What a Confederations Cup Luis Fabiano had. Top scorer and looked a world beater. Been prominent for the national team since Dunga's reign, with a quite frightening scoring rate. Didn't have maybe quite as brilliant a season for Sevilla last year, despite them finishing a sturdy 3rd, but no one would doubt his quality.

In today's silly market of Kaka going for 56M, C Ron costing 80M and Alonso 30 not to mention Santa Cruz for 18M, prices are insane, and a striker of Fabiano's quality would be worth 20-30M easily.

Yet Sevilla only wanted about 15-18M tops? And Milan refused to go higher than about 8M?

The Fabiano case is a curious one - a world class striker who's played at the highest levels and done well in them, including a fantastic Confeds Cup, yet Milan, a team not completely poor if not quite Man City refuse to pay what he's worth?

Refuse to pay anything more than about 8M?

And then a month or so later sign KJH for about 13M?

So, we wouldn't pay that money for Fabiano, but would for KJH.

I don't quite understand that.

we spent that much on huntelaar because he is younger and plus i heard that only 4 mil will go real this summer and 11 mil will go to them next year....its a better deal then 18 for a 30 year old

I personally don't think Fabiano was worth what Sevilla were asking. He's had a good 18 months, but before that? And he's 29.

This is one of the times when I actually agree with Milan being tight with the money.

I think the club is very stingy now. I can't remember the last time we really bought a top player for a fair price. We tend to just hope a good player has a bad season or two and wait for the club to sell him, we never tend to buy players at the top of their game. Was Rui the last one?

Rui and Nesta came in the same window for 35 (rui) and 30 (nesta) respectively. Rui remains the most expensive player we've bought.

Then again, we haven't bought a whole lot of big name players since that time.

Zambrotta and Ronaldinho are fairly big names, you could even throw KJH in there. But rather compete for them when they are hot property, we just seem to wait until they are cast off by a club and sign them cheap.

He's had more than a good 18 months tbh. He's actually been brilliant since 2001.



28 I think, but I do accept he's not a teenager. But Brazilians rarely do badly in Serie A, and we'd have been getting an experienced world class striker who's had experience of a higher level (sadly La Liga is better than Serie A right now) and done very well in it.



This is one of those times you and I disagree

Well i think that we did werry well, Fabiano is proven striker but Oliveira was too and we pay him €17.5million and we didn't see nothing. I think that KJH was right choice for this year not to mention that we allredy sign Dzeko for 20 Mil € and he is coming next season so Fabiano would be just backup for this 2 strikers. That's why we were willing to pay onlly 8 Mil € for him...


We had a lot of bad expirience with old used players here is the list :


1. Ricardo Oliveira : €17.5million Betis 46 app (26 Goals) Milan 26 app (3 Goals)
2. Rivaldo : Free transfered Barcelona 156 app (86 Goals) Milan 22app (5 Goals)
3. Redondo : £11m move Real Madrid 165app (6 Goals) Milan 16app (0 Goals)
4. Jose Mari : 22 Mil € Atletico Madrid 84app (20 Goals) Milan 52app (5 Goals)
5. Javi Moreno : 16 Mil € Alaves 71app (29 Goals) Milan 16app (2 Goals)
6. Luis Fabiano Sevilla 105app ( 47Goals) so when u use math he would score no more then 7 Gols for Milan XD

Still think that Fabiano would be good for us?, not to mention that Holand players allways played well in Italy and that KJH is onlly 26 whille fabiano will get 30 this year...

exactly. I think as good as fabiano is by the time he'll take to adjust to serie A he will be 30 and then he will have a max 2-3 seasons before calling it quits.

Huntelaar has 6-7 seasons with us and is the better investment.


Also we have dzeko coming next year so i'm not too sad in the striker department. Hopefully either inzaghi will retire or borriello will be shipped off to outerspace.

Do people still doubt that Fabiano would have been a truly wonderful signing?

And that he is worth the money we refused to pay?

I'm happier with the hunter for 15m than Fab for 18m. Regardless though, I would've welcomed either.

Fair reply

I hope Hunter will be a gem for us, but I've seen more of Fabiano and I know what he could have offered us, and I think he'd have been fab, pun intended.

He flourishes in the Brasilian NT because they play to his strength, he's sarrounded by players that can create a chance for him out of nothing. Do you think he'd be as good with the stale football Milan play?

No Fabiano was not worth the money Sevilla were asking for he's about to turn 29, we'd barely get 3 good years out of him if that.

I'm happy we went for Klaas, he's our next Pippo, Boriello is a target man, he might not score us 20 goals a season but he plays very well with his back to goal. Plus everyone is pouncing on him for not scoring in pre-season or his first 2 official matches, but give the guy a break, I'm not his biggest fan, infact I was so opposed to his transfers I couldn't even begin to tell you. But the guy is coming off an injury that kept him out for an entire season, he needs time to regain his form, if you look back to the games he did play last season before the injury you can see that he was playing great, scored goals, really showed great energy. We need to give him some time. And the games in pre-season don't really count as that was one of the worst pre-seasons I've ever seen Milan play and no one really did anything note worthy in it.

you'll score a lot of goals when you're playing in front of Kaka, Robinho and not to mention Melo..

and guys, where's the article about Dzeko comin' in next year?

I think Fabiano is still a bit under-rated, but given the history of South American players going from Spain to italy, his age and the money we got KJH for, he wasn't the best option. I'm pleased with Huntelaar and the good price was got him for.

People keep mentioning Dzeko next year like it's a sure thing - have I missed something?

Bluey says it's a done deal. I don't want to come out and say he's lying. Do you want to come out and say he's lying?

