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misha
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The Rossoneri's midfielder admitted to a Brazilian daily newspaper that he might leave the Italian club in the future.

Ricardo Kaka made some unexpected comments to a Brazilian daily newspaper, 'Folha on line', as he declared that he is unsure about his future stay at Milan.

"For this year I will still continue with Milan, but later on I don't know," he admitted.

"I'm happy that my family feels well in Italy, but a lot will depend from Milan. I don't want to stay in a place where neither the club nor I are satisfied," Kaka explained.

"My rapport with Milan is clear: until Berlusconi wants me, I will remain with the Rossoneri. As soon as the President will not consider me non transferable anymore, I will go elsewhere."

Kaka also spoke about the probable Golden Ball win.

"I'm calm because to win the Golden Ball I do everything I can: that is I go on the pitch, play, train and do my job."

Glenn Debattista
HasanHasanly
And why exactly would Silvio sell one of his stars? rolleyes.gif
Jack Sparrow
Hee hee.....Kaka wants the money. Silvio is a tough negotiator!!
han2503
QUOTE (HasanHasanly @ Sep 10 2007, 03:11 PM)
And why exactly would Silvio sell one of his stars? rolleyes.gif
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There was a time when Silvio used to let go of stars because they weren't fit anymore for his team.
dst
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 10 2007, 09:24 PM)
There was a time when Silvio used to let go of stars because they weren't fit anymore for his team.
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Now he's buying them!

*gets his gun ready for arivanjj*
KillerMax
I'm sick of this guy already... Make up your mind or just shut the f@ck up... Stop playing with our rossoneri hearts...
Warchant
so basically he's saying:

i'm still happy here
milan are happy with me here

when either of those cease to exist, he's going somewhere else...isn't that how all players work?

it seems to be like he's very sure of his future, unlike the article suggests.
kurtsimonw
I agree with Warchant.

He is happy to stay, Milan are happy for him to stay, there's no problem at all. I don't think we'll sell him until he's aging a little, somewhat like Sheva, he'll be playing his best years in Milan, no question.
Zed.D
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Sep 10 2007, 11:48 PM)
I'm sick of this guy already... Make up your mind or just shut the f@ck up... Stop playing with our rossoneri hearts...
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Are you starting again?! rolleyes.gif

This is exactly a copy-paste of an article published about one or two months ago. how can you be so touchy...? don't let every damn lie about Kaka fire you up like this.
han2503
QUOTE (Warchant @ Sep 10 2007, 08:19 PM)
so basically he's saying:

i'm still happy here
milan are happy with me here

when either of those cease to exist, he's going somewhere else...isn't that how all players work?

it seems to be like he's very sure of his future, unlike the article suggests.
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Great summary.

The articles title and little paragraph totally misconstrue Kaka's words
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 11 2007, 12:50 AM)
Great summary.

The articles title and little paragraph totally misconstrue Kaka's words
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Exactly ... I read it this morning and laughed at it rolleyes.gif

Tabloids rolleyes.gif
Fillipo Simone
But why was a statement, I mean any statement necessary at the first place?
Rossoneri7
Because of all the Madrid rumors I guess.
jbryant1
THis is another article which translates baldy or just take quotes out of context and trys to stir up controversy. They will always link Kaka to Madrid because it makes headlines.
I don't see why Kaka would want to waste his career at such a place.
redbabies
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"My rapport with Milan is clear: until Berlusconi wants me, I will remain with the Rossoneri. As soon as the President will not consider me non transferable anymore, I will go elsewhere."


So, why is he "unsure about the future" ?

Even Paolo would leave if he isn't wanted any more in the team. Be real! wink.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 10 2007, 10:10 PM)
But why was a statement, I mean any statement necessary at the first place?
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Who knows, I would even bet money that Kaka never even talked to this online tabloid but they just found quotes from different interviews he has done in the past and changed them up and made an "interview" out of them rolleyes.gif

AS even went as far as photoshopping a photo of him, so would you really be that surprised if they used old quotes from past interviews and misconstrued his words as they pleased? rolleyes.gif
KillerMax
Well, I'm glad everybody here is very confident on this issue, but something smells. Hopefully he will stay, but I will never love Kaka like other Milan players, unless he commits his future to us. After what happened with Sheva, I can not let myself get too attached to our most wonderful player.

