A.C. MILAN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
8/25/2006
A.C. MILAN have announced that the negotiations regarding the possible transfer of Ronaldo must be considered definitely finished.
Full Version: Official AC Milan abandon Ronaldo
good, nothing more
... and we're buying Tevez!!!??? Nah. 
Why not a pack of Tevez and Mascherano?
This would be great!!!
This would be great!!!
This is getting bloody ridiculous.. we've qualified for the champions league and got an insanely easy group. Still nothing has happened in strengthening our squad. Which I wish was the case.. but we need players for the starting 11 if we plan to be competitive against the best.
OMG I'm so pissed right now.. 6 days left and realistically its unlikely were going to sign three players.
Ronaldo - officially over
Gallas - most likely go to arsenal for cole
Teves - attitude problems concern me
Buffon - pledged to stay with juve
Torres - take a miracle
Does not leave us much..
OMG I'm so pissed right now.. 6 days left and realistically its unlikely were going to sign three players.
Ronaldo - officially over
Gallas - most likely go to arsenal for cole
Teves - attitude problems concern me
Buffon - pledged to stay with juve
Torres - take a miracle
Does not leave us much..
That's good news. 
Now, 6 days left.
Now, 6 days left.
Whay about Sobis? He is not officially announced at Santander.
We should try to get him...
We should try to get him...
why?? why???? you cheap bastardz
com on trevz bring him on milan and oddo and galles, then we will be smileing
Plenty of time....
milan will get henry as surprise
QUOTE (dimival @ Aug 25 2006, 02:51 PM)
Why not a pack of Tevez and Mascherano?
This would be great!!!
This would be great!!!
That would be more than great but do Milan want them. Even Mascherano alone would be great if we're going to play the Xtree!!!
QUOTE (arivanjj @ Aug 25 2006, 03:26 PM)
why?? why???? you cheap bastardzit's funny cause you mean it!!!!
if it was Portugal's message I'd be laughing but I know you really wanted him!!!
QUOTE (scarecrow @ Aug 25 2006, 04:26 PM)
milan will get henry as surprise
Milan will only be getting a big fat d!ck and no it won't be a surprise!!!!
QUOTE
Berlusconi 'Non compreremo Ronaldo'. Rossoneri stanno per chiudere con Oliveira
15:40 del 25 agosto
15.39 Silvio Berlusconi, presidente del Milan, rispondendo ai cronisti al Meeting di Rimini ha affermato categorico: ''No, non compreremo Ronaldo, la partita e' chiusa''
14.00 "L'A.C.Milan comunica che la trattativa per il possibile trasferimento di Ronaldo deve considerarsi definitivamentre tramontata". Con questo breve comunicato, pubblicato sul sito ufficiale del club rossonero, si chiude la telenovela riguardante il fuoriclasse del Real Madrid, nel mirino del Milan. Del resto, era stato lo stesso direttore sportivo delle 'merengues', Predrag Mijatovic, a sottolineare: "Noi non vogliamo vendere Ronaldo, con il Milan stiamo trattando soltanto per rispetto nei confronti di una grande società ".
In mattinata era stato il sito internet del canale televisivo brasiliano 'Globo' a pubblicare la notizia secondo cui l'accordo per il trasferimento dell'attaccante ai rossoneri sarebbe stato presto siglato, con un contratto quinquennale per Ronaldo.
Intanto, la dirigenza rossonera è rimasta in Spagna per trattare l'acquisto dell'attaccante Ricardo Oliveira del Betis Siviglia. La trattativa in essere è stata confermata dalla società iberica. Dopo un'iniziale distanza, a livello economico, tra i due club (18 milioni di euro la richiesta del Betis, 10 l'offerta dei rossoneri), ora sembra che il gap si stia colmando, al punto che, secondo le ultime voci, Milan e Betis starebbero per chiudere l'affare.
