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Portman
Sep 23 2006, 07:49 PM
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Serie A - Round 5

Milan x Siena

Sunday, 1st of October '06

Time: 15:00 (IT), 14:00 (UK)


After losing 2 points in Livorno, will Milan continue the 100% win record at the San Siro?

I'll go for a 2-0 in this one.

Forza Milan!
X-Offender
Sep 23 2006, 07:57 PM
I would go for a 3-0 cause it's going to be the last match before the break and the players would like to finish it with a good performance, especially the match is in San Siro.
dst
Sep 23 2006, 08:24 PM
QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 23 2006, 09:49 PM)
Forza Milan!
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We won't lose any points at the San Siro this season ... not even in the two encounters against Merda ... cool.gif



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KillerMax
Sep 23 2006, 08:38 PM
Too early to talk about it, but I have a feeling we are going to miss Sheva in the long run...
dst
Sep 23 2006, 08:46 PM
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Sep 23 2006, 10:38 PM)
Too early to talk about it, but I have a feeling we are going to miss Sheva in the long run...
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all we're missing is Gila ...
KillerMax
Sep 23 2006, 08:57 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 23 2006, 01:46 PM)
all we're missing is Gila ...
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Nope. We are missing our second striker. Sheva was consistent and we benefited a lot from him. Oliveira on the other hand looks like he is not liking Serie A all that much... rolleyes.gif
dst
Sep 23 2006, 09:02 PM
Excuse me but I insist .. all we're missing is Gila !! biggrin.gif
arivanjj
Sep 23 2006, 10:51 PM
i go for 2 - 0 too, and we're not missing anybody, just because of 1 bad game doesn't mean we're done. and as dst said we're not gonna lose points at home this season.
misha
Sep 23 2006, 11:01 PM
I think it will be a big win. Something like 3:0 or 4:1. Losing points at home isn't an option.
han2503
Sep 24 2006, 10:26 AM
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Sep 23 2006, 07:57 PM)
Nope. We are missing our second striker. Sheva was consistent and we benefited a lot from him. Oliveira on the other hand looks like he is not liking Serie A all that much... rolleyes.gif
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Why is everyone turning on him because of ONE bad game, last season's Sheva missed COUNTLESS chances, especially at the end of the season, I didn't see anyone criticising him!!

The guy has only played 3 games in serie A! What did you expect? that he will already be topping the scoring charts? I know you're going to say that he missed a great chance in the last game, but so what?? Pippo did the same thing TWICE, in both the Livorno and Ascoli match, Gila and Kaka did it against Parma, now imagine being a new player in a big team, I would expect that he has some problems adjusting and probably hesitated a bit.

QUOTE (arivanjj @ Sep 23 2006, 09:51 PM)
i go for 2 - 0 too, and we're not missing anybody, just because of 1 bad game doesn't mean we're done. and as dst said we're not gonna lose points at home this season.
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THANK YOU!!!!!!
GULLIVER
Sep 24 2006, 12:59 PM
2-0 for me. Gila will score in this game, will show a good game and will score ! So Carlo will put him in the starting XI in Lille, and he'll mess up in CL again biggrin.gif
han2503
Sep 24 2006, 01:04 PM
QUOTE (GULLIVER @ Sep 24 2006, 11:59 AM)
2-0 for me. Gila will score in this game, will show a good game and will score ! So Carlo will put him in the starting XI in Lille, and he'll mess up in CL again biggrin.gif
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The Lille match comes before this one, but I think one from Pippo and Oli will be dropped, both didn't have a good game against Livorno
GULLIVER
Sep 24 2006, 01:10 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 24 2006, 04:04 PM)
The Lille match comes before this one, but I think one from Pippo and Oli will be dropped, both didn't have a good game against Livorno
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Oh rolleyes.gif , I really messed up .

