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Bluesummers

Milan Vs Torino

Serie A - Week 32

Date: Sunday, 19 Apr 2009, 20:30 CET

Where: San Siro





QUOTE

Table:

Inter 73
Juve 63
Milan 61
Genoa 57
Fiorentina 55
Roma 49



Rest of schedule:


Milan - Torino 19/04/2009
Milan - Palermo 26/04/2009
Catania - Milan 03/05/2009
Milan - Juventus 10/05/2009
Udinese - Milan 17/05/2009
Milan - Roma 24/05/2009
Fiorentina - Milan 31/05/2009


In our next three games we have to get maximum points. It is absolutely crucial if we hope to finish in the top 3.


Our last 4 games will be hell and If we are gonna lose 3rd place, it will be then.


Line up:

Dida-Zambrotta-Maldini-Senderos-Favalli-Becks-Pirlo-Seedorf-Kaka-Pato-Inzaghi
gal_kenny
No seedorf pls!!!really no seedorf..and i'll slot in favalli in the middle and Antonini!!
Bluesummers
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Kaka: I Will Be Back To My Best Soon

Milan ace Kaka has told fans not to worry and promised them that he will be back to his best, sooner rather than later.

The Brazilian has spoken of his fitness and physical condition, following the recent trouble he endured on international duty with Brazil. Kaka had problems with his left foot, but he insists the worst is behind him as he looks onwards and upwards.

"I am working well and it will not be long until I am back in top form," Kaka told Milan Channel.

"I want to get back to my best to help Milan reach our objectives, both present and future," he continued.

Kaka has been watching events unfold in Abruzzo following the earthquake disaster. The playmaker revealed that the club are planning to give relief for those who have been affected by the disaster.

"We are preparing something which will be announced soon," he said.

"We will do something to help them and we are trying to find the right way of doing it."


For those of you who might fear he's playing like this in order to lower his price tag.
Bluesummers
QUOTE (gal_kenny @ Apr 11 2009, 06:49 PM) *
No seedorf pls!!!really no seedorf..and i'll slot in favalli in the middle and Antonini!!

Even kaladze would do better in Mid than seedorf tongue.gif
han2503
My preferred line-up

Zambro--Bonera--Favalli--Janku
Becks--Pirlo--Flamini
Dinho
Pato--Sheva


Preferrably would like both Pippo and Kaka to get 45 minutes, switching with Sheva and Dinho respectively.

After last week Seedorf is currently black listed to me, until he plays like he can again I would not like to see him anywhere near the starting line up, but we all know he's going to start come Sunday, no questions asked
Ry4n
i may get shot for this but guntootsmiley2.gif stop.gif ....... i want Seedorf to start this game he plays well against Torino !
Tennie
So, double training today for the team.

Morning training has taken place - work in the sand pit, on various pitches, runs in the woods, etc. Nobody was listed as having trained in the gym, which I take as a good sign.

There will also be an afternoon training session.
whoarethepatriots
Gazzetta have an interesting formation for this match

Dida; Antonini, Senderos, Maldini, Zambrotta
Seedorf, Pirlo, Ambrosini, Pato
Kakà, Inzaghi

4-4-2 they think, with Pato on the wing and Kaka as a strikers or a SS
Tennie
Here is gazzetta's projected lineup:

Dida
Antonini Senderos Maldini Zambrotta
Seedorf Pirlo Ambrosini Pato
Kakà Inzaghi
(they have it as a 4-4-2 and in that order).

Note that Janku is suspended for this one.


Tennie
Fishdoll gosh. He wasn't quick enough in stealing the braincell from whoarethepatriots! Oops! smile.gif
han2503
I see Carlo thought that the mess against Chievo was a brilliant piece of coaching and wants to repeat the masterpice against Toro rolleyes.gif

Good ole' Carlo, never lets us down... rolleyes.gif
Tennie
The second training session was more drills and practice games. Kaka and Il Capitano trained with the team.

