il_diavolo_mtl
Oct 1 2009, 05:50 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 1 2009, 01:47 PM)

I must be the only one that isn't a fan of Drenthe, I really don't rate him. He can't defend at all.
Well he will probably be played LM then, if never seen him defending at madrid but my friend tells me is is a much better defender then marcelo (which isn't saying much)
Like diavolatto said, he can be used as an LMF. He's got speed and he's got good technique. He's not who I'd choose but at this moment every midfielder with a couple good qualities looks like a savior.
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 1 2009, 08:29 PM)

Fishdoll likes Parma's Galloppa. There's no way Ghirardi would let him go but he's the type of player Milan needs.
I'd take him too. There is a way Ghirardi would let him go but it's not the one we've walked on lately...
il_diavolo_mtl
Oct 1 2009, 06:30 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Oct 1 2009, 01:58 PM)

Like diavolatto said, he can be used as an LMF. He's got speed and he's got good technique. He's not who I'd choose but at this moment every midfielder with a couple good qualities looks like a savior.
I'd take him too. There is a way Ghirardi would let him go but it's not the one we've walked on lately...
i doubt they will get paloschi lol
ganney
Oct 1 2009, 06:57 PM
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 1 2009, 06:47 PM)

I must be the only one that isn't a fan of Drenthe, I really don't rate him. He can't defend at all.
i don't rate him that highly either but he's very energetic which is what we need, i'll take him
il_diavolo_mtl
Oct 1 2009, 07:11 PM
QUOTE (ganney @ Oct 1 2009, 02:57 PM)

i don't rate him that highly either but he's very energetic which is what we need, i'll take him
ok i'll understand if you don't rate him as a LB that's understandable, but as a LM he has an amazing skillset, pace, endurance, strengh, power
mishie
Oct 1 2009, 07:14 PM
He has played central a few times so perhaps he may even be the box to box midfielder we so desperately need!
ganney
Oct 1 2009, 07:25 PM
he's a very decent player. we sooo need a LB. we're getting killed out there
il_diavolo_mtl
Oct 1 2009, 07:54 PM
QUOTE (ganney @ Oct 1 2009, 03:25 PM)

he's a very decent player. we sooo need a LB. we're getting killed out there
well isn't Darmian a LB? how is he doing atm for Pandova?
Drenthe will be great for us, if we actually get him that is, not that it matters but his SM value(lol) is 5.8M
Tennie
Oct 1 2009, 07:58 PM
Darmian plays more on the right; Albertazzi plays more on the left -- though they BOTH play CB.
Darmian's still recovering from the broken metatarsal.
il_diavolo_mtl
Oct 1 2009, 08:02 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 1 2009, 03:58 PM)

Darmian plays more on the right; Albertazzi plays more on the left -- though they BOTH play CB.
Darmian's still recovering from the broken metatarsal.
does fishdoll think albert can start at LB for us yet or no?
mishie
Oct 1 2009, 08:04 PM
stupid move to loan him out..i'd prefer to have him in the squad than gooch...we saw in the brief appearences last season that Darmain was good enough to cope...damn this club and the younger players not good enough attitude!
il_diavolo_mtl
Oct 1 2009, 08:06 PM
QUOTE (mishie @ Oct 1 2009, 04:04 PM)

stupid move to loan him out..i'd prefer to have him in the squad than gooch...we saw in the brief appearences last season that Darmain was good enough to cope...damn this club and the younger players not good enough attitude!
and That is what separates us from barca, they always have a guy waiting in he wings when someone gets to old. Last i checked, the formula is working for them...
Boban10
Oct 1 2009, 08:10 PM
There were quite a few youngsters used during the friendlies at the summer, get them in the squad give them a chance, at the very least it might make the others wake up and get a grip of themselves.
Tennie
Oct 1 2009, 08:12 PM
Fishdoll suspect he might just, based on his U20 performance -- but the thing is, for the U20s, he plays in the middle. Only time Fishdoll has seen him at LB was over a year ago. The ptoential was VERY clear but he looked so skinny that even Pippo could break him in two.
Zed.D
Oct 1 2009, 08:24 PM
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Oct 2 2009, 12:36 AM)

