weeeow
Oct 11 2007, 05:52 PM
Milan goalkeeper Nelson Dida has been banned for two games for his actions during the Rossoneri’s Champions League tie against Celtic.
Dida reacted dramatically to being lightly struck by a fan, who had invaded the pitch to celebrate Celtic’s winner in the Rossoneri’s Champions League tie at Parkhead.
UEFA’s Disciplinary Committee have come down hard on the Brazilian shot-stopper for contravention of Article 5 of their code of behaviour.
This rule states: “member associations, clubs, as well as their players, officials and members, shall conduct themselves according to the principles of loyalty, integrity and sportsmanship.â€
Now Milan must hope that Zeljko Kalac can fill the gap left by Dida for the Diavolo’s two games against Ukrainians Shakhtar Donetsk.
Celtic have been fined around £25,000 for “poor organisation and the improper behaviour of one of their fans†and the Bhoys will be under supervision for two years.
http://www.channel4.com/footballitalia
Tennie
Oct 11 2007, 06:03 PM
I think it's an appropriate punishment.
dst
Oct 11 2007, 06:04 PM
It's fair...
I think we won't really miss him considering his performances so far this season... but he sure is better than Kalac!
nuh
Oct 11 2007, 06:04 PM
damn wish if it was more !
Ry4n
Oct 11 2007, 06:12 PM
hope Kalac can do good for us for those 2 matches
MizNelson
Oct 11 2007, 06:16 PM
I have no problem with the suspension, and I'm not high on Milan appealing it. What disgusts me is that Celtic will only have to pay half of a 35.760 euro fine for the security lapse and the fan entering the pitch, which started this whole thing in the first place.
Nova
Oct 11 2007, 06:36 PM
QUOTE (BMWTaylor @ Oct 11 2007, 06:16 PM)
I have no problem with the suspension, and I'm not high on Milan appealing it. What disgusts me is that Celtic will only have to pay half of a 35.760 euro fine for the security lapse and the fan entering the pitch, which started this whole thing in the first place.
I agree.
who knows what that fan could've been carrying.
Rossoneri7
Oct 11 2007, 07:32 PM
2 match ban isn't bad ... But problem is, Kalac will have to step up BIG time as the Ukrainians will fancy their chances knowing Dida isn't in goal for both the games.
At least Maldini will be back to organize his defense
weeeow
Oct 11 2007, 07:44 PM
kurtsimonw
Oct 11 2007, 09:24 PM
Neither punishment is harsh enough in my opinion.
Ry4n
Oct 11 2007, 09:57 PM
this is what Milan official website says
THE CULPRIT IS NOT DIDA
10/11/2007 7:58:00 PM
After Uefa's sentence, Milan officially announce they will appeal as the Milan lawyer considers the decision unbalanced. Leandro Cantamessa reflects on the reasons why Milan were absolved.
MILAN - Uefa's official website, uefa.com, gave the news as follows: AC Milan's goalkeeper Dida has been suspended for two UEFA club competition matches by UEFA's Control and Disciplinary Body following events at last week's UEFA Champions League Group D game between Celtic FC and Milan in Glasgow. The proceedings had been instigated on the basis of Article 5, paragraph 1 of the UEFA disciplinary regulations (Principles of conduct), under which "member associations, clubs, as well as their players, officials and members, shall conduct themselves according to the principles of loyalty, integrity and sportsmanship". Celtic, meanwhile, have been fined €35,760 (CHF60,000) after being found guilty of a lack of organisation and improper conduct by supporters at the match (Articles 6 and 11c of the UEFA disciplinary regulations). Half of this amount is deferred for a probational period of two years. This means that Celtic pay a €17,847 fine now, and if a similar offence is committed over the next two years, the other half will be added on for the new infringement. Appeals may be lodged within three days of the sending of the reasoned decision. Celtic won the game 2-1 on 3 October.
Soon after the news, came Milan's official note: A.C. Milan comunicate they will appeal to the Uefa Appeal Commission against the two-match ban inflicted on its player Nelson Dida.
At around 19.00 Ansa gave out the reaction of Milan's lawyer Leandro Cantamessa: "It's a completely eccessive ban so we will certainly appeal against it. We think it is a very unbalanced sentence - Cantamessa added - They made it seem like Dida was the main protagonist, but it was someone else, and from a logical point of view this isn't correct. Moreover, Milan were absolved because Dida told the doctor he was dizzy and had to be substituted. So he must have had something... I was worried - he concluded - that the team itself would be punished, which would have been horrendous and unjustified. At least that did not happen."
Zed.D
Oct 11 2007, 10:16 PM
Now that Milan are appealing I think the ban will be reduced to one match. UEFA knew Milan would appeal to any kind of punishment for Dida. they had to make it two match ban so after Milan's appeal they could still punish Dida with at least one match ban. that's what I think the situation is.
arivanjj
Oct 11 2007, 10:18 PM
it's more than fair, i'm not with Milan appealing, it's not helping the situation
Ry4n
Oct 11 2007, 10:56 PM
remeber the next match is away to Benfica can Kalac handle it ?
Tennie
Oct 11 2007, 11:07 PM
The Benfica away game is at the end of November?
Rossoneri7
Oct 11 2007, 11:59 PM
QUOTE (rhy_A4 @ Oct 12 2007, 12:56 AM)
remeber the next match is away to Benfica can Kalac handle it ?
Kalac is gonna play the Ukrainians home and away .. for Benfica, Dida will be back
Tennie
Oct 12 2007, 12:06 AM
*hop* And chances are that I'll be at Luz to see the Benfica-Milan game live.
Rossoneri7
Oct 12 2007, 12:21 AM
^^
Lucky u !! Hope u have a blast
p.s. don't take ur doll with u, it might jinx the team
Tennie
Oct 12 2007, 12:30 AM
Nonsense! My fish doll is good luck. Milan won the game I took him to. (It was last year's home fixture v. Messina. Maldini scored the winning goal.)
Then again, the poor doll may still be cowering in fear from Captain Jack.
Rossoneri7
Oct 12 2007, 12:57 AM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 12 2007, 02:30 AM)
Then again, the poor doll may still be cowering in fear from Captain Jack.

