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Portman
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Rijkaard set for Milan? 

Monday 12 March, 2007 ::: channel4.com

Frank Rijkaard could leave Barcelona for Milan at the end of the season, according to reports in Italy.

The Dutch tactician is allegedly looking for a house in Milan, fuelling speculation that he might replace Carlo Ancelotti on the San Siro bench.

Rijkaard is contracted to the Blaugrana until 2008, but his deal has a clause which would allow him to leave the Nou Camp one year in advance.

The defeat in Sunday’s Derby della Madonnina has also increased the chances of seeing Ancelotti end his relationship with the Via Turati outfit in the summer.

“I believe my future here depends on the results I will obtain,” admitted the Rossoneri Coach.


“I would like to stay here for many years, but I know how things go in football,”
added the tactician, who joined Milan in 2001.

It is believed that much will depend on Milan’s future in the Champions League, as well as their qualification for next season’s competition.

Yesterday’s defeat left the Diavoli six-points shy of the top four and only a victory in the Athens Final in May might convince the Rossoneri management to extend the Coach’s stay.

Rijkaard had already been linked with the Via Turati club, as he is allegedly tired of the tension between himself and the dressing room.

If the news were to be confirmed, reports suggest that Ancelotti might move in the opposite direction to La Liga, with Real Madrid allegedly interested in the Coach’s services.
redbabies
hope it happens.

we need fresh blood.
Rossoneri7
I think Carlo will still be here for one more season
dst
No No No!! No Rijkaard! No!

It's either Spalletti or Prandelli for me!
Tennie
Much as I enjoyed the Llama when he was a player for Milan, I'm not sure he'd be a great coach for the Rossoneri. If he does come, he needs a peacemaker sort of assistant coach like Ten Cate used to be at Barca. Ten Cate's presence in Barca is sorely missed, as he was the one who kept the peace in the dressing room -- and this year, there has been story after story about this or that player being unhappy or of fights among players. So....no Rijkaard for me unless he's got an awfully good assistant coming with him.
Portman
QUOTE (dst @ Mar 12 2007, 01:48 PM)
No No No!! No Rijkaard! No!

It's either Spalletti or Prandelli for me!
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I like Prandelli. I'd prefer him to Rijkaard anyday.
milanista1899
QUOTE (dst @ Mar 12 2007, 01:48 PM)
No No No!! No Rijkaard! No!

It's either Spalletti or Prandelli for me!
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I don't think they have any/enough experience when it comes to winning titles so I think I'd rather keep Carlo. Both are excellent coaches though. I want to see one of the Milan family take over from Ancelotti.
dst
QUOTE (milanista1899 @ Mar 12 2007, 06:06 PM)
I don't think they have any/enough experience when it comes to winning titles so I think I'd rather keep Carlo. Both are excellent coaches though. I want to see one of the Milan family take over from Ancelotti.
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Carlo not only hadn't won anything when he came to Milan (as a coach) but he also was considered (still is by some) a loser at that time!
milanista1899
QUOTE (dst @ Mar 12 2007, 04:11 PM)
Carlo not only hadn't won anything when he came to Milan (as a coach) but he also was considered (still is by some) a loser at that time!
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True but we didn't have the same realistic ambitions we have now, and he's been here for 5yrs, to get someone new and not even connected with Milan would be a huge step (a much bigger one than when Carlo replaced Terim)
HasanHasanly
id prefer Carlo to all the coaches in the world....
dst
QUOTE (milanista1899 @ Mar 12 2007, 06:54 PM)
True but we didn't have the same realistic ambitions we have now, and he's been here for 5yrs, to get someone new and not even connected with Milan would be a huge step (a  much bigger one than when Carlo replaced Terim)
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We need to take that step sooner rather than later!

But who was Carlo connected to Milan? If you mean as a former player then I don't think it would make that big a difference even if he wasn't. "It's good for la familia" I guess but then again Rijkaard is not even a proper coach yet IMO and I'd rather we didn't wait for Evani to come up through the young teams of Milan to the senior one!
Jack Sparrow
Let's see...coaches for Milan if HYPOTHETICALLY Carletto screwed up and got fired....

