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AC Milan - Milanfan.com _ Archive 07/08 _ 27/2/08 - Serie A - Catania vs Milan
Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 25 2008, 05:25 PM
Here we go for another 3 crucial points... 
Posted by: rhy_A4 Feb 25 2008, 05:30 PM
Please let Gourcuff play again !!
Posted by: Tennie Feb 25 2008, 05:36 PM
Hopefully this time in Catania, we'll get a better result than we did during the Coppa game.
Kaka is out for sure.
In today's training, Seedorf did specialized work, Kalac resumed normal training along with Offredi and Fiori, and Il Capitano trained with the group. As is usual for training the day after a game, those who played the full 90 worked in the gym.
Posted by: Nova Feb 25 2008, 05:46 PM
I expect a really hard game. All of our games are must wins !!
0-1 is good enough for me (also less highlights to upload) 
Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2008, 06:30 PM
Carlo said that the will rotate the team, so I'm expecting something like this
Cafu--Bonera--Kala--Favalli
--Emerson--Pirlo--Brocchi--
-------------Yaonn------------
----------Pato--Gila----------
I don't think Seedorf will be ready, so Yoann in behind the strikers
Posted by: Bluesummers Feb 25 2008, 07:20 PM
Cafu--Bonera--Kala--Favalli
--Emerson--Pirlo--Brocchi--
-------------Yaonn------------
----------Pato--Gila----------
I don't think Seedorf will be ready, so Yoann in behind the strikers
nope wrong
it'll be
cafu-bonera-kala-janku
--brochhi--pirlo-emerson-sergio--
-----------pato---gila----------
Posted by: Darunia Feb 25 2008, 10:54 PM
I hope we get a win so we can rest players on saturday since the Arsenal game is on tuesday. I hope Gila and Gourcuff start both games, if Gourcuff can't get a start with Kaka and Seedorf injured...
Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2008, 10:55 PM
it'll be
cafu-bonera-kala-janku
--brochhi--pirlo-emerson-sergio--
-----------pato---gila----------
I think Yoann will be given another chance on Wednesday, I don't even think Sergio is fit enough, was he even on the bench against Palermo?
Posted by: Darunia Feb 25 2008, 10:55 PM
Cafu--Bonera--Kala--Favalli
--Emerson--Pirlo--Brocchi--
-------------Yaonn------------
----------Pato--Gila----------
I don't think Seedorf will be ready, so Yoann in behind the strikers
I kind of expect this lineup as well although he may start with Janku and Oddo and rest them against Lazio, we'll see.
Posted by: han2503 Feb 25 2008, 11:02 PM
That's what I thought he would do before Carlo said he was going to rotate the players in this match.
As for Yoann, we need him in this game especially since without him our only creative outlet is Pirlo and he hasn't been so hot either these last few games.
If Seedorf is back then I'm sure he'll take his place in the starting line up behind the strikers
Posted by: KingKaka Feb 25 2008, 11:11 PM
i think theres 99.9% chance this will be our team for the match
fiori
cafu-diago-kala-Darmian
--brochhi--Gourcuff-ba-sergio--
-----------pato---aubameyang----------
Posted by: Darunia Feb 25 2008, 11:18 PM
lol.. that'd be funny, Catania would win again.
Posted by: Nova Feb 26 2008, 01:57 AM
fiori
cafu-diago-kala-Darmian
--brochhi--Gourcuff-ba-sergio--
-----------pato---aubameyang----------
I dont think Fiori , Digao , Darmian , ba , serginho & Aubameyang will play .
Posted by: Tennie Feb 26 2008, 02:05 AM
Sergio just might, but I'm not sure if he's match-fit. They might put the kid in attack, or at least take him down to Sicily.
For what it's worth, here's Gazzetta's probable lineup:
Kalac
Oddo
Bonera
Kaladze
Maldini
Gattuso
Pirlo
Ambrosini
Gourcuff
Gilardino
Pato
Posted by: Darunia Feb 26 2008, 02:12 AM
They should start Paloschi, he's done well against Catania 
Gazetta's lineup makes sense. Maldini will prob play this one so he can rest for Lazio and be ready for Arsenal.
Posted by: Tennie Feb 26 2008, 02:13 AM
Hrm. That'd be interesting to see, Paloschi and Pato. Prolly won't happen at least this seaon, but...the 'team of old men' with two 18 year olds as the striker pairing. Makes me giggle.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 26 2008, 09:08 AM
You're right! it'd be really interesting to see Palo and Pato play in front. it might work perfectly!
Posted by: Tennie Feb 26 2008, 12:24 PM
In the 'today's training' article on acmilan.com (http://www.acmilan.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=62573), a couple of interesting notes.
Seedorf trained regularly with the group, but a whole bunch of players trained separately in the gym: Kakà , Dida, Serginho, Nesta, Pirlo and Jankulovski.
EDIT:
Here are the call ups:
PORTIERI: Fiori, Kalac, Offredi
DIFENSORI: Bonera, Cafu, Digao, Favalli, Maldini, Oddo, Simic
CENTROCAMPISTI: Ambrosini, Brocchi, Emerson, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Seedorf
ATTACCANTI: Gilardino, Inzaghi, Pato, Paloschi
I hope that Pirlo is just being rested.
Darunia, it looks like there's hope! The kid's been called up!
Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 26 2008, 01:18 PM
Looks like Carletto's been hanging around the forums lately. Somebody checked the new members? Anyone from Italy?