Forza Milan!
dst
Guys, there's not question why there was a statement about his future... if the journalist asked him it's better to answer this way than with a "I wouldn't like to answer this question", isn't it!??

Anyway... I don't know... I wouldn't be surprised if Kaka ever left us but I (would like to) believe he will finish his career at Milan!
han2503
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Sep 11 2007, 06:16 PM)
Well, I'm glad everybody here is very confident on this issue, but something smells. Hopefully he will stay, but I will never love Kaka like other Milan players, unless he commits his future to us. After what happened with Sheva, I can not let myself get too attached to our most wonderful player.

Forza Milan!
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And I understand why you would feel this way, after the whole Sheva thing I felt the same.

But unless I see Kaka actually saying the words that he wants to leave himself or see his quote on the official site, then I'm not going to believe any supposed quotes coming off an internet football tabloid. Quotes can as easily be fabricated as photoshopped pictures with people holding victory newspapers rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif wink.gif

That is all I'm saying that unless the quotes are from a full proof reliable source then it's better not to believe them or dwell on what they might mean becuase they could either be totally made up or something that Kaka said but twisted upside down to make it seem like he is saying something that he actually isn't

@ dst, if he actually says 'no comment' or something to that effect when they ask him about his future it might seem more that he will actually transfer. Because when players usually say 'no comment' it usually means that whatever the media are speculating is true
dst
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 12 2007, 12:26 AM)
@ dst, if he actually says 'no comment' or something to that effect when they ask him about his future it might seem more that he will actually transfer. Because when players usually say 'no comment' it usually means that whatever the media are speculating is true
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Yes, that's what I was trying to say.
misha
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 12 2007, 12:26 AM)
@ dst, if he actually says 'no comment' or something to that effect when they ask him about his future it might seem more that he will actually transfer. Because when players usually say 'no comment' it usually means that whatever the media are speculating is true
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He can just say that he cleared this issue once and for all, and he won't talk about it anymore.
han2503
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 11 2007, 11:41 PM)
Yes, that's what I was trying to say.
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Just re-read your post and saw that I basically repeated what you said rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif

QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 12 2007, 09:33 AM)
He can just say that he cleared this issue once and for all, and he won't talk about it anymore.
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He can't not talk about it anymore since they keep asking him about it every moment they get the chance to
misha
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 12 2007, 12:37 PM)
He can't not talk about it anymore since they keep asking him about it every moment they get the chance to
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They ask him but he don't have to answer. If every time they ask hin he would say that he answered that already and has nothing to add, eventually they'd stop asking.
nuh
no this way not true caz if it waz true u would see it every single place in the worls and channel4
han2503
QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 12 2007, 09:46 AM)
They ask him but he don't have to answer. If every time they ask hin he would say that he answered that already and has nothing to add, eventually they'd stop asking.
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That could happen if he start to do as you are saying, or it could escalate more, and the media start to assume that if he isn't saying anything that means he's leaving.

That tactic could either work or back fire very easily
arivanjj
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 11 2007, 04:30 AM)
Now he's buying them!

*gets his gun ready for arivanjj*
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yes... Emerson was not a good choice!




*calling up Greek connections and putting a hit out on codename: dst aka duckhead*
dst
QUOTE (arivanjj @ Sep 13 2007, 04:07 PM)
*calling up Greek connections and putting a hit out on codename: dst aka duckhead*
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Don't mess with me! cool.gif