There you go
MizNelson
Oct 12 2007, 08:30 AM
And to think that a day earlier, UEFA let Juninho off the hook for diving against Rangers. God bless UEFA.
Rossoneri7
Oct 13 2007, 12:06 AM
QUOTE
Maldini Slams UEFA Decision On Dida
Legendary Milan defender Paolo Maldini has condemned UEFA’s choice to ban Dida for two games and cannot understand the decision.
The Brazilian shot-stopper received the punishment following his over-reaction to an altercation with a Celtic fan last week.
The supporter ran onto the pitch to celebrate Celtic’s last-gasp winner and appeared to lightly brush Dida’s neck. After first turning around to chase him, the 34-year-old then collapsed to the ground and was eventually stretchered off the field.
UEFA’s Disciplinary Committee found Dida guilty of breaching Article 5 of their code of behaviour, which states that “member associations, clubs, as well as their players, officials and members, shall conduct themselves according to the principles of loyalty, integrity and sportsmanship.â€
Maldini hit out at the verdict and referred back to an incident involving Milan over a decade ago. "I don't understand this difference in treatment,†said the 39-year-old.
“More than 10 years ago because of a small bottle thrown at a goalkeeper, they suspended our pitch for two matchdays.
“Dida made a mistake, but I repeat, I don't understand the disparity."
Goal.com
The eternal light of Milan has spoken ..
MizNelson
Oct 13 2007, 05:04 AM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 12 2007, 04:06 PM)
Goal.com
The eternal light of Milan has spoken ..

