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UEFA's investigation into last night's events at Celtic Park may result in a fine for Milan goalkeeper Nelson Dida as Celtic's chairman criticises him..

The Brazilian shot stopper had the worst possible night. At fault for both the Bhoys’ goals, he was then confronted by a fan who had invaded the pitch.

The supporter lightly tapped Dida on the cheek, but the towering custodian collapsed to the floor and was taken off on a stretcher.

Celtic chairman Brian Quinn has asked UEFA to investigate the Milan ‘keeper’s reaction to the attack and has condemned his play-acting.

“I’m making no excuses for the behaviour, and the fan behaved disgracefully, but the contact made with the goalkeeper was minimal,” he told BBC Radio Five Live.

“The antics of Dida have to be taken into account as well as he took a couple of steps after the fan and then obviously made the decision he should go to ground.

“Unless I missed something he was carried off on a stretcher for what seemed to be the lightest tap you can imagine.”

UEFA communications director William Gaillard has revealed that there could be action taken shortly.

“One of our prosecutors will look at the evidence and decide whether to open an investigation,” he told Sky Sports News.

“I don’t want to presume anything. There is a whole range of possible punishments, but of course there are precedents for the same kind of incidents.”

Dida was the centre of a controversial situation two seasons ago when a flare hit him during a clash with Inter in the Champions League.

On that occasion the Nerazzurri were forced to play four games behind closed doors, but this time there is more ambiguity.

It is possible that a fine could even be levelled at Dida after he chased the fan and then over-reacted to the contact.

Whatever the decision, a humiliating night of indignity at Celtic Park is likely to follow the under-fire ‘keeper for the foreseeable future.


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Serves him right!! mad.gif
Tennie
Agreed.

There's no excuse for the pitch invasion, but what Dida did was inexcusable. mad.gif
misha
They should fine him and other pathetic acts like this.
Zed.D
I totally agree. he doesn't deserve to be in this team anymore. it was a disgrace for the European champions.


kdman
Great! So now Dida is the villain rolleyes.gif I know he behaved badly, but it is funny how his behaviour is being made to overshadow the fact that he was attacked by a picth invader, especially by the british press.
Il Capitano
QUOTE (kdman @ Oct 4 2007, 01:04 PM)
Great! So now Dida is the villain rolleyes.gif  I know he behaved badly, but it is funny how his behaviour is being made to overshadow the fact that he was attacked by a picth invader, especially by the british press.
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His acting made the whole thing worse like what Rivaldo did in World cup 2002.

Dida doesn't deserve to wear our colors anymore.

1. Kalac
2. Fiori
3. Offredi
4. Dida
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (kdman @ Oct 4 2007, 01:04 PM)
Great! So now Dida is the villain rolleyes.gif  I know he behaved badly, but it is funny how his behaviour is being made to overshadow the fact that he was attacked by a picth invader, especially by the british press.
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The Italian press are laughing at him as well - Gazzetta: Didaster biggrin.gif Corriere: Did a taught a lesson- The Goalkeeper is lightly struck by a fan after the 2-1 loss at Celtic and gets himself substituted Tuttosport: Dida makes a fool of himself with howlers and fake injury

I'm afraid there was no excuse for what he did, had he fallen straight away it might have looked a little more plausible. But to run after the fan then realise what had happened and fall to the ground is rididculous and makes him look stupid and shames the club.

All this the day after we are told Don silvio refused the chance of signing Gigi Buffon... rolleyes.gif
Nova
He should be ashamed of himself. A fine would be right , maybe even a ban.

Its hard to keep faith in this team , but we must .

Forza Milan !
dst
QUOTE (kdman @ Oct 4 2007, 04:04 PM)
Great! So now Dida is the villain rolleyes.gif  I know he behaved badly, but it is funny how his behaviour is being made to overshadow the fact that he was attacked by a picth invader, especially by the british press.
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Those are two different incidents even if connected! That idiot who jumped on the field and "hit" Dida should be banned for life but Dida is a professional and shouldn't have done what he did! It's a real shame...

