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post Sep 3 2006, 08:09 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 3 2006, 01:33 AM)
Yeah I would like to see something like that, but unfortunately for us the rule is 2 strikers only

I think that he will definately develop into a star in the future, but Carlo needs to give him playing time, and I'm sure he will give him just that, you can see that he will become a Carlo favourite, he already has a soft spot for him
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The thing is that we haven't got a creative striker, all our strikers are 'fox in the box' type strikers. With Ricky and Yoann orchestrating things we could leave the strikers to do their job and not worry about creating. Whether carlo has the balls to play this formation remains to be seen.
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post Sep 3 2006, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Sep 3 2006, 09:09 AM)
The thing is that we haven't got a creative striker, all our strikers are 'fox in the box' type strikers. With Ricky and Yoann orchestrating things we could leave the strikers to do their job and not worry about creating. Whether carlo has the balls to play this formation remains to be seen.
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If we will ever play with the Xmas tree scheme this season, Kakà and Seedorf will play behind the striker, while Gourcuff and Gattuso on the flanks. Gourcuff is not an attacking midfielder, he's a central midfielder.

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post Sep 3 2006, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 3 2006, 05:04 PM)
If we will ever play with the Xmas tree scheme this season, Kakà and Seedorf will play behind the striker, while Gourcuff and Gattuso on the flanks. Gourcuff is not an attacking midfielder, he's a central midfielder.
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what do you mean he's a central midfielder ... what are his duties??? he's certainly not a holding midfielder and neither is he a winger. He's an attacking midfilder, he's a #10 that's why people say he's the new Zidane or whatever the do say!!!!
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post Sep 3 2006, 07:37 PM
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We cant really tell what type of player he is till he gets a chance .. Carlo could place in a possision just as he did for Pirlo, and change the way Gourcuff (still cant get his name right w/o double checking) plays.

He deffinatly has potential, but I don't know about the next Zidane .. I heared that b4, but IMO you never can tell till you actually see him play. At Rennes was one thing, but at Milan it's a whole different ball park.
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post Sep 3 2006, 07:48 PM
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I agree ... but he's definetely not a holding midfielder !!!
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post Sep 3 2006, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 3 2006, 02:04 PM)
If we will ever play with the Xmas tree scheme this season, Kakà and Seedorf will play behind the striker, while Gourcuff and Gattuso on the flanks. Gourcuff is not an attacking midfielder, he's a central midfielder.

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It's a total waste playing Seedorf behind the striker. Kaka and Gourcuff can dribble with the ball and can also cross while Seedorf cannot. Seedorf is better in his left sided midfield position.
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post Sep 3 2006, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Sep 3 2006, 06:44 PM)
what do you mean he's a central midfielder ... what are his duties??? he's certainly not a holding midfielder and neither is he a winger. He's an attacking midfilder, he's a #10 that's why people say he's the new Zidane or whatever the do say!!!!
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post Sep 3 2006, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Sep 3 2006, 09:12 PM)
It's a total waste playing Seedorf behind the striker. Kaka and Gourcuff can dribble with the ball and can also cross while Seedorf cannot. Seedorf is better in his left sided midfield position.
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Seedorf is miles better than Gourcuff, how can you say that?

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what do you mean he's a central midfielder ... what are his duties??? he's certainly not a holding midfielder and neither is he a winger. He's an attacking midfilder, he's a #10 that's why people say he's the new Zidane or whatever the do say!!!!


I'm not saying he's a defensive midfielder. He's more of an organizing midfielder, something like Pirlo, but not with his defensive duties. He's definitely not an attacking midfielder. Maybe in 2-3 years...
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post Sep 3 2006, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 4 2006, 12:13 AM)
He's definitely not an attacking midfielder. Maybe in 2-3 years...
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post Sep 3 2006, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 3 2006, 03:13 PM)
Seedorf is miles better than Gourcuff, how can you say that?

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what do you mean he's a central midfielder ... what are his duties??? he's certainly not a holding midfielder and neither is he a winger. He's an attacking midfilder, he's a #10 that's why people say he's the new Zidane or whatever the do say!!!!


I'm not saying he's a defensive midfielder. He's more of an organizing midfielder, something like Pirlo, but not with his defensive duties. He's definitely not an attacking midfielder. Maybe in 2-3 years...
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He is an attacking midfielder. He just needs to play regularly and adapt.
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post Sep 3 2006, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Sep 3 2006, 10:18 PM)


It does, especially when you're 19. As Tognaccini siad it himself, Gourcuff is a great talent but still developing physically. I don't think he's still ready for such an important duty. He needs to develop more, to become a complete player, like Ricky and Clarence.
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post Sep 3 2006, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 4 2006, 12:25 AM)
It does, especially when you're 19. As Tognaccini siad it himself, Gourcuff is a great talent but still developing physically. I don't think he's still ready for such an important duty. He needs to develop more, to become a complete player, like Ricky and Clarence.
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ofcourse he's not a complete player ant not one much developed physically ... but what that has to do with what HE IS not WHAT HE CAN PLAY NOW???

he's an amf in France U21 isn't he??? that's what I'm talking about not if he's ready to play as such in Milan or not!!!!
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post Sep 3 2006, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Sep 3 2006, 08:12 PM)
It's a total waste playing Seedorf behind the striker. Kaka and Gourcuff can dribble with the ball and can also cross while Seedorf cannot. Seedorf is better in his left sided midfield position.
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Seedorf can't dribble and cross????? Come on. Seedorf imo is the classic #10 player, he can dribble, cross make amazing through balls and score.

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what do you mean he's a central midfielder ... what are his duties??? he's certainly not a holding midfielder and neither is he a winger. He's an attacking midfilder, he's a #10 that's why people say he's the new Zidane or whatever the do say!!!!


I'm not saying he's a defensive midfielder. He's more of an organizing midfielder, something like Pirlo, but not with his defensive duties. He's definitely not an attacking midfielder. Maybe in 2-3 years...
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This is what I have been mentioning a few times, you're right dst it doesn't come with age, but I think that he doesn't have the abiltiy yet to handle the tight marking that he will come up against, that's why I think for now he is better at playing in Seedorf's position.

I'm sure that once he get's the hang of how things work in serie A he will be able to play in the whole between the strikers
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QUOTE (dst @ Sep 3 2006, 10:29 PM)
ofcourse he's not a complete player ant not one much developed physically ... but what that has to do with what HE IS not WHAT HE CAN PLAY NOW???

he's an amf in France U21 isn't he??? that's what I'm talking about not if he's ready to play as such in Milan or not!!!!
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This is what I have been mentioning a few times, you're right dst it doesn't come with age, but I think that he doesn't have the abiltiy yet to handle the tight marking that he will come up against, that's why I think for now he is better at playing in Seedorf's position.

I'm sure that once he get's the hang of how things work in serie A he will be able to play in the whole between the strikers
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post Sep 4 2006, 05:32 AM
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just remember when kaka came to milan, some of you could have said the same thing of him, and just look now, and the goal he did today to argentina (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

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