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Ancelotti enters record books
Saturday 1 December, 2007

Carlo Ancelotti believes Milan should have had a penalty as their draw with Juventus sets a new club record.

“We struggled in the first half, but after the break Juve’s pressure dropped and we took control,” said the Rossoneri boss after tonight’s 0-0 at San Siro.

This result set a new club record, as Milan had never before gone nine consecutive home games without a victory.

“The statistics say we don’t score often enough at home. Today we had some good chances and have nothing to reproach ourselves for,” insisted Ancelotti.

“We could have been a little luckier and there was a penalty incident on Alberto Gilardino.”

Gila seemed to be tugged back by his shorts when stretching to get on the end of a dangerous Kaka cross, but the referee waved play on.

“Juventus are a very compact side and they kept a lot of pressure on Andrea Pirlo. Ronaldo? We have time to get him back into shape.”

Their form is causing concern ahead of the Club World Cup, which starts next week.

“We are doing better than last season before the Christmas break, even if there are some players – especially in midfield – who must play continually. I think we have time to prepare for Japan.”

Meanwhile, Juventus Coach Claudio Ranieri has his own theory on Milan’s shortcomings at the Stadio Giuseppe Meazza.

“I can see why they are having problems here, as the pitch is like soap. For a highly technical team like Milan, it is the worst kind of environment.”


::channel4::


Congratulations Carlo!!! smile.gif

There was no freaking penalty for God's sake, quit making excuses! Not even Juventus a couple of seasons back would have been given that...

That last thing by Ranieri is simply stupid! And that dumb **** just gave one more excuse for Galliani to use... but I'm sure he already had that up his sleeve...
Zed.D
DOES HE HAVE TO COME OUT WITH THIS PATHETIC NONSENSE EVERY DAMN TIME WE DON'T WIN?! THE REFEREE WAS FLAWLESS, EVERYONE SAW IT.
Portman
Sack this clown.
whoarethepatriots
Not a record to be particularly proud of
bigmacmtl
this also means we've never go so far in a season without a home victory!

remember we dont need any transfers!

the management and coach of a thousand excuses rolleyes.gif

i wonder what the players think of this? have they no pride?
fresh_prince7
Fun times, we'll be lucky to win the CWC..
misha
QUOTE (fresh_prince7 @ Dec 2 2007, 12:50 PM)
Fun times, we'll be lucky to win the CWC..
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I don't think it will be that hard to win it. The only real team to beat is Boca and they are hardly a good defensive side. In open game they have no chance, plus Milan very determined to win it (and then to hype that win until the end of the season).
pacang
well, since Milan will be playing at Yokohama, i don't think it would be hard for the players to score..

from what i saw last night, i can say i won't live long enough to see a better goalkeeper than Gigi Buffon..
dst
QUOTE (pacang @ Dec 2 2007, 02:46 PM)
well, since Milan will be playing at Yokohama, i don't think it would be hard for the players to score..
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unsure.gif Why is that?

QUOTE (pacang @ Dec 2 2007, 02:46 PM)
from what i saw last night, i can say i won't live long enough to see a better goalkeeper than Gigi Buffon..
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He didn't do anything extraordinary, every shot was aimed right at him... but you are right, you won't live long enough for that to happen! tongue.gif Neither will I...
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Dec 2 2007, 03:29 PM)
unsure.gif Why is that?

Playing away...
Warchant
does this mean that we should actually want our team NOT to win the CL and CWC? i think us winning the CL last year has actually hurt us in the long run.
dst
QUOTE (Warchant @ Dec 2 2007, 10:44 PM)
i think us winning the CL last year has actually hurt us in the long run.
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Yep... exactly what I had been thinking for the past 7 or so months! tongue.gif

But we got our revenge... my soul has reposed a lot...
jefri91
QUOTE (dst @ Dec 1 2007, 10:35 PM)
There was no freaking penalty for God's sake, quit making excuses!
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Im as angry as you about this but that was clearly a penalty.
I_Rossoneri
Where are all the carlo fans? laugh.gif