I'm not sure whether Celtic should be penalized too. That guy could have been carrying a gun or he could have inflicted real damage to one of the players... the fact that he didn't is irrelevant... A fine would be enough.
LaPalma
What Dida did was a disgrace. He lost my respect after that bad show. An attack? Come on...
Zed.D
O My God


Just check this out...
kurtsimonw
"Milan should just give up football and concentrate on acting, maybe make a couple of movies. I wish Dida well as he recovers from that traumatic attack by a drunken midget."

We've turned into a joke!
Panama Devil
What Dida demostrated with this kind of actions is exactly the type of behavior and example he is receiving from his entire team.

AC Milan is in a mayor crisis and the team is not accepting or facing it, on the contrary, they are running out of excuses.

I'm pretty sure not only the fans are sick and tired of it, I'm pretty sure most of our players are also upset.

I wrote it in another post ... I was really worried for the Celtic clash ... and look what happened. Teams are learning how to play against us ... they already have AC Milan's manual! We are trying the other teams to believe our same story (game plan) ..... c'mon! ...... we have to learn to tell new ones.

Let's play Aubameyang with Pippo in the front ... let's use Marek in the middle ... let's do something else!!!!!!!!
Zed.D
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 5 2007, 04:40 AM)
"Milan should just give up football and concentrate on acting, maybe make a couple of movies. I wish Dida well as he recovers from that traumatic attack by a drunken midget."

We've turned into a joke!
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This motherfucker has gone too far. mad.gif mad.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Oct 5 2007, 08:45 AM)
This motherfucker has gone too far.  mad.gif  mad.gif
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Yeah. It's funny how the Celtic fans get an ego after they beat us. Where were they last season!?
Jack Sparrow
I guess they've forgotten they got to make a visit to Milan. This will be painful...
Rossoneri7
Fine Dida ?! huh.gif

WHY ?! It was that fan that got on the football pitch in the first place !!!!


Where were the stewards ?! Celtic Park is the one who should be investigated for not contributing to the security of the stadium rolleyes.gif

Ohh but let us all go out and attack Dida .. Because he fell after the slightest touch rolleyes.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 5 2007, 05:29 PM)
Ohh but let us all go out and attack Dida .. Because he fell after the slightest touch rolleyes.gif
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Fine the fan, ban him for life.

Fine Dida, ban him for life.
dst
@R7: The fan has already been banned for life, that's what Celtic decided... UEFA are thinking of whether or not they are going to penalize Celtic.

Dida won't be (if) penalized for the fan's entrance!!! rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

Why do people keep connecting the two incidents!! It's quite clear... a fan enters the green; who's responsible? Celtic... a male (man wouldn't describe him in this case) pretends he is a goalkeeper and dives for whatever reason! Who's responsible? Dida... Simple isn't it?? rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif wink.gif
pacang
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I guess they've forgotten they got to make a visit to Milan. This will be painful...


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lucky that guy is already banned for life..
Zed.D
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 5 2007, 05:27 PM)
Yeah. It's funny how the Celtic fans get an ego after they beat us. Where were they last season!?
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Let them be happy for a while, because they will have to head for UEFA games after the group stages and we will have the last laugh as usual.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (dst @ Oct 5 2007, 11:02 PM)
@R7: The fan has already been banned for life, that's what Celtic decided... UEFA are thinking of whether or not they are going to penalize Celtic.

Dida won't be (if) penalized for the fan's entrance!!! rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif

Why do people keep connecting the two incidents!! It's quite clear... a fan enters the green; who's responsible? Celtic... a male (man wouldn't describe him in this case) pretends he is a goalkeeper and dives for whatever reason! Who's responsible? Dida... Simple isn't it?? rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif  wink.gif
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What is with all those rolling eyes ?!

And yes, that is what is supposed to happen! The fan gets banned and Celtic get penalized for not having secured the stadium! It is a UEFA event which should have certain regulations to prevent such an action.

