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kurtsimonw
So now I'm being accused of not watching games, I've missed 1 this season, and seen extended highlights of it, so I do know what I'm seeing. rolleyes.gif

It's the same with you and Dida though, he's already cost us goals thus far, he puts so much pressure on the outfield players to produce it's bordering on unfair. And people are also on his back, but you seem to defend him through all these mistakes.

Gila, in my opinion, was bought as a partenr for Sheva, a number 2 striker. Sheva left and we haven't really attempted to replace him (Oli? Please.) so now Gila is a number 2 guy playing as a top forward, that's not what he was bought for!


P.S. The reason I use stats is because they are fact. An arguement will NEVER be settled on how you think they play, because that is an opinion, and opinions will sometimes not agree.

Anyways, I give up on this, opinions are opinions. This will never be settled.
Rossoneri7
No I am not accusing u, u just said that u don't get to watch the games, so I assumed biggrin.gif And highlights, well I don't think highlights show you what a full 90mins could show u.

Highlights show u the best of chances that Gila had, but in the 90mins you would see 20 chances missed by Gila and 1 chance almost on target.

USE stats, I am not saying otherwise ... What I am saying is that Gila isn't Milan quality. There is nothing wrong with that IMO, so Milan made a mistake on him, better luck next time.

Gila was bought as a 2striker huh.gif Gila played as a lone striker at Parma .. That is how he thrived at Parma. At Milan, even with the help of Kaka' (which IMO any striker would thrive under) he just didn't meet expectations. Sure he scored this much and that much, but bottom line is he didn't reach expectations.

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Sure Dida isn't the same Dida, sure he has been making these silly mistakes, but when the going gets tough and the crucial games come in to play ... Dida never fails Milan


I did say he wasn't the same, but like the rest of the Milan squad ... He does show up when the going gets tough king.gif
KillerMax
I love how this post:
QUOTE (mishie @ Sep 23 2007, 04:47 PM)
perhaps chaps this discussion should be in the Gila thread, and we can get back to the Palermo game..cheers wink.gif
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And this post:
QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 23 2007, 07:13 PM)
Guys? This is the Palermo match thread, not the 'does gila have value' thread. Can we please go out for a drink and talk about the game? My fish doll will buy the first round. smile.gif
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were completely ignored. If you want to discuss Gila, do it in its appropriate place. Not in this thread.


Back on topic, I have a feeling Ancelotti is gonna want to play Gila and Pippo together, which I think is even worst than playing with three defensive mids. Gourcuff+Seedorf+Kaka must be at least considered by Ancelotti. Why wouldn't he try it? It's not like we could do worse.
Rossoneri7
Fire Carlo Ancelotti get us that Persian for coach biggrin.gif
Jack Sparrow
^^^^
Yessss....Ali Daei to Milan!!!!!
MizNelson
I just realized, we're really going to have our hands full in only a couple months, what with Coppa Italia play and the FIFA Club World Cup coming up, in addition to our Serie A and CL play. We may not have anything left in the tank by the winter break, so we sure as hell had better win on Wednesday and start picking up those points.
amancik
QUOTE (jefri91 @ Sep 24 2007, 01:03 AM)
Another draw cuz we're not good enough - _-
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Correction!
We're not focused enough
and Milan never will be unless they face class A teams
Rossoneri7
I think we will win this tie. If Kaka', Seedorf, and Pirlo all give at least a 7/10 .. Then Milan will win comfortably king.gif
Tennie
I just hope the defense is on their A game. The Miccoli-Amauri partnership can be scarily good if they combine well.
Nova
Even if sheva didnt score , he could at least help the team with passes and creative plays. Gilardino cant do nothing right. And It's painfull as a milanista to see him screw up every single time.
bigmacmtl
the main excuse from carlo that we have had trouble winning in serie a has been the lack of space because teams sit back and defened. i'm sure palermo will attack and go for the win so they'll be no excuse if we dont play well.
misha
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C4 preview

Serie A Week 5 - 26/9/07 (19.30 UK) 

Stadio Barbera

Milan will want to get their Scudetto bid back on track as they face Palermo at the traditionally hostile Stadio Renzo Barbera in Week 5. On Saturday the Rossoneri were stopped in their own home by Parma and the Sicilians will be hoping to cause them even more problems.