Then it will be the opposite. Gilardino will score in CL and will suck in the match against Siena.
han2503
Sep 24 2006, 01:15 PM
QUOTE (GULLIVER @ Sep 24 2006, 12:10 PM)
Oh  rolleyes.gif , I really messed up .

Then it will be the opposite. Gilardino will score in CL and will suck in the match against Siena.
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Highly unlikely, but I really wish he could score in the CL, not just for Milan but also for himself. He really needs to get that first goal, in order for him to relax. Then I'm sure scoring would come easy for him
arivanjj
Sep 24 2006, 01:20 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 24 2006, 10:15 PM)
He really needs to get that first goal, in order for him to relax. Then I'm sure scoring would come easy for him
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yes that's true, and the longer he holds this curse the harder it'll get for him... unsure.gif
GULLIVER
Sep 24 2006, 01:22 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 24 2006, 04:15 PM)
Highly unlikely, but I really wish he could score in the CL, not just for Milan but also for himself. He really needs to get that first goal, in order for him to relax. Then I'm sure scoring would come easy for him
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Well, actually I'm going to bet on each game that he'll score and guess what - the cooficent of him scoring is very high espacially in CL. So I can earn 3-4 times more.

Well, that's just for fun, but Gilardino needs to score and everybody expects that from him.

And when he starts, I think it will be hard to stop him.
dst
Sep 24 2006, 01:56 PM
QUOTE (GULLIVER @ Sep 24 2006, 03:10 PM)
Then it will be the opposite. Gilardino will score in CL and will suck in the match against Siena.
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so there's not the alightest chance that he'll do good in both ... rolleyes.gif
han2503
Sep 24 2006, 02:35 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 24 2006, 12:56 PM)
so there's not the alightest chance that he'll do good in both ...  rolleyes.gif
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Gila always does good in matches. Sometimes it's noticable, and other times it isn't.

The Cl thing however needs to get sorted. When I see him play in a Cl match I'm always hoping and praying for him to get that break through goal.
dst
Sep 24 2006, 03:59 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 24 2006, 04:35 PM)
Gila always does good in matches. Sometimes it's noticable, and other times it isn't.
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well you might want to tell Gulliver instead ...
Nova
Sep 27 2006, 12:20 AM
I expect Siena to be trashed.

4-0
amancik
Sep 27 2006, 12:24 AM
Sheva have always scored against Siena ... now he's not here I wonder who's gonna do the job now ...

I'm really worried about our striking force ...

I've watched Arsenal today and I must say, we need a striker like Van Persie (forward but winger at the same time) ...
amancik
Sep 27 2006, 12:27 AM
I'm predicting a 3-0 win at San Siro ... we always win at home ...
they'll be working on their shooting in their training sessions

Come on Milan! Get Back On Track! devil.gif devilsmiley.gif
Rossoneri7
Sep 27 2006, 12:33 AM
QUOTE (amancik @ Sep 27 2006, 02:24 AM)
Sheva have always scored against Siena ... now he's not here I wonder who's gonna do the job now ...

I'm really worried about our striking force ...

I've watched Arsenal today and I must say, we need a striker like Van Persie (forward but winger at the same time) ...
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Yeah .. I'm worried too .. I mean two goaless games in a row .. Against teams like Livorno and lille .. And at Parma, thank God for Janko or else (from the way the game was played) we could have easily gotten 3 straight games in a row.

Moreover, u have teams like Roma who thrashed Parma 4-1 .. I mean our game was fine at the back, by upfront, it is horrendous to come out with a 1-0 win against such teams, not to mention a goaless draw .. I get that it is still early in the season, but we still havnt wiped out our -8 deficit, as it is still quit a climb to the top of the table
m1ke
Sep 27 2006, 12:36 AM
I'm going to bet my car that Goliveira scores in this game. Any takers?
amancik
Sep 27 2006, 12:38 AM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 27 2006, 12:33 AM)
Moreover, u have teams like Roma who thrashed Parma 4-1 .. I mean our game was fine at the back, by upfront, it is horrendous to come out with a 1-0 win against such teams, not to mention a goaless draw


after watching Roma and Inter scoring lots of goals than us, it makes me wonder whether we can beat them or not
Rossoneri7
Sep 27 2006, 12:46 AM
QUOTE (amancik @ Sep 27 2006, 02:38 AM)
after watching Roma and Inter scoring lots of goals than us, it makes me wonder whether we can beat them or not
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To be honest .. If this was 1 week ago, I'd say we scare the sh!t out of the BIG teams, and as usual we haul in the results !