Headline in yesterday's
Telegraph: "Paola Maldini critical of Uefa Dida verdict." Nice.
Tennie
Oct 13 2007, 09:53 PM
This one isn't going away anytime soon.
Tra Dida ed il Milan è ormai rottura. Il portiere brasiliano non ha preso parte alla trasferta di Bilbao per l'amichevole disputata dai rossoneri e non per motivi tecnici. La società di Via Turati non ha infatti gradito la decisione di Dida di non presentarsi al dibattimento a Nyon, nel quale gli sono state inflitte le due giornate di squalifica per i fatti di Glasgow. Il Milan è comunque molto insoddisfatto del rendimento del portiere e sin dal prossimo gennaio provvederà a sostituirlo.
[There's a breach between Dida and Milan. The Brazilian goalkeeper didn't take part in the trip to Bilbao for the friendly and not for technical reasons. The Via Turati club didn't appreciate Dida's decision not to go to Nyon to represent himself at the UEFA hearing where he was disqualified for two games after the events in Glasgo. Milan is very unsatisfied with the behavior of the goalkeeper and will try to find a replacement in January.]
link
kurtsimonw
Oct 13 2007, 09:57 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 13 2007, 08:53 PM)
This one isn't going away anytime soon.
Tra Dida ed il Milan è ormai rottura. Il portiere brasiliano non ha preso parte alla trasferta di Bilbao per l'amichevole disputata dai rossoneri e non per motivi tecnici. La società di Via Turati non ha infatti gradito la decisione di Dida di non presentarsi al dibattimento a Nyon, nel quale gli sono state inflitte le due giornate di squalifica per i fatti di Glasgow. Il Milan è comunque molto insoddisfatto del rendimento del portiere e sin dal prossimo gennaio provvederà a sostituirlo.
[There's a breach between Dida and Milan. The Brazilian goalkeeper didn't take part in the trip to Bilbao for the friendly and not for technical reasons. The Via Turati club didn't appreciate Dida's decision not to go to Nyon to represent himself at the UEFA hearing where he was disqualified for two games after the events in Glasgo. Milan is very unsatisfied with the behavior of the goalkeeper and will try to find a replacement in January.]
linkI hope that's right, a new goalkeeper in January.. That'd be an awesome late Christmas present!
MizNelson
Oct 14 2007, 03:46 AM
QUOTE (Tennie)
This one isn't going away anytime soon.
Tra Dida ed il Milan è ormai rottura.
I read about it this morning. Tuttomercatoweb got this from Corriere dello Sport; neither are reliable sources for Milan news.
Aside from that, I didn't know the Mistress of the Fish Doll spoke Italian.
Tennie
Oct 14 2007, 03:54 AM
QUOTE (BMWTaylor @ Oct 13 2007, 10:46 PM)
Aside from that, I didn't know the Mistress of the Fish Doll spoke Italian.

She does! Not with absolute fluency but decently enough, though (apparently) with a noticeable Calabrese accent. Grandparents are from a village about 20km from Gattuso's hometown.
And yeah, Corriere isn't exactly reliable though Dida apparently didn't go to the hearing at Nyon. They got that part right, at least.
MizNelson
Oct 14 2007, 04:12 AM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 13 2007, 07:54 PM)
She does! Not with absolute fluency but decently enough, though (apparently) with a noticeable Calabrese accent. Grandparents are from a village about 20km from Gattuso's hometown.
And yeah, Corriere isn't exactly reliable though Dida apparently didn't go to the hearing at Nyon. They got that part right, at least.
I don't doubt that. However, every time I see the word Nyon, my brain automatically thinks they're talking about Lyon.

Heh, are your grandparents as feisty as Rino? If there's one thing I wish I could do, it's learn a language, which I haven't done since I stunk at French in high school. I am Italian myself and love to listen to it, but I also would very much like to speak it. Right now I'm relying mostly on Babelfish, which is like riding a bicycle with training wheels. Maybe I should pick up one of those Rosetta Stone programs.

(As I'm writing this, Cal just lost a heartbreaker to Oregon State due to a mistake by the quarterback. Damn.)
Tennie
Oct 14 2007, 04:26 AM
Hee. Gattuso actually reminds me, personality wise, of my grandfather in some ways.
And if you want the very best way to learn Italian, pack up and move to Italy for a year. You'll pick it up fast.

Languages are one thing I'm pretty good at and living where the language is spoken (and English is not, or not all that much) is the best way to learn.
(eek at Cal's loss. pointy-ball college football, right?)
MizNelson
Oct 14 2007, 04:53 AM
QUOTE (Tennie)
Hee. Gattuso actually reminds me, personality wise, of my grandfather in some ways.
And if you want the very best way to learn Italian, pack up and move to Italy for a year. You'll pick it up fast.

Languages are one thing I'm pretty good at and living where the language is spoken (and English is not, or not all that much) is the best way to learn.
He sounds like a real pistol.