13.40 Nel frattempo giunge una precisazione dal sito ufficiale del Milan sull'obiettivo dei contatti tra i dirigenti Braida e Galliani e quelli del Real Madrid:
"In relazione ad alcune notizie apparse su qualche quotidiano, l'A.C. Milan precisa che il suo Amministratore Delegato Adriano Galliani si è recato a Madrid perchè invitato ad assistere al Trofeo Santiago Bernabeu dal Presidente del Real Madrid Ramon Calderon. Il predetto invito rappresentava lo strumento attraverso il quale comporre, come si è in effetti composta, la controversia insorta tra l'A.C Milan e il Real Madrid in relazione alla nota vicenda attinente contatti con il calciatore Kakà . Ogni diversa interpretazione della presenza di Adriano Galliani in quel Paese non è dunque corretta: egli non ha infatti svolto, nè intende svolgere fino a che la pur ingiusta sanzione di inibizione avrà efficacia, alcuna operazione di cosiddetto mercato, nè altra attività che possa costituire inadempimento alle limitazioni impostegli in conseguenza della sanzione predetta, cui egli desidera dare piena esecuzione anche per rispetto istituzionale delle regole. In particolare, tutte le trattative di mercato dell'A.C. Milan sono state poste in essere, sia sotto il profilo formale, sia sotto il profilo sostanziale, dal Direttore Generale Ariedo Braida".
08,50 Sarà il patron nerazzurro a poter dire l'ultima parola sulla cessione di Ronaldo ai rossoneri. Quattro anni fa infatti in occasione della cessione al Real, il club di via Durini pretese e ottenne che qualora Ronaldo fosse un giorno stato venduto ad un'altra squadra, l'Inter avrebbe avuto la facoltà di pareggiare l'offerta. Ecco dunque che Moratti vive la trattativa tra il Real e Milan con sufficiente tranquillità .
Ecco la cronaca di ieri sull'affaire Ronaldo:
20.20 Dell'affare Ronaldo si è parlato anche in occasione del sorteggio di Champions League a Montecarlo. Il punto della situazione lo ha fatto Pedrag Mijatovic, responsabile di mercato del Real: ''Non abbiamo trovato l'accordo con il Milan - ha detto - siamo abbastanza lontani in questo momento ma non posso dire cosa può succedere fino al 31 agosto. Io ora sono qui, ma domani sarò di nuovo a Madrid e so che Galliani e Braida sono rimasti lì''.
19.01 Adriano Galliani ha pranzato oggi con Roberto Assis, fratello e agente di Ronaldinho. Nessuna trattativa per il fuoriclasse del Barca, eletto oggi miglior giocatore della passata edizione della Champions League. Pare, infatti, che durante l'incontro si sia parlato di Ricardo Oliveira, punta brasiliana del Betis Siviglia.
Un primo approccio, che potrebbe essere approfondito se saltasse definitivamente la trattativa Ronaldo.
16.02 Un portavoce del Real Madrid ha confermato che il club spagnolo e il Milan sono lontani da un accordo per Ronaldo: ''C'è troppa differenza tra i due club. Al momento le posizioni sono troppo distanti''.
14.20 Galliani al termine della riunione di questa notte, ai microfoni di sky ha fatto il punto sulla trattativa Ronaldo-Milan: "La riunione è stata breve e quando è così, non è mai positivo. C'è troppa distanza fra domanda e offerta".
Alla riunione negli uffici del Real Madrid, che è durata 40 minuti, non c'era Calderon. Presenti solo Galliani, Braida e Mijatovic. Intanto, le due parti sono di nuovo in riunione dalle 10 di questa mattina.