Posted by: misha Feb 26 2008, 01:49 PM
PORTIERI: Fiori, Kalac, Offredi
DIFENSORI: Bonera, Cafu, Digao, Favalli, Maldini, Oddo, Simic
CENTROCAMPISTI: Ambrosini, Brocchi, Emerson, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Seedorf
ATTACCANTI: Gilardino, Inzaghi, Pato, Paloschi
----------Kalac
Oddo Bonera Paolo Favalli
--Rino Emerson Seedorf
---------Gourcuff
------Pippo----Pato
Then rest Pippo, Pato, Seedorf, Rino, Paolo and Oddo against Lazio.
Posted by: dst Feb 26 2008, 03:02 PM
Pirlo had to be rested!
I hope to see Pa-Pa up front!!
Posted by: Tennie Feb 26 2008, 03:08 PM
Carletto's pregame press conference is up on acmilan.com (http://www.acmilan.com/NewsDetail.aspx?idNews=62590)
Highlights include:
*Carletto thinks, but isn't positive, that Kaka should be back for the Arsenal game.
*Kaladze, Pirlo and Jankulovski are exhausted and deserve a rest.
*Nesta should be available for Saturday's game v. Lazio.
*Seedorf is availalbe and may start or may come off the bench.
*(quote) "Borriello? I honestly didn't expect it, but he's demonstrating his quality. He could play in any squad, including Milan. He's a complete striker, has an eye for goal, has technique....We're following Borriello as well as Ricardo Oliveira."
Posted by: han2503 Feb 26 2008, 03:51 PM
Oddo Bonera Paolo Favalli
--Rino Emerson Seedorf
---------Gourcuff
------Pippo----Pato
Then rest Pippo, Pato, Seedorf, Rino, Paolo and Oddo against Lazio.
Switch Seedorf and Yoann.
I think Seedorf does better further forward and Yoann further back. He wasn't particularly effective behind the strikers on Sunday. And We've seen him have his best games when he plays in that central left area of the pitch next to Pirlo and Rino
I'm just hoping he'll get another chance tomorrow and that he can build on that assist
Posted by: Darunia Feb 26 2008, 07:55 PM
"Seedorf is fine, he is available, now we must see if he is ready for the bench or not." - Makes it sound like Seedorf will start from the bench but who knows.
Channel4 probable formation: Milan (probable): Kalac; Oddo, Bonera, Maldini, Favalli; Brocchi, Emerson, Ambrosini, Seedorf; Pato, Inzaghi
I expect that only Gourcuff in for Seedorf and maybe Ambro being rested.
Posted by: jefri91 Feb 27 2008, 02:56 PM
these are the channels that will show this match
Sky Calcio 3
C+Deporte 3
S.Sport 3 Hellas
Sport Ch. 5
Mediaset Premium 2
Digit ALB
SKY Calcio
Aljazeera Sport +3
I dont know where Sport +3 is...
i only have +1 and +2 please help
Posted by: jefri91 Feb 27 2008, 02:58 PM
nvm i found it, but its not even working
Posted by: Il Capitano Feb 27 2008, 04:14 PM
This game won't be entertaining but I expect the three points.
Gourcuff should get another chance even if he did not impress against Palermo.
Posted by: rhy_A4 Feb 27 2008, 06:52 PM
another 3 points COME ON MILAN !!
Posted by: rhy_A4 Feb 27 2008, 07:30 PM
dude im there with you i only have the four channels Al jazeera +1 , +2 , 1 and 2 i called the company im with Evision they said they'll try and add it in the future....bull
now i have to watch it online or should i watch the Roma match im so confused dam the FA cup replays who wants to see Middlesbrough - Sheffield United play they moved Milan to Al jazeera +3
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 27 2008, 07:35 PM
They moved the Milan game for Boro?
Posted by: rhy_A4 Feb 27 2008, 07:36 PM
 They moved the Milan game for Boro?Â
they moved it for 3 games i think the Greek cup , spanish cup aswell oh and then you have inters game to god i hope they lose tonight
Posted by: Tennie Feb 27 2008, 08:01 PM
(from acmilan.com's italian page)
Starting lineup: Kalac; Cafu, Bonera, Maldini, Favalli; Brocchi, Emerson, Ambrosini; Seedorf; Pato, Inzaghi
C'mon ragazzi, make us proud!
FORZA MILAN
Posted by: Portikins Feb 27 2008, 08:03 PM
Starting lineup: Kalac; Cafu, Bonera, Maldini, Favalli; Brocchi, Emerson, Ambrosini; Seedorf; Pato, Inzaghi
C'mon ragazzi, make us proud!
FORZA MILAN
Pato to score today.
Posted by: Minami Feb 27 2008, 08:03 PM
I didn't expect Maldini to play
But non the less
FORZA MILAN
Get the 3 points 
Posted by: han2503 Feb 27 2008, 08:06 PM
Starting lineup: Kalac; Cafu, Bonera, Maldini, Favalli; Brocchi, Emerson, Ambrosini; Seedorf; Pato, Inzaghi
C'mon ragazzi, make us proud!
FORZA MILAN
With those midffield 3 and still Yoann can't get a starting spot
don't know what the kid has to do to actually get the start...
Posted by: rhy_A4 Feb 27 2008, 08:07 PM
Anyone got the Fox channel link for TVU plz ?