Numero Uno Choice:

Marco Van Basten: One Milan great replaces another. The 'la familia' thing is maintained. Knows all about the heritage of the club, so won't screw up. Can be extremely objective and there is no place for sentimentality on the team,only performance picks. Expect young exciting signings and Milan playing a 4-3-3 devil.gif Is not gonna have a problem winning people's/player's respect. Carlo's excellent relationship with the players might actually carry over. Has exactly the right attitude. Somewhere between the sullen seriousness of Carletto and the Jose "Look at me, look at me, kiss my butt, I'm the special one!" Mourinho

Drawbacks:

Is Dutch, so will be stubborn, and might not be overtly flexible. Is still majorly inexperienced and tactical excellence to a large extent depends on experience.

All in all a revolution is guaranteed. Whether it'll be a great leap forward or into the sh!thole remains to be seen.


Choice Number 2: Marcelo Lippi

Easily the number 1 motivator in Italy and arguably one of it's greatest coaches ever. Might not try anything special, might not create a side built for domination, but will be a match winning side.

Drawbacks:
Why should this guy try hard? What's he got left to prove?

Choice number 3:

Juande Ramos

Current Sevilla coach.

Positives: Have you seen Sevilla play??!!! ohmy.gif Fluid,attacking, and can make magic out of Brazillians. With Milan's attacking prowess, would be a sight to behold. Has sufficient experience, and a proven philosophy of play.

Negatives: Is Spanish. Might be a tempestous relationship with a much more conservative Milan management. Might not like the idea of not being able to call all the shots. And La Liga NOT EQUALS Serie A.


Choice number 4:

Jose 'The Chosen One' Mourinho

Positives: Big rep. Succesful. Huge media personality. Tactically astute. Hard taskmaster.

Negatives: Boring to watch. Big mouth. Expect to be at loggerheads with B&G 75% of the time. Will also be expensive.


These are my opinions.

Take your pick. I haven't really picked Spalleti or Prandelli. Spalleti will not leave Roma till he achieves something there. And Prandelli would be good for Gila. But won't be good for 'la familia' . Besides there are better out there if we really want. And mostly I have a bad feeling about this bloke. Especially when it comes to Europe.


Also rans: Bernd Schuster, Fabio Capello, Ten Cate, Portugal, dst,Bluesummers,han2503
dst
Capello is certainly NOT an option!!

What's with this objection about coaches being a part of Milan's history!?

Was Sacchi in any way related to AC Milan?? He was a shoe salesman before he became a coach and unless he owned Cesare Maldini's favorite shoe shop I can't spot any link between him and the club. And Arrigo Sacchi is the most successful coach in Silvio's era as Milan's president (well, along with Capello)!

MVB is not much better than Rijkaard so again no!!

I don't think so high of Lippi myself, I never regarded him a great coach and I wouldn't like him in Milan.

I really can't see why Juande Ramos is better than either Spalletti or Prandelli. I think the two Italians have done a much better job than him. Sevilla might play good football but they lack results (at least this season). They should have taken advantage of this crazy campaign already, they have many less injuries than any other club.

Spalletti plays with no forwards for two season in a row and look at what he's achieved! Prandelli has taken the best out of each one of his players in an unbelievable way. He has made Viola a top 4 club in no time and he also had an amazing spell at Parma and Verona!

ten Care is the only Dutch coach I think could be up to the job.

As for Mourinho... well... he's the best, I just hate his attitude (and I guess he also wouldn't like Don Silvio messing around with his plans...) !!

I think there's another thread about Rijkaard, or was it about Carlo's future? So please if there is indeed such one I would like someone to merge them so that all opinion be together.
milanista1899
QUOTE (dst @ Mar 12 2007, 05:19 PM)
We need to take that step sooner rather than later!