10.00 Secondo due periodici sportivi spagnoli, il trasferimento di Ronaldo dal Real Madrid al Milan si starebbe bloccando. Dopo la riunione che si è tenuta stanotte tra Adriano Galliani, amministratore delegato del Milan, Ramon Calderon, presidente del Real Madrid, e altri vertici delle due squadre, sembra che la trattativa si sia conclusa per ora con un nulla di fatto. Il Real non sarebbe più disposto a cedere Ronaldo perché il Milan non avrebbe intenzione né di cedere Kakà in cambio, né di sborsare 30 milioni di euro per l'acquisto del bomber. Marca rivela che i rossoneri hanno offerto 22 milioni di euro, tre in meno rispetto a quanto richiesto.
15:40 del 25 agosto
15.39 Silvio Berlusconi, presidente del Milan, rispondendo ai cronisti al Meeting di Rimini ha affermato categorico: ''No, non compreremo Ronaldo, la partita e' chiusa''
14.00 "L'A.C.Milan comunica che la trattativa per il possibile trasferimento di Ronaldo deve considerarsi definitivamentre tramontata". Con questo breve comunicato, pubblicato sul sito ufficiale del club rossonero, si chiude la telenovela riguardante il fuoriclasse del Real Madrid, nel mirino del Milan. Del resto, era stato lo stesso direttore sportivo delle 'merengues', Predrag Mijatovic, a sottolineare: "Noi non vogliamo vendere Ronaldo, con il Milan stiamo trattando soltanto per rispetto nei confronti di una grande società ".
In mattinata era stato il sito internet del canale televisivo brasiliano 'Globo' a pubblicare la notizia secondo cui l'accordo per il trasferimento dell'attaccante ai rossoneri sarebbe stato presto siglato, con un contratto quinquennale per Ronaldo.
Intanto, la dirigenza rossonera è rimasta in Spagna per trattare l'acquisto dell'attaccante Ricardo Oliveira del Betis Siviglia. La trattativa in essere è stata confermata dalla società iberica. Dopo un'iniziale distanza, a livello economico, tra i due club (18 milioni di euro la richiesta del Betis, 10 l'offerta dei rossoneri), ora sembra che il gap si stia colmando, al punto che, secondo le ultime voci, Milan e Betis starebbero per chiudere l'affare.
13.40 Nel frattempo giunge una precisazione dal sito ufficiale del Milan sull'obiettivo dei contatti tra i dirigenti Braida e Galliani e quelli del Real Madrid:
"In relazione ad alcune notizie apparse su qualche quotidiano, l'A.C. Milan precisa che il suo Amministratore Delegato Adriano Galliani si è recato a Madrid perchè invitato ad assistere al Trofeo Santiago Bernabeu dal Presidente del Real Madrid Ramon Calderon. Il predetto invito rappresentava lo strumento attraverso il quale comporre, come si è in effetti composta, la controversia insorta tra l'A.C Milan e il Real Madrid in relazione alla nota vicenda attinente contatti con il calciatore Kakà . Ogni diversa interpretazione della presenza di Adriano Galliani in quel Paese non è dunque corretta: egli non ha infatti svolto, nè intende svolgere fino a che la pur ingiusta sanzione di inibizione avrà efficacia, alcuna operazione di cosiddetto mercato, nè altra attività che possa costituire inadempimento alle limitazioni impostegli in conseguenza della sanzione predetta, cui egli desidera dare piena esecuzione anche per rispetto istituzionale delle regole. In particolare, tutte le trattative di mercato dell'A.C. Milan sono state poste in essere, sia sotto il profilo formale, sia sotto il profilo sostanziale, dal Direttore Generale Ariedo Braida".
08,50 Sarà il patron nerazzurro a poter dire l'ultima parola sulla cessione di Ronaldo ai rossoneri. Quattro anni fa infatti in occasione della cessione al Real, il club di via Durini pretese e ottenne che qualora Ronaldo fosse un giorno stato venduto ad un'altra squadra, l'Inter avrebbe avuto la facoltà di pareggiare l'offerta. Ecco dunque che Moratti vive la trattativa tra il Real e Milan con sufficiente tranquillità .