Yet another first for carlo the great, as if being the first Milan manager to concede 4 goals in a CL game and the first Milan manager to lose a three goal advantage in a CL final we now have this. Grazie carlo smile.gif
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Porty @ Dec 2 2007, 01:38 AM)
Sack this clown.
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You mean the fantastic carlo? You really must be joking, surely?!?!?! laugh.gif
misha
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Dec 3 2007, 12:50 AM)
Where are all the carlo fans? laugh.gif

Yet another first for carlo the great, as if being the first Milan manager to concede 4 goals in a CL game and the first Milan manager to lose a three goal advantage in a CL final we now have this. Grazie carlo smile.gif
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While I'm not Carlo's biggest fan, that's not fair to him. It's not black and white. And for me, there isn't much difference between the two extreme sides: Over adoring him or to bash him every time. Both wrong extremeness.

As much as your are digging records to support your claim, others can point his two CL wins and many other positive things and records he achieved with Milan, and the debate can last forever. The truth, like always, is somewhere in the middle.

I'm very greatful for everything Carlo has done for Milan (both as player and as coach), but I feel it's time to move on for him and for Milan, and we need someone new (with new ideas, someone who can motivate the players more, etc...)
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (mishale @ Dec 2 2007, 11:27 PM)
While I'm not Carlo's biggest fan, that's not fair to him. It's not black and white. And for me, there isn't much difference between the two extreme sides: Over adoring him or to bash him every time. Both wrong extremeness.

As much as your are digging records to support your claim, others can point his two CL wins and many other positive things and records he achieved with Milan, and the debate can last forever. The truth, like always, is somewhere in the middle.

I'm very greatful for everything Carlo has done for Milan (both as player and as coach), but I feel it's time to move on for him and for Milan, and we need someone new (with new ideas, someone who can motivate the players more, etc...)
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He has done well, but he also had one of the best squads available to him as well. I do appreciate what he has done for us but his time has been over for some time now.
dst
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Dec 3 2007, 01:34 AM)
He has done well, but he also had one of the best squads available to him as well. I do appreciate what he has done for us but his time has been over for some time now.
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The time for this squad has also been over... it's not only Carlo's fault that we're 13 points away from the top and we're only in December!
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (dst @ Dec 2 2007, 06:49 PM)
The time for this squad has also been over... it's not only Carlo's fault that we're 13 points away from the top and we're only in December!
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yes we are what we are. we are a mediocre midtable team right now and if we obtain our objective rolleyes.gif we will be a mediocre 4th place team rolleyes.gif X2
Bluesummers
Thats saddening for a coach of his level. What can you do though, when you dont buy players this is bound to happpen.
Rossoneri7
I have a feeling Carlo wont be with us next season sad.gif

I hope he sees his contract out till 2009 and maybe renew it once more ..

Time will tell.
Nova
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Dec 3 2007, 10:46 AM)
I have a feeling Carlo wont be with us next season sad.gif

I hope he sees his contract out till 2009 and maybe renew it once more ..

Time will tell.
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Your feeling is wrong smile.gif Berlusconi is no fool , unlike some others here. He wont fire ancelotti.

And I'm hoping the same as you king.gif devilsmiley.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (Nova @ Dec 3 2007, 08:49 PM)
Your feeling is wrong  smile.gif  Berlusconi is no fool , unlike some others here. He wont fire ancelotti.

And I'm hoping the same as you  king.gif  devilsmiley.gif
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Me also,...

Carlo has a hard time, but I still have faith in him.
mishie
Forza Carlo....Forza Milan!!!! devil.gif
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Dec 3 2007, 09:46 AM)
I have a feeling Carlo wont be with us next season sad.gif

I hope he sees his contract out till 2009 and maybe renew it once more ..

Time will tell.
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I think you're finally seeing the light smile.gif
bigmacmtl
QUOTE (Nova @ Dec 3 2007, 02:49 PM)
Your feeling is wrong  smile.gif  Berlusconi is no fool , unlike some others here. He wont fire ancelotti.

