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Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 2 2008, 01:49 AM

Might as well Open a thread for the next transfer window. Obviously there wont be many rumors right now but when you hear of some it would be nice to post em here.

I guess we can start with what we hope our squad will look like e.i. players that will/should leave and which positions should be filled

Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 2 2008, 02:06 AM


Changes that I want


Goalkeeper
OUT:Dida or kalac out, the one that remains plays backup
IN: no.1 keeper (a must)


Defenders

OUT: maldini (retiring), seginho (retire already!), cafu (retire already!), favalli (retire already!)... no more 50 year old fullabacks sleep.gif
IN: world class CB, 1 RB and 1 LB


Midfielders

OUT:Brocchi GTFO, ba... rolleyes.gif what is he even doing here...
IN: Right sided midfielder. Essien?wub.gif


Forwards

OUT:inzaghi should retire or ronaldo leave cuz we dont need two crippled forwards.
IN:1 WC forward

Posted by: Tennie Feb 2 2008, 02:17 AM

I'll make one early request re: new players.

realmad.gif realmad.gif realmad.gif BRING US ZAMBROTTA!

Posted by: arivanjj Feb 2 2008, 02:30 AM

i don't think any major transaction will take place beyond our defensive recruitments!

Posted by: Darunia Feb 2 2008, 04:37 AM

There is a high probability Zambrotta will arrive (finally). A world-class CB would be great, but unlikely.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 2 2008, 05:26 AM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Feb 1 2008, 10:37 PM)
There is a high probability Zambrotta will arrive (finally).  A world-class CB would be great, but unlikely.
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if milan are content with 4th,5th,6th in the league then they wont get any world class players.

Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 2 2008, 08:04 AM

as long as milan finish top 4 he'll get world class player...milan is still milan ;)and who doesn't want to play for milan...

Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 2 2008, 09:05 AM

QUOTE (aLbErTo @ Feb 2 2008, 02:04 AM)
as long as milan finish top 4 he'll get world class player...milan is still milan ;)and who doesn't want to play for milan...
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huh.gif ?unless we win the scudetto then we need that world class player(s) if we wanna have any chance at winning anything next year.

and if we dont end up in the top 4 well it's even more of a reason to get that WC player.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 2 2008, 10:46 AM

Pato only played half of this year, so next season will be his first full season - so he'll kind of be a summer '08 transfer.

Who's betting they'll come up with something like this? rolleyes.gif

Being serious. Zambrotta would be great, a good Italian CB at a decent age (Not 28+). Anything else is asking too much from the board going on their recent windows.

Posted by: nmcg Feb 2 2008, 12:08 PM

CB- Cristián Zapata or Andrea Barzagli or Lúcio

MF- Montolivo or (Flamini- his free to talk to any club gud offer then maybe could happen)

Forward- Amauri or Mutu or drogba or huntelaar smile.gif

that be my shoping list if only there waz a santa unsure.gif

Posted by: dst Feb 2 2008, 12:18 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 2 2008, 11:46 AM)
Pato only played half of this year, so next season will be his first full season - so he'll kind of be a summer '08 transfer.
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Posted by: nmcg Feb 2 2008, 12:21 PM

and Benzema he be a gud buy for us smile.gif king.gif devil.gif

Posted by: LaPalma Feb 2 2008, 12:55 PM

My wish list:

- Barzagli
- Drogba
- Zambrotta
- Adler


A new, at least very solid, CB is existential for us. Barzagli would be my first
choice cause he's italian. Otherwise Sergio Ramos would be my, unrealizable, wish.
Drogba would be the best choice for our attack. He might be the best forward in the world right now. Plus, he's not always injured.
Zambrotta...well, we all know why we need him.
A new goalie would be very, very nice too. Leverkusens René Adler would be my first choice here.

What WILL happen? Zambrotta seems to be a very realistic transfer and a new CB might come in too. My other wishes will most likely be still wishes in the end of the next transfer window.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 2 2008, 01:03 PM

I'd agree with what LaPalma says. I've not seen much of Adler, but only heard good things about him. The other 3 are what we need to move forward. But as he said, they'll probably still be just wishes come September 1st.

Posted by: Tennie Feb 2 2008, 01:25 PM

I agree with La Palma's picks. Having watched a good deal of Bundesliga games, I definitely agree about Adler. The only thing not going for him is his age - he's quite young.