Ecco la cronaca di ieri sull'affaire Ronaldo:
20.20 Dell'affare Ronaldo si è parlato anche in occasione del sorteggio di Champions League a Montecarlo. Il punto della situazione lo ha fatto Pedrag Mijatovic, responsabile di mercato del Real: ''Non abbiamo trovato l'accordo con il Milan - ha detto - siamo abbastanza lontani in questo momento ma non posso dire cosa può succedere fino al 31 agosto. Io ora sono qui, ma domani sarò di nuovo a Madrid e so che Galliani e Braida sono rimasti lì''.
19.01 Adriano Galliani ha pranzato oggi con Roberto Assis, fratello e agente di Ronaldinho. Nessuna trattativa per il fuoriclasse del Barca, eletto oggi miglior giocatore della passata edizione della Champions League. Pare, infatti, che durante l'incontro si sia parlato di Ricardo Oliveira, punta brasiliana del Betis Siviglia.
Un primo approccio, che potrebbe essere approfondito se saltasse definitivamente la trattativa Ronaldo.
16.02 Un portavoce del Real Madrid ha confermato che il club spagnolo e il Milan sono lontani da un accordo per Ronaldo: ''C'è troppa differenza tra i due club. Al momento le posizioni sono troppo distanti''.
14.20 Galliani al termine della riunione di questa notte, ai microfoni di sky ha fatto il punto sulla trattativa Ronaldo-Milan: "La riunione è stata breve e quando è così, non è mai positivo. C'è troppa distanza fra domanda e offerta".
Alla riunione negli uffici del Real Madrid, che è durata 40 minuti, non c'era Calderon. Presenti solo Galliani, Braida e Mijatovic. Intanto, le due parti sono di nuovo in riunione dalle 10 di questa mattina.
10.00 Secondo due periodici sportivi spagnoli, il trasferimento di Ronaldo dal Real Madrid al Milan si starebbe bloccando. Dopo la riunione che si è tenuta stanotte tra Adriano Galliani, amministratore delegato del Milan, Ramon Calderon, presidente del Real Madrid, e altri vertici delle due squadre, sembra che la trattativa si sia conclusa per ora con un nulla di fatto. Il Real non sarebbe più disposto a cedere Ronaldo perché il Milan non avrebbe intenzione né di cedere Kakà in cambio, né di sborsare 30 milioni di euro per l'acquisto del bomber. Marca rivela che i rossoneri hanno offerto 22 milioni di euro, tre in meno rispetto a quanto richiesto.
Can the official Milanfan.com translaters work on this please. Does it mean that we are going for that Oliveira guy? If so I think that we are getting more desperate by the minute
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 25 2006, 02:40 PM)
That would be more than great but do Milan want them. Even Mascherano alone would be great if we're going to play the Xtree!!!
it's funny cause you mean it!!!!
if it was Portugal's message I'd be laughing but I know you really wanted him!!!
Milan will only be getting a big fat d!ck and no it won't be a surprise!!!!
it's funny cause you mean it!!!!
if it was Portugal's message I'd be laughing but I know you really wanted him!!!
Milan will only be getting a big fat d!ck and no it won't be a surprise!!!!
Regarding to the clubs attitude, we won`t play the Xtree. But I think we should concentrate now on some other possible deals - Gallas for the first. And then why not Drogba, Adriano even Robinho. In my opinion they are all equal or better to Tevez? And I said this a few times - Tevez is looking for and England move. It`s most unlike he`ll join us. But I still belive we will sign someone the fan pressure is so tightening that now, it could just be anyone. Maybe Boban and Weah will step out from retirement to help up our desperate situation. But really, we are all acting a bit greedy and avaricious. It`s not the end of the world when we stay like we are now, I mean our team. We have plenty of great players, and I`ve seen many clubs with even less quality winning titles.
I allways chear for a proper, reasonable and premeditated move, transfer action. If this cannot be established then we should let it down.