Arrigo Sacchi must be nostalgic these days; he was at training today too.
Jack Sparrow
I'm glad to see him back. Carlo needs him.
Tennie
Apparently, Antonini pulled up in training yesterday and may be out for the game. sad.gif
Jack Sparrow
Oh great. So Favalli at LB, going up against Abate. This doesn't look good. There goes our width.

So Pato will play a Rooney, out wide on the left. With Pippo and Kaka up front.
dst
I hope Carlo does not make this retarded choice with Pato on the left again. Why give less chances to score to someone who's got such a good relationship with the net?
Tennie
Re: Antonini's injury -- not that it's too likely to happen but might it be better to play Zambrotta on the left and stick one of the kids on the right? We do in theory have two RBs on the squad, neither of whom have started (Darmian and Mattioni).
Jack Sparrow
Hmm....Darmian against Rosina....I suppose it can't go too badly. But I'm pretty sure our backline will be...

Zambrotta---Senderos---Maldini---Favalli.

MizNelson
QUOTE (Channel 4)
Milan (probable): Abbiati; Antonini, Senderos, Maldini, Zambrotta; Seedorf, Ambrosini, Pirlo, Pato; Kaka, F.Inzaghi

One of these things is not like the other. smile.gif
Habitant
wouldnt it make more sense to have kaka on the left?... and pato up front... huh.gif

anyways when pato drifts out wide it's on the right side, unless somehow he gets pushed on the left. a whole game there? only carlo rolleyes.gif
Darunia
Why wouldn't Carlo go with his usual 4-3-1-2 with Kaka supporting Pato/Inzaghi? It's not like Carlo to change.
Tennie
Am I the only one really worried about what's goign to happen to the left side of our defense?
whoarethepatriots
Forget the left side, im worried about the whole defence. Maldini cannot hold the fort on his own, and Abate will run rings around whoever he wishes to humiliate.

I think Carlo is crazy playing Pato on the wing, but the plan is a special kind of crazy which may work. It may force Abate to think twice about bombing forward and leaving the Toro right back alone to deal with Pato.
Zed.D
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Apr 16 2009, 03:57 PM) *
So Pato will play a Rooney, out wide on the left. With Pippo and Kaka up front.

What dst said. it's really stupid. is Carlo trying to make Kaka feel better by playing him in a position where he has a better chance of scoring goals? neither Pato is as good as Kaka in Kaka's position, nor Kaka is as good as Pato in Pato's position. let them play in their natural positions for ****'s sake!
dst
I'd play Ambro on the left, there's really no other choice.
dst
I'd play Ambro on the left, there's really no other choice.

edit: Or maybe what Tennie said. Darmian or Mattioni could play on the right with Zambro on the left, they deserve a chance. What about Bonera, is he not available?
Tennie
nope, he's still training separately along with the legion of other injured players.
MizNelson
QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 16 2009, 03:51 PM) *
the legion of other injured players.

That would be funny if it weren't so true.

(On a separate note, Didafan is upset that nobody congratulated her on her 2,000th post.)
Jack Sparrow
Erm...I only congratulate people on their 2003rd post. wink.gif tongue.gif

Congrats Miz....
MizNelson
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Apr 16 2009, 09:46 PM) *
Erm...I only congratulate people on their 2003rd post. wink.gif tongue.gif

HA! Better late than never, I suppose. For once the pirate beat Fishdoll to something. smile.gif

*peck on the cheek for Jack*
Jack Sparrow
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aLbErTo
i think there will be no youth in our defence against torino... something like zambro-senderos-maldini-favalli ?? probably, ambro will be in the middle i'm sure, we can expect similar x11 like against chievo
Tennie
I think you're probably right, alberto. It scares me a little because Abate is crazy fast and he'll run circles around Favalli.

Signor Banti will referee the game.

(For zeddie and Locke: Rosetti will referee Chievo-Siena).
Zed.D
QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 17 2009, 02:14 PM) *
(For zeddie and Locke: Rosetti will referee Chievo-Siena).

For a second there I thought Locke is a Rosetti fan!

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Apr 17 2009, 08:16 AM) *
Erm...I only congratulate people on their 2003rd post. wink.gif tongue.gif

Congrats Miz....