Posted by: Tennie Feb 27 2008, 08:12 PM
Fox isn't showing this one. They're showing Merda-Roma.
Posted by: rhy_A4 Feb 27 2008, 08:14 PM
k looks like its Chinese commentary time to get my dictionary out for the word Foul and Goal
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 27 2008, 08:18 PM
Brocchi, Emerson AND Ambro? THis is so horribly annoying..
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 08:18 PM
bet365 all the way
Posted by: han2503 Feb 27 2008, 08:20 PM
Fox not showing it
Try this one http://www.atdhe.net/SerieA2.html good resolution, no buffering. It starts working a bit late so you'll see it with about 5 minutes delay but it's the best steam out there
Posted by: rhy_A4 Feb 27 2008, 08:21 PM
what its not blocked in Pakistan , its blocked here
Posted by: rhy_A4 Feb 27 2008, 08:21 PM
Try this one http://www.atdhe.net/SerieA2.html good resolution, no buffering
cheers man will it start dead on half past or
Posted by: han2503 Feb 27 2008, 08:22 PM
It starts about 5 - 10 minutes delayed.
Posted by: dst Feb 27 2008, 08:24 PM
Brocchi, Emerson and Ambrosini!! Yeah!!! 
... 
Posted by: rhy_A4 Feb 27 2008, 08:24 PM
dam oh well
Posted by: rhy_A4 Feb 27 2008, 08:27 PM
i think ill do it the old fashioned way and listen to it on the radio 
Posted by: Tennie Feb 27 2008, 08:28 PM
(but dst, there's also no Kaladze!)
Let's hope Pippo + Pato do well today -- and FORZA TURTLE. We need a good performance from him.
Posted by: Minami Feb 27 2008, 08:28 PM
which radio channel is broadcasting it?
i don't think i'll be able to watch it, so it would be great to listen to it on the radio
Posted by: dst Feb 27 2008, 08:28 PM
Paolo Maldini Paolo Ole!!!!!!!
May God lead us to victory!!!
Forza Rossoneri!!!!!!!!
Yes indeed, 11 players!
Posted by: rhy_A4 Feb 27 2008, 08:29 PM
i don't think i'll be able to watch it, so it would be great to listen to it on the radio
AC Milan media radio on the AC Milan main site if you sign up and login you can listen to the match there
Posted by: KillerMax Feb 27 2008, 08:31 PM
...
Especially Brocchi starting in this game is VERY VERY crucial. This is not a game that we can handle with two defensive midfielder... Oh no no no!! The sheer quality of Cataina's midfield, especially their marvelous attack is something to be feared all over the world! Two defensive mids would have been suicide my friend... And don't even think about mentioning 1.... Jesus Christ himself will reemerge and send you straight to hell for your unearthly sins...
Posted by: han2503 Feb 27 2008, 08:31 PM
The stream has already started.
Try it it's the best way to watch a game on the net right now
Posted by: Minami Feb 27 2008, 08:32 PM
I'm not registered to the site..
Any other radio channel?
Seems that I can watch the match....
The link which was posted is running
Thank you anyway !!
Posted by: han2503 Feb 27 2008, 08:34 PM
Any other radio channel?
Seems that I can watch the match....
The link which was posted is running
Thank you anyway !!
Just copy this link http://media.esperia.com/milan_eng in your media player
Posted by: Nova Feb 27 2008, 08:42 PM
A few links here
http://livetv.ru/en/eventinfo/8225/
Posted by: misha Feb 27 2008, 08:42 PM
Posted by: rhy_A4 Feb 27 2008, 08:46 PM
http://livetv.ru/en/eventinfo/8225/
Hey dude are you doing the highlights after the match
Posted by: kaka_sheva Feb 27 2008, 08:55 PM
Try this one http://www.atdhe.net/SerieA2.html good resolution, no buffering. It starts working a bit late so you'll see it with about 5 minutes delay but it's the best steam out there
thanks!!
that's really good quality.
Posted by: Tennie Feb 27 2008, 08:57 PM
Following it via online play by play in Italian. Sounds like it's not the most thrilling of games so far. Brocchi's hurt?
Posted by: Minami Feb 27 2008, 08:58 PM
He has been fouled and got treatment off the pitch, but I think he has returned
Posted by: rhy_A4 Feb 27 2008, 09:04 PM
sounds like alot of fouls are taking place via audio
Posted by: Minami Feb 27 2008, 09:06 PM
WHAT A MISS BY SEEDORF !!!!!!!!!! 
Posted by: Portikins Feb 27 2008, 09:08 PM
GOL TOTTI!
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 27 2008, 09:10 PM
Shocking miss by Seedorf, was one on one could have passed to an unmarked Inzaghi, but had his shot blocked.
Inzaghi had a great chance, but his pathetic first touch let him down
Kalac seems to have hurt his finger/s...
Posted by: Tennie Feb 27 2008, 09:10 PM
FORZA TOTTI! (okay I said it. Now can I wash my mouth out with soap?)
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 27 2008, 09:12 PM
Inzaghi is absolute crap outside the box, but we already knew that
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 27 2008, 09:14 PM
Brilliant piece of skill by Martinez, nutmegs Ambro
Posted by: Portikins Feb 27 2008, 09:18 PM
HT 0-0
HT Inter 0-1 Roma
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 27 2008, 09:21 PM
HT 0-0
Posted by: kaka_sheva Feb 27 2008, 09:21 PM
u all heard the fans cheering when the lady announced the scores for the other serie a matches and she mentions inter-roma is 0-1?
