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gal_kenny
Schevchenko is better. He has collected so many awards. He's a legend. Sheva led ac milan to the final 2 seasons ago and to the semi finals last season and collected golden boot. He also led his country in the world cup and reached the quarter-final and was defeated to power house italy. To me i think Sheva is just a legend. SHEVA 4 LIFE!!! smile.gif
Portman
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Henry and Shevchenko are no Milan players... this thread should be moved.

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BTW: Personally, I can't say to you who's better... put if I had to pick 1... Sheva.
dst
well right now?? It's definetely Henry !!! He's playing much better at the moment!!

But overall you can't compare the two!!!Why???Because Sheva led Dynamo Kyiv in the CL last 4 when he was only 22 and has f@cked some many more big teams with Milan while Henry's first good year -in the CL- was last year, aged 28 .... FIRST great appearence for Henry in an important match was last year against Real in Madrid ........

HUGE difference!!!!!! When Henry could only score against West Brom, Sheva was killing Real ...
arivanjj
angry.gif i'm still burning inside, so henry is the man.
LaPalma
ATM, Henry is definetely better than this Ukrainian you're talking about. Don't forget dst, in the last 5 years in the Premier league he was the top scorer 4 times!!! I guess that's a point for him. And don't forget he always scored in the French team against other big teams... he's not one of the guys that can only score against small teams (hmm..Pauleta...). Look at his performance in the WC, he was awesome, he managed to take out every defence on his own, even Italys, and if there wouldn't have been Buffon, he'd definetely scored against Italy...
dst
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jul 18 2006, 04:05 PM)
ATM, Henry is definetely better than this Ukrainian you're talking about. Don't forget dst, in the last 5 years in the Premier league he was the top scorer 4 times!!! I guess that's a point for him. And don't forget he always scored in the French team against other big teams... he's not one of the guys that can only score against small teams (hmm..Pauleta...). Look at his performance in the WC, he was awesome, he managed to take out every defence on his own, even Italys, and if there wouldn't have been Buffon, he'd definetely scored against Italy...
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and what did I say???He NOW is a great striker ... but he's rarely played a good game against great teams in Premiership and he'd never done so with France before the WC...
I didn't say he isn't good but think about this: the last team on the table in Serie A has probably a better defence than most of them up there!!!!!! wink.gif
gal_kenny
[quote=dst,Jul 18 2006, 10:29 AM]
well right now?? It's definetely Henry !!! He's playing much better at the moment!!

But overall you can't compare the two!!!Why???Because Sheva led Dynamo Kyiv in the CL last 4 when he was only 22 and has f@cked some many more big teams with Milan while Henry's first good year -in the CL- was last year, aged 28 .... FIRST great appearence for Henry in an important match was last year against Real in Madrid ........

HUGE difference!!!!!! When Henry could only score against West Brom, Sheva was killing Real ...
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I disagree that Henry is playing better than Sheva. Up till date sheva is a legend.Sheva has made such a great name is serie A, the highest scorer in europe ever and has made history for ukraine while Henry is just known and made a name in england.According to what i read and when Sheva collected FIF PRO most feared and dangerous striker and it was voted by players themselves. So if the player's that play with him can say that who is Henry? If he was probably playing for france he would have benched Henry. smile.gif biggrin.gif
dudernahata
sheva is better. henry is good but sheva is a monster lol.
KillerMax
Sheva > Henry

"Nuff said.
YoungGun
I love Sheva most but IMO, they are the same level and top strikers, too. However, Sheva always plays better than Henry in a big-clash.

Henry have scored more because:
- PM attacking style vs Serie A defending style
- Arsenal often uses 1 striker when Milan often uses 2 (Biehorf - Sheva, Inzaghi - Sheva, Tomasson - Sheva, Crespo - Sheva, Gilardino - Sheva)
novfan
Sheva Sheva Sheva....
Although it will be interesting to see how he does in the EPL.

Think he'll shine?
monsterzZz
Sheva!
gal_kenny
QUOTE (novfan @ Jul 19 2006, 01:46 AM)
Sheva Sheva Sheva....
Although it will be interesting to see how he does in the EPL.

Think he'll shine?
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Sheva would shine in any league.After all he is the highest and most prolific striker in europe.Even tho ur left us but we still love u.Go do ur thang ma boi, SHEVA!!!
gal_kenny
QUOTE (novfan @ Jul 19 2006, 01:46 AM)
Sheva Sheva Sheva....
Although it will be interesting to see how he does in the EPL.