If we're talking fantasy picks, I'd also put out Giorgio Chiellini of the Zebras as a good pick. He can play CB and LB and he's good.

Posted by: dst Feb 2 2008, 01:56 PM

I'm with LaPalma too.

GK: Buffon (for some reason I still believe we can sign him if we want to)/Adler/Akinfeev
FB: Zambrotta + a young RB even if he's the cheapest there is (recall Marzoratti)
CB: Barzagli
FW: Drogba / Benzema

And of course as LaPalma said, we'll most probably only sign Zambrotta and a CB. sad.gif

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 2 2008, 06:23 PM

Defenders:

Zambrotta obviously.

Simic released (though I'd prefer it to not happen, and Simic simply take Kaladze place in the pecking order).

I know this might be unpopular, but I'd prefer to push up Bonera (imo Barzagli is no better than Daniele given enough play time)

Also recall Marzoratti and have Darmian to take Simic's place

Strikers:

If Ronaldo is not here next season, then obviously a top support striker, like I don't know...there aren't many good second strikers left (Mo, don't bring up R10 again).

If Ronaldo and Pippo are here, I want someone like JDT or Gudjohnsen. For those stubborn sides like Atalanta etc. Guys who can drop to mid-field and graft, and still be useful in scoring goals, while being quiet on the bench.

Midfield

I've said it once, I'll say it again, without Andy P our mid-field is as lethal as a samurai with a toothpick.

Once again an unpopular opinion I know, but I'd take Deco. He's the perfect blend of player who can graft at will, and also go forward in attack. Would also be an excellent addition as a sub.


^^^
In the words of Groucho, these are my opinions, if you don't like them- I have others. tongue.gif


But mine are a lot less ambitious than all of yours, I have tried to keep it as realistic as possible.

Lemme see...

Zambrotta:

15- 18 mill euros

JDT/Eidur: 7-12 mill euros

Top class SS: 25-20 mill euros (esp since it's MILAN on the market rolleyes.gif)

Deco: 12 mill euros


I forgot the GK. I'm just gonna stick with our current ones now. I'd rather see our 'mediocre' GK being protected by a intelligent defence, than our 'superlative'(mega million pound) goalkeeper, saving 8 out of 10 shots thanks to a 'mediocre' defence

Posted by: dst Feb 2 2008, 06:34 PM

Jack... first of all, do not underestimate the samurai!

Our midfield without Andy P is like Porty's posts without the word cvnto...

Secondly... Deco a sub!?? And 12 millions? Less than Zambrotta?? What are you talking about cap'n, the man is a magnificent player, no bench quality of course and he's not going to come for less than 15 million.

We're not going to sign a midfielder anyway... even if I'd love to see him or Essien in Milan.

Zambrotta I think will cost less than 10 million... probably around 8... we wouldn't be interested in him if that was not the case... the Eidur price tag you set is too high also I believe.

I think Barzagli is better than Bonera but then again, I could be wrong. The thing is, I have not seen many games of Bonera in his last two seasons... he was good at Parma. On the other hand Barzagli has gotten better and better. I don't know... it's supposed to be a Maldini replacement anyway so my choice would be Puyol or Toure but...

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 2 2008, 07:09 PM

QUOTE
Jack... first of all, do not underestimate the samurai!


I wasn't. tongue.gif You were underestimating the Milan MF. You see Clarence just might wake up. wink.gif And then Pirlo or no Pirlo, there will be magic.

I'm not much into finances. WTF would Mo do if I knew everything... tongue.gif

I was pulling into play, that Deco might want out of Barcelona for one.

Secondly, that Zambrotta has started contributing to Barca, and Barca realise that Milan want Zambrotta badly enough. Don't forget they paid nearly 15 for him.

You're right Deco normally would not be a sub, but we're talking about building the greatest mid-field on earth so... rolleyes.gif

We're agreeing about Bonera. I just feel he will be as good if given enough playing time. But can he take over the mantle when Nesta bids adieu, I don't know.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 2 2008, 07:28 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Feb 2 2008, 05:34 PM)
Our midfield without Andy P is like Porty's posts without the word cvnto...
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laugh.gif laugh.gif

You really have to have a go at doing the quotes of the week thing again, some things on here are just priceless. biggrin.gif

Posted by: vnata001 Feb 3 2008, 01:03 AM

Jack is right. Bonera is good. If we could just buy some good left and right backs we could play bonera in center back where he is solid.