Now, I would rather be undecided cuz Dida is in extremely good form as Nesta, Kaladze, Kaka, Cafu, Pirlo, and Inzaghi are. Still, they were on good form against low ranking teams and their effeorts were not sufficient enough to bring out the real Milan ..

It's really sad .. After such a good start to the season. And how could tierdness be an excuse when it's the start of the season .. how could the team be tiered when we still have a HUGE gap with the top four in the table ?! I cant understand this ?? Two games a week ? But this is Milan we always play two games a week, it's only normal !
Rossoneri7
Sep 27 2006, 12:48 AM
QUOTE (m1ke @ Sep 27 2006, 02:36 AM)
I'm going to bet my car that Goliveira scores in this game. Any takers?
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What do u drive ?
dst
Sep 27 2006, 01:03 AM
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Sep 27 2006, 02:33 AM)
Against teams like Livorno and lille ..

I mean our game was fine at the back, by upfront, it is horrendous to come out with a 1-0 win against such teams, not to mention a goaless draw ..
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First of all I agree that we should have won these last two games and we would have if only we could shoot the f@cking thing in the net but especially Lille is the kind of team that we are most vulnerable to; they have great speed.

... and I just want to mention that our defence has been good only in the last two games, in the rest of the matches this season it's been quite bad and goals conceded id not so grave a factor cause against greater teams we would have conceded a lot more considering those displays.


QUOTE (m1ke @ Sep 27 2006, 02:36 AM)
I'm going to bet my car that Goliveira scores in this game. Any takers?
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I'm in/on !!! If you win ... well, I'll give you my roller-blades !!!
But ... let me guess; you don't have a car !! cool.gif biggrin.gif
KillerMax
Sep 27 2006, 02:10 AM
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 26 2006, 06:03 PM)
But ... let me guess; you don't have a car !!  cool.gif  biggrin.gif
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That's what I thought! tongue.gif
arivanjj
Sep 27 2006, 10:05 AM
QUOTE (m1ke @ Sep 27 2006, 09:36 AM)
I'm going to bet my car that Goliveira scores in this game. Any takers?
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yeah i think he'll defintely score if he is given the chance.
m1ke
Sep 27 2006, 10:32 AM
The car!

PS. Collection only biggrin.gif

I expect a decent performance against Siena. Carlo only used 1 sub against Lille, so I don't really know what kind of squad he's going to put out. Does anyone know how long Gourcuff will be out for?
X-Offender
Sep 27 2006, 02:39 PM
This would be my line up, even though it's too early to talk about it: Dida; Cafu, Nesta, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Pirlo, Brocchi, Seedorf, Kakà; Oliveira, Inzaghi.
han2503
Sep 27 2006, 05:36 PM
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 27 2006, 01:39 PM)
This would be my line up, even though it's too early to talk about it: Dida; Cafu, Nesta, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Pirlo, Brocchi, Seedorf, Kakà; Oliveira, Inzaghi.
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I like that line-up. But I'm still undecided about wether or not Gila should be the starter instead of Pippo. I think this is were he excels, and if he is to regain his confidence and form it should be against a small side like Siena.

If you look at Pippo's recent games, even the ones where he scored, he does miss some clear chances also, the ones I can think of off the top of my head are the games against AEK and Red star, the goal just makes you forget the missed chances.

In the game against Lille Gila only had ONE good chance (that he really should have scored) but other then that, he was either completly isolated or being double teamed by heavy marking. You all know that I am a big fan of the xmas tree but for some reason it's not working for us this season.