What Dida did was wrong ! How many times do I have to say this ?! But considering the circumstances and us being on lookers, we can't really judge why he did what he did ! That is all I am saying.
kurtsimonw
I think blaming Celtic on this is totally unfair. There are 65,000 people in that stadium, how on earth can you control that amount of people, it IS impossible. You can't keep thousends of police inside of every game, that's just silly.
KillerMax
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 5 2007, 05:00 PM)
I think blaming Celtic on this is totally unfair. There are 65,000 people in that stadium, how on earth can you control that amount of people, it IS impossible. You can't keep thousends of police inside of every game, that's just silly.
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They are responsible. That's all there is to it.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Oct 6 2007, 04:37 AM)
They are responsible. That's all there is to it.
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I would fine them, certainly.

But Dida should get a ban also, I believe you get a 2/3 match ban for simulation? That was simulation, therefore a ban is in order.
dst
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 6 2007, 01:56 AM)
What Dida did was wrong ! How many times do I have to say this ?! But considering the circumstances and us being on lookers, we can't really judge why he did what he did ! That is all I am saying.
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Who cares about the 'why's'?? The fact is that he simulated an injury for whatever reasons and that act requires penalization... it's as simple as that really.
MizNelson
QUOTE (dst @ Oct 6 2007, 04:08 AM)
The fact is that he simulated an injury for whatever reasons and that act requires penalization... it's as simple as that really.
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Tell that to Materazzi, who did his fair share of feigning serious injury in three separate headbutting incidents over the past two years, and got away with two of them scott-free. The worst punishment he ever received was a small fine and a two-match suspension after the WC.
dst
QUOTE (BMWTaylor @ Oct 6 2007, 11:28 PM)
Tell that to Materazzi, who did his fair share of feigning serious injury in three separate headbutting incidents over the past two years, and got away with two of them scott-free. The worst punishment he ever received was a small fine and a two-match suspension after the WC.
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That doesn't make Dida innocent...
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (dst @ Oct 6 2007, 02:08 PM)
Who cares about the 'why's'?? The fact is that he simulated an injury for whatever reasons and that act requires penalization... it's as simple as that really.
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Who cares about the whys ?! I care. It's not about is he wrong for simulating or not, because it was wrong! But considering the pressure he was under and after conceding such a late goal, he was under so much pressure that you would have to be in his shoes to understand. He might have just fallen and out of the pressure and anxiety cried (or whatever, .. u get my point) ! You never know .. All we get is what is fed to us through the media.

I saw the fan, and he tapped Dida's neck .. Dida's reaction was that of a furious person, someone who needed to blow off some steam!! Had he not collected himself and stopped, who knows what he would have done to a guy that could barely reach his chest!

I am not giving excuses .. What I am saying is, he is a champion nonetheless, and I am giving him the benefit of the doubt, EVEN THOUGH he was wrong.
dst
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 7 2007, 03:15 AM)
Who cares about the whys ?! I care. It's not about is he wrong for simulating or not, because it was wrong! But considering the pressure he was under and after conceding such a late goal, he was under so much pressure that you would have to be in his shoes to understand. He might have just fallen and out of the pressure and anxiety cried (or whatever, .. u get my point) ! You never know .. All we get is what is fed to us through the media.
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So what?? You really don't make any sense... you say he was wrong... well in my view, if you do something wrong then you have to be penalized! If you can't handle the pressure, quit!

The guy who jumped on the field just wanted to thank Dida, why should we punish him then?? rolleyes.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (dst @ Oct 7 2007, 03:44 AM)
So what?? You really don't make any sense... you say he was wrong... well in my view, if you do something wrong then you have to be penalized! If you can't handle the pressure, quit!

The guy who jumped on the field just wanted to thank Dida, why should we punish him then?? rolleyes.gif
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He was wrong! Yes, but who am I to go overboard and say he humiliated the club and tata-ti tata-ta .. When it was one incident ! It's not like he did an Eric Cantona !