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 27 2008, 09:22 PM
Scores were being read out in Catania, when they heard that Inter were loosing there was a massive cheer
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 09:22 PM
how are we playing...I've missed first half
Posted by: dst Feb 27 2008, 09:22 PM
What a miss by Seedorf... that was real bad... and then Inzaghi could not even chest the ball down... jeez...
Ha-ha!!!! At half-time when the other games' half-time results were being annnounced everyone celebrated when it was heard 'Roma uno Inter zero'!!!!
Posted by: Tennie Feb 27 2008, 09:22 PM
Question for those of you actually watching the game: what sort of change (other than 'the team needs to play better') needs to be made at the half?
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 09:25 PM
bring on some creative player in da midfield yoann for example and change pippo bcoz he not only missed a chance but was terrible outside the box with his cross with almost no ball control
Posted by: Minami Feb 27 2008, 09:25 PM
Posted by: dst Feb 27 2008, 09:25 PM
Awesome, wasn't it??
Oddo on for Cafu and Gourcuff for Brocchi.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 27 2008, 09:27 PM
Catania seem vulnerable to counter attacks, and wide play. I want Inzaghi swapped for someone with better first touch and is quicker. I would like to see Sergio or Jank come on for width, as Favali contributes nothing to attack. His DF is okay though
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 09:27 PM
OMG oddo is on the bench ohh why didnt he start dammit
Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 27 2008, 09:27 PM
...
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 09:27 PM
good to hear that not only we hate INTER, i think even some inter fans hate inter
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 09:28 PM
both of them are not in the squad i think
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 09:30 PM
yeah, we might sub seedorf for gattuso, as catania is so strong...omg
Posted by: dst Feb 27 2008, 09:31 PM
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1825097 
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1825138
Posted by: KillerMax Feb 27 2008, 09:31 PM
.... That would be just fantastic!
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 27 2008, 09:31 PM
I think everyone in Italy hates Inter. Their arrogance is making them easy to hate, among other things
Damn, we do need width though. Gourcuff maybe?
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 09:32 PM
and OMG what an anoying commentator on bet365
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 09:33 PM
yea he is terrible
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 09:33 PM
nice goal from totti btw
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 27 2008, 09:36 PM
2nd half underway, no changes made from us (dont know about Catania)
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 09:38 PM
i think gila and pato could look good...better certainly that with pippo...he can't hold up ball, and with all creativity in our midfield we need someone to hold ball upfront
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 09:38 PM
and without pirlo our FKs are also useless
Posted by: Tennie Feb 27 2008, 09:39 PM
(PALOSCHI!)
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 09:40 PM
yeah, we haven't see pato-paloschi yet...
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 09:41 PM
PATTTTTOOOOOOOOOOooo
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 09:41 PM
patooooooooo way out
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 09:42 PM
bring on gattuso, HAHA
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 09:42 PM
nice finish
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 09:42 PM
forza livorno
Posted by: Tennie Feb 27 2008, 09:43 PM
QUACK QUACK!
GOAL PATO!
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 09:43 PM
PATO is really amazing...
Posted by: Minami Feb 27 2008, 09:46 PM
Patooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!
GOAL!!!!!!!!
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 27 2008, 09:46 PM
Pato was 30 yards out, stopped looked up and placed a placed shot into the bottom corner
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 09:47 PM
i would love to see paloschi and yoann on
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 09:49 PM
offside goal
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 09:49 PM
pippo shocked with offside goal
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 09:49 PM
for no reason he was way offside
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 09:50 PM
faq faq faq
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 09:50 PM
OMG 1-1
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 09:51 PM
and where was other defenders !!!!!!! faqq
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 09:52 PM
we need this vargas, our players can't cross like this
Posted by: Portikins Feb 27 2008, 09:52 PM
Nice deffending...
Anyway. C'mon Pato. Let's go for the double!
Posted by: dst Feb 27 2008, 09:53 PM
Inzaghi fails to stay onside for what would have been his 10000th goal from inside the small box only to see Catania draw the game a minute later... thanks Pippo!
Posted by: Portikins Feb 27 2008, 09:53 PM
Fiorentina 1 up now.
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 09:53 PM
Oddo is on
Posted by: Minami Feb 27 2008, 09:54 PM
that cross was really great
Posted by: nuh Feb 27 2008, 09:54 PM
where can i see pato's goal and was it gd ?
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 27 2008, 09:54 PM
Maldini i think was supposed to be marking Spinesi (goal scorer)
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 09:55 PM
1-1, even in offside goals
Posted by: KillerMax Feb 27 2008, 09:56 PM
Pato.... What did we do... This kid is only 18... How is he doing this? He is taking responsibility for the whole team's bad performance and carries us on his shoulders... That goal was... 
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 09:56 PM
ohhhhh
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 09:56 PM
ahm sorry, that was foul...
Posted by: Minami Feb 27 2008, 09:56 PM
his goal was awsome
i really liked it
don't know where to watch it...