Oliveira should play, even if he doesn't score, he does contribute a lot to the attack by giving support to our box striker.
Portman
Sep 27 2006, 05:52 PM
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Milan-Siena ::: Preview by channel4.com - Football Italia

Siena might look like simple opponents for Milan on paper, but recent events mean it should be anything but an easy win at the San Siro. The Rossoneri are looking almost as shaky as their city rivals Inter at the moment, while their Tuscan opponents have kicked off the season on top form.

Milan’s troubles stem from the claims of numerous bust-ups between Coach Carlo Ancelotti and his players. Just days after a pitchside confrontation with Brazilian Kaka, he was caught on camera arguing with Clarence Seedorf during the disappointing draw with Livorno. Add to that the recurring criticisms from the terraces of Carletto’s squad rotation system and things are far from settled at the Rossoneri.

But despite those worrying signs Milan are still undefeated and, with the exception of the forgivable if unexpected draw at fortress Livorno, they would still have a 100 per cent record. Four matches into the season they are moving steadily up the table after wiping out their Calciopoli penalty immediately and putting themselves two points into the positive.

Ancelotti is again expected to rest some his players due to the fixture congestion caused by the Champions League. Andrea Pirlo and Alberto Gilardino are both unlikely to feature after their mid-week exertions and Serginho is out through injury. Paolo Maldini and Yoann Gourcuff should both be fit to play after missing the European match, although the latter may have to be content with a place on the bench due to Massimo Ambrosini’s impressive form.

Siena will be without new signing Paul Codrea who is not due back from injury for around a month. More concerning though will be the suspension of influential defender Daniele Portanova after his red card against Cagliari. That means Leandro Rinaudo should get another chance to prove himself with the Tuscan outfit after his summer move from Palermo. Mario Frick and Enrico Chiesa are expected to start as the forward pair ahead of the out of sorts Erjon Bogdani.

Despite failing to earn a win on home soil this season, Siena currently hold a 100 per cent record on their travels after wins over Torino and Chievo. While Milan will undoubtedly be a much harder task, the Robur will still be confident of going one better than their Tuscan compatriots Livorno managed on Sunday. With Milan’s perfect home record hosting Siena’s equally spotless away form, it should be a tense encounter at the San Siro.

Man on fire: Mario Frick (Siena) – The Lichtenstein striker has been on top form since his summer move from Ternana. The brace he scored against Torino gave Siena a crucial win and secured an excellent start to the season.

Last season: Milan 3-1 Siena

Form guide: Milan (W W W D -) Siena (W L W D -)

Milan (probable): Dida; Bonera, Nesta, Maldini, Favalli; Gattuso, Ambrosini, Seedorf; Kaka; Oliveira, Inzaghi

Siena (probable): Manninger; Bertotto, Gastaldello, Rinaudo, Molinaro; Antonini, D’Aversa, Vergassola, Candela; Frick, Chiesa

Ref: To follow...
han2503
Sep 27 2006, 06:00 PM
Milan (probable): Dida; Bonera, Nesta, Maldini, Favalli; Gattuso, Ambrosini, Seedorf; Kaka; Oliveira, Inzaghi

If this is the lineup, then Seedorf should be placed in the middle, with ambro and Gattuso on either side of him, I don't want ambro and Rino next to each other
amancik
Sep 27 2006, 06:05 PM
Ambrosini impressive form ? ... did he play that good vs Livorno and Lille?
han2503
Sep 27 2006, 06:27 PM
QUOTE (amancik @ Sep 27 2006, 05:05 PM)
Ambrosini impressive form ? ... did he play that good vs Livorno and Lille?
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Not to my recollection.

And, they just need to stop with these rift rumors, what coaches don't have arguments with their players during a game???!!

It' normal, Seedprf was underperforming, BIG TIME, and he got a good response to that from Carlo.