and That is what separates us from barca, they always have a guy waiting in he wings when someone gets to old. Last i checked, the formula is working for them...
The problem is:
Barca's youth academy
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No disrespect to our better youth players but they're nowhere near the likes of Xavi, Messi, Iniesta, Pedro! etc. (obviously). I don't think even given the chance they can be, because we're talking about two very different systems/philosophies. EDIT: it's like comparing Hyundai with Mercedes. even if the former makes very good cars (like Genesis) it simply cannot be like the latter.
mishie
Oct 1 2009, 08:35 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 1 2009, 09:24 PM)

The problem is:
Barca's youth academy
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Milan's youth academy
No disrespect to our better youth players but they're nowhere near the likes of Xavi, Messi, Iniesta, Pedro! etc. (obviously). I don't think even given the chance they can be, because we're talking about two very different systems/philosophies.
Barca went the youth route for the same reason we have to...because they/we're skint.
Now for a few seasons a few of us have campioned the primavera cause, now in Leo's postion (no money, unmotivated players etc) and bearing in mind his last job (scout) he should be able to spot a youth player that has the technical ability to fit into this Leo "system" that has yet to become apparant.
So to me this is a ideal time to try these younger players after all he couldn't be in a deeper mess so he has nothing to lose
Zed.D
Oct 1 2009, 08:43 PM
QUOTE (mishie @ Oct 2 2009, 01:05 AM)

Barca went the youth route for the same reason we have to...because they/we're skint.
Now for a few seasons a few of us have campioned the primavera cause, now in Leo's postion (no money, unmotivated players etc) and bearing in mind his last job (scout) he should be able to spot a youth player that has the technical ability to fit into this Leo "system" that has yet to become apparant.
So to me this is a ideal time to try these younger players after all he couldn't be in a deeper mess so he has nothing to lose

I'm definietly in favor of trying that. if we're going to be poor, let's be so with Primavera players. I brought the Hyundai/Mercedes example but I didn't mean we suck that badly! and there's always room for improvement. it's just sad that Leo doesn't/didn't even try to introduce a couple of new faces when we know for a fact that he's good at spotting potentially good youngsters. to be honest I expected him to do that...
Tennie
Oct 1 2009, 08:46 PM
In his defense, he did bring in Abate who Fishdoll at least wants to see as a regular starter. Hasn't always had stellar games (he got pwned for much of milan-bari) but is improving as a RB and is really giving it all out there.
Zed.D
Oct 1 2009, 08:54 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 2 2009, 01:16 AM)

In his defense, he did bring in Abate who Fishdoll at least wants to see as a regular starter. Hasn't always had stellar games (he got pwned for much of milan-bari) but is improving as a RB and is really giving it all out there.
But I really expected more... especially when he said he wanted Galli to assist him for that. I expected at least 3 new faces from our youth system. but of course 1 is better than nothing.
Boban10
Oct 1 2009, 09:22 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 1 2009, 09:43 PM)

I'm definietly in favor of trying that. if we're going to be poor, let's be so with Primavera players. I brought the Hyundai/Mercedes example but I didn't mean we suck that badly! and there's always room for improvement. it's just sad that Leo doesn't/didn't even try to introduce a couple of new faces when we know for a fact that he's good at spotting potentially good youngsters. to be honest I expected him to do that...
I was excited at the start of the summer as i felt the same, that Leo would bring in the youngsters and freshen things up. Still hoping it will happen, i feel the crowd would get behind the youngsters and encourage them, i will.
ganney
Oct 1 2009, 09:45 PM
QUOTE (Boban10 @ Oct 1 2009, 10:22 PM)