Attack:

Recall Boriello, Sign Benzema. (Pato, Benzema, Pippo, Boriello)
- I like Marco. He plays with fire in his eyes. He was over doing it his first stint here, but now hell return more confident, and could be a pleasant surprise.
- Benzema is a monster. He has the frame and same instinct that Julio Cruz and Ruud have. Has a LETHAL shot, i mean lethal. He scores from 25+ every two weeks, and im not exaggerating. hes got good moves too..I am 100% sold that he will be the greatest striker in the world for the next decade in terms of sheer goal scoring. If we could somehow get Benzema and Pato together that would be incredible and we would have the best attack around.

Midfield:

If Deco is leaving..HE is every bit as good as Andrea Pirlo..and attacks well enough to displace seedorf. I really like this idea. (Kaka, Seedorf, Deco, Pirlo, Rino) Even when we have to play Christmas tree, Deco is a great Attacking Mid too..and complements Kaka well. Plus with Deco, Clarence would be forced to raise his game.

Defense:
Oddo is so average, I'm pretty much over him. Zambo is good for the left, now we need to go out and find ourselves a nice RB just like Inter did when they plucked Maicon from Monaco..

Posted by: Portikins Feb 3 2008, 01:26 AM

Damn. Summa-list.

What's going to happen? [My predictions]

GK: Frey
D: Zambrotta, Mexes
M: ?
F: Amauri

What I'd want for the Summer?

-Mourinho
-Mourinho wish-list

Posted by: august_milan Feb 3 2008, 06:40 AM

WISH LIST 08:

GK- AMELIA, CUDICINI
FB- LAHM, ZAMBROTTA, ALVES, EBOUE, GROSSO, ZACCARDO
CB- BARZAGLI, RAMOS, MEXES, VELOSO
MF- FLAMINI, QUARESMA, VAN DER VAART, AQUILANI
ST- TORRES, MUTU, VILLA, ETO, ADRIANO, A

Posted by: august_milan Feb 3 2008, 06:44 AM

id be happy with any one of thoes players if not more:D

Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 3 2008, 09:43 AM

- Barzagli (he will probably go to Juve or any other team that challenges for the Scudetto not CL qualification zone)

- Zambrotta (mark my words: he will be our only summer signing!!)

- Drogba (if Mou goes to Barca, he will too. and that seems to be the case)


GK: I don't think we'll have any changes... Dida will stay... unfortunately...

Midfield: Haha!...

Posted by: Portikins Feb 3 2008, 02:39 PM

QUOTE (august_milan @ Feb 3 2008, 05:40 AM)
WISH LIST 08:

GK- AMELIA, CUDICINI
FB- LAHM, ZAMBROTTA, ALVES, EBOUE, GROSSO, ZACCARDO
CB- BARZAGLI, RAMOS, MEXES, VELOSO
MF- FLAMINI, QUARESMA, VAN DER VAART, AQUILANI
ST- TORRES, MUTU, VILLA, ETO, ADRIANO, A
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Lahm, Alves, Ramos, Quaresma, Torres, Villa, Eto'o and Adriano seem impossible to me.

Flamini? omfg. I'd turn Nerazzurri if that little f ever wear the Rossoneri shirt.
And Veloso is good as midfielder. Not as defender.

Posted by: august_milan Feb 3 2008, 04:26 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Feb 3 2008, 06:39 AM)
Lahm, Alves, Ramos, Quaresma, Torres, Villa, Eto'o and Adriano seem impossible to me.
And Veloso is good as midfielder. Not as defender.
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Of course they seem impossible because milan don't even try to get these types of players. you got chelsea who come knocking on our door and want sheva and they get him, but when we need to buy an establihsed player we settle for inter rejects or players nearing retirement.

Buying any one of these players is a great investment. now i agree not all of them would would have a chance to come because some are untransferable, like torres just went to liverpool, but we should have baught him, he was linked with a milan move but they didnt even try.

Lahm, Alves and Quaresma i think are transferable but we will need to be willing to open our pockets, especially Quaresma who is speculated to leave because of his fans turning on him, but said he prefers spain if he had to leave.