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 09:57 PM
faq, who's covering vargas, he's crosses are dangerous
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 09:57 PM
that was a goal
Posted by: Minami Feb 27 2008, 09:58 PM
bonera should cover him, but he doesn't do that properly
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 10:00 PM
great play from emerson, fk for us, about 20m from goal
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 27 2008, 10:01 PM
Bonera marking Vargas? Vagas is playing out wide, if anyone should mark him, it would be Brocchi or one of the full backs
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 10:02 PM
and now it is 1-1 in offside goals...and boriello scored again (penalty), fiorentina is leading also
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 10:03 PM
OMG another dissalowed WTF is our defence doing
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 10:04 PM
pippo-gila sub
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 10:05 PM
you can see now and compare...crosses from oddo and crosses from vargas
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 10:05 PM
rino-brocchi so no yoann
Posted by: Portikins Feb 27 2008, 10:05 PM
C'mon ragazzi. 10min.
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 10:05 PM
omg ancelotti, gattuso is coming on...we need to score btw !!!
Posted by: nuh Feb 27 2008, 10:06 PM
umm the score is 1-1 ?
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 10:08 PM
we do need to score but we more look like conceding
Posted by: Portikins Feb 27 2008, 10:08 PM
Grande Ancelotti.
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 10:09 PM
i think besides everything emerson is in form which can help us...he actually isn't useless anymore
Posted by: Minami Feb 27 2008, 10:10 PM
OMG
I can hardly believe that we're playing that bad against catania
i mean it's catania...they are 15th
how can they get soo many chances(and also disallowed goals)!!???
really hope pato or gila will get a goal!!
Posted by: Portikins Feb 27 2008, 10:11 PM
Mexes red carded. The 2nd yellow was pathetic. Great dive by Crespo.
84' Inter 0-1 Roma
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 27 2008, 10:11 PM
Any chance of scoring again a last-min-winner?
Btw. Mexes sent off, so it's 10 against 10 for the last couple of minutes..
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 27 2008, 10:11 PM
Mexes sent off for Roma, lets hope they can still hold on
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 10:13 PM
our crsooing is poor extrmely poor
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 27 2008, 10:14 PM
Javier Zanetti - 1:1,..
Posted by: Portikins Feb 27 2008, 10:14 PM
Zanetti 1-1. So... so predictable.
No team in Italy can beat them.
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 27 2008, 10:15 PM
No team in Italy can beat them.
How can anyone beat them when they get so much help from referees?
Red card for Mexes was BS
Posted by: han2503 Feb 27 2008, 10:18 PM
Fiorentina winning, so it looks like we're heading back to 5th after tonight
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 27 2008, 10:18 PM
Exactly. Or better said, every decent team outside of Italy can beat them..
Posted by: kaka_sheva Feb 27 2008, 10:18 PM
referree for this match is being kinda weird too.
Posted by: vnata001 Feb 27 2008, 10:19 PM
are we really about to draw catania? we're a joke.
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 10:22 PM
we would not deserve to score again a goal like that...
Posted by: Portikins Feb 27 2008, 10:23 PM
FT 1-1
Same shite, different day. No football, no nothing. A completely joke.
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 10:23 PM
after there goal we did not even have a shot
Posted by: maldini03 Feb 27 2008, 10:26 PM
Any one know wherei could see that Pato goal?
Posted by: han2503 Feb 27 2008, 10:26 PM
Ridiculous, esoecially after conceeding and not showing any type of reaction to it whatsoever.
Carlo bringing on Rino instead of Yoann was ridiculous, and this is against Catania here!!!!
Something needs to be done, and that should start with replacing the coach starting next season. No ideas, no sense of edventure, starting with 4 defencive mids against Catania? Come on!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Minami Feb 27 2008, 10:27 PM
we really did nothing after their equalizer...
really pathetic...
so we're 5th after that result...
playing 1:1 against catania that's really shocking!!
Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 10:28 PM
and what did you think before the match...with this kind of starting team, just a strike like the one from pato or lucky which almost gave us goal in the last second can give us 3 points...why the hell do we gave gourcuff, isn't he a sub for kaka or pirlo...well i've never seen him on the attacking midfield position, the one where he can really play well...and ok, i understand carlo wants to play with more than 1 def.mids, but 2 is more then ***** enough against catania...and emerson is showing good improvement, so why not play yoann with him and ambro, whyyyyyy
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 10:29 PM
other than pato and emerson most of our other players were clowns on the field.... and the goal we cocnded i think Maldini was supposed to be covering the scorer
Posted by: rhy_A4 Feb 27 2008, 10:29 PM
two words PISSED OFF
Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 27 2008, 10:31 PM
Carlo bringing on Rino instead of Yoann was ridiculous, and this is against Catania here!!!!
Something needs to be done, and that should start with replacing the coach starting next season. No ideas, no sense of edventure, starting with 4 defencive mids against Catania? Come on!!!!!!!!!
Don't worry. we'll beat Arsenal and everything will be forgotten.
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 10:32 PM
ambro was terrible today and last season our full backs Janku and oddo were excellent in crossing this time around our crosses are awfull no matter who it is
Posted by: dst Feb 27 2008, 10:32 PM
That was real bad once again!! With 3 dmf's and our defense looked worse than ever!! When is Ancelotti finally going to learn that it's not the sheer number of defensive players that provide stability at the back...
Ridiculous display by all the mortals but Pato!
And the officiating was also pretty awful... destroyed the game! I think Catania deserved all 3 points from this game!
And Inter did not lose, damn it!!
Now Lazio and then Arsenal. I expect one more bad game against Lazio...