I'll congratulate her on her 2009th post. that's cooler wink.gif
Tennie
Haha. not quite, zeddie!

btw, apparently Dunga will be at the San Siro to watch Milan-Toro.
Zed.D
QUOTE (Tennie @ Apr 17 2009, 03:41 PM) *
btw, apparently Dunga will be at the San Siro to watch Milan-Toro.

Dunga... dry.gif I hope it's going to be Pato's good night. the game vs Torino at the Olimpico was a turning point in Pato's season as from that game onward he started scoring consistently.
Tennie
Standard training today. Highlights included Kaka, Pato, and Ronaldinho working on shots on goal and assists and Borriello starting to run again (FINALLY).

Tomorrow will be the prematch practice and press conference.
whoarethepatriots
Since Inter are going to win the Championship, i hope they beat Inter, and we win, thus overtaking Juve in the standings
CrazyMilanFan
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Apr 17 2009, 06:09 PM) *
Since Inter are going to win the Championship, i hope they beat Inter, and we win, thus overtaking Juve in the standings

u mean that inter beat juve rite smile.gif
han2503
QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Apr 17 2009, 05:09 PM) *
Since Inter are going to win the Championship, i hope they beat Inter, and we win, thus overtaking Juve in the standings

I'd personally prefer a draw, we'de be level on points with Juve and 2 points closer to Inter IF we win that is. I think that would be the win win situation for us
whoarethepatriots
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Apr 17 2009, 06:58 PM) *
u mean that inter beat juve rite smile.gif


D'oh

Thats what i meant, Inter winning
A.X
i hope the starting line up wil be(4-1-2-2-1) : dida
Zambrotta maldini senderos Antoninni
pirlo
seedorf ambrossini
pato Ronaldinho
Kaka
and the second half : pippo will go in place of pato
and beckham in place of seedorf
so the formation will be then : dida
(4-1-2-1-2) Zambrotta maldini senderos Antoninni
pirlo
beckham ambrossini
Ronaldinho
Kaka inzaghi

i think the score will be 2-0 for milan. (with kaka and R80 scoring)

and i think pato when playin on the wing ... each time the ball goes to him ... he passes on 2 or 3 defenders ...
so i think if he does that and then cross the ball ... milan will get lots of scoring apportunities...that's all (Holla!) cool.gif
Tennie
Antonini is hurt (bad tackle by ronaldinho in training yesterday) and will be out for 2-3 weeks. Knee sprain.
A.X
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Milan are preparing for their upcoming clash against Torino this weekend, and it understood that David Beckham is set to sit on the pine for the third consecutive match.

Corriere dello Sport claims that the coach Carlo Ancelotti is keen to field a similar starting eleven to the side that just got over the line against Chievo Verona 1-0 last weekend.

If this is the case, then Beckham is a definite to will be left on the bench, whilst the hero from their most recent outing, Clarence Seedorf, will be given another opportunity to play from the start.

Andrea Pirlo and Massimo Ambrosini will play alongside Seedorf in the midfield, whilst Alexandre Pato, Filippo Inzaghi and Kaka will be utilised in the attacking positions.

The Rossoneri have a few concerns at the back, however, as Marek Jankulovski will miss through suspension, whilst his usual replacement in Luca Antonini is out injured.

It is rumoured that Ancelotti will play the veteran Giuseppe Favalli on the left, with Paolo Maldini and Philippe Senderos in the middle, and Gianluca Zambrotta on the right. Dida will take his place in goal once again, after his impressive performance last weekend.

Milan host Torino at the San Siro stadium this Sunday, with the play scheduled to get underway at 20:30 CET.