I was excited at the start of the summer as i felt the same, that Leo would bring in the youngsters and freshen things up. Still hoping it will happen, i feel the crowd would get behind the youngsters and encourage them, i will.
guess u watched too many barcelona games last season.....
Bluesummers
Oct 2 2009, 06:27 PM
Its hard to just bring in the youth, we have very few players who are able to play at Serie A level. Albertazzi/darmian/zigoni/baretta/di gennaro/paloschi
Barcelona have at least 90% of their youth team who can come in and play. They have a guy named Gai assulin who is 16 and is already as good as pato.
We just don't have that. Our youth system needs new buildings/structures/ better coaches and they need to have the chance to play games like coppa.
Bluesummers
Oct 2 2009, 06:47 PM
QUOTE
Arsenal Star Cesc Fabregas: I Love Milan & San Siro
Arsenal midfielder Cesc Fabregas would prefer to win the Premier League over the Champions League as he reveals his penchant for Italian football.
Fabregas is well aware that not everything turns to gold, but he is desperate to win the Premier League.
"I want to win the Premier more than the Champions League," Fabregas told La Gazzetta Dello Sport.
"Four years without a trophy is too long. We are young players, but we are growing up fast."
So fast in fact, that the Spanish international believes this is the season where glory days will be seen again at the Emirates.
"We all believe that this will be our year," added the midfielder.
Fabregas then turned his attention to Italian football, and while the Emirates stadium is seen as a masterpiece, the Spaniard is in love with the San Siro.
"I like Serie A a lot. I like playing against Italian teams as they play is similar to Spanish football. Technique, and winning tactics," added Fabregas.
"I love the San Siro. It has seduced me, it's imposing and extraordinary."

You mean you love camp nou, please don't tease us. We are not emotionally stable and may hang on your words like they were written on stone.
ganney
Oct 2 2009, 06:53 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 2 2009, 07:27 PM)

Its hard to just bring in the youth, we have very few players who are able to play at Serie A level. Albertazzi/darmian/zigoni/baretta/di gennaro/paloschi
Barcelona have at least 90% of their youth team who can come in and play. They have a guy named Gai assulin who is 16 and is already as good as pato.
We just don't have that. Our youth system needs new buildings/structures/ better coaches and they need to have the chance to play games like coppa.
i'm sure we've got competent young players even before we sign/re-signed the ones u'v mentioned. its the whole club structure that's faulty. last season guardiola handed Sergio Busquet a chance as a midfield deputy, he took the chance and never looked back, establishing himself in the team..also getting to play in the ECL semis&final.. he's also always included in the national squad these days(all within a year)
how will our youth thrive when galliani keeps handing new contracts to favalli, cancelling out viudez&cardaccio cos they Will get no playing time, even flamini still struggles to hold down a starting spot
i don't see barca sendin out legions on loans&co-ownerships... we seriously need a change
Protagonist
Oct 2 2009, 09:19 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 2 2009, 08:47 PM)


You mean you love camp nou, please don't tease us. We are not emotionally stable and may hang on your words like they were written on stone.
Thanks for posting
Could it be? I would love for Cesc to be within our squad!!
il_diavolo_mtl
Oct 2 2009, 11:26 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 2 2009, 02:47 PM)


You mean you love camp nou, please don't tease us. We are not emotionally stable and may hang on your words like they were written on stone.
OMG i would LOVE THIS!!!
ganney
Oct 3 2009, 10:53 AM
QUOTE (Protagonist @ Oct 2 2009, 10:19 PM)

Thanks for posting
Could it be? I would love for Cesc to be within our squad!!
since we're all making wishes, i would love to have torres& iniesta too
Protagonist
Oct 3 2009, 10:56 AM
QUOTE (ganney @ Oct 3 2009, 12:53 PM)

since we're all making wishes, i would love to have torres& iniesta too

If there is one player in the world I would wish to have with us, it would be Kaka

I wish he would come back.
ganney
Oct 3 2009, 11:17 AM
QUOTE (Protagonist @ Oct 3 2009, 11:56 AM)

If there is one player in the world I would wish to have with us, it would be Kaka