Back to 5th place. At least Udinese lost (by Parma! ) and are out of the 4th place race. We need to step up cause the Viola are not kidding with this...
Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 27 2008, 10:32 PM
Gourcuff or not, I suppose the difference would be minor, if not zero..
Posted by: Minami Feb 27 2008, 10:33 PM
how many disallowed goals did they actually shoot??
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 10:34 PM
he would have done something more than brocchi atleast in attack..
Posted by: rhy_A4 Feb 27 2008, 10:36 PM
Carlo bringing on Rino instead of Yoann was ridiculous, and this is against Catania here!!!!
Something needs to be done, and that should start with replacing the coach starting next season. No ideas, no sense of edventure, starting with 4 defencive mids against Catania? Come on!!!!!!!!!
i think he shouldve brought on Gourcuff and maybe rested Gattuso , i heard Brocchi didnt take it to well when he got subed
, now we are 5th again its going to be a battle until the end of the season could be very close if we dont capitalize on these kind of games but we have had trouble with this team in particular in the past i didnt expect them to roll over as they have beaten us before so that gave them confidence.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 27 2008, 10:37 PM
Can somebody give me a link of Pato's goal? I'm eager to see it.
Posted by: maldini03 Feb 27 2008, 10:39 PM
Me Too
Posted by: han2503 Feb 27 2008, 10:42 PM
I'm not counting on that, I actually see Arsenal going through. We might have done it last season playing like cr@p against Celtic but we aren't going to pull off that kind of cr@p against a much better, faster team that we can't keep up with
Especially considering the fact that our most vital players are playing p!ss poor and/or coming from injury.
Atleast he would have been a much better choice then Rino who did nothing different to our game. Carlo just needs to go, I think all of us have had enough of his cr@p.
Even with the team we went out with today we should have won against Catania, I don't think we even had a game plan, just punt the ball r cross it in and see what happens. And the constant backward passing in midfield was just indicator enough of how devoid of ideas we are
Posted by: KillerMax Feb 27 2008, 10:42 PM
We're struggling against Catania... And we could only get a draw with he ref's help. He was obviously favoring us all game and disallowed two good goals.
Why doesn't Carlo try something like this:
------------Kalac-------------
Oddo Bonera Maldini Favalli
----------Ambrosini----------
------Emerson Gourcuff-----
------------Seedorf-----------
---------Pato Inzaghi---------
Ambrosini is obviously being played out of position... And what the hell was Brocchi's job on the field? Did Ancelotti give him a free role or was a "defensive winger"? 
What the hell is Ancelotti thinking approaching these games with so much caution and lack of ideas....
Posted by: dst Feb 27 2008, 10:43 PM
In my opinion, Gattuso had to come on and we worked a lot better defensive-wise when he did but Gourcuff had to be introduced as well in Ambro's place.
Maldini 1000 + 2
-------------------
Kalac 6.5
Bonera 6
Cafu 4 / Oddo 5
Favalli 5
Ambro 6
Seedorf 6
Brocchi 3 / Gattuso 5.5
Emerson 6.5 When this happens you know you've played bad.
Pato 7.5
Pippo 4 / Gila 5
Posted by: Portikins Feb 27 2008, 10:43 PM
It's even painful to watch a Milan match nowadays.
But that's not a surprise looking at our poor squad. In fact we don't have a squad. We've a good XI and 1 or 2 good subs, nothing more.
That's why we can't compete on CL and Serie A at the same time. If each of our XI players were 5 years younger... then maybe. Now? Impossible.
Posted by: rhy_A4 Feb 27 2008, 10:45 PM
everyone knows how we play in Serie A maybe its time we used wingers ???? or stop playing through the middle against teams who obivioulsy are going to defend deep against us !!
Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 27 2008, 10:48 PM
PATO'S GOAL LINK, DAMMIT
Posted by: dst Feb 27 2008, 10:50 PM
Ermm... yeah...
Posted by: KillerMax Feb 27 2008, 10:51 PM
Here are my ratings:
Kalac(6)
Cafu(5)
Bonera(5)
Maldini(4.5)
Favalli(5)
Emerson(6.5)
Ambrosini(5)
Brocchi(4)
Seedorf(4)
Pato(7)
Inzaghi(5)
Oddo(5)
Gattuso(5)
Gilardino(N/A)
Ancelotti (0)
Posted by: fahad Feb 27 2008, 10:51 PM
the only depth we have is DM postition which is wisely used with atleast 3 in one game
Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 27 2008, 10:52 PM
Kalac(6)
Cafu(5)
Bonera(5)
Maldini(4.5)
Favalli(5)
Emerson(6.5)
Ambrosini(5)
Brocchi(4)
Seedorf(4)
Pato(7)
Inzaghi(5)
Oddo(5)
Gattuso(5)
Gilardino(N/A)
Ancelotti (0)
martikeye ahmagh liaghatesh hamineh ...
Posted by: Portikins Feb 27 2008, 10:55 PM
Pato goal: http://www.d1g.com/video/show/1825387
Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 27 2008, 10:57 PM
Pato will surpass Gila in number of league goals this season... mark my words.
8 games 5 goals. amazing for a player who's only 18 [got it people? fvcking 18!] and has debuted less than two months ago...
Keep it up ducky!