... biggrin.gif
misha
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 13 2007, 03:59 PM)
That could happen if he start to do as you are saying, or it could escalate more, and the media start to assume that if he isn't saying anything that means he's leaving.
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They can assume or write whatever they want (they do it anyway). As long as Kaka's quotes aren't there - I don't care.
han2503
QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 13 2007, 05:28 PM)
They can assume or write whatever they want (they do it anyway). As long as Kaka's quotes aren't there - I don't care.
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Agreed on that, but sometimes even when you read supposed "quotes" you should take them with a grain of salt because most of the time it eventually turns out that Kaka never actually even spoke to the publication that printed out his "quotes"
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 13 2007, 08:42 PM)
Agreed on that, but sometimes even when you read supposed "quotes" you should take them with a grain of salt because most of the time it eventually turns out that Kaka never actually even spoke to the publication that printed out his "quotes"
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That's true. That happens alot nowadays. I think it's a little tough for Kaka' to say "No comment" or "I've covered this" or whatever because then people will just make up that he's had a rift with the manager or other silly things, it's something we're going to have to live with, as annoying as it is! Especially in the summer. rolleyes.gif
han2503
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 14 2007, 12:33 AM)
That's true. That happens alot nowadays. I think it's a little tough for Kaka' to say "No comment" or "I've covered this" or whatever because then people will just make up that he's had a rift with the manager or other silly things, it's something we're going to have to live with, as annoying as it is! Especially in the summer.  rolleyes.gif
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Sadly, that's very true
misha
I just saw an interview with Kaka on local sport channel. He said (in a little bit funny English smile.gif ):

"I'm flattered by the interest from Madrid , but I'm happy at Milan and this year it was impossible. Next year - I don't know"
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 17 2007, 09:42 PM)
I just saw an interview with Kaka on local sport channel. He said (in a little bit funny English smile.gif ):

"I'm flattered by the interest from Madrid , but  I'm happy at Milan and this year it was impossible. Next year - I don't know"
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No! If you actually saw it then it can't be made up or anything.. He doesn't sound fully commited to me. Yes, he signed a new contract, but so did Henry last summer. sad.gif
Fillipo Simone
Why would he burn all bridges to Real anyway? He's not fully comitted, like 90% of modern day footballers and like 99% of the 21st century people-professionals.
misha
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 18 2007, 12:01 AM)
Why would he burn all bridges to Real anyway? He's not fully comitted, like 90% of modern day footballers and like  99% of the 21st century people-professionals.
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Sad, but true.
KillerMax
Oh my God, where are all the confident people who believe he doesn't wanna go to Real. Bye bye Kaka. I am already thinking of a Milan without him. king.gif
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Sep 17 2007, 11:26 PM)
Oh my God, where are all the confident people who believe he doesn't wanna go to Real. Bye bye Kaka. I am already thinking of a Milan without him. king.gif
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At the moment he is happy with us and as you say, he does not wanna go to Real. But as a normal thinking man, he leaves this option open. That's his policy, which is surely influenced by the recent Sheva move. I noticed some time ago that he avoids being aggressive on the Real matter. That was the indicator that he never will completely deny a Real move. But this is fair,..

You know, Milan allways stays Milan, with or without him. That's the difference - Inter or Roma are Ibra or Totti. Milan isn't Kaka,...
kurtsimonw
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 17 2007, 10:31 PM)
At the moment he is happy with us and as you say, he does not wanna go to Real. But as a normal thinking man, he leaves this option open.

You know, Milan allways stays Milan, with or without him. That's the difference - Inter or Roma are Ibra or Totti. Milan isn't Kaka,...
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On last season, I'd have to disagree.

Kaka' was as much Milan, as Totti was Roma.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 18 2007, 12:42 AM)
I just saw an interview with Kaka on local sport channel. He said (in a little bit funny English smile.gif ):

"I'm flattered by the interest from Madrid , but  I'm happy at Milan and this year it was impossible. Next year - I don't know"
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Did Kaka' renew yet ?! (If not, I am guessing this is why he stated tha the future is uncertain..)

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 18 2007, 01:31 AM)
At the moment he is happy with us and as you say, he does not wanna go to Real. But as a normal thinking man, he leaves this option open.

You know, Milan allways stays Milan, with or without him. That's the difference - Inter or Roma are Ibra or Totti. Milan isn't Kaka,...
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Exactly what he said king.gif
dst
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Sep 18 2007, 01:33 AM)
On last season, I'd have to disagree.

Kaka' was as much Milan, as Totti was Roma.
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Surely yes but I think Fillip meant that Milan always manages to find and/or create a new star! Sheva left but Kaka was already here... we'll find a new hero if he leaves... but I'd rather keep this one! king.gif
KillerMax
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 17 2007, 04:31 PM)
At the moment he is happy with us and as you say, he does not wanna go to Real. But as a normal thinking man, he leaves this option open. That's his policy, which is surely influenced by the recent Sheva move. I noticed some time ago that he avoids being aggressive on the Real matter. That was the indicator that he never will completely deny a Real move. But this is fair,..