The European champions have always struggled to run out of the Barbera with all three points and have won only one of their last three games played in Sicily. It ended 0-0 last term.

Milan have had a poor start to the season after collecting only six points in four games. On the other hand, Palermo are in good shape, but need to raise their level even further if they want to live up to their European ambition.

On Wednesday night, Carlo Ancelotti may decide to line up his best XI after resting several key men against Parma. Former Crociati defender Daniele Bonera will be replaced by Kakha Kaladze. Cristian Brocchi will return to the bench, with Gennaro Gattuso back in the midfield.

Ancelotti will also have to decide whether to play Alberto Gilardino or Filippo Inzaghi up front as Ronaldo is still out injured. Both strikers are not at their best. Gila hasn’t yet found the net this season, while Inzaghi has been impressing only in the Champions League.

Palermo boss Stefano Colantuono is preparing his men for one of the most important clashes of the season. The former Atalanta Coach was satisfied with Sunday’s victory over Cagliari, although Palermo didn’t impress.

Sant’Elia match winner Cristian Zaccardo should be used on the left as Marco Pisano and Ciro Capuano are injured. Mark Bresciano looks set to take the right-wing role, while Fabio Caserta should be preferred to Bosko Jankovic on the opposite flank. The attacking duo will be formed by Fabrizio Miccoli and Amauri, with Edison Cavani eagerly awaiting his moment on the bench.

Keep an eye on: Fabrizio Miccoli (Palermo) – The Rossoneri are one of Miccoli’s favourite rivals as he regularly finds the net against them. This will be another occasion to throw water over the Devil…

Last season: Palermo 0-0 Milan

Form guide: Palermo (- L W D W) Milan (- W D D D)

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Palermo (probable): Fontana; Diana, Rinaudo, Barzagli, Zaccardo; Bresciano, Migliaccio, Simplicio, Caserta; Amauri, Miccoli

Milan (probable): Dida; Oddo, Nesta, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Kaka, Seedorf; F Inzaghi
Fillipo Simone
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Fontana Praises Prestigious Milan

Palermo goalkeeper Alberto Fontana has offered a glowing tribute of Palermo’s next opponents Milan and disagrees with those who believe that Milan only concentrate on the Champions League.

The European champions travel to Sicily on Wednesday evening having drawn three consecutive games in Serie A. Carlo Ancelotti has a history of resting and rotating first-team players before European ties and this has led to accusations that the Rossoneri are not interested in trying to win the Scudetto. 

Before Milan’s recent 2-1 Champions League victory over Benfica, Ancelotti rested Kaka, Andrea Pirlo, Massimo Oddo and Filippo Inzaghi in the preceding league match against Siena. However Fontana does not go along with this theory. 

"I disagree that they are not interested in the league,” said Fontana. “We will be playing against a strong and prestigious team. They will come to the Stadio Barbera to win, and they more than have the potential to do so.” 

The 40-year-old Fontana is now in his 20th year as a professional. The shot-stopper began his career at hometown club Cesena in 1987 and made over 100 appearances before moving on to the likes of Bari, Atalanta, Napoli, Inter and Chievo. In 2006 he moved to the Stadio Renzo Barbera. 

Words from an ex-interista,..
Tennie
Callups for the game from the club website.

PALERMO-MILAN: I CONVOCATI ROSSONERI
25/09/2007
MILANELLO - Sono 21 i convocati rossoneri per domani:
PORTIERI: Dida, Kalac, Fiori;
DIFENSORI: Bonera, Cafu, Favalli, Jankulovski, Kaladze, Nesta, Oddo, Simic;
CENTROCAMPISTI: Ambrosini, Brocchi, Emerson, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Kakà, Pirlo, Seedorf;
ATTACCANTI: Gilardino, Inzaghi.
misha
PORTIERI: Dida, Kalac, Fiori;
DIFENSORI: Bonera, Cafu, Favalli, Jankulovski, Kaladze, Nesta, Oddo, Simic;
CENTROCAMPISTI: Ambrosini, Brocchi, Emerson, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Kakà, Pirlo, Seedorf;
ATTACCANTI: Gilardino, Inzaghi.

