I've just read that Real Madrid is ready to sell Cicinho for 8M
Capello said that he doesn't need him in the team for next year


I think it'll be a good replacer of Cafu if Milan make a move

Source?

http://www.marca.es/

Yes i read it too
I think 8 mil its not much for him
Its better to pay 8 m on Cicinho then 4 or 5m and Foggia on Oddo
And as a CB if Roma will sell Chivu i think we should buy him

i ve read these news too real madrid want to sell cicinho and rome want to sell chivu i hope we sign them

Chivu is one of my favourite defenders, but I don't think he'll leave Roma anytime soon. Cuz he stated that everytime something surfaces about his transfer to anywhere ..

Oddo is much better..

Real Madrid invite £6M offers for Cicinho
tribalfooball.com - August 27, 2006

Real Madrid are willing to listen to offers of £6 million for fullback Cicinho.
The Brazil international isn't rated by Real coach Fabio Capello, who has been critical of his defensive game.

Capello wants to add a new centre-half before the transfer window shuts and Real directors are seeking to use the cash raised by Cicinho's sale to fund the deal.

From today Real will circulate Cicinho's name to interested clubs. The Brazilian actually was given a tour of Old Trafford by Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson last season before agreeing to join Real.

does milan want him we should buy this player he is the best rb in the world and 8m is nothing for a player like him

I say he's cheap ... but still Oddo is better. We HAVE TO buy both Oddo and Chivu/Gallas!!!!

Please Silvio ... I'm not going to see Barbara again if you do this!!!!

cicinho is better than oddo man

This is good news. 8 millions is nothing, I hope our board will consider this option, please!

well he's better at running, as is Martins!!!! Damn we missed Obafemi ...
Still I believe he would be able to learn what the f@ck defense is next to our heores!!!

I think you're the only one who doesn't like Cicinho here, dst.

Hmm....I'd still prefer Oddo. But in the offense Cicinho is definetely stronger than Oddo, and vice versa. I want Oddo because we need a defender and not that what Cicinho is...

Exactly, we already have Serginho doing that on the left, we don't need both sides of the defense to be that week.

I still would prefer Oddo, he is better in the defense but still likes to push up a lot, he is the best option for us

Why do you think Cicinho can't defend? Unlike Serghino, he is a pure RB. And it's not just me saying that, you can read it everywhere.

Cicinho is terrible at defending, that is why Cappello wants to get rid of him, because since he doesn't use the full backs that much to push up because he playes with wingers he doesn't need him but would prefer a RB that is more defensive.

Really? Ah, well, I would still prefer him over Oddo anyday.

Why is that? Oddo might not attack as much as him, but he is a great defender and can still push up when needed, I think he has just the right combination that a RB should have, Cicinho is way too attack minded and sometimes forgets that his job is to defend as well

I don't know, I like Cicinho a lot. Since I first saw in the Confederations Cup in 2005 he has become one of my favourite wingbacks. He reminds me of Cafu a lot. Oddo is good, I'm not saying that he's a bad player or that we don't need him, but as I said before, I would pick Cicinho over him anyday.

I know he is good but I just think that he leaves the back open a lot, I'm just saying that if we get him over Oddo (I don't even think that they will get Oddo to tell you the truth) we should not play serginho also, Janku is another LB that has the right combination, he is good at defending but is good at pushing up when needed.

Because to have both Cicinho and Serginho as fullbacks would be plain suicide.

so what!!???


hmm ... let's say because he CAN'T defend!!!! is that a good enough explanation for you??


oh my ... that would make me cry!!!! my lovely defense


I don't agree with Capello though. I mean ... hell yeah you can get through him anytime you want but that doesn't mean the kid ain't got potential ... who is he going to play at RB!!!??? Ramos???

I think Real will try to get another defender in. Cappello's always been one that liked to have a strong defense, his motto has always been conceede none score 1.

And I'm afraid that the defender Real want to bring in is Chivu.

So let's dance Coco Jamboo!



I'm not so sure about that. It's natural that his priority is to attack, but if he is asked to defend, I think he can do it no problem.

just show me the steps, I'm a natural!!!!


well if he's asked to he'll be in the defence ... but there's some huge steps up some levels to learn how to defend!!!
as I said before if he has the potential to do so ... he will sure learn that from such players as Cafu, Maldini, Nesta, Kaladze ( HA HA I'm good!!! ), ...

if he can't then he's a winger ... like Serginho!!! simple as that!!!

Salgado? No...hmm...

Anyway guys, relax a bit, cause Milan ain`t gonna get Chivu, Cicinho, Gallas or Oddo. We are well covered, so let does players change to our opponents. I`m sure the 35 year old Serginho, the 36 old Cafu, 38 old Paolo and well our fresh 40 year old youngster Costacurta roll once more - our four defenders have all together 149 years. And be aware we also have Simic, Favalli,...!

Now for serious...it`s over I think. No more defenders, no more attackers will come...

I believe this is b/s. Why Capello wouldn't like the best RB in the world, and still young?

Chivu is not an RB!!!???


you're joking again!!!! the best RB in the world???? the guy can't even take the ball away from ME for God's sake!!!!! he's just another over hyped Brazilian.
Alves is some billion times better!!!!!!!!!!!

Well Cappello said that he wanted to get another CB, and Chivu fits the bill. I don't know who they have in mind for the RB position. or maybe all this Cicinho talk id pure BS and just another fabrication from the Spanish media.

