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post May 29 2008, 05:35 PM
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Such optimism, guys. Honestly, it's a bit much considering we're still in May.
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post May 29 2008, 05:40 PM
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Blind speculation never hurt anyone

We might be shattered come August but for the moment let us rampantly speculate
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post May 29 2008, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ May 29 2008, 08:05 PM)
Such optimism, guys. Honestly, it's a bit much considering we're still in May.
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Yeah, but some used to say these words 12 months ago... "we'll get world class players here and there"... and we ended up with Emerson and Ba... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I'm sure about signing quite a lot of players, only I'm not convinced about their quality yet... Borriello... Abbiati... looks like 6 of those 7-8 players Galliani mentioned are our own players coming back from loan spells (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 29 2008, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ May 29 2008, 10:11 PM)
Yeah, but some used to say these words 12 months ago... "we'll get world class players here and there"... and we ended up with Emerson and Ba...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I'm sure about signing quite a lot of players, only I'm not convinced about their quality yet... Borriello... Abbiati... looks like 6 of those 7-8 players Galliani mentioned are our own players coming back from loan spells (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 30 2008, 07:03 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 29 2008, 07:38 PM)

Funny Jack, but I don't think it would happen, at least not with these 2, I think we all saw the class and potential of demetrio ond Boban, but can you honestly say you see that in Boriello and Abbiati?
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post May 30 2008, 08:27 AM
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Abbiati was a number one for us...sometime back. Let's not forget that. He's kinda like our David James. One of those enigmas...who can be very good...but also pretty bad.

He would probably have been a Milan hero by now, if Dida hadn't walked in. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Anyway, my point is the GK is not really our most crucial position. We've been waiting for 2 seasons for Kalac to screw up big...and the truth is he hasn't. That's not the same as saying he's Petr Cech...but I do think the GK can wait a bit longer.

Save up the cash from the GK...and pay the extra that clubs are asking for. In our case Zambrotta and whoever the SS is.
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post May 30 2008, 11:06 AM
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I'm not sure how much we're going to pay, but 7m euros for a home grown striker who scored 19 goals in Serie A last season is a good deal. I'm not his biggest fan, but that's not because I think he's under performed, I just haven't seen enough of him to pass judgement.

Agree with the majority here that we need another 'World Class' forward, but we owe it to Borriello to at least let him fight for a starting spot in the squad. That's what we were missing last season - competitive squad depth.
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post May 30 2008, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 30 2008, 07:27 AM)
Abbiati was a number one for us...sometime back. Let's not forget that. He's kinda like our David James. One of those enigmas...who can be very good...but also pretty bad.

He would probably have been a Milan hero by now, if Dida hadn't walked in. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Anyway, my point is the GK is not really our most crucial position. We've been waiting for 2 seasons for Kalac to screw up big...and the truth is he hasn't. That's not the same as saying he's Petr Cech...but I do think the GK can wait a bit longer.

Save up the cash from the GK...and pay the extra that clubs are asking for. In our case Zambrotta and whoever the SS is.
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Personally I think the keeper position is as crucial as Zambrotta and the WC SS would be. Klac did screw up last season but as I said to LaPalma in another thread he was just lucky that it was in a period when the team was in good enough form to make up for those mistakes. Too bad for Dida he made his screw up when the team couldn't even score 1 goal to save their lives. So imo it's just a matter of luck for Kalac that he came in when he did and had those great performances when he did.

And Abbiati was great for us in his time, but based on what he has show these last 3 seasons, I wouldn't want him anywhere near Milanello. Fact is we need a solid keeper, and I'm not even expecting a Buffon or Cech, just someone solid that we can rely on. It's not a coincedence that when we have a great keeper between the posts our defence is amazing but when we have a Dida off form or Kalac they underperform terribly and we conceed cheap goals. Confidence for the defence comes from having a keeper that they can rely on

QUOTE (m1ke @ May 30 2008, 10:06 AM)
I'm not sure how much we're going to pay, but 7m euros for a home grown striker who scored 19 goals in Serie A last season is a good deal. I'm not his biggest fan, but that's not because I think he's under performed, I just haven't seen enough of him to pass judgement.

Agree with the majority here that we need another 'World Class' forward, but we owe it to Borriello to at least let him fight for a starting spot in the squad. That's what we were missing last season - competitive squad depth.
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I personally am against the Boriello transfer, the only positive I see in him is the Primavera factor. But as you said, I will give him the chance come next season to see what he can do. That's all we can really do now anyway since he is a Milan player again
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post May 30 2008, 03:15 PM
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Look, at this moment it's like Abbiati>Kalac>Dida>Coppola...

Abbiati is good but not enough for us. Still, he's better then Kalac. Like han said, Kalac stept in when we allready consolidated and started scoring. His overall keeping is on the level of a Barca keeper - not bad on one-on-one's, tall and can reach out, and also not that clumsy, but he has obvious week sides - his reflexes are questionable, his free-kick positioning is desastrous and his judgement also can be poor. So to me he's not even near No. 1. With Dida at least I remember he was great.

All in all the biggest problem is there's noone around who could be signed. Either too old like Sereni or too young like Lloris. We need someone with experience and not too old. IMO Frey, Chech, Enke and Beganlio only match. If not them, we could try get Coupet or the young ones - Curci, Adler, etc.

Btw. how good is the Marseille keeper Mandana (right spelling)?
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post May 30 2008, 03:17 PM
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I still like Boruc, but that link seems to have gone cold recently.
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QUOTE (m1ke @ May 30 2008, 03:17 PM)
I still like Boruc, but that link seems to have gone cold recently.
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You mean that's a hint we're in deal with him? Maybe..

My prediction:
Poland has a week side who will face 3 different but hard teams-
1. Croatia - Boruc could make some good saves as we play offensive but have a nasty habit of not being allways able to finish off (lack of killer-instinct); so we easily make keepers look good.

2. Germany - motivation and Klose could do it again.

3. Austria - the home team has a history and tradition of not scoring goals easy. Ever since Matthias Sindelar and Toni Polster left..

So after the 3 matches Poland will be out of the Euro but Boruc's transfer value will be raised for 50%...

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post May 30 2008, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 30 2008, 03:15 PM)
Btw. how good is the Marseille keeper Mandana (right spelling)?
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Mandanda is as good as Lloris in my opinion and is one year older, but it's his first season at the top level, Lloris is at his third.

You guys should forget about any young keeper, I said it before, Milan will never put a young keeper on the field whether we get a good keeper with experience or stay with our current keepers!
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post May 30 2008, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ May 30 2008, 02:57 PM)
So after the 3 matches Poland will be out of the Euro
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post May 30 2008, 09:51 PM
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i thought this was a thread about borriello?

on topic:
just finished watching the italy-belgium game.. borriello sucked. missed a sitter. not milan quality at all.....
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post May 31 2008, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE (rjpado @ May 30 2008, 11:51 PM)
just finished watching the italy-belgium game.. borriello sucked. missed a sitter. not milan quality at all.....
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han !!! We got your Gilardino replacement right here (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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