[kdman]

hmm, aren't we playing with 2 DMs now, even without Pirlo, and what fast paced play are we talking about? Oh you must be thinking about that other team, CA Nilam, because Allegri's Milan is anything but fast. Yes Pirlo needs a DM behind him, but given that we still now play with 2 DMs, needed or not, it wouldn't really have made any difference. And we play with a turtle in our midfield, so saying Pirlo is slow isn't really all that much compared to what we currently have.

Pirlo leaving was mostly down to Allegri, he didn't know how to include him so his best solution was to remove him, he did the same with Ronaldinho. He'd rather have a work horse midfield that punts the ball at Ibra then try to actually work on a midfield that works well.

Pirlo wanted a longer contract, yes, but money was never the issue, his family is wealthy, he's been getting a lot of money for a long time now, and Juve did not give him the amount he was given here. And it's not like Juve are such an atraction these days either (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

You are in a way even confirming my point of view. We are still playing two DMs simply bcos we don't have alternatives. Replacing the types of Pirlo and R80 with different type of midfielders is the corrective measures the club is trying to take to address that issue. If that has not yet been achieved it doesn't mean the idea is wrong. Like it or not, Pirlo is a weight on the type of system Allegri wanted. It is no coincidence that Robinho got picked ahead of R80. And without Pirlo we did quite well. Why do you think the clubs focus has mostly been on the likes of Pastore/Hamsik/Ganso/Kaka/Montolivo? Players with different characteristics than Pirlo? Why aren't we focusing on a Pirlo-type, deep-lying playmaker? Because we want to move away from that. So in that sense Pirlo is not terribly important. The club/coach made it clear that he was welcomed to stay, at a reduced wage on a year deal. With the understanding that he's not gonna be the fulcrum thru which the team runs as has been the case in past years. We can't afford that luxury. He refused. Same deal was tabled to Seedorf, and he accepted.

Pirlo is wealthy? What does that prove? That wealthy people/footballers don't want money? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Go check again, Juve is paying him almost the same thing he was paid at Milan (if not more). If its not an issue, why didn't he accept the 1 year deal at a reduced wage? So don't make it sound as if Milan is to blame, and Pirlo is such an indispensable player, a saint who was used and dumped by the club.

This post has been edited by kdman: Aug 25 2011, 10:26 AM

[Guest_Suhail 3_*]

So after all the big Mister x build up/hype/suspense throughout the summer, we have ended up with Aquilani on a free loan.

It went from Fabregas to Hamsik the Montolivo and we end up with aquilani, not that aquilani is a bad player but i m kinda disappointed and wanted someone of a much higher calibre

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) but there is still time G (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Zed.D]

The Fabregas rumors were laughable. apparently Barca couldn't afford both him and Sanchez according to some folks on here but guess what, they did! like I said a while ago, we're a bit sad, fantasizing over players we will never have. at least not until we have some oil rich Russian or Arab as owner.

[han2503]

You are in a way even confirming my point of view. We are still playing two DMs simply bcos we don't have alternatives. Replacing the types of Pirlo and R80 with different type of midfielders is the corrective measures the club is trying to take to address that issue. If that has not yet been achieved it doesn't mean the idea is wrong. Like it or not, Pirlo is a weight on the type of system Allegri wanted. It is no coincidence that Robinho got picked ahead of R80. And without Pirlo we did quite well. Why do you think the clubs focus has mostly been on the likes of Pastore/Hamsik/Ganso/Kaka/Montolivo? Players with different characteristics than Pirlo? Why aren't we focusing on a Pirlo-type, deep-lying playmaker? Because we want to move away from that. So in that sense Pirlo is not terribly important. The club/coach made it clear that he was welcomed to stay, at a reduced wage on a year deal. With the understanding that he's not gonna be the fulcrum thru which the team runs as has been the case in past years. We can't afford that luxury. He refused. Same deal was tabled to Seedorf, and he accepted.

Pirlo is wealthy? What does that prove? That wealthy people/footballers don't want money? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Go check again, Juve is paying him almost the same thing he was paid at Milan (if not more). If its not an issue, why didn't he accept the 1 year deal at a reduced wage? So don't make it sound as if Milan is to blame, and Pirlo is such an indispensable player, a saint who was used and dumped by the club.

We play with 2 DMs and a box-to-box player as an attacking mid because that is the type of system Allegri wants us to play. He wants the midfield full of pointless runners, while relying on Ibra to pull goals out of his @ss. That's what we were doing last season when Pirlo was injured and Seedorf was playing like cr@p.

Had Pirlo stayed he would have played on the left, Allegri does not know how to deploy the deep-lying playmaker like Carlo did, and that was where Pirlo was playing before he got injured last season.

As for his deal at Juve, it's 4m which is significantly less then what he was earning here. The main point of contention was the length of the contract since Pirlo wanted a longer deal. Also you can't compare him with Ambro, Rino or Seedorf. Pirlo is still a saught after player while the former 3 simply are not. That is the big difference. Seedorf's options were us, or Brazil. Rino's was us, or Russia, Ambro would probably only be wanted by mid to lower level Serie A teams.

My main point on Pirlo and what really gets to me is that we let him go for free to a rival and our only replacement is Aquilani. Should we sign Montolivo and/or Kaka, then I'll tell you that it was ok, but until we replac him adequately, I'll keep insisting that it was a mistake for us to let him go the way we did. Especially when last summer Carlo's Chelsea wanted to shell out for him. I never said that he needs to be the one that we build our midfield on, but you canot deny that he would have given us depth and quality in an area that we seriously lack such a luxury. Had we kept him, we would have added Aqui and be done with it.