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That's not true. He is just being nice to Milan fans. I am a very intuitive person and I pick up on stuff like that quickly. Ever since the first time he talked about how he has always dreamed of playing for Madrid one day, I always could tell that his mind is not fully concentrated on the Milan cause. He gets too frustrated easily on the pitch and he has this "giving up" attitude about him. And ever since then, he has left the topic in the air. He never gives a clear answer. It is most likely that after this year he will be thinking of a new challenge.
dst
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Sep 18 2007, 01:41 AM)
He gets too frustrated easily on the pitch and he has this "giving up" attitude about him. And ever since then, he has left the topic in the air. He never gives a clear answer. It is most likely that after this year he will be thinking of a new challenge.
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His frustration means that he cares, doesn't it? I have never seen him give up though... I really hope you are wrong about this, Kaka is a real treasure and the most beautiful player to watch... I want him to play in red and black!
misha
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 18 2007, 12:36 AM)
Did Kaka' renew yet ?! (If not, I am guessing this is why he stated tha the future is uncertain..)
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It's rumored that he did, but nothing official yet. Anyway, I don't think it's about that. If he want more money, all he gotta do is ask.
KillerMax
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 17 2007, 04:45 PM)
His frustration means that he cares, doesn't it? I have never seen him give up though... I really hope you are wrong about this, Kaka is a real treasure and the most beautiful player to watch... I want him to play in red and black!
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Me too, I'm just preparing myself to let go though.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (mishale @ Sep 18 2007, 01:46 AM)
It's rumored that he did, but nothing official yet. Anyway, I don't think it's about that. If he want more money, all he gotta do is ask.
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After Sheva leaving ... I doubt he is gonna leave Milan, not that I am confident that he will stay. But Silvio won't let him go, not after his performance last season ...

But yeah, all he needs to do is ask for more.
dst
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Sep 18 2007, 01:47 AM)
Me too, I'm just preparing myself to let go though.
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I'd like to keep thinking positively and I believe he'll be with us for a long time but I do keep that in mind in order to avoid being utterly disappointed if that day ever comes!
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 17 2007, 11:41 PM)
Surely yes but I think Fillip meant that Milan always manages to find and/or create a new star! Sheva left but Kaka was already here... we'll find a new hero if he leaves... but I'd rather keep this one! king.gif
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Right! smile.gif

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That's not true. He is just being nice to Milan fans. I am a very intuative person and I pick up on stuff like that quickly. Ever since the first time he talked about he has always dreamed of playing for Madrid one day, I always could tell that his mind is not fully concentrated on the Milan cause. He gets too frustrated easily on the pitch and he has this "giving up" attitude about him. And ever since then, he has left the topic in the air. He never gives a clear answer. It is most likely that after this year he will be thinking of a new challenge.

You know, we can meet on half way...Maybe he does dream to play for Real, but for a idealistic-imaginary Real. Not for Schusters Real, not for Sneijder and RvN in particular. And I'm sure he's happy right now with us,..
dst
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 18 2007, 01:48 AM)
But yeah, all he needs to do is ask for more.
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I think he asks it on the field! I wouldn't formally ask for a pay rise if I was him... he does more than enough when playing and they should show their appreciation. If anyone takes me for granted, I leave!
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 18 2007, 01:54 AM)
I think he asks it on the field! I wouldn't formally ask for a pay rise if I was him... he does more than enough when playing and they should show their appreciation. If anyone takes me for granted, I leave!
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Silvio did state that he would give Kaka' a new improved contract gladly. And that does prove what ur saying here, that he asked on the field last year.

I don't think anyone will take Kaka' for granted, last year's CL was down to 50% his efforts king.gif

btw .. Didn't Kaka' just buy a house in Milano this past summer ? unsure.gif
misha
The interview:

http://www.sport5.co.il/lobbyvideo.aspx?Fo...D=25479&lang=he

Just wait a few seconds until it starts.
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