Milan end Ronaldo chase
Milan have failed in their attempt to sign Real Madrid striker Ronaldo, the Italian club have confirmed on Friday.
“Milan would like to communicate that negotiations over Ronaldo’s possible transfer should now be considered as definitely over,†a note on their website stated.
The two clubs have been in talks over the Brazilian for the last few days, but no compromise could be reached regarding a fee.
This afternoon’s development comes just hours after Brazilian newspaper Globo reported that an agreement had been found with the player.
They claimed that the international had accepted a five-year contract which would allow him to maintain control of his image rights.
However, the Via Turati club now seem to have definitely put the Ronaldo option behind them and are considering alternative options.
The next name on Milan’s shortlist is Betis Seville striker Ricardo Oliveira and reports in Spain suggest that a £6.7m offer has already been made.
The player has just returned after a loan spell with Sao Paulo and was handed a £700,000 fine, having prolonged his stay in Brazil by nine days without being authorised by the Spanish club.
On the other hand, Inter may try to take advantage of the situation and the Spanish newspaper AS suggests they have proposed a swap deal with Real Madrid for Ronaldo involving Adriano.
But Inter technical director Lele Oriali has denied such a scenario developing, saying the Nerazzurri are not interested in their former striker.
“This is pure fantasy, we are happy with the players we have and we are sure that Adriano will have a good season,†he said.
“If we had been interested in Ronaldo we would have made an offer.â€
Milan have failed in their attempt to sign Real Madrid striker Ronaldo, the Italian club have confirmed on Friday.
“Milan would like to communicate that negotiations over Ronaldo’s possible transfer should now be considered as definitely over,†a note on their website stated.
The two clubs have been in talks over the Brazilian for the last few days, but no compromise could be reached regarding a fee.
This afternoon’s development comes just hours after Brazilian newspaper Globo reported that an agreement had been found with the player.
They claimed that the international had accepted a five-year contract which would allow him to maintain control of his image rights.
However, the Via Turati club now seem to have definitely put the Ronaldo option behind them and are considering alternative options.
The next name on Milan’s shortlist is Betis Seville striker Ricardo Oliveira and reports in Spain suggest that a £6.7m offer has already been made.
The player has just returned after a loan spell with Sao Paulo and was handed a £700,000 fine, having prolonged his stay in Brazil by nine days without being authorised by the Spanish club.
On the other hand, Inter may try to take advantage of the situation and the Spanish newspaper AS suggests they have proposed a swap deal with Real Madrid for Ronaldo involving Adriano.
But Inter technical director Lele Oriali has denied such a scenario developing, saying the Nerazzurri are not interested in their former striker.
“This is pure fantasy, we are happy with the players we have and we are sure that Adriano will have a good season,†he said.
“If we had been interested in Ronaldo we would have made an offer.â€
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 25 2006, 04:55 PM)
We have plenty of great players, and I`ve seen many clubs with even less quality winning titles.
I want to win because I'm the best not because I was lucky ...
Inter will never sell Adriano to Milan.Real likwise. Mourinho would only let Drogba go if he had Tevez or someone else ...
Since Oliveira seems to be the newest player that is being linked to us I looked him up on youtube. These are a few goals that I found
Oliveira 1
Oliveira 2
Oliveira 3
Oliveira 4
And some people that watch La Liga regularly say that he is good and is preety much a goal machine. I don't know if he will work out for us or if they are really interested in him.
And some are saying that he is coming to Milan for a medical today. So who knows what will happen, this might just turn out to be another Sobis rerun
Oliveira 1
Oliveira 2
Oliveira 3
Oliveira 4
And some people that watch La Liga regularly say that he is good and is preety much a goal machine. I don't know if he will work out for us or if they are really interested in him.