Also, it's easy to talk about Hamsik, Cesc, etc, but we all know that they're not coming to Milan anytime soon, not until they either fall out with their clubs or are in their 30s (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

The Fabregas rumors were laughable. apparently Barca couldn't afford both him and Sanchez according to some folks on here but guess what, they did! like I said a while ago, we're a bit sad, fantasizing over players we will never have. at least not until we have some oil rich Russian or Arab as owner.

Agreed. We are simply not financially strong enough to compete with these clubs, and people were slating me a couple of weeks ago because I'd be happy with Aqui and Monto...

[Bluesummers]

News:


-Madrid offer Kaka to Milan on a permanent deal for 20m euros over 4 years (5m euro installements). However, we don't have the cash anymore to do this deal so its directly now in the hands of berlusconi. If Berlu says yes we'll sign him now on a permanent transfer. If not, Galliani will go this weekend and negotiate a fee for Kaka over a possible loan deal.


The terms of the players loan have been accepted, however the fees are not acceptable. Madrid want 30m, while Milan do not see him at that value.



-Man United are going to launch a bid for Ganso this weekend.


-Pedulla: "Market closed? Thats a lie. Were still in negotiations for one more player. It could be montolivo or it could be Kaka, who knows..."


-Ambrosini: "Kaka would be welcomed back with open arms"



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(leaving london)


TMW/mn/cm/tutto

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Aug 25 2011, 11:57 AM

[CrazyMilanFan]

Man U for ganso that is interesting... 5 days and everything will be clear (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Bluesummers]

This weekend is gonna be bursting with news by the minute, i'll keep you guys updated as fast as humanly possible (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Stay tuned, it all begins Friday!!!

[CrazyMilanFan]

This weekend is gonna be bursting with news by the minute, i'll keep you guys updated as fast as humanly possible (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Stay tuned, it all begins Friday!!!

thanks in advance (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[han2503]

This weekend is gonna be bursting with news by the minute, i'll keep you guys updated as fast as humanly possible (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Stay tuned, it all begins Friday!!!

Monday, Tuesday and Weds will all be busier me thinks. So book those days blue (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Bluesummers]

Monday, Tuesday and Weds will all be busier me thinks. So book those days blue (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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D'arc help!!!!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Aug 25 2011, 12:13 PM

[d'Arc.LP]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/begging.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nervoussmiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/freak.gif)




D'arc help!!!!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

It's ok man, I'll give you a hand (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Bluesummers]

It's ok man, I'll give you a hand (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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[d'Arc.LP]

Longoni: Aquilani was not the dream of the fans. Kaka? Gives team great quality

The journalist Telelombardia, Andrea Longoni, exclusively for MilanNews.it, spoke about the new purchase Aquilani and market rumors circulating around the environment in the last hours Rossoneri.

Let's start off with the latest news, the arrival of Aquilani. And 'he the right man for the AC Milan midfield?

"Surely he was not the dream of the Milan fans, but at this point the market was one of the best around. Liverpool has failed, did not go well at Juventus as well as the rest of the team, AC Milan have all I can to express at best, not having the midfield on his shoulders. But I think that we should pay attention to Mino Raiola, I do not think this year will not bring anyone. "

In the last hours we speak insistently of landing Kaka, who would be well received even by Gattuso and Ambrosini. What do you think?

"I do not say up to 100% but I think there are good possibilities. Him, even if it is not the one who left Milan some years ago, can I make the leap in quality also would come to favorable economic conditions. "

If you were to get Kaka, back to question the permanence of Cassano, who do you think?

"I think so, I think that all '80% can remain, but with the arrival of Brazilian ...".

To date, how would you rate the market for Milan?

"Given the problems of our market, I think that would give it a 7.5, whereas we have kept all the big names and Italy remain the favorites."

In the afternoon there will be the draw of the Champions League, AC Milan who see the second band, what are your feelings?

"I do not imbalance, but I think that others are afraid to AC Milan. As said Allegri, apart from Barcelona, ​​we can play with everyone. We have a cohesive group and more convinced of their own means. "

source : milannews.it

This post has been edited by d'Arc.LP: Aug 25 2011, 12:22 PM

[CHU-LIP]

No..just that the last two people to wear that number for us were not remarkable successes despite their potential. And we need Aquilani to be super awesome for us.

I figured that. Strasser played well for us when he got the chance though. He doesn't deserve this. Strasser still is very young and still can have an awesome career. If only we didn't loan him out, especially now Flamini got long term injured it's really unfortunate to not have him now. Oh man, why are we talking about who wore what shirt. First #11 was ''cursed'', but then we gave it to a proper striker like Zlatan, et voilà.

And is it allowed on this forum being continued attacked? Mishie really is attacking me with every post of his.

[d'Arc.LP]

Kaka to Arsenal: Real refuses the loan


According to the Daily Mail, Arsene Wenger of Arsenal would be in these remaining days of the market in balance between different particular thick names to try to fill the void left by the departures of Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri. That's why the name that most circulating in London that is the same that appears in newspapers in our own articles on the Rossoneri: Ricardo Kaka. The Brazilian seems, given the repeated fitness benches and a not yet fully recovered, close to a goodbye to Merengues of Jose Mourinho. The real problem is the potential mode of transfer. The English club, as well as the AC Milan playmaker would have on loan with the right of redemption to be paid in several installments. Different position of Florentino Perez, who refuses the loan and intends to monetize as much as possible into the coffers madrid, yielding the sample of only Blancos outright. The goal of these companies during the next few trading days, will just find a compromise to the three parts and find the solution more attractive for the player, and for the interested clubs. From here the 19 of August 31, anything can happen.

source: milannews.it