But who was Carlo connected to Milan? If you mean as a former player then I don't think it would make that big a difference even if he wasn't. "It's good for la familia" I guess but then again Rijkaard is not even a proper coach yet IMO and I'd rather we didn't wait for Evani to come up through the young teams of Milan to the senior one!
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If we don't win the CL then you could be right.

Yea, that's what I meant. How is Rijkaard not a proper coach yet? huh.gif

There's also Donadoni, Baresi, Tassotti & Galli (the last 3 I think have swapped around in the last 2 seasons) Carlo could swap with Donadoni & get his wish as the Italy coach. unsure.gif
dst
It's proven this year that the master of the puppets was Henk ten Care. Rijkaard was and is nothing but just the showcase, he's only an apprentice.

If Italy manage to win Scotland this coming weekend then I think Donadoni will be safe for now. And I don't think he would leave the national team anyway.
agenth
QUOTE (dst @ Mar 12 2007, 08:12 PM)
Capello is certainly NOT an option!!

What's with this objection about coaches being a part of Milan's history!?

Was Sacchi in any way related to AC Milan?? He was a shoe salesman before he became a coach and unless he owned Cesare Maldini's favorite shoe shop I can't spot any link between him and the club. And Arrigo Sacchi is the most successful coach in Silvio's era as Milan's president (well, along with Capello)!

MVB is not much better than Rijkaard so again no!!

I don't think so high of Lippi myself, I never regarded him a great coach and I wouldn't like him in Milan.

I really can't see why Juande Ramos is better than either Spalletti or Prandelli. I think the two Italians have done a much better job than him. Sevilla might play good football but they lack results (at least this season). They should have taken advantage of this crazy campaign already, they have many less injuries than any other club.

Spalletti plays with no forwards for two season in a row and look at what he's achieved! Prandelli has taken the best out of each one of his players in an unbelievable way. He has made Viola a top 4 club in no time and he also had an amazing spell at Parma and Verona!

ten Care is the only Dutch coach I think could be up to the job.

As for Mourinho... well... he's the best, I just hate his attitude (and I guess he also wouldn't like Don Silvio messing around with his plans...) !!

I think there's another thread about Rijkaard, or was it about Carlo's future? So please if there is indeed such one I would like someone to merge them so that all opinion be together.
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so... who do you like

and who is worthy of milan?

huh.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (mchanna @ Mar 13 2007, 03:23 AM)
so... who do you like

and who is worthy of milan?

huh.gif
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Jack Sparrow biggrin.gif
dst
QUOTE (mchanna @ Mar 13 2007, 02:23 AM)
so... who do you like

and who is worthy of milan?
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Mourinho, Hiddink, Spalletti and Prandelli are all "worthy of Milan"!

Thing is, I don't like the man Mourinho and I think Don Silvio would never hire him too. One because he don't like him and two because he can't handle him. But I could very well be wrong.

The rest, I would welcome!
Bluesummers
QUOTE (dst @ Mar 12 2007, 07:18 PM)
Mourinho, Hiddink, Spalletti and Prandelli are all "worthy of Milan"!

Thing is, I don't like the man Mourinho and I think Don Silvio would never hire him too. One because he don't like him and two because he can't handle him. But I could very well be wrong.

The rest, I would welcome!
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Almost right Dst, very good selection but you forgot a teeny tiny detail. But i'll fix it up for ya no problem.

QUOTE (dst @ Mar 12 2007, 07:18 PM)
Mourinho, Hiddink, Spalletti, Prandelli, and Bluesummers are all "worthy of Milan"!

Thing is, I don't like the man Mourinho and I think Don Silvio would never hire him too. One because he don't like him and two because he can't handle him. But I could very well be wrong.

The rest, I would welcome!
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tongue.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif wink.gif cool.gif king.gif devil.gif devilsmiley.gif
dst
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Mar 13 2007, 03:25 AM)
I'm dst's b!tch
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Well if you say so...

So you are the one that wants to become a football coach? Anything new about it?
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (dst @ Mar 13 2007, 04:45 AM)
Well if you say so...