And some are saying that he is coming to Milan for a medical today. So who knows what will happen, this might just turn out to be another Sobis rerun
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 25 2006, 04:54 PM)
Can the official Milanfan.com translaters work on this please. Does it mean that we are going for that Oliveira guy? If so I think that we are getting more desperate by the minute
it says what we've read through FI and the official site. Milan have met with Roberto Assis (Ronaldinho's brother and manager) to discuss only about Oliveira (not that they would know if they talked about Ronaldinho) and Milan are willing to offer 10m EUR while Betis want 18m EUR but this will probably be sortened out. Inter also seem to have an option to block Ronaldo's move and they would probably do it if Real and Milan had agreed on a deal ... filthy that is but I wouldn't expect more from such losers ...
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 25 2006, 02:13 PM)
it says what we've read through FI and the official site. Milan have met with Roberto Assis (Ronaldinho's brother and manager) to discuss only about Oliveira (not that they would know if they talked about Ronaldinho) and Milan are willing to offer 10m EUR while Betis want 18m EUR but this will probably be sortened out. Inter also seem to have an option to block Ronaldo's move and they would probably do it if Real and Milan had agreed on a deal ... filthy that is but I wouldn't expect more from such losers ...
What??!!! How the hell could they have done that??
Oh and thanks for the translations
well I've seen the kid before and he certainly didn't do all that "Youtube Magic" ...
he certainly has a great speed and an equally beatiful finish though.
the first goal han posted is a perfectly taken shot!!!
he certainly has a great speed and an equally beatiful finish though.
the first goal han posted is a perfectly taken shot!!!
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 25 2006, 05:17 PM)
What??!!! How the hell could they have done that??
I have heard of it before ... it's something like a clause on the contract of the player or something ... I wouldn't know
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 25 2006, 02:20 PM)
well I've seen the kid before and he certainly didn't do all that "Youtube Magic" ...
he certainly has a great speed and an equally beatiful finish though.
the first goal han posted is a perfectly taken shot!!!
he certainly has a great speed and an equally beatiful finish though.
the first goal han posted is a perfectly taken shot!!!
Since you've seen him play before, tell us, can he dribble past defenders and make assists?
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 25 2006, 03:03 PM)
I want to win because I'm the best not because I was lucky ...
Seedorf, Pirlo, Pippo & Co. are the best! It certainly would not be luck, if you belive in luck (I don`t, but that doesn`t matter...)
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 25 2006, 05:23 PM)
Since you've seen him play before, tell us, can he dribble past defenders and make assists?
well I've only seen him play twice ... he can do what you want but that was the La Liga you know ... in Serie A it just itsn't the same. But he has good passing skills, don't know if he can take through balls though ...
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 25 2006, 05:32 PM)
Seedorf, Pirlo, Pippo & Co. are the best! It certainly would not be luck, if you belive in luck (I don`t, but that doesn`t matter...)
you don't believe in luck??? Liverpool and Porto won the CL what else do you need???
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 25 2006, 03:36 PM)
you don't believe in luck??? Liverpool and Porto won the CL what else do you need???
No, that wasn`t luck. Red Star won in 1991 on penalties. Wasn`t luck either...penalty shootouts then again maybe, but also not
I know Ricardo Oliveira from Betis and Sao Paulo matches.
He's good. Quick, can drible, pass, assist, shot, etc. But... to replace Shevchenko?
In 1 to 20, if Sheva is 20, I'll give Oliveira a 15. Tevez 19 and Sobis 16.
He's good. Quick, can drible, pass, assist, shot, etc. But... to replace Shevchenko?
In 1 to 20, if Sheva is 20, I'll give Oliveira a 15. Tevez 19 and Sobis 16.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 25 2006, 05:41 PM)
No, that wasn`t luck. Red Star won in 1991 on penalties. Wasn`t luck either...penalty shootouts then again maybe, but also not
Red Star had a great team back then ... when you win with players that next season are not even good for you then this is luck. Anyway we disagree again!!!!
well Tevez is definetely not that close to Shvechenko nor are the others. If you give Sheva a 40 then the rest are OK with me!!! 