Posted by: KillerMax Feb 27 2008, 10:57 PM
It's all confusing. I think he fields 3 defensive midfielders, because he doesn't have other solid options. And that goes back to the confusion as he keeps saying the team is good the way it is. He could have requested for an attacking midfielder in January. I mean why put yourself in such a pickle... I'm not there, I don't know what's going on... But Carletto's lack of demanding new players has gotten us here.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 27 2008, 10:59 PM
Thanks Porty.
I just can't search anything in that weird website. it confuses me with all those Arabic writings...
Posted by: IoRDanCHo Feb 27 2008, 11:03 PM
If Milan fans from Italy don't take it in their hands, I'll sell my car and buy a ticket to Milano and a machine gun and will kill that motherfu**er, called Anchelotti!
Instead of bringing Gourcuff in, only for the idea that he is a offensive player, he bring Gattuso! Starting with 3 defansive players including that piece of s*it Ambrosini and bringing in Gill who was no where to be seen when he entered game... Now, I don't this will go on, but if nothing is going to be changed in future, I'll have to watch the Milan games from prison!!!
Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 27 2008, 11:09 PM
No other option? what is Yoann then? I know he's nowhere near Kaka or Turtle, but when we want to attack, he'll be more useful than Brocchi. I just have no idea what's going inside his head... he COULD have played Pato as a trequartista! believe me! it's not worse than playing with three defensive midfielders! it's clear we lacked creativity in the middle... though I didn't see the match but I know what I'm talking about. it's the 129836346394th time we experience this problem...
[Nice goal from Ale btw
]
Posted by: KillerMax Feb 27 2008, 11:11 PM
]Class goal. The only thing that encourages me to keep watching Milan's games.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 27 2008, 11:16 PM
Me too.
he deserves a better squad behind him! maybe next season...
Posted by: Portikins Feb 27 2008, 11:16 PM
Same here.
Posted by: Diavolo Feb 27 2008, 11:17 PM
Well guys, Massimino (stadium) of Catania was never a happy place for Milan and always a difficult one (although we didn't played agains them in the years when we were the best - Sacchi era, Capello era and 3-4 years ago when we played best football with this squad ). In fact last win in Catania for Milan was in 1964 when we won 1-0 with a goal from Altafini.
From then we met Catania in Serie A 6 times (including tonight)... and guess what... all of the results were draws 1-1 (except one 0-0):
13 MAGGIO 2007: CATANIA- MILAN 1-1 (36' GIORNATA - STAGIONE 2006/2007)
12 FEBBRAIO 1984: CATANIA- MILAN 1-1 (19' GIORNATA - STAGIONE 1983/1984)
25 APRILE 1971: CATANIA- MILAN 0-0 (27' GIORNATA - STAGIONE 1970/1971)
16 GENNAIO 1976: CATANIA- MILAN 1-1 (17' GIORNATA - STAGIONE 1975/1976)
24 GENNAIO 1965: CATANIA- MILAN 1-1 (18' GIORNATA - STAGIONE 1964/1965)
So you see that tonight result is no surprise especialy if you look in what form we are right now and the fact that we were playing without Nesta, Kaka, Pirlo, Kaladze and Jankulovski (especialy the first three).
On the other hand there are 13 more rounds to go...
Next is Lazio and this is a must win game at home, because we must take advantage of the game Juventus:Fiorentina (wors case IF we win and Fiora wins, we will still be 5th, but we will be 3 points behind Juve and 2 behind Fiorentina).
FORZA MILAN!!!
Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 27 2008, 11:28 PM
i dunno just back and dint see the game. 3 def mids again? did gourcuff play? cuz i'm sure he dint. does carlo learn at all? who assisted on the winning goal last game, cuz everyone was praising pippo for the goal but hey who put that cross on his head?
anyways i have to laugh at some of these reactions that were surprised at the way milan played today. for the better part of 2 years milan have played poorly against everyone, and especially against small sides. dont get this confused with milan in the past having trouble winning against small sides. no milan have outright stunk even against the regelation battling teams. is this result isnt surprising at all.
not only is QUALITY lacking, but i dont see any winning mentality in the way they play.
disturbing really...
Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 27 2008, 11:34 PM
thats it.
honestly i couldn't care less about inter cuz in the end all i care about is milan. now using this situation as a barometer. milan are barely good enough for 4th, and inter whether you think is the best team i italy or not is miles ahead of milan and teams outside italy can beat inter it goes to show how poor milan is... it's scary really.
even if we get past arsenal. does suddenly mean were fine?
one result and were cured? it's a culmination of results over the past 2 seasons that indicate how much we lack.
anyways this isnt directed at you personally but what i wanted to say stems from what you said.
Posted by: dst Feb 27 2008, 11:55 PM
8 games 5 goals. amazing for a player who's only 18 [got it people? fvcking 18!] and has debuted less than two months ago...
Keep it up ducky!
It's much more amazing than you describe it. He plays in a painfully slow and defensive-minded team and gets much less support than he should. Had he been with us 3 years earlier he would even have a chance to get close to the 30 goals mark Don Silvio talked about...
I can't believe that any coach in the world would be satisfied with this squad. It just can't be true. It's just the policy of the Milan board of the last two seasons that has led us here. I hope this will change in the summer.
Posted by: arivanjj Feb 28 2008, 12:20 AM
another draw
Posted by: Tennie Feb 28 2008, 12:22 AM
Here are Controcampo's ratings:
Kalac 6, Cafu 5.5 (22' st Oddo 6), Bonera 6, Maldini 6, Favalli 6, Brocchi 6 (34' st Gattuso s.v.) Emerson 5.5 , Ambrosini 6, Seedorf 5.5, Pato 6.5, Inzaghi 5.5 (31' st Gilardino s.v).