The guy who jumped on the field was the one who initiated all this. Had he not jumped on the field, we wouldn't even be talking about this. 'we' cant punish him, the board should deal with this (which i am sure they did).

If he can't handle the pressure?! He was handling the pressure and I am sure was under a lot of pressure!! But that guy who jumped on the pitch and intimidated him .. that was just too much, based on his reaction that is.

p.s. As I told u, I am not defending Dida, just giving him the benefit of the doubt.
dst
It's God's fault really... he's the one who created man... if he hadn't, none of this would have happened!
Rossoneri7
Actually it's Eve's fault !! Had she not eaten that apple we all would be watching Milan play in the heavens and we would have won the CL and Scudetto every year rolleyes.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (BMWTaylor @ Oct 6 2007, 08:28 PM)
Tell that to Materazzi, who did his fair share of feigning serious injury in three separate headbutting incidents over the past two years, and got away with two of them scott-free. The worst punishment he ever received was a small fine and a two-match suspension after the WC.
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At the World Cup he didn't fake injury. He was headbutted in the chest! It's not like he got stretchered off like a pansy either, he carried on.

And hey, even Kaka' came out so say what Dida did was wrong, so you side with Dida or Kaka'. I know where I side on this one, and it's not with our female keeper.
Jack Sparrow
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I know where I side on this one, and it's not with our female keeper.


Not fair..you haven't even met BMWTaylor. I'm eagerly waiting to buy her paintings, 10 years from now, they'll be so expensive and I'll be so rich..king.gif
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 7 2007, 07:11 AM)
Not fair..you haven't even met BMWTaylor. I'm eagerly waiting to buy her paintings, 10 years from now, they'll be so expensive and I'll be so rich..king.gif
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It has nothing to do with BMW. Dida is our female keeper!

But her (BMWs) stuff is fantastic!
MizNelson
I don't want to fight anymore.

We have our opinions on the matter and I'm not going to change your mind and vice versa, so it's silly of me to regularly engage in a ping-pong battle of words, because it's not worth it and you guys don't deserve it, so I'm ending this here.
KillerMax
QUOTE (BMWTaylor @ Oct 7 2007, 02:41 AM)
I don't want to fight anymore.

We have our opinions on the matter and I'm not going to change your mind and vice versa, so it's silly of me to regularly engage in a ping-pong battle of words, because it's not worth it and you guys don't deserve it, so I'm ending this here.
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It was going good until...
Jack Sparrow
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But her (BMWs) stuff is fantastic!


Me thinks you are hitting on her esp with the English penchant for puns. And the whole Dida bashing was just to get her attention. Quite the player ur kurt.

BMW...what about us???!!! cry.gif

*sigh* she doesn't sweet talk much this one, where's 10ie?

Oh and ...

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I don't want to fight anymore.


Sorry, you know the rules...if this is your first night in fight club...err Milanfan you gotta fight.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 7 2007, 12:21 PM)
Sorry, you know the rules...if this is your first night in fight club...err Milanfan you gotta fight.
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He has a point u know ...
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 7 2007, 09:21 AM)
Me thinks you are hitting on her esp with the English penchant for puns. And the whole Dida bashing was just to get her attention. Quite the player ur kurt.


Oh and ...
Sorry, you know the rules...if this is your first night in fight club...err Milanfan you gotta fight.
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Yes, that was exactly my plan, I'm a genius.. rolleyes.gif

Jack, what is the first rule of fight club? You do NOT talk about fight club. And what did you just go do!?
Jack Sparrow
I think you are allowed to talk about fight club in fight club...innocent.gif

Any idea where Tyler Durden went off to...even milan seem to be waiting for v2...
Tennie
Milan and Dida face UEFA inquest

UEFA has opened disciplinary proceedings against AC Milan and their goalkeeper Dida in the wake of events at last week's UEFA Champions League Group D match against Celtic FC in Glasgow.

Disciplinary regulations
The proceedings have been instigated on the basis of Article 5 paragraph 1 of the disciplinary regulations (Principles of conduct), under which "member associations, clubs, as well as their players, officials and members, shall conduct themselves according to the principles of loyalty, integrity and sportsmanship". UEFA's Control and Disciplinary Body will hear the case on 11 October.