So you are the one that wants to become a football coach? Anything new about it?
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ehm .. These are the people that call it soccer .. Be nice tongue.gif
Bluesummers
Yes i wanto be a coach and hopefully manager of AC Milan someday. I hope i can achieve my dream and one day you guys will be criticizing me tongue.gif And so what if i call it soccer, football, ball kicked with feet, footy, fooseball, a sport not for fat people, and european football. It makes no difference. its all the same tongue.gif
dst
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Mar 13 2007, 03:57 AM)
Yes i wanto be a coach and hopefully manager of AC Milan someday.  I hope i can achieve my dream and one day you guys will be criticizing me tongue.gif  And so what if i call it soccer, football, ball kicked with feet, footy, fooseball, a sport not for fat people, and european football.  It makes no difference.  its all the same tongue.gif
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Yes but it is football! laugh.gif
Jack Sparrow
Hey hey hey...I don't have a problem with Spalletti. All I said was I don't think he'd leave Roma without achieving something big. He'd be cool, coz then we might finally see Milan play with wingers. When was the last time we've seen that?

Prandelli, I don't know. I just have a bad feeling about this. I mean it's true about what he did to Viola, but then again Viola were always a top 4 team with Batigol and Rui until that little bankruptcy thingie happened. Besides I don't know about Europe. I'd prefer someone with European experience.

Hiddink was my personal favourite, but I don't think he wants a job where he'll be stuck at work all year. And he's Dutch! Ask Porty what happens to Dutch coaches in Serie A. He puts it very elegantly.
agenth
QUOTE (dst @ Mar 13 2007, 02:18 AM)
Mourinho, Hiddink, Spalletti and Prandelli are all "worthy of Milan"!

Thing is, I don't like the man Mourinho and I think Don Silvio would never hire him too. One because he don't like him and two because he can't handle him. But I could very well be wrong.

The rest, I would welcome!
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he can't handle the fire? xD

Nah, Silvio wants to put his nose into Milan's matters and Jose wants to be the lone regent of his club.
so that doesnt mix well
misha
Mourinho or Hiddink for me
dst
QUOTE (mchanna @ Mar 13 2007, 07:53 PM)
Nah, Silvio wants to put his nose into Milan's matters and Jose wants to be the lone regent of his club.
so that doesnt mix well
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that's what I was trying to say... biggrin.gif
Rossoneri7
Carlo forever !!!!!!!!! devil.gif devil.gif devil.gif devil.gif
Dano
There is only one manager in the world at this point in time I’d like rather than Carlo, and that’s Jose Mourinho. This guy is the ultimate tactician, works wonders with press. Granted, he’s a bit arrogant… But that’s because he can be!
Rossoneri7
Welcome Mee Lahn Fan king.gif


Yes Mourinho has credentials to coach this team smile.gif
Bluesummers
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Mar 13 2007, 05:24 PM)
Welcome Mee Lahn Fan king.gif
Yes Mourinho has credentials to coach this team smile.gif
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and so will i devil.gif
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Mar 14 2007, 06:46 AM)
and so will i  devil.gif
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rolleyes.gif .. Yeah yeah, and so will my grandmother tongue.gif
Jack Sparrow
QUOTE
. Yeah yeah, and so will my grandmother tongue.gif


Really?? How come she didn't come down to see us that day in ur place? We could have talked football? Or was she off coaching Al Qadissiya king.gif. wink.gif
Rossoneri7
She's too old ... If she came to Milan, the average age would jump to 62 in Milan ... And We'd never hear the end of it for MOST of the members wink.gif
Jack Sparrow
laugh.gif Fair point.
Fillipo Simone
rolleyes.gif Let`s go back to the topic...


QUOTE (dst @ Mar 12 2007, 02:48 PM)
No No No!! No Rijkaard! No!

It's either Spalletti or Prandelli for me!
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Why? I mean, Spalletti and Prandelli are good coaches, but I don`t see them as real Milan material.