Believe me, if I could afford it, there are plenty of places where I'd gladly spend a year, and Italy is one of them.
QUOTE (Tennie)
(eek at Cal's loss. pointy-ball college football, right?)
Yep. I'd figured you automatically knew what I meant, being a fellow Yank. And I did say "quarterback," so shame on you.
Jack Sparrow
Oct 14 2007, 05:56 AM
Isn't quarterback like a fullback who plays in a more advanced position? Or is he like a holding mid, when you're playing 3 defenders?
Tennie
Oct 14 2007, 11:44 AM
QUOTE (BMWTaylor @ Oct 13 2007, 11:53 PM)
Yep. I'd figured you automatically knew what I meant, being a fellow Yank. And I did say "quarterback," so shame on you.

Can I plead 'I only watch the Supberbowl for the commercials' ignorance?

Serionsly, I only watch three football games a year: the Superbowl and the Redskins-Cowboys fixtures. I watch the latter because I'd be totally out of the loop at work the next day if I didn't.
kurtsimonw
Oct 14 2007, 12:28 PM
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 14 2007, 10:44 AM)
Can I plead 'I only watch the Supberbowl for the commercials' ignorance?

Serionsly, I only watch three football games a year: the Superbowl and the Redskins-Cowboys fixtures. I watch the latter because I'd be totally out of the loop at work the next day if I didn't.
DC must be a very gloomy place to be after the Dallas games going on recent times. Then again DC must be a very gloomy place after any NFL game.
QUOTE
Isn't quarterback like a fullback who plays in a more advanced position? Or is he like a holding mid, when you're playing 3 defenders?
I'd say.. Pirlo is a great example of a quaterback in football. Controls the game, needs precision with his passing, vital to the team.
Rossoneri7
Oct 14 2007, 02:53 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 14 2007, 07:56 AM)
Isn't quarterback like a fullback who plays in a more advanced position? Or is he like a holding mid, when you're playing 3 defenders?

When the game restarts .. He is the guy who throws the ball
Jack Sparrow
Oct 14 2007, 06:00 PM
QUOTE
When the game restarts .. He is the guy who throws the ball
Wow...so Milan got a team full of quarterbacks. Except maybe Kaka...that boy is useless...
Rossoneri7
Oct 15 2007, 01:40 AM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 14 2007, 08:00 PM)
Wow...so Milan got a team full of quarterbacks. Except maybe Kaka...that boy is useless...

U forgot Gila huh
Tennie
Oct 22 2007, 12:39 PM
Dida appeal partially upheldUEFA's Appeals Body has partially upheld the appeal lodged by AC Milan against the two-match ban given to Milan goalkeeper Dida last week in the wake of events at the UEFA Champions League Group D game between Celtic FC and the Rossoneri in Glasgow on 3 October.
One-year probationary periodFollowing Monday's appeals hearing, Dida is suspended for two matches, but one of the matches will now be deferred for a probationary period of one year. Dida misses Milan's home UEFA Champions League match against FC Shakhtar Donetsk on Wednesday.
Principles of conductBrazilian international Dida was banned for two matches by the UEFA Control and Disciplinary Body after the instigation of proceedings on the basis of Article 5, paragraph 1 of the UEFA disciplinary regulations (Principles of conduct), under which "member associations, clubs, as well as their players, officials and members, shall conduct themselves according to the principles of loyalty, integrity and sportsmanship".
Wednesday's matchHowever, the Appeals Body has ruled that one match of the two-match ban will be deferred for a one-year period until 21 October 2008. This means that Dida will only serve the second match of his suspension if he commits a similar offence between now and then. The Appeals Body took note that Dida expressed his sincere regrets as regards his conduct.
link
Zed.D
Oct 22 2007, 01:23 PM
^^^
I knew it...
Warchant
Oct 22 2007, 04:57 PM
i have a feeling that he won't be here to see that entire period of time
Zed.D
Oct 23 2007, 09:41 AM
QUOTE (Warchant @ Oct 22 2007, 07:27 PM)
i have a feeling that he won't be here to see that entire period of time
He doesn't necessarily have to be a Milan player, I think. that punishment stands for him until he's playing for a UEFA registered club.
Warchant
Oct 23 2007, 03:30 PM
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 23 2007, 03:41 AM)
He doesn't necessarily have to be a Milan player, I think. that punishment stands for him until he's playing for a UEFA registered club.
if he gets let go, he'll probably go back to Brazil and finish out his career
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