I wish he would come back.
at 65mil i'd have sold him too, i just wouldn't have sold gourcuff& folded my arms while juve signed diego
il_diavolo_mtl
Oct 3 2009, 02:16 PM
QUOTE (ganney @ Oct 3 2009, 07:17 AM)

at 65mil i'd have sold him too, i just wouldn't have sold gourcuff& folded my arms while juve signed diego
+10 000
ganney
Oct 3 2009, 06:54 PM
Milan Ready To Block Luciano Spalletti’s Zenit St. Petersburg Move - Report
The Rossoneri are reportedly lining up the former Roma coach for next summer...
Following recent reports that Luciano Spalletti could be on the verge of signing a deal to coach Russian side Zenit St.Petersburg, it seems Milan could be ready to hijack the move according to GazzettadelloSport.
With Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani having attempted to sign the former Roma tactician over the summer, it seems the Rossoneri could be ready to have another go as they look to convince Spalletti to stay solo until the end of the current campaign.
Given the rules in the Italian game which prevent a coach from coaching more than one club in any given season, Spalletti would not be available to take over at Milanello until July 2010.
However with Leonardo’s future on the Milan bench surely set to come to a premature end, the experienced coach may think twice before penning a deal with the Russian giants.
Stefano Federici, Goal.com
Bluesummers
Oct 3 2009, 07:56 PM
Not gonna happen. As if spaletti is gonna turn down moscow's big money offer
il_diavolo_mtl
Oct 3 2009, 08:04 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 3 2009, 03:56 PM)

Not gonna happen. As if spaletti is gonna turn down moscow's big money offer

st_peteresbourg isn't moscow...
Bluesummers
Oct 3 2009, 08:07 PM
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Oct 3 2009, 02:04 PM)

st_peteresbourg isn't moscow...
sorry my bad

its the same thing anyway russian oil money.
MizNelson
Oct 3 2009, 08:14 PM
QUOTE (Protagonist @ Oct 3 2009, 03:56 AM)

If there is one player in the world I would wish to have with us, it would be Kaka

I wish he would come back.
Why? So he can score his usual 7 Serie A goals (half of them on PKs)?
He's gone. People gotta get over it.
Bluesummers
Oct 3 2009, 08:16 PM
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Oct 3 2009, 02:14 PM)

Why? So he can score his usual 7 Serie A goals (half of them on PKs)?
He's gone. People gotta get over it.

But thats like saying get over a relationship with someone you loved for 6 years. Its not easy
il_diavolo_mtl
Oct 3 2009, 10:23 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 3 2009, 04:16 PM)


But thats like saying get over a relationship with someone you loved for 6 years. Its not easy

well the closure phase is always made easy by the first Restraining order...
vnata001
Oct 4 2009, 12:08 AM
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Oct 3 2009, 01:14 PM)

Why? So he can score his usual 7 Serie A goals (half of them on PKs)?
He's gone. People gotta get over it.
lol what!? this guy gave his absolute all to this team. For some one who shits square bricks anytime someone sensibly says dida should be shown the door, this is quite a hypocritical comment.
If you think all kaka did while he was here was score 7 goals per season half on pks, should you even be posting in an ac milan forum?
back when we had kaka, we were actually good. so naturally, wanting us to be good again would lead to wanting what we had when we were good. and right now, considering all of the possible players in the world that we could sign, none of them would be better options that having never lost kaka...hence the comment..
lets not sacrifice intelligence for the sake of a snarky remark.
Bluesummers
Oct 4 2009, 05:05 AM
QUOTE (vnata001 @ Oct 3 2009, 06:08 PM)

lol what!? this guy gave his absolute all to this team. For some one who shits square bricks anytime someone sensibly says dida should be shown the door, this is quite a hypocritical comment.
If you think all kaka did while he was here was score 7 goals per season half on pks, should you even be posting in an ac milan forum?
back when we had kaka, we were actually good. so naturally, wanting us to be good again would lead to wanting what we had when we were good. and right now, considering all of the possible players in the world that we could sign, none of them would be better options that having never lost kaka...hence the comment..
lets not sacrifice intelligence for the sake of a snarky remark.
whoo hoo hooo woooozaaaa!
Zed.D
Oct 4 2009, 11:34 AM
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Oct 3 2009, 11:44 PM)

Why? So he can score his usual 7 Serie A goals (half of them on PKs)?
What?