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 25 2006, 02:49 PM)
well Tevez is definetely not that close to Shvechenko nor are the others. If you give Sheva a 40 then the rest are OK with me!!!
I'm looking at the age. It's obvious you can't compare a 22 yo to a 30.
QUOTE (Portugal @ Aug 25 2006, 05:51 PM)
I'm looking at the age. It's obvious you can't compare a 22 yo to a 30.
you mean that Tevez will be a 19 when he's 30 or are you counting those players' value???
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 25 2006, 03:47 PM)
Red Star had a great team back then ... when you win with players that next season are not even good for you then this is luck. Anyway we disagree again!!!!
Red Star: Prosinecki, Savicevic & Belodedici (better than OM?)
Porto: Deco and Mourinho
Liverpool: Gerrard, Alonso & Benitez
All teams had some undisputable qualities. Only the best players are able to repeat their best performances again and again. But a winning team is not only constructed with the best players, it takes far more. I just wanna say that, if we would win the CL or SA with the present team, i would not be luck.
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 25 2006, 02:56 PM)
you mean that Tevez will be a 19 when he's 30 or are you counting those players' value???
He'll reach that value in 4-5 years, I believe. The best age for fowards it's 27-28.
Same for Sobis.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 25 2006, 02:41 PM)
No, that wasn`t luck. Red Star won in 1991 on penalties. Wasn`t luck either...penalty shootouts then again maybe, but also not
You don't consider Liverpool's win lucky???? They managed to get 3 goals in six minutes, one of them was a dive by gerrard to get the penalty but they still got it, Sheva had a perfectly good goal disallowed and we missed a dozen sitters. Then they win on penalties, if that isn't luck I don't know what is.
And Porto I don't consider that lucky that year was a bit of a joke, the small teams made it to the semi finals and to the final.
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 25 2006, 03:00 PM)
Red Star: Prosinecki, Savicevic & Belodedici (better than OM?)
Porto: Deco and Mourinho
Liverpool: Gerrard, Alonso & Benitez
All teams had some undisputable qualities. Only the best players are able to repeat their best performances again and again. But a winning team is not only constructed with the best players, it takes far more. I just wanna say that, if we would win the CL or SA with the present team, i would not be luck.
Porto: Deco and Mourinho
Liverpool: Gerrard, Alonso & Benitez
All teams had some undisputable qualities. Only the best players are able to repeat their best performances again and again. But a winning team is not only constructed with the best players, it takes far more. I just wanna say that, if we would win the CL or SA with the present team, i would not be luck.
No it won't be lucky, if our players want it and play well then we have a strong enough team to win both competitions even if we don't get a striker.
I myself consider someone lucky bvy the way they won the competition, if it was by a miraculous manner ie. Liverpool then I consider them lucky. If the team worked hard enough and wanted it enough and won it, even if they didn't have a team filled with super stars I wouldn't call them lucky
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 25 2006, 04:04 PM)
You don't consider Liverpool's win lucky???? They managed to get 3 goals in six minutes, one of them was a dive by gerrard to get the penalty but they still got it, Sheva had a perfectly good goal disallowed and we missed a dozen sitters. Then they win on penalties, if that isn't luck I don't know what is.
I just told I don`t belive in luck at all. Maybe it was gods will, or the cosmic constellation. Maybe Milan should have thought about defense...it was so typicall English to reduce a 3-0 lead to 3-3. When the first goal happened, I knew the others will come. Then we, had some chances, but did not used them. And then a chatastrophic penalty display without the needed concentration
. [SIZE=7]F@ck, this looks like I am a Liverpool fan...[SIZE=1]sorry... 
QUOTE (dst @ Aug 25 2006, 02:35 PM)
well I've only seen him play twice ... he can do what you want but that was the La Liga you know ... in Serie A it just itsn't the same. But he has good passing skills, don't know if he can take through balls though ...