I think we need to score quite a few goals in this one, for all the players to regain the confidence they had in their first matches.
dst
Sep 27 2006, 06:28 PM
QUOTE (amancik @ Sep 27 2006, 08:05 PM)
Ambrosini impressive form ? ... did he play that good vs Livorno and Lille?
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as good as I would have played !!!
han2503
Sep 27 2006, 06:29 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 27 2006, 05:28 PM)
as good as I would have played !!!
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OOOO are you a good player?? biggrin.gif
dst
Sep 27 2006, 06:35 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 27 2006, 08:29 PM)
OOOO are you a good player??  biggrin.gif
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No Ambro sucks!!!
KillerMax
Sep 27 2006, 08:20 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 27 2006, 11:35 AM)
No Ambro sucks!!!
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Ambro doesn't suck. He is just not in a good form right now.
KillerMax
Sep 27 2006, 08:24 PM
QUOTE (m1ke @ Sep 27 2006, 03:32 AM)
The car!

PS. Collection only biggrin.gif

I expect a decent performance against Siena. Carlo only used 1 sub against Lille, so I don't really know what kind of squad he's going to put out. Does anyone know how long Gourcuff will be out for?
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Is that really your car? Your bet is on!!!!!!!! BTW, would you bet your gf? JK!! laugh.gif tongue.gif
dst
Sep 27 2006, 08:26 PM
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Sep 27 2006, 10:20 PM)
Ambro doesn't suck. He is just not in a good form right now.
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I honestly can't recall the time when he was in good form ... He's never played better than he has been lately !!
KillerMax
Sep 27 2006, 09:36 PM
QUOTE (dst @ Sep 27 2006, 01:26 PM)
I honestly can't recall the time when he was in good form ... He's never played better than he has been lately !!
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Begining of last season before he got injured.
X-Offender
Sep 27 2006, 10:23 PM
QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 27 2006, 06:00 PM)
Milan (probable): Dida; Bonera, Nesta, Maldini, Favalli; Gattuso, Ambrosini, Seedorf; Kaka; Oliveira, Inzaghi

If this is the lineup, then Seedorf should be placed in the middle, with ambro and Gattuso on either side of him, I don't want ambro and Rino next to each other
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I doubt that's going to be the line up. I think Carlo will put Cafu because there are going to be 15 days off and he can rest all the time he wants. I also think Pirlo should get a place. Paolo isn't going to play cause he's injured, so I guess that line up is total b/s, the reporter didn't even know what he was writing.
fresh_prince7
Sep 28 2006, 12:12 PM
Should beat siena comfortably, but we have to start taking these chances were creating.

As far as our strikers go, we have wasted some very good opportunities this season. Tell you what though in the games we've played so far this season, sheva would have had alot of goals next to his name (unlike at chelsea). We have created so many good chances, but have let down by not scoring.

Barca will feel our pain with out eto'o for few months, will be interesting to see what impact that has. Good thing they kept saviola.

I'll go with 2-0 for this match, hopefully with gila and oli on the score sheet.

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Darunia
Sep 28 2006, 04:49 PM
Gourcuff has a cracked rib sad.gif

so yeah I don't think he's "fit" again sleep.gif
han2503
Sep 28 2006, 06:24 PM
QUOTE (Darunia @ Sep 28 2006, 03:49 PM)
Gourcuff has a cracked rib sad.gif

so yeah I don't think he's "fit" again sleep.gif
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WHAT??!!

How the hell did he crack his rib?
C-Xaris
Sep 28 2006, 06:25 PM
hey guys i dont want to say it but its true. without sheva we are not the team we used to be. our attack sucks, there is no chemistry between them
Nova
Sep 28 2006, 07:19 PM
QUOTE (C-Xaris @ Sep 28 2006, 06:25 PM)
hey guys i dont want to say it but its true. without sheva  we are not the team we used to be. our attack sucks, there is no chemistry between them
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Looks like sheva without Milan aint the player he used to be either.
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