Think he'll shine?
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LaPalma
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 18 2006, 01:37 PM)
and what did I say???He NOW is a great striker ... but he's rarely played a good game against great teams in Premiership and he'd never done so with France before the WC...
I didn't say he isn't good but think about this: the last team on the table in Serie A has probably a better defence than most of them up there!!!!!! wink.gif
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A bit late for a reply but...
So you say beeing the top scorer in the Premier League is worth nothing? I know most of you guys think the premier league is a second class league compared to the Serie A, but you have to have in mind, that some of the most succesfull teams of the last years play in that league, so it can't be bad at all....
dst
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jul 19 2006, 03:33 PM)
A bit late for a reply but...
So you say beeing the top scorer in the Premier League is worth nothing? I know most of you guys think the premier league is a second class league compared to the Serie A, but you have to have in mind, that some of the most succesfull teams of the last years play in that league, so it can't be bad at all....
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NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
I didn't say this ...
I was clear from the beginning:
Right now Henry is playing much better.
Overall Sheva is definetely a better player than Henry since he's been great and crucial no matter his opponent for 8 years now.On the other hand, Henry had never been in Sheva's level until last season ...

Isn't that plain enough??? tongue.gif huh.gif

The thing is Henry will still play like he did last season till he wins the WC ... you can see that his will to win the 'Big Ear' motivates him to play better and better.On the contrary Sheva has kinda rested on his laurels since we won Jumerdus in the CL final; careful, ALL I'm saying is that he hasn't improved, he's been GREAT since 2003 ofcourse!!!
milan00047
Sheva i am sorry but he is a damn chelsea player.
And i always hated CHELSEA 'cause I am an ARSENAL fan as well.

Well there is no doubt that THIERRY IS KING HENRY.
He has been phenomenal in the last three years.
for heaven sake sheva is no charecter (for leaving his beloved MILAN.)
HENRY has scored 27 + 5 this season or if u may say the last season. and how much did sheva score.
also Henry scored crucial goals like the one against BRAZIL. and against REAL . while against Lyon when we needed goals sheva wasnt there till Clerk gifted him.

there are many points that can be disscussed here, if you souls wnated to that is.
KillerMax
QUOTE (milan00047 @ Jul 19 2006, 10:39 PM)
Sheva i am sorry but he is a damn chelsea player.
And i always hated CHELSEA 'cause I am an ARSENAL fan as well.

Well there is no doubt that THIERRY IS KING HENRY.
He has been phenomenal in the last three years.
for heaven sake sheva is no charecter (for leaving his beloved MILAN.)
HENRY has scored 27 + 5 this season or if u may say the last season. and how much did sheva score.
also Henry scored crucial goals like the one against BRAZIL. and against REAL . while against Lyon when we needed goals sheva wasnt there till Clerk gifted him.

there are many points that can be disscussed here, if you souls wnated to that is.
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I gotta go to bed right now, but I will take you on tomorrow. Henry is not even close to what Sheva is and represents.
dst
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jul 20 2006, 10:11 AM)
I gotta go to bed right now, but I will take you on tomorrow. Henry is not even close to what Sheva is and represents.
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For Buddha's sake what does Sheva represent, traitors worldwide????????????
YOUR LOVE FOR HIM HAS OBVIOUSLY BLINDED SOME OF YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a fact nobody can deny it because it's not just my opinion:
1)Henry is playing better right now
2)Sheva had been better than Henry is now for some years but he's just not what he used to be.
3)Henry will never be as good as Sheva was or achieve what he did!!! (well that's partly a fact tongue.gif )
Milan Are Brilliant
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jul 19 2006, 12:33 PM)
A bit late for a reply but...
So you say beeing the top scorer in the Premier League is worth nothing? I know most of you guys think the premier league is a second class league compared to the Serie A, but you have to have in mind, that some of the most succesfull teams of the last years play in that league, so it can't be bad at all....
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It is mate, people seem to not like the EPL here, no offence but it's true. It seems to be undermined all the time and overlooked, yet there were 2 English clubs in European finals last season, how many Italian ones???

Anyway back to point I would say this is one hell of a question I'd probably edge more towards Shevchenko at the moment though.
dst
I do like the EPL man, as a matter of fact I've watched most Arsenal games last year ...
But you can't deny that it's not the same when one scores let's say 20 goals in EPL compared to 20 goals in Serie A ...
Rossoneri7
Henry is better than Shevchenko

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Henry has a long way to go to leave his mark the way Sheva did..

Let me put it this way; I would rather have Sheva on my team than Henry
mallamkay
QUOTE (arivanjj @ Jul 18 2006, 01:04 PM)
angry.gif  i'm still burning inside, so henry is the man.
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removing anger, i will pick Sheva.
gal_kenny
QUOTE (milan00047 @ Jul 20 2006, 04:39 AM)
Sheva i am sorry but he is a damn chelsea player.
And i always hated CHELSEA 'cause I am an ARSENAL fan as well.