Here are datasport's ratings:
Kalac 6.5, Bonera 6, Maldini 6, Favalli 5.5, Cafu 5.5, Oddo 6, Brocchi 5.5, Seedorf 5.5, Gattuso s.v., Ambrosini 6, Emerson 6, Gilardino s.v., Pato 6.5, Inzaghi 5.5
Posted by: LaPalma Feb 28 2008, 12:34 AM
It really becomes a bit boring...we (rightfully) complain about the same things week in week out
Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 28 2008, 12:38 AM
it really comes down to milan, were here to talk about them. so if they wanna sit on their **** then nothing will change.
Posted by: Il Capitano Feb 28 2008, 02:28 AM
Yeah it's getting old, I don't even have the strength to complain about it anymore.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 28 2008, 07:11 AM
His future, my friend, is bright...
You think why is Carlo so much loved by Galliani?
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 28 2008, 08:13 AM
Upon seeing the game, it was just.. dull. There just seemed no spark or desire by either team to go out and win it. We got a great goal from Pato, but fell to sleep right after scoring, this is not what experienced defenders should be doing!
We can't afford to drop more points against Lazio, hopefully it'll be something like the game between us at the Olimpico!
Posted by: misha Feb 28 2008, 09:50 AM
We couldn't beat Catania in both league games this season (and I'm not even mentioning the Coppa). This season is so pathetic. We are losing to all these small teams like Empoli at home and drawing with the likes of Catania all the time and getting used to it. I'm not even angry anymore. It has became a routine
Posted by: kdman Feb 28 2008, 01:28 PM
Very true. It's like playing the same old music for the 100000th time
Posted by: acid911 Feb 28 2008, 05:15 PM
February 28 2008, 8:13:24
Carlo Ancelotti has demanded that AC Milan stop throwing away valuable points.
The Rossoneri coach saw his side squander a 1-0 lead at Catania to end up drawing 1-1 in Sicily.
The result meant that the European champions slipped out of the final Champions League berth, two points behind Fiorentina.
The 48-year-old said: "We wasted an opportunity here, as we took the lead and were unable to then secure an important result.
"We allowed ourselves to be taken by surprise on their equaliser which was disappointing. We aren't sharp enough at the moment."
Despite their inconsistent form, which has seen the San Siro giants draw three out of their last five outings, the form of Alexandre Pato has been one major positive point.
The Brazilian was on target at the Massimino stadium and Ancelotti claimed: "Pato's goal was world class."
The 18-year-old sensation, who only burst on to the Serie A scene in January, has already scored five goals from eight appearances to make him the team's third-top goalscorer.
In the picture, Alexandre Pato in the build-up to his goal at Catania
Only with the Alexandre Pato-Ricky Kaka tandem will AC Milan finish in a top-four position. What do you think?
http://www.seriea.tv/NewsDetails.asp?articolo=1169
If I were Ancelotti I'd stop making demands, and start fielding more attacking formations. I mean Favalli, Brocchi, Emerson, Ambrosini in the same line up should be classified as a crime - particularly against teams like Catania.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 28 2008, 05:23 PM
If he was asked why he didn't field a different team for league games, he'd probably come up with some crappy excuse about how the players get tired playing so many games. What he doesn't realise is that Inter, United, Madrid, etc. all have to play the same amount of games as us at the moment, if not more.
Posted by: gal_kenny Feb 28 2008, 05:36 PM
We need more Attack Minded Players..Just look at Barcelona, Man u, chelsea, Real Madrid and even Inter Milan...Sometimes i get really jealous of this teams especially barcelona..Only Kaka and Pato puts fear into other teams..SEEDORF IS ON AND OFF..I know we world champions but we cannot be playing with the same context anymore..We need people that can hold on to the ball and make defense quivver. AC Milan needs a lot of things. We need help!! From Rikaard's point of view and Ancelotti's point of view, it is really different. We also need good replacements.Our bench compared to other benches in other teams is crap. Sell the old players on d bench or let them retire or something.I'm tired of keeping this in my mind..Just felt i should let ya'll know!!
Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 28 2008, 05:54 PM
You're right. 100% agreed. hopefully this summer that'll happen!
Posted by: acid911 Feb 28 2008, 06:19 PM
Then for Pete's sake play the other players in the squad: Gorcuff, Simic, Paloschi, Bonera, instead of slow and old legs. If you have to draw against mid-table teams, then I'd much rather draw with younger players - at least they'll gain something from this. Leave the tiring players for important matches.
Seedorf should only play ten games at max in the league per season: only against the top five clubs. The chance he squandered in this match early in the game was only because of his slow movement. And that proved critical in the end. Just because you're unique and have won 4 Champion Leagues with different clubs doesn't make you an automatic starter:
Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 28 2008, 07:42 PM
LOL! is that fvcked up fork Seedorf?
Posted by: Tennie Feb 28 2008, 07:46 PM
. o O (But dst would say that its @ss isn't big enough!)
I'm thinking that in retrospect it's a good thing I didn't have a chance to watch this game. Pretty dire all round.
Posted by: acid911 Feb 28 2008, 07:48 PM
Lol, yeah. At least in Seria A against smaller teams.
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