I'll go with:
---Oddo---Nesta----Bonera-----Janku
------------------Pirlo
--------Rino---------------Ambro
--------Yoann----------Kaka
----------------Pippo

Carlo will go with:
---Oddo---Nesta----Kaladze-----Janku
------------------Pirlo
--------Rino---------------Ambro
--------Seedorf----------Kaka
----------------Pippo
misha
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Carletto orders three points

Milan Coach Carlo Ancelotti has issued a rallying cry to his faltering Rossoneri side ahead of tomorrow’s trip to Palermo. “Time to get back to winning.”

The European champions shone in the first game of their Champions League defence against Benfica, but have looked far less convincing in the League.

While Week 2’s draw with Fiorentina was seen as acceptable, sharing the points with Siena and Parma has caused murmerings of discontent at the San Siro.

A Wednedsay evening clash at Palermo’s Stadio Renzo Barbera certainly isn’t for the faint-hearted, but Ancelotti thinks that will play in his side’s favour.

“This is a great chance to start winning again,” he told La Gazzetta dello Sport. “It will be a tough game, but we want to climb the table.

“There are no fatigue problems, we are raring to get started. You will see a very different Milan side as the players are aware of where they need to make improvements.

With Ronaldo injured and Alberto Giardino struggling for form and fitness, the goal scoring burden may fall to Pippo Inzaghi.

“I don’t care who scores the goals whether it’s strikers or defenders as long as we find the net. In my opinion, our problems aren’t up front. We need to control the game better and create more chances.

“Alberto should relax because the goals will come whereas Inzaghi starts prolifically and then eases off.

"Gila deserves our faith as he was our top scorer last season.”

Inzaghi is set to start as a lone striker against Palermo with Gilardino starting on the bench.
KillerMax
I'd go with:

-----------------Dida-------------------------
--Oddo----Nesta--Bonera----Jankulovski--
-----------------Pirlo--------------------------
-----Gattuso------------Gourcuff------------
----------------Seedorf-----------------------
------------------------Kaka------------------
---------------Pippo---------------------------

There could be some great link up between Seedorf, Gourcuff and Kaka. But I wouldn't mind going with Carletto's formation since this is a pretty difficult away game and Ambro can prove decisive.
Tennie
Oh dear?

[Milan keeper Dida could skip the game with Palermo. He's hurt his shoulder - not the one already operated on - and the Milan medical staff has been busy. If Dida doesn't play, Kalac will be in goal for Milan.]

Il portiere del Milan, Nelson Dida, potrebbe saltare la gara di questa sera (ore 20.30) con il Palermo allo stadio "Renzo Barbera".
L’estremo difensore brasiliano soffre di un risentimento alla spalla (non quella già operata) che ha messo i sanitari del Milan al lavoro. In preallarme, quindi, Zeljco Kalac.

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han2503
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Sep 25 2007, 03:37 PM)
I'd go with:

-----------------Dida-------------------------
--Oddo----Nesta--Bonera----Jankulovski--
-----------------Pirlo--------------------------
-----Gattuso------------Gourcuff------------
----------------Seedorf-----------------------
------------------------Kaka------------------
---------------Pippo---------------------------