I`d like Carlo cause of his past with Milan and cause his good coaching record. And what have Spalletti and Prandelli of that? Nothing...by bringing them on it would be something like the Zach time...we won the Scudetto and everything, but something was just missing... rolleyes.gif. Both of them haven`t achieved anything real special jet, and for Milan at this moment a coach-experiment isn`t needed.

I really like the idea of giving some real Milan legend the job as coach, someone who would be here with all his heart. So Rijkaard is IMO the logical choice. He won the CL and the Primera, also is a Milan legend.. devilsmiley.gif
dst
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 17 2007, 04:01 PM)
I`d like Carlo cause of his past with Milan and cause his good coaching record. And what have Spalletti and Prandelli of that? Nothing...by bringing them on it would be something like the Zach time...we won the Scudetto and everything, but something was just missing... rolleyes.gif. Both of them haven`t achieved anything real special jet, and for Milan at this moment a coach-experiment isn`t needed.

I really like the idea of giving some real Milan legend the job as coach, someone who would be here with all his heart. So Rijkaard is IMO the logical choice. He won the CL and the Primera, also is a Milan legend.. devilsmiley.gif
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You mean you'd like Frank, right?

Rijkaard is obviously NOT a good coach. It seems to me that he tries really hard to make as many wrong choices as he can!

He messed up at the Dutch National team - he reached the Euro semis of course but he had one great team in his hands, one that would have easily made it to the finals if it wasn't for his poor management! Next stop was Sparta Rotterdam... and the team's first relegation in history!

And then Barcelona... It seems like everyone who was saying that the Master Of The Puppets was Henk ten Cate is proven right now that he's gone... you can see that Rijkaard is not able to handle all those egos and personalities in the dressing room and his coaching is costly...

Look at his subs, look at the line-ups he comes up with... It's hilarious, the man is NOT a coach and Barcelona's management make me laugh so hard. He's as important to Barcelona as Mancini is to Inter! If you want some examples I'll give one to start with and then I will also do so for every game you ask me to.

Look at the game against Liverpool at Camp Nou. Liverpool equalize thanks to the joke of a goalie that Valdés is. That's not Rijkaard's fault of course but everything that comes after it is. As everybody knows the CL knock-out rounds are constituted of two legs. Well everybody but Franky who has probably skipped that class; He takes Motta, the only guy that covered up for the defence, out and then Loverpool's second is only a matter of time as their midfielders are having a party in Catalunia... Like the duel would end at 90min... Surprise! There's a second leg!! rolleyes.gif
Rossoneri7
@dst ..

I think Rijkaard still needs time, but turning him into the alibie for how the team has been doing is not fair.

First off, all those egos that u talk about would much rather be at teams like Milan or Madrid .. Basically somewhere important. And the media isn't helping one bit rolleyes.gif

Secondly, BArca is still in 1st place in the league so I dont understand the fuss rolleyes.gif The CL ? Werent Milan kicked out by Liverpool ?? And we are talking about Milan here.

Thirdly, I agree Rijkaard isn't the best coach out there, but he is at Barca and has the faith of their board. Barca has an even stronger team than last season and are no push overs. If they loose to Madrid, Athletico, Betis, and Sevilla (not saying they lost all those, but ..) Barcalona are at top spot wink.gif

Now it is not like me to defend Barca, and I still dislike them, but the truth has to be said, Rijkaard is still on course at bringing back the title.
Jack Sparrow
MVB's Dutch played Hiddink's Russia , and Guus got owned 4-1.

Can't wait to see em in Euro competition.

MVB for life king.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 17 2007, 06:17 PM)
MVB's Dutch played Hiddink's Russia , and Guus got owned 4-1.

  Can't wait to see em in Euro competition.

MVB for life king.gif
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What is it with you and MVB the coach??

Imo he's not a good one
Jack Sparrow
mad.gif

Not the good one???!!!

THIS IS MILAAAAANNNN!

