Portman
Oct 27 2006, 05:07 PM
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CONI verdicts expected
Friday 27 October, 2006 - FI - channel4.com
The CONI Court of Arbitration is expected to hand out its verdicts on Friday, as Juventus, Lazio, Fiorentina and Milan hope for a reduction to their penalties.
The four clubs were all punished by the Federal Court sporting tribunal on July 25 for their part in the summer Calciopoli scandal and decided to present their appeal to the CONI Arbitration Court, the highest grade of justice in Italian sports.
The clubs agreed to keep the dispute within the realm of sporting justice after receiving “signals of willingness†from sports officials to conclude the situation fairly.
The final decision should be revealed in the evening after the stock market closes, although a CONI spokesman confirmed to Reuters that there is no official information of when the verdicts will be handed out, meaning everything might be postponed to Monday.
Juventus were stripped of their last two Serie A titles, demoted to Serie B and had a 30-point penalty reduced to 17 after a first appeal. Fiorentina, Lazio and Milan escaped relegation to the lower League but were docked points in Serie A; 19 for Fiorentina, 11 for Lazio and eight for Milan.
While CONI insists nothing has been decided in advance, pundits have predicted that the Bianconeri and the Viola’s handicap could be softened by seven points, whereas Lazio could see their penalty reduced to -6.
Also, it seems unlikely that Milan will be granted more than a two or three-point discount. Reggina were also punished and started the campaign on -15, but the minnows’ case will be examined in November.
So... when this b/s is out? Should be in hours...
... or Monday?
Portman
Oct 27 2006, 06:39 PM
According to repubblica.it, 21:30 (IT) is the time for the annoucement of the verdicts.
I_Rossoneri
Oct 27 2006, 07:27 PM
Wouldn't it be ironic if we were given back four points and then we beat merda tomorrow...
han2503
Oct 27 2006, 07:32 PM
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 27 2006, 06:27 PM)
Wouldn't it be ironic if we were given back four points and then we beat merda tomorrow...

Considering our luck lately, I don't think that's very likely.
But it would be really funny if it happened. Inter would start sh!tting bricks with worry
I_Rossoneri
Oct 27 2006, 07:36 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 27 2006, 06:32 PM)
Considering our luck lately, I don't think that's very likely.
But it would be really funny if it happened. Inter would start sh!tting bricks with worry

Well it's about time we had a little luck...
Actually while I'm at it - wouldn't it be funny if Gila scored?
han2503
Oct 27 2006, 07:44 PM
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 27 2006, 06:36 PM)
Well it's about time we had a little luck...
Actually while I'm at it - wouldn't it be funny if Gila scored?

That would be great but I don't even think he will play.
But if he really scored in this one, then that would be 2 wins for him, 1. his confidence would shoot right back up and secondly he would prove all the doubters wrong.
But I really don't care who scores, Dida could score for all I care, as long as we win this one. Because I know I have been more optimistic then most about this season, but if we lose this one, then we could kiss the scudetto goodbye
dst
Oct 27 2006, 08:00 PM
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 27 2006, 09:36 PM)
Actually while I'm at it - wouldn't it be funny if Gila scored?

Now you're not
at it ... you're actuall pretty far away from it !!
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 27 2006, 09:44 PM)
But I really don't care who scores, Dida could score for all I care
Kaaaaallaaaaadzzzzeeeeeeeee !!

