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post Jul 29 2017, 06:58 AM
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I think there's a difference: Cassano isn't stupid, he's crazy. Balotelli on the other hand is mainly stupid.
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post Jul 29 2017, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 29 2017, 06:58 AM) *
I think there's a difference: Cassano isn't stupid, he's crazy. Balotelli on the other hand is mainly stupid.

Great way to put it!
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post Jul 29 2017, 03:22 PM
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Balotelli is stupid. He's also not a great player. He's overated because he's a colourful/controversial black Italian. Those are rare. He's had an ability attributed to him he's nowhere near capable of delivering. On his day an above average striker, but no more. If he behaved himself he wouldn't have had a quarter of the hype he used to.
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post Jul 29 2017, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 27 2017, 09:30 PM) *
Cassano when he was younger and on his game was simply amazing. Forget his time with us or Real or Inter. He'd already gone off the deep end by then.

Just look at some of the games he had at Roma. He was a genius imo. But he could never truly realise his true potential simply because his mental issues held him back.


I hate this. I hate this nonsense of a young player having a few great matches then suddenly everyone fawning over them like they're Maradona.

I call it Senna Syndrome - the ease with which a good performer is elevated to genius or above in the event of death or failure, while others who came after, achieved far more, dominated more, achieved things no one else ever has (COUGH VETTEL COUGH) get next to no credit while modern fans fawn over what the earlier one could have done.

Which is not to smear Senna, fine driver - but seems higher rated than those who achieved more both at the SAME TIME as him (Prost) and subsequently (a whole bunch).

Ok, sorry, what was this thread about again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 29 2017, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 29 2017, 03:22 PM) *
Balotelli is stupid. He's also not a great player. He's overated because he's a colourful/controversial black Italian. Those are rare. He's had an ability attributed to him he's nowhere near capable of delivering. On his day an above average striker, but no more. If he behaved himself he wouldn't have had a quarter of the hype he used to.


I disagree. I think in his day Balotelli can be world class, he's got the skills to make that happen. But it's his attitude that prevents him from doing that. And I'm not saying his attitude off the pitch, but his passive playing style. If Balotelli had the grit and determination of Lapadula he would be unstoppable.
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post Jul 29 2017, 08:43 PM
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With respect, b*llocks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 30 2017, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 29 2017, 03:26 PM) *
I hate this. I hate this nonsense of a young player having a few great matches then suddenly everyone fawning over them like they're Maradona.

I call it Senna Syndrome - the ease with which a good performer is elevated to genius or above in the event of death or failure, while others who came after, achieved far more, dominated more, achieved things no one else ever has (COUGH VETTEL COUGH) get next to no credit while modern fans fawn over what the earlier one could have done.

Which is not to smear Senna, fine driver - but seems higher rated than those who achieved more both at the SAME TIME as him (Prost) and subsequently (a whole bunch).

Ok, sorry, what was this thread about again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Well that's the point about death isn't it, he was an amazing driver who had his life cut short, thus was never able to achieve all that he could have should he have had the opportunity to finish out his career like others have had.

I'm not huge on formula 1, that's my dad's thing, but he's a huge Ferrari fan, so subsequently a huge Schumacher fan, and even he says that Senna was one of the best drivers he ever watched.

With someone who fails due to being mentally not there like Cassano, his obvious talent was there for all to see in his early days, his touch, vision, dribbling, he could do it all. It's why Real wanted him so badly and that is when the cracks started showing during that summer when he transferred from Roma to Real.

He simply was never committed enough, not physically and not mentally. Add to that he's obviously got a bit of a screw loose and he was never going to be able to realise what he initially promised he'd become back then.

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 29 2017, 03:31 PM) *
I disagree. I think in his day Balotelli can be world class, he's got the skills to make that happen. But it's his attitude that prevents him from doing that. And I'm not saying his attitude off the pitch, but his passive playing style. If Balotelli had the grit and determination of Lapadula he would be unstoppable.

Agreed. Balo definitely had the raw talent, he just never really showed any sort of desire to putting in the work needed to be a true pro.

That's why I admire players like Ronaldo. I think compared to Messi he's not as naturally gifted but the amount of work he put in to reach the level he's at is simply admirable.
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There are players who value football above everything else. Clearly Balo is not one of them. He's just happy making those millions and trying to care once in a while. Shame.
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post Jul 30 2017, 03:25 PM
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@Danny??!!

Senna? You doubt Senna? Senna was a guitar virtuoso in an era of concert violinists. He was amazing. I've only seen his videos, but by God he's amazing.

Vettel is a bit more of your classical driver. He's not that driving God that Alonso is (give everyone the same car and Alonso will win over a season), and well he's not as raw quick like Hamilton but he's not something I haven't seen before.

Senna was! That was what made him special.
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post Jul 30 2017, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 29 2017, 05:26 PM) *
I hate this. I hate this nonsense of a young player having a few great matches then suddenly everyone fawning over them like they're Maradona.

I call it Senna Syndrome - the ease with which a good performer is elevated to genius or above in the event of death or failure, while others who came after, achieved far more, dominated more, achieved things no one else ever has (COUGH VETTEL COUGH) get next to no credit while modern fans fawn over what the earlier one could have done.

Which is not to smear Senna, fine driver - but seems higher rated than those who achieved more both at the SAME TIME as him (Prost) and subsequently (a whole bunch).

Ok, sorry, what was this thread about again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I know what you're talking about, buy Ayrton Senna was unique, special and poetry in motion, dead or not dead.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 30 2017, 10:46 PM) *
I know what you're talking about, buy Ayrton Senna was unique, special and poetry in motion, dead or not dead.


Thank you.
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