*Kicks han into a huge hole in the ground*

I was saving it for dst, but you just had to open ur mouth.

mad.gif
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 17 2007, 06:58 PM)
mad.gif

Not the good one???!!!

THIS IS MILAAAAANNNN!

*Kicks han into a huge hole in the ground*

I was saving it for dst, but you just had to open ur mouth.

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biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

But I still don't think he's a good coach

*runs and hides*
Jack Sparrow
unsure.gif

That doesn't happen in the movie! Or does it have a different story line in Malta.
han2503
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 17 2007, 08:19 PM)
unsure.gif

That doesn't happen in the movie! Or does it have a different story line in Malta.
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Everything is different over here wink.gif
I_Rossoneri
QUOTE (dst @ Mar 17 2007, 02:37 PM)
You mean you'd like Frank, right?

Rijkaard is obviously NOT a good coach. It seems to me that he tries really hard to make as many wrong choices as he can!

He messed up at the Dutch National team - he reached the Euro semis of course but he had one great team in his hands, one that would have easily made it to the finals if it wasn't for his poor management! Next stop was Sparta Rotterdam... and the team's first relegation in history!

And then Barcelona... It seems like everyone who was saying that the Master Of The Puppets was Henk ten Cate is proven right now that he's gone... you can see that Rijkaard is not able to handle all those egos and personalities in the dressing room and his coaching is costly...

Look at his subs, look at the line-ups he comes up with... It's hilarious, the man is NOT a coach and Barcelona's management make me laugh so hard. He's as important to Barcelona as Mancini is to Inter! If you want some examples I'll give one to start with and then I will also do so for every game you ask me to.

Look at the game against Liverpool at Camp Nou. Liverpool equalize thanks to the joke of a goalie that Valdés is. That's not Rijkaard's fault of course but everything that comes after it is. As everybody knows the CL knock-out rounds are constituted of two legs. Well everybody but Franky who has probably skipped that class; He takes Motta, the only guy that covered up for the defence, out and then Loverpool's second is only a matter of time as their midfielders are having a party in Catalunia... Like the duel would end at 90min... Surprise! There's a second leg!!  rolleyes.gif
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TBH every bad thing you have said about Frank can also be said about carlo. At least Frank has constantly won silverware with Barca, and they are top of la liga.

Frank might not be the best manager around but there aren't too many others on the market. Lippi would be another good choice, but even he has weaknesses. There might be a chance that Mourhino will be available in the summer, if so then he should be highly considered IMO
han2503
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Mar 17 2007, 08:58 PM)
TBH every bad thing you have said about Frank can also be said about carlo. At least Frank has constantly won silverware with Barca, and they are top of la liga.

Frank might not be the best manager around but there aren't too many others on the market. Lippi would be another good choice, but even he has weaknesses. There might be a chance that Mourhino will be available in the summer, if so then he should be highly considered IMO
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Carlo would never do something as stupid as Rijkaard did against Liverpool, and that's a certainty.

Imo Lippi is not an option, don't like his style and can be more infuriating then Carlo at times in his selections and choices. Plus other then his success at Juve with the doped up players and Moggi running the show he hasn't really done aything that great either.

You might say the World Cup, but I am a believer that I could have been coaching Italy and they still would have won it this summer. He was just the right person at the right time.

Imo Mourinho is the only guy who could be a step up from what we already have.

And we'll see if Rijkaard will deliver any silverware this season when the brains behind Barca's team of the past seasons is in Holland.
Fillipo Simone
QUOTE (dst @ Mar 17 2007, 03:37 PM)
You mean you'd like Frank, right?

Rijkaard is obviously NOT a good coach. It seems to me that he tries really hard to make as many wrong choices as he can!

He messed up at the Dutch National team - he reached the Euro semis of course but he had one great team in his hands, one that would have easily made it to the finals if it wasn't for his poor management! Next stop was Sparta Rotterdam... and the team's first relegation in history!

And then Barcelona... It seems like everyone who was saying that the Master Of The Puppets was Henk ten Cate is proven right now that he's gone... you can see that Rijkaard is not able to handle all those egos and personalities in the dressing room and his coaching is costly...