Thursday hearing
On Friday, UEFA announced that it had opened disciplinary proceedings against Celtic on charges of lack of organisation and improper conduct of supporters at the same match (Articles 6 and 11c of the UEFA disciplinary regulations). This case will also be heard by UEFA on 11 October.

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My personal guess is that it'll be a fine + match ban.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Tennie @ Oct 8 2007, 06:16 PM)
My personal guess is that it'll be a fine + match ban.
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Well I'd say a fine ... But a match ban would be too harsh IMO.
I_Rossoneri
I seriously cannot believe that Milan should be punished for this! I can understand them fining and banning Dida, but the club did not order Dida to do what he did(I hope unsure.gif ).
Banning Dida could be a blessing in disguise anyway wink.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 9 2007, 01:30 AM)
Banning Dida could be a blessing in disguise anyway wink.gif
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Yeah .. Then we can play Kalac or Fiori rolleyes.gif

It's not like Buffon is warming our bench right now.
Rossoneri7
Buffon has spoken out against any ban on Dida. He claims that he is not aware of the procedures of UEFA or FIFA, not does he know what the ultimate punishment might be. He says that what happened happened in mere minutes of caos and doesn't see why Dida should be punished since he already feels bad about his action.


On other news .. Galliani spoke to La 7 channel; where he spoke about last summer's mercato and Buffon's transfer to Milan .. He said that Milan asked for Buffon, but Juve's Gigi Cobli closed the door and stated that he was nontransferable. He also talked about Alex Del Piero and said, had we wanted Alex we would have gotten him in his prime when he was at Badova (spell), but Juve paid the high price tag ahead of Milan at the time. He then moved on to talk about Silvio Berusconi's reign at Milan; where he witnessed Milan claim 25 trophies, 16 2nd place finish, a feat that is unprecedented in the span of 20 yrs king.gif



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MizNelson
No doubt UEFA will let Celtic off the hook, because they're conveniently ignoring the fact that the whole thing started only after a fan entered the pitch. Just you wait.
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (BMWTaylor @ Oct 10 2007, 07:18 AM)
No doubt UEFA will let Celtic off the hook, because they're conveniently ignoring the fact that the whole thing started only after a fan entered the pitch. Just you wait.
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I think they will get a fine of some sorts. Whatever Roma/United got last year. Maybe even be forced to play their other home group games behind closed doors.
MizNelson
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 10 2007, 12:20 PM)
I think they will get a fine of some sorts. Whatever Roma/United got last year. Maybe even be forced to play their other home group games behind closed doors.
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What's definite is that the result won't be reversed, but I can live with that.

QUOTE (Channel 4)
Dida’s D-day arrives
Thursday 11 October, 2007
Milan goalkeeper Nelson Dida will discover if he is to be punished by UEFA for his actions in Glasgow when a statement is issued this afternoon.

The Brazilian shot-stopper received widespread criticism for his theatrical reaction to a blow struck by a fan, who had invaded the pitch following the Rossoneri’s Champions League defeat at Parkhead.

UEFA have been watching video evidence to establish whether or not Dida is in violation of Article 5 of their code of behaviour.

This rule states: “member associations, clubs, as well as their players, officials and members, shall conduct themselves according to the principles of loyalty, integrity and sportsmanship.”

It is possible that Dida could be given a suspended sentence, but he may be handed a costly ban, which Milan can ill afford.

UEFA is taking a hard-line approach on sportsmanship and issued Lithuanian Saulius Mikoliunas a two-game ban for diving for a penalty against Scotland in September’s Euro 2008 qualifier.

Milan as a club will not face any action as their staff simply followed protocol by removing a player with a suspected head injury from the pitch.

UEFA's decision is expected to arrive at around 4pm.

Jesus, the media coverage of this whole thing is ridiculous. I think the American Idol finale received less publicity. rolleyes.gif
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