best club in Milan, the real competition is the big one in Turin. It does not hurt me as much to see inter over take us in terms of Scudetto as seeing us on a standstill and Juve just a few away from a third star.

In any case, these last few years were the perfect opportunity to close the gap on the Zebras. But no, we have to beat the little blue guy (which we failed terribly at), while the black and white one was checking out the weather in Serie B. These special signings we made this year, the cash should have been splashed after the 2006 scandal - this way both inter would have been in their place, while we would have caught up with Juve, and who knows maybe won another CL to go with the 3-4 Scudetto trophies.

Are you kidding me? Juventus are not the real enemy. They never have been. Sportively, yes. But we've always had good relations with them. They reside in Turin, we reside in Milan. Inter is the real deal. They're like the evil twin, the one you'd never want to be associated with. Training Juventus and training Inter are two completely different things. Besides, Carlo was the coach of a small club like Parma, who was offered the job of Juventus coach. You think he should have turned it down, simply because he spent five years playing for us? Don't be ridiculous.

Nevertheless, the sporting person I am, I would readily vote for Juve to be the bigger enemy. Inter-city rivalries are all well and dandy, but in terms of success Juve were our real competitors for quite some time. I do hope we get the 2nd stars on our shirt, before they get the 3rd on theirs. Hopefully the day dawns when I can say that we are THE most successful club in Italy.

I can't agree with you on that one. To most Milan fans the definition of traitor (when Shevchenko isn't considered) means a player/coach/legend who went to Inter. It does not primarily relate to success and direct competition, it's more of a moral cathegory.

Also, Ancelotti IMO developed a special relationship with Milan more during his coaching years then his playing one. So a jump nowdays to Juve would be a mild shock, but back then, before his Milan term as coach and at the start of his career, where he took over from a Intertotocup placed Juventus...that was hardly considered negative.

Most probably, but I personally got an impression we were always a bit scared to take on the Old Lady. Anyone recall the 7-1. To inter we did a 6-0. Either that, or we gave too much respect to them up until the middle of the decade. To me they are the bigger fish, one who we should have been fighting against for top glory. The 2006 scandal completely turned the table, this I agree. And with an iota of brain (and some timely investments) we could have turned it into an advantage.

Well frankly we should not have been into the mess, and another title could have been awarded to us, when Juve got relegated. That's moral category for you. Getting our hands dirty, buy refs for a few measly points. Anyway, that is for another day. But I just feel that the champion club Milan is, we should have had a few more titles, both Juve and inter a few less. We definitely had/have the potential. Like I said above, I hope we get to be the numero uno Italian club in my lifetime, even if it takes 40 Scudettos to overtake either the snakes or the zebras.

Secondly, this does not mean inter get away easy, they are as much a rival club as anything. Just that as the second most successful club in Italy, we should be battling it out with the first, not third - and as of this writing inter are ahead of us, anyway. Bah!

Yup.

Does it really matter if Juve was worse or better than Printer? Up to '05 Inter didn't exist really....Juve were our main rival domestically and they were both crap in Europe.....a little recent success doesn't make Merda smell any better imho.

That said I never held it against Carlo for coaching Ladri and I don't hold it against Leo for coaching Merda....Capello coached Juve, Trap coached/played with all three etc etc. A TRAITOR to me is one who intentionally damages one club while claiming to support it. Leo is wholly and solely for Merda now because he's their coach....my way of thinking you don't have to agree.

And YES I wish he didn't say the crap he did....sometimes in life silence is GOLDEN.

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I wouldn't call that crap at all

Carlo is GOLDEN

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As for the snake that is leo, he was quick to grab all the attention from the tifosi on the last game of the season - even trying to turn them against the management! Next thing he is siding with the enemy. I don't recall either Carlo or Don Fabio ever doing that, and that is why they still get respect even today.

I've always seen Juve as a competitive but friendly rival. I would coach them and Milan and have no problem. On the other hand, I'd rather pull my fingernails out than coach Inter.

Even Abbiatti and some of the players were hurt by leo's treachery:



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I wonder what Gattuso will do if things start heating up

Remember the 0-4 thrashing 29-Aug-2009 ? Where Gattuso was given his marching orders, I hope Seedorf will be on the pitch with him.

I hope and pray that 5 match(?) ban knocked some sense into him. If he still hasn't realised how much of an embarassment he was that night...he should leave the team.

I don't care what Rino does anymore, so long as he doesn't put in a MotM performance for Inter like he did last season.

So on here Leo's regarded as a 100% traitor.

Interesting.

I must admit it's tantamount to Ally McCoist taking over at Celtic as manager, but at the same time I remember reading on here that some folks almost understood Leo as it was a well paid coaching job and he'd been pretty poorly treated by us as manager.

Personally I see him as someone who saw a job and another chance to prove himself as manager - if it had been anyone else he'd still have taken the job.

But it was Inter, and he clearly decided he'd take the consequences and sour his legend at Milan - it obviously didn't mean enough to him in the first place.

Again, I had no problem with Leonardo taking the Inter job. He was deemed as inappropriate by Berlusconi last season, which made him resign. He saw the opportunity to prove his ex-boss wrong, and took it. Instead, it's everything that's come after which royally pisses me off. His interviews, his celebrations, as if he's never played/worked for Milan and he's been at Inter for years. Very un-classy.

I've not been privvy to any of this being in the UK as I am, I only get to see live matches and that's about it.

Truth is he's an Inter man now, and he cannot act in a way which in any way ingratiates him to us because we are the enemy now.

But I do understand your feelings - I never much liked Pedro Mendes at Ibrox for Rangers, and I was pleased to sell him, but then we played his new team Sporting in the Europa League and he celebrated a goal he scored against us as if we were Celtic - and I despised him for it.

I do not think you can compare Leo coaching Inter with Ancelotti coaching Juve.

Ancelotti coached Juve, but now he knows better. In his book he makes it clear that he wouldnt go back there as he doesnt like the juve fans