Or maybe ... Borriello !!
agenth
Oct 27 2006, 08:22 PM
if gila really, really scores,
then i'm confident, that he will start to 'shine'
KillerMax
Oct 27 2006, 08:51 PM
I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen... Gila is gonna come in at the 80th minute and he will miss a great chance and he will give us that famous, look at me, I'm so poor... face... And that's how that will be...
han2503
Oct 27 2006, 09:01 PM
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Oct 27 2006, 07:51 PM)
I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen... Gila is gonna come in at the 80th minute and he will miss a great chance and he will give us that famous, look at me, I'm so poor... face... And that's how that will be...
OK
agenth
Oct 27 2006, 09:10 PM
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Oct 27 2006, 08:51 PM)
I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen... Gila is gonna come in at the 80th minute and he will miss a great chance and he will give us that famous, look at me, I'm so poor... face... And that's how that will be...
lol don't jinx it.
no wonder he hasn'T scored lately LOL
just kidding.
i'm no fan of gila, but for milan i hope he does score!!
agenth
Oct 27 2006, 09:55 PM
4 points for fiorentina
8 points for lazio
0 points for milan
OH WHAT A SURPRISE
Portman
Oct 27 2006, 10:06 PM
QUOTE (mchanna @ Oct 27 2006, 09:55 PM)
4 points for fiorentina
8 points for lazio
0 points for milan
OH WHAT A SURPRISE
And 8 for Juventus.
Let's go on another trial. Now it's what? TAR?
It's obvious that Inter must win this title... that's why no deduction for us.
agenth
Oct 27 2006, 10:08 PM
yeah forgot. here an article:
CONI cuts Calciopoli penalties Friday 27 October, 2006
Juventus, Lazio and Fiorentina have had their Calciopoli penalties reduced, but Milan remain with an eight-point handicap.
The Biancocelesti and Bianconeri had the biggest discount, as both have had eight points handed back to them after tonight’s verdict from the CONI Arbitration.
Fiorentina were hoping for a substantial discount on their original 19-point penalty, but it has merely been cut to –15.
Milan’s appeal failed, as their eight-point handicap will stand for the 2006-07 campaign.
This means that the current Serie A table now has Lazio level with Milan on seven points and Fiorentina on 0.
In Serie B, Juventus leapfrog up to 10 points and 11th place.
The clubs lodged their appeals in front of the commission on October 11 and 12, but a decision was only formally announced this evening.
The original Calciopoli trial had inflicted more severe handicaps on the sides, as Juventus, Fiorentina and Lazio were demoted to Serie B with penalties of 30, 12 and seven points respectively. Milan stayed in the top flight with a 15-point penalty.
These verdicts were cut on appeal so that only Juve remained in the Second Division with a 17-point penalty. Fiorentina and Lazio returned to Serie A, starting from –19 and –11, while Milan went back into the Champions League through the preliminary round and began the campaign from –8 points.
This could well be the final act in the Calciopoli trial that has dragged on since the summer, amid wiretapping scandals, match-fixing allegations and claims of pressure put on referees to favour certain sides.
Yet there may be more on the horizon, as clubs still unhappy with their lot could in theory appeal to the TAR tribunal. As it is outside the jurisdiction of the sporting courts, this civil action would infuriate the Federation and might earn new penalties for the sides involved.
KillerMax
Oct 27 2006, 10:42 PM
What a joke...
shoryuken
Oct 27 2006, 10:46 PM
Shocking

Go to the Tar, I know Milan officials said we wouldn't but this verdict is cretinous
kidnicky
Oct 27 2006, 10:51 PM
ok I don't post to much here because i'm always at work but this is just b*llsh*t!!!