And I'm hoping the same as you  king.gif  devilsmiley.gif
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no , someone is not agreeing with you. why does it bother you ??

why dont you apply some of your own advice.
Nova
QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Dec 4 2007, 03:41 AM)
why dont you apply some of your own advice.
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What advice ? I am agreeing with berlusconi & galliani's way of running the team. You're disagreeing with Milan's top bosses and expecting some respect for your oppinion too .

well you're not gonna get it smile.gif at least not from me
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Dec 4 2007, 02:46 AM)
I think you're finally seeing the light smile.gif
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You think wrong, my friend ..

I have always seen the light .. I even saw it shine so bright last May in Athena wink.gif
Nova
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Dec 4 2007, 03:27 PM)
You think wrong, my friend ..

I have always seen the light .. I even saw it shine so bright last May in Athena wink.gif
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You were there ? ohmy.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Nova @ Dec 4 2007, 05:41 PM)
You were there ?  ohmy.gif
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Hell yeah !! it was a Cl final, and Milan were playing, where else would I be biggrin.gif
Nova
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Dec 4 2007, 03:54 PM)
Hell yeah !! it was a Cl final, and Milan were playing, where else would I be  biggrin.gif
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Uhm , staying home cause you had to work ?? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Portman
QUOTE (Nova @ Dec 4 2007, 11:39 AM)
You're disagreeing with Milan's top bosses and expecting some respect for your oppinion too .

well you're not gonna get it  smile.gif  at least not from me


Pathetic. Always pathetic.

Forums?! If you don't respect the people that have other opinions then you should do the same thing you did some months ago.

And to think this guy was a mod... well, that wasn't his fault.
LaPalma
QUOTE (Porty @ Dec 4 2007, 04:53 PM)
Pathetic. Always pathetic.

Forums?! If you don't respect the people that have other opinions then you should do the same thing you did some months ago.

And to think this guy was a mod... well, that wasn't his fault.
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It's sad....but I agree with Porty 100 % on this.

This a plattform to discuss various topics concerning Milan. To do this everyone needs to respect each other (except for racist comments, etc.)....it's the essence of such a forum.
Nova
QUOTE (Porty @ Dec 4 2007, 04:53 PM)
Pathetic. Always pathetic.

Forums?! If you don't respect the people that have other opinions then you should do the same thing you did some months ago.

And to think this guy was a mod... well, that wasn't his fault.
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awww poor porty is not being respected by one member and goes crying ...

Nova
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Dec 4 2007, 04:55 PM)
It's sad....but I agree with Porty 100 % on this.

This a plattform to discuss various topics concerning Milan. To do this everyone needs to respect each other (except for racist comments, etc.)....it's the essence of such a forum.
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Well im not respecting anything anti-Milan.

Nobody likes to lose , but when people start bashing & insulting the persons who actually made this Milan the team it is now ... Im sorry , I cannot respect that.
Portman
QUOTE (Nova @ Dec 4 2007, 03:58 PM)
awww poor porty is not being respected by one member and goes crying ...


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Whatever.
LaPalma
QUOTE (Nova @ Dec 4 2007, 05:00 PM)
Well im not respecting anything anti-Milan.

Nobody likes to lose , but when people start bashing & insulting the persons who actually made this Milan the team it is now ... Im sorry , I cannot respect that.
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What is wrong with you? You were once a person on this forum I really respected a lot. But this kinda ego trip you're doing now is, as Porty said, pathetic.
And btw no one on this forum is anti-milan. Some people (including me) just think that mistakes have been made and the team, and possibly the management as well, should think of making some changes. That might even include some new persons in the management (or a new coach). Others on this forum don't think so....that's OK. I don't agree with R7 on many topics for example but I respect his opinion and he respects mine (at least I think that wink.gif ). People here have different opinions....otherwise we could close this forum cause I'd be boring. It's not like some on this forum deny the holocaust...it's "just" football.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Nova @ Dec 4 2007, 06:45 PM)
Uhm , staying home cause you had to work ??  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Taking 4 days off of work doesn't hurt biggrin.gif Plus it was for a good cause ..