Well there is no doubt that THIERRY IS KING HENRY.
He has been phenomenal in the last three years.
for heaven sake sheva is no charecter (for leaving his beloved MILAN.)
HENRY has scored 27 + 5 this season or if u may say the last season. and how much did sheva score.
also Henry scored crucial goals like the one against BRAZIL. and against REAL . while against Lyon when we needed goals sheva wasnt there till Clerk gifted him.

there are many points that can be disscussed here, if you souls wnated to that is.
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Definitely not. Sheva is 110% times better than Henry. The players themselves

said he's the most deadly and feared striker in the world.Look at the champions

league. He's the highest scorer in europe ever and Henry did not even smell close

to him. Sheva anyday. Sheva leavin milan doesn't mean that Henry is better. This

even makes it more difficult for teams to beat chelsea. You may call it that

chelsea are almost unbeatable now. For God sake, the first time in Sheva's world

cup he led his country to the quarter finals with Brasil and other teams. If Milan

had met Arsenal in the finals who do u think would have won with Sheva and

henry in different teams. Of course Milan. Sheva had 9 gols last season in

champions league and 28 in serie A. Most of the time Sheva was injured and he

still proved that he's the best striker in the whole world now. I don't care what u

say but Sheva is better winning even European player of the year. Ronaldinho

won the world player 2yrs ago followed by Henry and then Sheva. But Sheva won

the European player of the year that same yr. For cryin out loud Henry didn't win

the wold player or even the european player. For Henry not winning the world

player. Henry lost the gold by being second and in the record book Second best

players aren't recognised. It is first for world and europe. So go Sheva ur the best.

KillerMax
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 20 2006, 01:58 AM)
For Buddha's sake what does Sheva represent, traitors worldwide????????????
YOUR LOVE FOR HIM HAS OBVIOUSLY BLINDED SOME OF YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a fact nobody can deny it because it's not just my opinion:
1)Henry is playing better right now
2)Sheva had been better than Henry is now for some years but he's just not what he used to be.
3)Henry will never be as good as Sheva was or achieve what he did!!! (well that's partly a fact  tongue.gif )
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I have great respect for Sheva and this has nothing to do with my love for him. I can never call Sheva a traitor as I will never know what the real reason was behind this sudden and unexpected move. Sheva was clearly having family trouble way before he admitted he was thinking about leaving. Barcelona v Milan was the breaking point for me. I knew something was wrong with him. he looked in pain. Not physically, but emotionally. We just have the accept what a great man he is and trust him. I believe he made the desicion beyond his own interests.

So now, technically speaking:
Why is Sheva better than Henry? Good question...

Sheva is an all around dangerous striker who can hit you anywhere at anytime. Whether it's in the box, in the air, freekick or long range. He doesn't over-do anything or play too much with the ball. he never tries to be fancy like Henry. Sheva is arguebly much stronger than Henry and also faster. The only thing Henry does better than Sheva is the fancy dribbles and foot work. But Sheva scores fancy goals without doing all that stuff. Sheva can play 90 minutes like no other. He never walks around on the pitch where he should be running while Henry get's too tired to continue in the mid second half.

Sheva is far more dangerous when it comes to high balls and long range shots. Henry can't even compare.

Sheva is the best goalscorer in Europe and scoreda lot more than Henry in the CL while he played a lot less.

Whoever says that Henry is playing better than Sheva right now doens't know what he/she is talking about. Sheva playes for Ukraine and henry for France... Can't you see the difference before you make a judgement? Ukraine's players where no where near as good as France's. If Sheva had the likes of Zidane, Viera and Ribery to support him he would have smoked Henry. Still Sheva scored 2 and Henry only 3 and again Henry played a lot more than Sheva.

I can still go on and on, but I just don't feel like it because it's pretty obvious...