Look at his subs, look at the line-ups he comes up with... It's hilarious, the man is NOT a coach and Barcelona's management make me laugh so hard. He's as important to Barcelona as Mancini is to Inter! If you want some examples I'll give one to start with and then I will also do so for every game you ask me to.

Look at the game against Liverpool at Camp Nou. Liverpool equalize thanks to the joke of a goalie that Valdés is. That's not Rijkaard's fault of course but everything that comes after it is. As everybody knows the CL knock-out rounds are constituted of two legs. Well everybody but Franky who has probably skipped that class; He takes Motta, the only guy that covered up for the defence, out and then Loverpool's second is only a matter of time as their midfielders are having a party in Catalunia... Like the duel would end at 90min... Surprise! There's a second leg!!  rolleyes.gif
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The CL final wink.gif ? Well, guess you made a clear point...Frank does some mistakes.

But hey, aren`t yoz still a bit harsh to him? I mean, you suggested Prandelli or Spalletti. At least Frank did win the Primera twice and the CL, and what did they done? I must say that I am positive that if I would watch their coaching in important matches like the Barac-Liverpool match, they would have done also mistakes like that...

But you mentioned the Euro 2000. That was just bad luck. I mean, look at the facts. This was the last time Holland did play real power football, they played attractive and great. They destroyed Yugoslavia 6:0, played great against France, Denmark and the Czechs...and then came Toldo. Sure, Frank helped with that clumsy penalty-taker list. But then again...
Was that really such a great Holland team at all? I`m not sure...van Gaal had the same squad but failed to reach the 2002 finals...

And Rijkaard all in all does play offensive, and that means risky. With Sparta it wasn`t exactly his fault...

Ten Cate? Well,...I don`t see him as such a genious...he is good, but...I expected more of him at Ajax. And I don`t belive it`s his departure that disrupted the Barca squad.

Somehow I belive Frank has the potential, and Milan is the perfect place to place that potential. Milan would be a new level for Rijkaard...
LaPalma
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 18 2007, 12:50 AM)
The CL final wink.gif ? Well, guess you made a clear point...Frank does some mistakes.

But hey, aren`t yoz still a bit harsh to him? I mean, you suggested Prandelli or Spalletti. At least Frank did win the Primera twice and the CL, and what did they done? I must say that I am positive that if I would watch their coaching in important matches like the Barac-Liverpool match, they would have done also mistakes like that...

But you mentioned the Euro 2000. That was just bad luck. I mean, look at the facts. This was the last time Holland did play real power football, they played attractive and great. They destroyed Yugoslavia 6:0, played great against France, Denmark and the Czechs...and then came Toldo. Sure, Frank helped with that clumsy penalty-taker list. But then again...
Was that really such a great Holland team at all? I`m not sure...van Gaal had the same squad but failed to reach the 2002 finals...

And Rijkaard all in all does play offensive, and that means risky. With Sparta it wasn`t exactly his fault...

Ten Cate? Well,...I don`t see him as such a genious...he is good, but...I expected more of him at Ajax. And I don`t belive it`s his departure that disrupted the Barca squad.

Somehow I belive Frank has the potential, and Milan is the perfect place to place that potential. Milan would be a new level for Rijkaard...
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Rijkaard IS a joke. OK, he won two league titles and the CL. But with THAT team in Primera Division, considering that all other teams were just too stupid...well.
About the CL. The UEFA practically GAVE it to them. All that stupid decisons, well.
I'm sure every experienced good european team (Liverfool showed it). Not give them to much room in midfield, play them hard and they'll break down.
And the Durch NT well laugh.gif
Jack Sparrow
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And the Durch NT well


mad.gif mad.gif You'll see, you'll see. He'll make you all go down on your knees, and beg to come over. And on that day, I will do an arrivanj and run naked down the streets of Trivandrum. devil.gif
AuRoR
I just hope that carlo leaves milan end of the season king.gif
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