p.s. it was a real messed up trip my hotel cancelled my reservation and i had to crash with a couple scousers tongue.gif .. well it was a mess, except for that night wink.gif
Tennie
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Dec 4 2007, 12:20 PM)
And btw no one on this forum is anti-milan. Some people (including me) just think that mistakes have been made and the team, and possibly the management as well, should think of making some changes. That might even include some new persons in the management (or a new coach). Others on this forum don't think so....that's OK. I don't agree with R7 on many topics for example but I respect his opinion and he respects mine (at least I think that wink.gif ). People here have different opinions....otherwise we could close this forum cause I'd be boring. It's not like some on this forum deny the holocaust...it's "just" football.
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Well said, La Palma. king.gif

A whole box of cookies for you.
Nova
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Dec 4 2007, 05:20 PM)
What is wrong with you? You were once a person on this forum I really respected a lot. But this kinda ego trip you're doing now is, as Porty said, pathetic.
And btw no one on this forum is anti-milan. Some people (including me) just think that mistakes have been made and the team, and possibly the management as well, should think of making some changes. That might even include some new persons in the management (or a new coach). Others on this forum don't think so....that's OK. I don't agree with R7 on many topics for example but I respect his opinion and he respects mine (at least I think that wink.gif ). People here have different opinions....otherwise we could close this forum cause I'd be boring. It's not like some on this forum deny the holocaust...it's "just" football.
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Why are you all so itchy about me not respecting your views about sacking galliani or carlo ? For me to even think about Berlusconi selling his club or galliani leaving is blasphemy.

Im not into this "its a free world and i can say whatever I want" attitude on a forum dedicated to Milan. Why not letting inter fans join this forum and let them laugh at us when we're losing , lets see if "the gang" is gonna say "oh ok , its your oppinion , i respect that" .

Well im sorry to dissapoint you La_palma , but since I'm "alone" here , I too have the right say whatever I want. and I'm saying it again ; I'm not respecting anyones oppinion if its going to be bashing Milan or its management while we just f*cking won the CL.

And since it only one person , chill out .
Tennie
QUOTE (Nova @ Dec 4 2007, 12:37 PM)
Im not into this "its a free world and i can say whatever I want" attitude on a forum dedicated to Milan. Why not letting inter fans join this forum and let them laugh at us when we're losing , lets see if "the gang" is gonna say "oh ok ,  its your oppinion , i respect that" .

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That isn't what's happening and I think we're all smart enough to realize it.

I have no problem with some of the hypercritical comments posted by members here. Nor do I have problems with the very positive comments posted by members here. We're here for discussion and debate after all. If this forum were nothing more than 'rah rah Milan, everything is perfect' then it'd be a pretty dull place. It'd be just as boring if it were all 'ick ick, Milan sucks'.

Kurt and I (for example) disagree pretty drastically on the skill level and talent of some members of the English national team. I don't have a problem with that and I don't think Kurt does either. Misha and I disagree on Chelsea's qualities. I don't mind that either.

What I do have a problem with is attitudes that refuse to respect the opinions of others. And sadly I'm seeing more and more of it in recent weeks. It's saddening and honestly it doesn't need to happen.

I think the forum rules say something about respecting the opinions of others. If people can't or refuse to do that, then I don't think they should post here.
LaPalma
QUOTE (Tennie @ Dec 4 2007, 05:53 PM)
That isn't what's happening and I think we're all smart enough to realize it.

I have no problem with some of the hypercritical comments posted by members here. Nor do I have problems with the very positive comments posted by members here. We're here for discussion and debate after all. If this forum were nothing more than 'rah rah Milan, everything is perfect' then it'd be a pretty dull place. It'd be just as boring if it were all 'ick ick, Milan sucks'.

Kurt and I (for example) disagree pretty drastically on the skill level and talent of some members of the English national team. I don't have a problem with that and I don't think Kurt does either. Misha and I disagree on Chelsea's qualities. I don't mind that either.

What I do have a problem with is attitudes that refuse to respect the opinions of others. And sadly I'm seeing more and more of it in recent weeks. It's saddening and honestly it doesn't need to happen.

I think the forum rules say something about respecting the opinions of others. If people can't or refuse to do that, then I don't think they should post here.
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If this was petition I would immediately sign it Teenie king.gif
And btw. ... there are no Inter fans on this forum. We all support Milan and want only the best for our club. That's about it.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Tennie @ Dec 4 2007, 04:53 PM)
That isn't what's happening and I think we're all smart enough to realize it.