Ramos depends if he wants to leave, if theres a will theres a way he will find his way to milan if he desires, Villa would be amazing but i dunno what he thinks bout staying at valencia....hes not in the press much. with Eto, one week hes gonna stay the next hes gonna go, if he ever wants to leave milan should pounce on the opportunity.

And finally Adriano, after his loan spell is up if inter still think he is not apart of the clubs future he said he would like to come to milan, a great replacement for Ronaldo when we whip him back in shape.

And Veloso can play both mid and defence but he is a defender. Milan just need to be more agressive in the transfer market, get rid of usless players and make some solid additions to the team.

Posted by: drizzt Feb 4 2008, 03:45 PM

My Summer 08 Wishlist

STRIKER/FORWARD:
DI NATALE / BENZEMA (Recall BORIELLO)

MIDFIELDER:
MONTOLIVO (Loan out BROCCHI to Viola, Give GOURCUFF more playing time).

DEFENDER:
BARZAGLI / NALDO, ZAMBROTTA (Keep SIMIC, Recall MARZORATTI)

GOALKEEPER:
BUFFON / FREY

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Posted by: dst Feb 5 2008, 03:09 PM

Greek newspapers (crediting Italian sources) claim Milan are watching 3 keepers among possible others:

- Almeria's Diego Alves, Brazilian, 22 years old, 1.85m tall. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J8pnI2QDQQ
- Villareal's Diego López, Spanish, 26 years old, 1.96m tall, a Real reject. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q8i0eTHbTQ
- Nice's Hugo Lloris, French, 21 years old, 1.86m tall. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxL-DOiUN38

I have only seen the first one a couple of times and he never caught attention. Maybe he did not get the chance to, I do not remember.

Anyway, this is probably just rumors (fueled by agents) but...

Now, I'd say that Milan are going to keep Dida and sign no one for the GK position... but there's a long time till till June, we'll see...

Posted by: august_milan Feb 5 2008, 11:45 PM

i agree with dst....but i still dont think its the smart thing to do...kalac has been good the last few games but he mishandled the ball 4 or 5 times n i dont think is solid enough to be a full time replacement....but well deserves runner up, but dida is not getting any younger, any healthier or any more consistant, now is the time to invest in a good goalie im not sayin let him start but let him train with the team for a while to develop and grow some confidence instead of eventually having to buy a goalie and throwing out to the sharks and start blaming him if he cant handel the pressure.

Posted by: Tennie Feb 6 2008, 12:05 AM

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Posted by: dst Feb 6 2008, 12:13 AM

QUOTE (august_milan @ Feb 6 2008, 12:45 AM)
now is the time to invest in a good goalie im not sayin let him start but let him train with the team for a while to develop and grow some confidence instead of eventually having to buy a goalie and throwing out to the sharks and start blaming him if he cant handel the pressure.
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This is exactly what we must do with Curci!

Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 6 2008, 05:04 AM

akinfeev !!! how are our primavera gk doing, do we have any good talents ??

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 6 2008, 05:20 AM

@aLbErTo: 10ster is going ga-ga over Offredi. I'm hoping it's not because he's good looking.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 6 2008, 10:32 AM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 6 2008, 02:35 AM)
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[DIEGO LOPEZ!]

Posted by: dst Feb 6 2008, 10:45 AM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Feb 6 2008, 11:32 AM)
[DIEGO LOPEZ!]
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Don't want no Spaniards in Milan. Especially a Real reject!

Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 6 2008, 03:37 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 6 2008, 06:20 AM)
@aLbErTo: 10ster is going ga-ga over Offredi. I'm hoping it's not because he's good looking.
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akinfeev then or hugo lloris (2 young gk, one having big amount of experience already)...i think that akinfeev could be the best gk in 5yr

meanwhile, i really like barcelona's signing lately...21-year-old defender Ezequiel Garay is their new signing, and he is kind of great talent, while therefore this could extend romours about Puyol's transfer (hint for galliani)...

Posted by: Tennie Feb 6 2008, 03:44 PM

Offredi has sounded very promising, yes.

But if Milan had a chance to get Akinfeev, I'd go for it in a heartbeat - IF he has regained the kind of form he had before his injury. Akinfeev even over Adler (who I also think is phenomenal).

Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 6 2008, 05:21 PM

is he over already?? he was injured pretty badly...

Posted by: Tennie Feb 8 2008, 03:54 PM

Akinfeev played in Russia's last qualifying game for Euro 2008. I think it was his first match back though, so he hasn't been playing much or for long.