Yeah that's what concerns me with any striker we bring in, especially if they are from spain, and I think that is why they where going for Ronaldo since he is proven in Serie A already, I don't think that they want to take that much of a risk, since if the player they buy now won't work out, we'l get stuck with him
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 25 2006, 03:11 PM)
I just told I don`t belive in luck at all. Maybe it was gods will, or the cosmic constellation. Maybe Milan should have thought about defense...it was so typicall English to reduce a 3-0 lead to 3-3. When the first goal happened, I knew the others will come. Then we, had some chances, but did not used them. And then a chatastrophic penalty display without the needed concentration . [SIZE=7]F@ck, this looks like I am a Liverpool fan...[SIZE=1]sorry...
. [SIZE=7]F@ck, this looks like I am a Liverpool fan...[SIZE=1]sorry... When I was mwatching that match I had that feeling too, I don't know why, I guess I was right
I had seen Liverpool coming from behind a couple of times already in that CL, and yes it I think that it was meant to be that they won it, it seems that way if you watch how they got to the final, it was definately in miraculous sircumstances. I know we had our luck in that PSV game, but they managed to get by miracyulously on too many occasions, it just wasn't meant to be for us to win it
But I still believe that there are those who are lucky and those who are just cursed with bad luck
QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 25 2006, 04:18 PM)
But I still believe that there are those who are lucky and those who are just cursed with bad luck
[SIZE=14]Inter!!!
Guys, I don't know about you, but I'm happy that we're close to Oliveira. I like him a lot. I used to follow Betis' in 2004/2005 when they finished 4th and he along with JoaquÃn were my favourites. At least, he's miles better than Iaquinta or even Ronaldo IMO. Here's some info about him:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_Oliveira#Real_Betis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_Oliveira#Real_Betis
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 25 2006, 06:00 PM)
All teams had some undisputable qualities. Only the best players are able to repeat their best performances again and again. But a winning team is not only constructed with the best players, it takes far more. I just wanna say that, if we would win the CL or SA with the present team, i would not be luck.
when you win a competition based on such players as Dudek, Baros, Biscan and next season you don't even risk putting them in then it is f@cking luck or maybe,as you said, God wanted to give it back to them considering the Heyzel incident ... same difference; they didn't deserve it that's what I meant in the first place.
Unlike Inter fans I'd rather not win something that I deserve that win something that I do not deserve. That's just my opinion though ...
I'm not saying our current team does not deserve to win the CL!!!!!
Even if MILAN buys Oliveira i still think that they should transfer a better striker
QUOTE (fresh_prince7 @ Aug 25 2006, 07:07 AM)
Teves - attitude problems concern me
If the coach takes the capitan armband just because you are from a rival country, I´m sure you´ll get really pissed off.
QUOTE (felipe_el_chileno @ Aug 25 2006, 06:12 PM)
If the coach takes the capitan armband just because you are from a rival country, I´m sure you´ll get really pissed off.
Totally right, but we can stop talking about Tevez since we have our striker now.
All I wish now is that at least they sign another defender. Oddo or Gallas or even both
What han said...exactly what he said...
Good bye !
QUOTE (Denis_prishtina @ Aug 25 2006, 05:09 PM)
Good bye !
Kaka is a dirty man!!!
QUOTE (Denis_prishtina @ Aug 25 2006, 11:09 PM)
Good bye !
The only reason I would have thought that there was any possibility that Ronaldo could have worked out for us was his friendship with Kaka. I think he could have found new motivation with us, I guess we'll never know, but I am a little relieves about that
QUOTE (Denis_prishtina @ Aug 25 2006, 11:09 PM)
Good bye !
It's so sad....
QUOTE (Denis_prishtina @ Aug 26 2006, 12:09 AM)
Good bye !
That picture is so funny!
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