I have no problem with some of the hypercritical comments posted by members here. Nor do I have problems with the very positive comments posted by members here. We're here for discussion and debate after all. If this forum were nothing more than 'rah rah Milan, everything is perfect' then it'd be a pretty dull place. It'd be just as boring if it were all 'ick ick, Milan sucks'.

Kurt and I (for example) disagree pretty drastically on the skill level and talent of some members of the English national team. I don't have a problem with that and I don't think Kurt does either. Misha and I disagree on Chelsea's qualities. I don't mind that either.

What I do have a problem with is attitudes that refuse to respect the opinions of others. And sadly I'm seeing more and more of it in recent weeks. It's saddening and honestly it doesn't need to happen.

I think the forum rules say something about respecting the opinions of others. If people can't or refuse to do that, then I don't think they should post here.
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100% agreed.
Nova
QUOTE (Tennie @ Dec 4 2007, 05:53 PM)
That isn't what's happening and I think we're all smart enough to realize it.

I have no problem with some of the hypercritical comments posted by members here. Nor do I have problems with the very positive comments posted by members here. We're here for discussion and debate after all. If this forum were nothing more than 'rah rah Milan, everything is perfect' then it'd be a pretty dull place. It'd be just as boring if it were all 'ick ick, Milan sucks'.

Kurt and I (for example) disagree pretty drastically on the skill level and talent of some members of the English national team. I don't have a problem with that and I don't think Kurt does either. Misha and I disagree on Chelsea's qualities. I don't mind that either.

What I do have a problem with is attitudes that refuse to respect the opinions of others. And sadly I'm seeing more and more of it in recent weeks. It's saddening and honestly it doesn't need to happen.

I think the forum rules say something about respecting the opinions of others. If people can't or refuse to do that, then I don't think they should post here.
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I understand what you are saying. But im not talking about chelsea or the english nt.

Im only talking about Milan and why I should respect if someone is bashing , insulting & even making fun of a Milan legend.

I simply wont respect that , I'm sorry.

And I think its better to stop talking about this , cause this is only going to get worse and eventually this topic is gonna get closed.
I_Rossoneri
Looks like history is repeating itself smile.gif
Portman
QUOTE (Nova @ Dec 4 2007, 05:00 PM)
Im only talking about Milan and why I should respect if someone is bashing , insulting & even making fun of a Milan legend.

And I think its better to stop talking about this , cause this is only going to get worse and eventually this topic is gonna get closed.
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QUOTE (Nova)
"You're disagreeing with Milan's top bosses and expecting some respect for your oppinion too ."


First it was 'disagreeing', then it's 'bashing, insulting...". rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

You should... stop. Really. It's getting ridiculous.
Nova
QUOTE (Porty @ Dec 4 2007, 06:17 PM)
QUOTE (Nova)
"You're disagreeing with Milan's top bosses and expecting some respect for your oppinion too ."


First it was 'disagreeing', then it's 'bashing, insulting...". rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

You should... stop. Really. It's getting ridiculous.
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More ridiculous then to see you say forza milan after Athens ? After a year full of "predictions" ?

Don't think so wink.gif

p.s. and dont even start about me not posting for a few months biggrin.gif
Portman
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More ridiculous then to see you say forza milan after Athens ? After a year full of "predictions" ?

Don't think so  wink.gif
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What predictions? These ones: http://www.milanfan.com/forums/index.php?s...indpost&p=36160 ?

What I've predicted about getting owned in the League by Inter was right. The CL? I was wrong, and I hope I'm wrong too this year. cool.gif

But we weren't discussing that, were we? smile.gif
I_Rossoneri
But Porty, we're not interested in the Serie A rolleyes.gif

For a team like Milan that is an absolutely unbelievable comment and shame on galliani for saying it! rolleyes.gif
Tennie
Everyone....

BASTA

Enough. Please stop.

If you feel the need to be nasty to one another, please do so in the privacy of pms or emails or whatever. Just don't do it in message threads.

If you can't at least attempt to be nice in public, my fish doll is going to take away your toys and send you to your rooms. With no beer.
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