There's a slight possibility that Dzeko might come next year, but don't hold your breath for it to happen

Dzeko is not coming to Milan unless Milan put in a bid Wolfsburg accept. There's no pre-contract, no agreement.

LOL @ Jack. I never said it was a done deal. I said it had a very good chance of being completed.


@mike: We have an agreement with wolfsburg that goes along these lines. If by the end of the group stages of the CL, Milan qualify to the round of 16 and wolfsburg do not, then we can sign Dzeko for a fee of 20 million in January. That is his release clause that he has built in his contract. If however, wolfsburg qualify or we decide to buy him next summer, that deal is still in existence.


Thats is why I personally believe he is one of the reasons why B&G didn't spend more than 15m on any transfers. He was our main target this summer and we did fight for him until about August. When we couldn't get him we had that deal made with wolfsburg. So we are still going to go for him, which i believe strongly.

Lets not forget too that Dzeko wants to come here and he will one way or another. Whether that is in January, next summer or in a few years. But I believe he'll come in Jan.

It's common knowledge that he had that release clause put in so it won't be a exclusive thing just for us..after all 2 or 3 EPL clubs looked at him so who's to say thay won't buy him..or is this another smokescreen scenario you love so much

He's coming here. I"ll make you a bet on that, If i'm wrong i'll leave milanfan forever. He's said publicly he'll play for milan so I highly doubt he will go to the epl. Furthermore, you can ask Damir here who has talked with him directly.

make the bet and the stakes then....i don't care
What he said and wants doesn't always tally up with what the club decides

Milan want him.

He has a release clause.

He wants milan.


There is only one problem in this picture. Money. If we have the funds, he will come.



Okay how about this for rules.

If he comes here, You put in your signature this line: "Mourinho is god's gift to football and he is the greatest coach who has ever lived"


If he doesn't come here I'll put any line in my sig you want.

heres yours then "Carlo Anchelotti was the best coach we had for many a year and i miss him dearly!"

DEAL?

....fine deal. I'm going to enjoy winning this bet knowing how much you hate mou

ditto with you and Carlo

Did you decide the basis of the bet? Is it if he comes within the next 2 transfer windows or if he ever comes to Milan period?

Because I wouldn't put it past Fester to snatch him up when he's 32

Either Jan or summer 2010 is the deal.

Make it happen Damir. And we can bench R80 and actually play a trident.

+1.. hope it'll happen.. can't wait to see the strong side of milan again..

As an aside, KJH seems to be making absolutely no impression so far this season. No goals, one start, all a bit feeble.

Are you all still delighted it's him we signed and not Fabiano.

At the moment, yes, but that's only becase I feel Fabiano would have only been given the same (lack of) opportunity that KJH has been given.

It does beg the question of why he isn't being given a chance. Admittedly he wasn't much cop against Livorno but he's being given similar opportunities at Milan as he was at Madrid.

I think it's way too early to say he's not being given a chance. He was suspended for game one. Game 2 was the derby and I wouldn't have started him there anyway. He did start game 3 and yesterday was a CL game -- for which I'd always start Pippo.

He'll be given his chances.

Herein lies the problem. You keep justifying his absences - we didn't buy a 15M player to justify not including him.

You spend this kind of money because you're going to play such a player on such a big occasion.

Why buy him if 'Pippo is better for that game' or ''the occasion is too big this time' etc etc.

We didn't spend that much cash on someone who will cameo 'in the right circumstances' now and again.

Well, I'm still not worried. I think that it takes a player time to slot into a squad. What Sneijder did for the cugini is in my experience the exception rather than the rule. And just because we bought Huntelaar doesn't mean he's going to be an automatic starter -- there ARE other strikers in the squad and there should be competition for spots. So, looks like we'll agree to disagree on this one at least for now. If Huntelaar's only getting odd minutes in January, then I'll start to worry.

it takes more than a couple of weeks to understand your new team's tactics.. and it takes longer to understand how your teammates play..

it's gonna take a while but he'll be there..

Oh the impatience!

My experience in football is that if a player doesn't show signs within the first match or two, then they never will.

There are occasions when it takes time for a manager or player to bed in to their new surroundings, but it's usually off and running from day one or never at all.

I hope Hunter is one of the rare exceptions.

And who's to say Fabiano wouldn't have been another Oliveira? After all Oliveira had an outstanding scoring record in La Liga as well.

As for KJH, I personally think he needs better supply and more games before we can judge him. Like Tennie says, we have to give him til Christmas before we can really judge him.

Not for Brazil though, and not in any of the European competitions for Betis. Fabiano is a class above what he was.



Well here's hoping he proves his quality. Because right now I'm wishing we'd just spent the few extra quid on Fabiano. Admittedly though he probably wouldn't have got any chances either mind you...

I would prefer Dzeko over anyone right now as I feel he could become our new 'Sheva' I've heard that he still hasn't extended at Wolfsburg so could be available in the summer. If we are to get him though we need to act fast before someone else signs him.

Imagine this..



Attacking football here we come

Get rid of Zambro and get two young(ish) full backs who can send decent balls into the box and you'd have a decent team there. That forward line would be immense.

Danny I don't get this... I agree with you what you post most of the time but in this issue I find you unbelievably and ridiculously unfair. He has featured in one ****ing game in which everyone did **** until Ronaldinho came off!! You expected the new boy to takes us out of our misery all on his own?? Ain't gonna ****ing happen!

chill out greek. Go and mix with a nice french women and have lots of beautiful "freaks"




ehhh dozzerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Not really what I said bud

In fact, nothing like what I said

But I have no idea why BS recommends French women...

He's on drugs again. That's why! He'll look at a picture of Samuel L Jackson and go, "Goddamn...Kate Winslet looks hot in that pic!", when he's that buzzed.

Stop swearing so much, what do you think you are? British?