Adrian Del Monte, Goal.com

same formation as the chievo match ....
MizNelson
Dunga, schmunga. He'll probably look for an excuse on Sunday not to play Pato in Brazil's next match.
Zed.D
Schmunga... what does that mean? I like it!
Tennie
Call ups:

Dida, Kalac
Darmian, Favalli, Maldini, Mattioni, Senderos, Zambrotta
Ambrosini, Beckham, Flamini, Pirlo
Inzaghi, Kakà, Pato, Seedorf, Shevchenko, Ronaldinho

Yet again, Iross will be despondent that Emerson wasn't called up.
Zed.D
I'd like to see Darmian and Mattioni get some minutes (not milliseconds... minutes)
Tennie
Here's the full text of Ancelotti's press conference (translation courtesy of acmilan.com's english page):

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'It's an important moment of the season, each moment has its own difficulties and importance, tomorrow against Torino as well. We will find a closed down team, but Milan are going through a good moment. I'm not satisfied with the way we're playing, but we are looking for solutions to play better. Will we use the same formation as against Chievo? We will certainly use a diamond formation again in midfield. Torino are a very careful team. They are going through a delicate moment and they are coming here to get points. They will play with attention and application. They have refound these qualities and we'll have to be careful. Tomorrow's doubts are for Maldini but we have Darmian available so he could play.

Abate has grown a lot, he could be in our squad, his only problem is that Milan usually don't play with wide players.

In midfield we will have many choices, Beckham has gotten over a problem to his shoulder which bothered him during training. In front we will have Inzaghi or Ronaldinho.

Ronaldinho is doing well, he's working with good rhythm which he showed against Lecce. He was very motivated when he came on and he wanted to give an important contribution to the team, which he wants to do now too.
Tomorrow I'll have the chance to meet Dunga. I'm happy because he used to be an opponent and perhaps we can reestablish a direct relationship instead of through the papers.'

'I don't think I will support Inter tonight, but I will have the pleasure of seeing a great match. This week we saw some very good games in the Champions League, let's hope Italian football can offer the same spectacle.'

'The statistics do not always reflect the reality of things. Milan's defence has managed to maintain solidity and reliability, through important performances of certain players, it's not a coincidence that we conceded just one goal in the last three games. Sometimes we didn't develop the play with enough sharpness. We are trying to recover Kaká to make us play faster. Lately his performances haven't been great, let's hope tomorrow he can give an important contribution against Torino. Ricky was out injured for two months and he didn't have the chance to train well. Considering his characteristics he was certainly penalised.

Milan's cycle will end when the property changes, but the squad will be renewed as happens every year, and I don't think it's over. Kaká is a very good observer because Gerrard could be useful to our group. It's not necessary to open a new cycle, we just need the right reinforcements to keep this team competitive.

Borriello can score 20 goals and I think he could score them next year, Marco has been out for a year, but Milan are counting on him for next year. I have the right motivation for next season.

The players don't ask me whether I'll stay, the situation is clear with them, I read Maldini's interview. Every day he asks me what I'll do and I ask him what he will do next year. There isn't any news and there won't be. There is clearness between me and the players, the objective is to finish the season well and get back into the Champions League next year. It's true that I'm taking English lessons, but that's because it's useful for travelling the world not just for coaching.'

'I think Seedorf is an important player who has highs and lows. Quality players aren't always able to express themselves, but Clarence has always been important at delicate times for Milan. Seedorf plays a lot not just for technical reasons, but also because of his personality.'

'The eve of the match against Real Madrid of twenty years ago is a memory that is still alive, it was an important eve. It's nice to be here twenty years later, it's an important eve and tomorrow we hope to do well. Each game has its history, as does every season.'

'For me the derby is the most strongly felt game, even though it depends on the situation of the teams in the standings, it's always an exciting match.'
MizNelson
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 17 2009, 11:42 PM) *
Schmunga... what does that mean? I like it!

Heh. Repeating a word with a "sch" prefix is pretty much a "yeah, whatever" expression, with some negative connotation. It's basically a disparaging of the subject. It's often used in the U.S. and I believe it's Yiddish, though I'm not 100% sure because I'm not Jewish. smile.gif

For instance, if you told me that Beckham would be starting tomorrow, I might say, "Becks, schmecks. He belongs on the bench." The simpler the better, because you'll sound like a dope if you use a name or word that's too complicated. smile.gif
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