There could be some great link up between Seedorf, Gourcuff and Kaka. But I wouldn't mind going with Carletto's formation since this is a pretty difficult away game and Ambro can prove decisive.
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I'd go with this one too, but I'm sure Carlo will play Ambro isntead of Yoann
KillerMax
I'm indifferent about this. biggrin.gif These days, Dida is as reliable as the next guy... Sure... Let Kalac be the next guy, same difference.
han2503
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Sep 26 2007, 01:52 PM)
I'm indifferent about this. biggrin.gif These days, Dida is as reliable as the next guy... Sure... Let Kalac be the next guy, same difference.
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I wuld much rather have Fiori play instead of Kalac. Much more reliable and steady, I would even say that he's steadier than Dida these days rolleyes.gif
KillerMax
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 26 2007, 07:54 AM)
I wuld much rather have Fiori play instead of Kalac. Much more reliable and steady, I would even say that he's steadier than Dida these days  rolleyes.gif
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How could I forget? ohmy.gif You are damn right he is. He is a very good keeper. I don't know why he doesn't get a chance. It's like a mystery or something.
Jack Sparrow
He was busy studying for his law degree...needs to attend classes and all.
MizNelson
QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 26 2007, 06:49 AM)
[Milan keeper Dida could skip the game with Palermo. He's hurt his shoulder - not the one already operated on - and  the Milan medical staff has been busy. If Dida doesn't play, Kalac will be in goal for Milan.]
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Heck, I never knew he had any of his shoulders operated on.
Jack Sparrow
So what are the odds we'll be too 'tired' after the previous match and don't win again? rolleyes.gif
Tennie
PALERMO-MILAN: FORMAZIONI UFFICIALI
26/09/2007
PALERMO (4-3-1-2): Fontana; Diana, Barzagli, Zaccardo, Cassani; Migliaccio, Simplicio, Caserta; Bresciano; Miccoli, Amauri.
MILAN (4-3-2-1): Kalac; Oddo, Nesta, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Pirlo, Emerson; Kakà, Seedorf; Gilardino

Let's hope Kaladze and Kalac have good days. The Palermo attack this year is scary.
KillerMax
No Ambro? He has been one of the better players for us recently. Let's see what Emerson has to offer.
KillerMax
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 26 2007, 11:41 AM)
So what are the odds we'll be too 'tired' after the previous match and don't win again? rolleyes.gif
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I'm gonna say pretty good.
Jack Sparrow
Our wingbacks...*sigh* we're running them to death...poor Oddo...
han2503
Can't belive he didn't give the chance for yoann to play.

I hope he atleast takes either Kaka or Seedorf off BEFORE the 80 minute mark and replaces either one of them with Yoann
MizNelson
QUOTE (J. Sparrow)
So what are the odds we'll be too 'tired' after the previous match and don't win again?

Don't be surprised if Bresciano wipes the floor with us tonight.
Minami
I'm really looking forward for this match to start!!

Predict: 1:0 for us

We must think positive tongue.gif king.gif
Jack Sparrow
Well we all seem to be very positive...somebody pm me tomorrow if I ought to look at the match thread or not. Need to turn in early...and I don't waste my time at work looking through pages of finger pointing.

dst trying giving your armchair-coach contest one more go...maybe it'll work wink.gif
fresh_prince7
QUOTE (BMWTaylor @ Sep 27 2007, 02:05 AM)
QUOTE (J. Sparrow)
So what are the odds we'll be too 'tired' after the previous match and don't win again?

Don't be surprised if Bresciano wipes the floor with us tonight.
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The Australian Threat!

They'll win for my b/day.. touch wood.

Hopefully yohan gets at least half an hour of game time, unbelievable how he isn't getting an opportunity.
misha
Klac, Kala and Gila in the same line up. It will be even harder than I thought.
han2503
Just about to start

Forza Milan!!! (no matter what result we get, and everyone remember that when this game ends wink.gif )
mishie
gggoooooollllllllll
han2503
GOOOAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL SEEDORFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!1
misha
Seedorf!!!! 1:0 smile.gif
Tennie
Rar. Turtle power!

Goal Seedorf!
han2503
Let's hope we build on this and not let it slip up.

Kaka, Seedorf and Gila worked perfectly there
elcordobez
stream newhere?
Minami
Great!!!!!

What a fast goal!!! king.gif king.gif
han2503
Gila close
mishie
seems carlo had had words...we're playing well!
milanista1899
QUOTE (elcordobez @ Sep 26 2007, 07:42 PM)
stream newhere?
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tvants://list.tvants.com/tvants/?k=26cb88a5c91c6785e63bacf0a607f44b

From arivanjj in live football section, live 1 - a bit slow though.
misha
kaka with a great run but couldn't beat the keeper
mishie
kaka at his best
elcordobez
QUOTE (milanista1899 @ Sep 27 2007, 05:52 AM)
tvants://list.tvants.com/tvants/?k=26cb88a5c91c6785e63bacf0a607f44b

From arivanjj in live football section, live 1 - a bit slow though.
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excellent thank you
misha
Seedorf hit the post!!!!!
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