Sheva is better than Henry. No doubts.
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jul 20 2006, 11:31 PM)
Sheva is better than Henry. No doubts.
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No doubt about that king.gif
LaPalma
Now that I got some time too think about this topic, I gotta say... Sure Sheva is overall the better striker. Just look at the WC, I mean Sheva wasn't all that good, but he as captain of the Ukrainian teamm managed to reach the quarterfinals.
And than all that goals he scored for us in the CL, I'll never forget his goals. Remember last season when he scored 4 times in a row in one match?
He's the second most succesfull CL scorer of all time, only Rául is better, and he palyed some seasons more...
Henry is definetely the better technician, no doubt there. Sheva is the more physical striker, he can be like a very fast tank... and overall he's the more versatile striker. Henry is good in the box, and at dribbling, but Sheva can score from every situation, even when you expect it the least. And has anyone of you ever seen an Henry goal, produced by a header? We'll I've seen some of Sheva... well it's hard to say...but he's the best striker of the 21 century so far.
Why has he left again? devilsmiley.gif biggrin.gif devilsmiley.gif
KillerMax
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jul 20 2006, 02:57 PM)
Now that I got some time too think about this topic, I gotta say... Sure Sheva is overall the better striker. Just look at the WC, I mean Sheva wasn't all that good, but he as captain of the Ukrainian teamm managed to reach the quarterfinals.
And than all that goals he scored for us in the CL, I'll never forget his goals. Remember last season when he scored 4 times in a row in one match?
He's the second most succesfull CL scorer of all time, only Rául is better, and he palyed some seasons more...
Henry is definetely the better technician, no doubt there. Sheva is the more physical striker, he can be like a very fast tank... and overall he's the more versatile striker. Henry is good in the box, and at dribbling, but Sheva can score from every situation, even when you expect it the least. And has anyone of you ever seen an Henry goal, produced by a header? We'll I've seen some of Sheva... well it's hard to say...but he's the best striker of the 21 century so far.
Why has he left again? devilsmiley.gif  biggrin.gif  devilsmiley.gif
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Sheva has scored more than Raul.
LaPalma
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jul 20 2006, 09:41 PM)
Sheva has scored more than Raul.
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Nope...I've just looked it up....we're both wrong... Sheva and Rául both scored 51 times...
dst
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jul 20 2006, 11:31 PM)
We just have the accept what a great man he is and trust him.
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You have to do so ... I don't have to do nothing, he's a great player but far from a great man ... trust him???Man you are funny LOL laugh.gif

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jul 20 2006, 11:31 PM)
The only thing Henry does better than Sheva is the fancy dribbles and foot work.
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Henry's got a better finishing.If you argue that you're pretty messed up!!!!!

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jul 20 2006, 11:31 PM)
Whoever says that Henry is playing better than Sheva right now doens't know what he/she is talking about.
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Watch your mouth pal ... Quit your fanboy crying would you???I never did and I never will like Henry more than I do Sheva.And I am over his departure and stuff. You're clearly very good at describing what footballers can or can't do but you're certainly not a good reader!!!!Right now means the whole past year man ... and if you tell me Sheva played better last year than Henry then you're more than funny, you're hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!

And don't describe to me again what each one is capable of; I already wrote it, Andryi Shevchenko is a far bette player overall!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KillerMax
QUOTE (dst @ Jul 20 2006, 06:31 PM)
You have to do so ... I don't have to do nothing, he's a great player but far from a great man ... trust him???Man you are funny LOL  laugh.gif
Henry's got a better finishing.If you argue that you're pretty messed up!!!!!
Watch your mouth pal ... Quit your fanboy crying would you???I never did and I never will like Henry more than I do Sheva.And I am over his departure and stuff. You're clearly very good at describing what footballers can or can't do but you're certainly not a good reader!!!!Right now means the whole past year man ... and if you tell me Sheva played better last year than Henry then you're more than funny, you're hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!

And don't describe to me again what each one is capable of; I already wrote it, Andryi Shevchenko is a far bette player overall!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You just lost my respect for you... What I said wasn't in an insulting manner and it didn't deserve such chilidish response. You can talk all you want online, but I'm sure you wouldn't talk to someone like that in real life... That's just rude...
dst
QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Jul 21 2006, 04:10 AM)
You just lost my respect for you... What I said wasn't in an insulting manner and it didn't deserve such chilidish response. You can talk all you want online, but I'm sure you wouldn't talk to someone like that in real life... That's just rude...
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Thank you, you're right you were so respectful!!!!!
Nova
Who the hell cares !!!!

They can both kiss my @ss !!
milan00047
Guys we'll see.
Arsenal v Chelsea in the premierleague.
I think henry will outshine Sheva(if he plays ofcourse) jus like he did to Ronnie on two nights at Frankfurt and at Paris.
LaPalma
QUOTE (milan00047 @ Jul 22 2006, 04:17 AM)
Guys we'll see.
Arsenal v Chelsea in the premierleague.
I think henry will outshine Sheva(if he plays ofcourse) jus like he did to Ronnie on two nights at Frankfurt and at Paris.
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Hmm...it's easier to shine in a team like Arsenal than in a team like Chelsea with that superstars....
Rossoneri7
QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jul 22 2006, 12:47 PM)
Hmm...it's easier to shine in a team like Arsenal than in a team like Chelsea with that superstars....
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Ur right, I'm interested to see how he'd perform in Chelsea.
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