But I'm pretty sure that Cappello wants another CB and they are going after Chivu

Again Cicinho is young and a great player who could adapt. We seem to like old defenders though.

I'd say get him but theres a 90% chance Milan won't.

I think Don Silvio is still in dream land thinking about Ronaldoinho.

What you said IS serious. It's a serious issue that demands serious attention.

Yes, it is a very serious issue...and I`ve done some minor calculations, just like I did (and warned about it) at last season`s end - our 11 defenders (Dida, Kalac, Simic, Kaladze, Favalli, Serginho, Maldini, Costacurta, Nesta, Bonera and Cafu) have all together 364 years, or better the average age of our defense is about 33! I only have to say...GOOD LORD, please send down a young one!?

dst ur as bad as Galliani...u need 30 year olds too...I guess it's coz u know that by the time Oddo needs to retire, you won't have any competition to walk into that team...but with Cicinho hmm..things ain't so rosy now huh??

Personally I think Cicinho is young..and he can learn easily...if Pirlo defensive abilities can go up in leaps and bounds, I hardly doubt the abilities of Cicinho, what I mean to say is...sure Oddo is tried and tested, but Cicinho is definitely the man for the future, he'll learn all about defense, he's got Cafu and I'm sure they'll get along just fine...

Besides I think it is a team that does not have wingers in MF that needs wingbacks the most, esp with the attack we've got we'll need all the offensive push we can get, our central defense will be fine once, Kala, Nesta and Paolo are back. Billy also seems to have a sudden boost in standards when he is with them...

So dst, for once, not what u said...get Cicinho...

Every real game I have watched I have thought that Cicinho is absolutely awful and it seems Don Fabio agrees with me. He is nowhere near good enough for Milan. Oddo on the other hand is a decent defender with Serie A experience but his main downfall is his age, IMO he would be the better buy though.

if we got cicinho it would be great. he would fit right in with cafu, serginho, kaka, amoroso, and dida and im sure he would be willing to learn anything he can from brasilian legend cafu

We can forget about Cicinho and everyone else with this idiotic board of ours... but let's wait until the market is over, yeah, let's wait and have some cakes.

I say there's a 100% chance Milan don't even know he's (supposed to be) available!!!


man there's Alves and Nelson out there and you want Cicinho!!!????
I'm sure he can learn and I'd love to have him in Milan but we just can't afford to have two flank backs that can't defend!!!!! don't you see it?? do you want us to concede a billion goals just for Cicinho to learn how to defend?? I say no thanks!!! Bring Oddo in ... we need some defensive stability at last no need to make things worse ...

Oh and ... Cicinho won't come. Neither will Oddo!!!! this is all bullsh1t ... the worst transfer period for Milan as far back as I can remember!!!!



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Totally right, the only way that could work for us if we get Cicinho and want to play both him and Serginho is to have them as wing backs in a 3-4-1-2 formation, other then that those 2 as full backs (and I'm repeating myself here) is pure suicide. There would be so much space that those 2 would leave behind at the back that not even Nesta and an in his prime Maldini would be able to cover.



again dst trying to hit me where it hurts the most

Would be a great sign in, i hope milan take him

Your right man. It makes me really mad because there are so many players with great potential that will bend over backwards to come to us but who have we signed? Oh yes we were close to signing so many but we got squat.

IMO, I don't like a 30yo def. Maybe this season he is still good but we need to replace him soon. You can see how hard Milan change the old blood by a young one.

Cicinho may be bad at def but if Ance wants him to def more, he will stay back more, don't worry. However, remember how R.Carlos dishonoured both Beck and Neuville when Real killed MU with only his attacking skill.

Many people think the best way to defend is to attack.

maldini in his prime was a god, there isnt anyone he couldnt stop

Come on.. give him a chance, if you were looking forward to give a chance to oliveira and the is coming from an injurie, at least cicinho played quite some games for real , and he is quite deffensive, also cafu is not that deffensive.. so we could use him , i mena at this pion i dont care how's player will milan sign, until now now it has been a very crappy sing in summer, i have no hope to see a new crack this season.

Belive me we had some flops in the past...remember that dreadfull Alaves duo Contra-Javi Moreno? Or players like Reizinger, Kluivert, Bogarde, Guly, N`Gotty, Ba (I`v allways liked him...),West, Cardone, etc. So this season we got a bunch of that kind of (short term) players. It`s allways that one, even two transitial years that take time...Of course, back then, beside those mentioned transfers we also gained some great players, this season...no. But then again this season is the Calciopoli one. Maybe Milan is still under pressure with that burden, and they deliberately want to stay out of the ramplights this season, so that no one complains? I don`t know whats going on but, we`ll fix this problem just like we did every time...

at least back then they tried to bring some players in ... this year we only got some youngsters (at last and if Foggia stays cause it'll be youngster otherwise) and 'ffanculli!!!!

As I said, maybe we are sacrificeing this season in order for a magnificent Milan ressurection in 2007. Maybe we are preparing the ground (only that Favalli, Brocchi, etc. are not a stable ground ) for a gloryfull future.

I really cannot accept that nothing is behind all that. I mean our board exists for several years, decades, and I cannot remember the time they acted so strange, unreasonable? I assume there must be a reason, something must be behind of this all..!!!!

Thank You!!!!
you actually got me all thinking and gave me a reason to leave right there!!!!
there must be something behind this all ... probably Gaucho but still ... even Ronaldinho wouldn't make a great team on his own.we need more reinforcements!!!

I have a hope now ...

That`s the spirit I like...that we need here at Milan