..... this has to be a joke ... f*ck! all the teams with the penalties reducted except us??!!?
Portman
Oct 27 2006, 11:02 PM
QUOTE
COMUNICATO UFFICIALE A.C.MILAN
27/10/2006
La decisione della Camera di Conciliazione e di Arbitrato del CONI non merita alcun commento da parte dell'A.C.Milan.
"The decision of CONI does not deserve any comment from AC Milan". On the official website.
shoryuken
Oct 27 2006, 11:07 PM
QUOTE (Portugal @ Oct 27 2006, 10:02 PM)
"The decision of CONI does not deserve any comment from AC Milan". On the official website.
TAR TAR TAR!!!
I_Rossoneri
Oct 27 2006, 11:13 PM
QUOTE (shoryuken @ Oct 27 2006, 10:07 PM)
Trouble is, is that we will end up with a heavier punishment if we do that!
We'll just have to realise that there are far more dark and sinister forces controlling Serie A, and those forces are very close to home
Portman
Oct 27 2006, 11:16 PM
QUOTE (shoryuken @ Oct 27 2006, 11:07 PM)
Yup. To TAR (Tribunali Amministrativi Regionali) all the way. This is pathetic. Specially the Lazio situation.
Cantamessa said he would accept the CONI's decision but after this... ? I don't so and I really hope not.
dst
Oct 27 2006, 11:28 PM
Thanks you Inter !! You can have your scudetto !! I just want to f@ck your @ss deep and hard in these two matches we'll play against each other ... that's all I want !!
QUOTE (Portugal @ Oct 28 2006, 01:02 AM)
"The decision of CONI does not deserve any comment from AC Milan". On the official website.
...
I don't think we should go to the TAR !! First of all, I don't think it's right to do so and secondly Inter will have more points deducted for us !!
Portman
Oct 27 2006, 11:30 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Oct 27 2006, 11:28 PM)
I don't think we should go to the TAR !! First of all, I don't think it's right to do so and secondly Inter will have more points deducted for us !!
If this season is lost (Serie A)... I think we should go appeal to all the courts that we can.
All of them.
dst
Oct 27 2006, 11:38 PM
QUOTE (Portugal @ Oct 28 2006, 01:30 AM)
If this season is lost (Serie A)... I think we should go appeal to all the courts that we can.
I still believe we can make it. And I think our board does too, but even if they didn't they would never admit the opposite by appealing again cause we all know we're going to get punished even harder !! Plus we also gotta qualify for the CL ...
I say f@ck them, they're not worth it anyway !!
Inter are as fuked up in their shi t bog as is Giuve !!
X-Offender
Oct 27 2006, 11:58 PM
This is a truley pathetic situation. I can't beileve that Lazio has now the same points we've got, it's ridicolous. I don't know have words to describe how much disappoined I am. CONI my @ss, what they did tonight is a shame for all the italian football.
agenth
Oct 28 2006, 12:00 AM
why were lazio so many points abducted?
and why milan none?!
why why why
i honestly have no clue
misha
Oct 28 2006, 04:57 AM
They are a f@cking joke !!!
han2503
Oct 28 2006, 08:02 AM
QUOTE (Portugal @ Oct 27 2006, 10:16 PM)
Yup. To TAR (Tribunali Amministrativi Regionali) all the way. This is pathetic.
Specially the Lazio situation.Cantamessa said he would accept the CONI's decision but after this... ? I don't so and I really hope not.
Wheren't Lazio the most involved in all this second to Juve??
I don't care what they do anymore, if they want to redicule Italian football even more then it has already been during the summer then they should go ehead. These are just pethetic, and it's not just because of us not being reduced any of our points but the leniancy being given to the other clubs, especially Lazio and Juve.
Jack Sparrow
Oct 28 2006, 10:48 AM
Fee fye fp fum....I smell the blood of merda scum, be he black or be he white, Silvio will grind his bones in bed tonight...
I hope :0
han2503
Oct 28 2006, 03:19 PM
QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 28 2006, 09:48 AM)
Fee fye fp fum....I smell the blood of merda scum, be he black or be he white, Silvio will grind his bones in bed tonight...
I hope :0
I'm sorry jack but could you change that sig. It is a bit unsettling.
HasanHasanly
Oct 28 2006, 05:14 PM
No, I dont think we should go to TAR. Plus i am sure that Milan wont go, as they do not plan to do anything this season. So lets just sit and wait for the games and points to come and pass by for 2006/2007. We will see what happens for 2007/2008.
Rossoneri7
Oct 28 2006, 10:15 PM
I think it is better this way that they didn't reduce our punishment !
We are Milan !! We will make it back !!
We are a #1 team, we don't need courts or paper scudettos to attain a rich history of success !!!
What good is it to get the reduction, then get bashed at by others ?! NO .. I say we stay the way we are and if we make it 3rd .. At least we made it from -8 to get to 3rd place.
BTW ... MILAN WILL BE ONE OF THE TOP THREE TEAMS IN ITALY AT THE END OF THE SEASON !
aaron
Oct 31 2006, 01:48 PM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 29 2006, 12:15 AM)
I think it is better this way that they didn't reduce our punishment !
We are Milan !! We will make it back !!
We are a #1 team, we don't need courts or paper scudettos to attain a rich history of success !!!
What good is it to get the reduction, then get bashed at by others ?! NO .. I say we stay the way we are and if we make it 3rd .. At least we made it from -8 to get to 3rd place.
BTW ... MILAN WILL BE ONE OF THE TOP THREE TEAMS IN ITALY AT THE END OF THE SEASON !good comments
they probably want inter to win the title
well they will go no where they will probably
crash out of the CL early and it is still early
in the season just look how we caught Juve
last season, i think we can still come 1st or 2nd
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