At least get your facts straight first before you come out hitting out at him...
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+infinity @ vnata's post.
Suhail 3
Oct 4 2009, 12:11 PM
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 4 2009, 12:34 PM)

What?

At least get your facts straight first before you come out hitting out at him...
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+infinity @ vnata's post.
its funny as to how she has the nerve to target and abuse KAKA' but praise and back up that mongrel DIDA
QUOTE (Suhail 3 @ Oct 4 2009, 03:11 PM)

its funny as to how she has the nerve to target and abuse KAKA' but praise and back up that mongrol DIDA
What the **** is your problem?
At least learn to spell it correctly...
Suhail 3
Oct 4 2009, 12:44 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Oct 4 2009, 01:30 PM)

What the **** is your problem?
At least learn to spell it correctly...
i aint got no problem you seem to have more of a problem than i do i just cant understand why her and some people are having a go at kaka yet sticking up for the likes of dida and ronaldinho
il_diavolo_mtl
Oct 4 2009, 03:12 PM
QUOTE (Suhail 3 @ Oct 4 2009, 08:44 AM)

i aint got no problem you seem to have more of a problem than i do i just cant understand why her and some people are having a go at kaka yet sticking up for the likes of dida and ronaldinho
i stick up for ronaldinho because he is a great player just stuck in a tactical quicksand where he is supose to "be kaka" whereas he cannot, his game is very solid and he is the only player tha passes it to the forwards with good in balls, while pirlo goes either to abate/zambro and seedorf hacks at a wall of defenders with halfass chips, dihno's passing is f*cking key to our success
Tennie
Oct 4 2009, 03:24 PM
I'm not one of the 'kaka can do no wrong' bandwagon. Never have been. Not going to get into any arguments about it though. He was a very good player for Milan while he was here. Now he's not. Time to move on.
As for transfers, Fishdoll would like a clueful management please.
TriniKing_CE
Oct 4 2009, 03:31 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 4 2009, 11:24 AM)

I'm not one of the 'kaka can do no wrong' bandwagon. Never have been. Not going to get into any arguments about it though. He was a very good player for Milan while he was here. Now he's not. Time to move on.
As for transfers, Fishdoll would like a clueful management please.
And who might those be?!
TriniKing_CE
Oct 4 2009, 03:32 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 4 2009, 11:24 AM)

As for transfers, Fishdoll would like a clueful management please.
Fishdoll's is thinking straight today I see!
Bluesummers
Oct 4 2009, 06:46 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 4 2009, 09:24 AM)

As for transfers, Fishdoll would like a clueful management please.
Oh gosh, how I have wished for that for years now!
MizNelson
Oct 4 2009, 09:14 PM
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 3 2009, 01:16 PM)


But thats like saying get over a relationship with someone you loved for 6 years. Its not easy

True.
QUOTE (Tennie)
As for transfers, Fishdoll would like a clueful management please.
Want a pony to go with it?
QUOTE (Suhail 3 @ Oct 4 2009, 05:44 AM)

i aint got no problem you seem to have more of a problem than i do i just cant understand why her and some people are having a go at kaka yet sticking up for the likes of dida and ronaldinho
Not only do you seem to have the mental capacity of a sea monkey, but what the hell do you care what players people stick up for?
And God forbid anyone take a dig at Kaka while it's open season on anyone else.
il_diavolo_mtl
Oct 4 2009, 09:33 PM
QUOTE (MizNelson @ Oct 4 2009, 05:14 PM)

Not only do you seem to have the mental capacity of a sea monkey, but what the hell do you care what players people stick up for?
And God forbid anyone take a dig at Kaka while it's open season on anyone else.
haha double negatives are gods way of hating language
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