Interesting snippet in the (not always reliable) Italian gossip press. They're saying that Koeman has decided that David Villa is surplus to requirements at Valencia and that he can be bought in the summer for somewhere around 25 million.

Posted by: Darunia Feb 8 2008, 07:34 PM

He's been in poor form this year, although so have the rest of the squad basically... I don't know how he would be considered "surplus" though.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 8 2008, 07:36 PM

^^^
Villa up for grabs??

Pana just creamed his pants...oops...was that a naughty thing to say... heh heh tongue.gif unsure.gif

Posted by: dst Feb 8 2008, 09:17 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 8 2008, 04:54 PM)
Interesting snippet in the (not always reliable) Italian gossip press. They're saying that Koeman has decided that David Villa is surplus to requirements at Valencia and that he can be bought in the summer for somewhere around 25 million.
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huh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Ahahahaha!! Where are they going to oust this joke of a coach!???? laugh.gif

This just can't be true.

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 8 2008, 08:36 PM)
Pana just creamed his pants...oops...was that a naughty thing to say... heh heh tongue.gif unsure.gif
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Naughty boy, you want some cream?

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 9 2008, 05:40 AM

QUOTE (dst @ Feb 8 2008, 02:17 PM)
Naughty boy, you want some cream?
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That's disgusting man... Is that something Alexander the Great would say?

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 9 2008, 05:47 AM

^^^

ohmy.gif Whatcho talkin about man?? Pana was just asking me how I liked my coffee. tongue.gif

Posted by: dst Feb 9 2008, 05:32 PM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Feb 9 2008, 06:40 AM)
That's disgusting man... Is that something Alexander the Great would say?
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Ermm... yeah actually, he was bysexual! biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 9 2008, 06:47 AM)
ohmy.gif Whatcho talkin about man?? Pana was just asking me how I liked my coffee. tongue.gif
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So... how do you like your coffee? cool.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 12 2008, 03:55 PM

Ferrari en route to Milan?

Reports in the peninsula suggest that Roma defender Matteo Ferrari will sign a deal with Milan at the end of the season.

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/feb12i.html




Is this how we're gonna replace Maldini, the greatest defender in the history of this club?! Ferrari?! puke.gif I just hope it's BS...

Posted by: misha Feb 12 2008, 04:14 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Feb 12 2008, 04:55 PM)
Is this how we're gonna replace Maldini, the greatest defender in the history of this club?! Ferrari?! puke.gif I just hope it's BS...
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Ferrari maybe to replace Kaladze ot both Kaladze and Simic, but of course not instead of the great one.

Posted by: dst Feb 15 2008, 09:34 PM

Do Betis have any good players? We were after Sobis... is he any good now?

Posted by: Portikins Feb 15 2008, 10:19 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 8 2008, 02:54 PM)
Interesting snippet in the (not always reliable) Italian gossip press. They're saying that Koeman has decided that David Villa is surplus to requirements at Valencia and that he can be bought in the summer for somewhere around 25 million.
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QUOTE (dst @ Feb 8 2008, 08:17 PM)
huh.gif  laugh.gif laugh.gif  laugh.gif Ahahahaha!! Where are they going to oust this joke of a coach!????  laugh.gif
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He's one of the worst coaches I've ever seen.

Though Villa out of Valencia wouldn't surprise me. Chelsea or Inter would certainly thank.
A friend of mine from Spain (Atletico Madrid fan) told me David Villa would move to Inter next Summer to pair up with Ibrahimovic. I really hope it's just b/s.

I'd love to have him in Milan, a shame it's only on FM/PES. dry.gif
It'll never happen.

Posted by: dst Feb 15 2008, 10:54 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Feb 15 2008, 11:19 PM)
A friend of mine from Spain (Atletico Madrid fan) told me David Villa would move to Inter next Summer to pair up with Ibrahimovic. I really hope it's just b/s.

I'd love to have him in Milan, a shame it's only on FM/PES.  dry.gif
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Νοοοοο... I like your friend though, you should learn from him... wink.gif biggrin.gif

Yep... only on FM...

Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 17 2008, 08:43 PM

Now that Ronaldo is injured until at least January 2009, we can be more than sure about /finally/ signing a world class striker in the summer. I wonder who that'll be...

Posted by: Tennie Feb 17 2008, 09:34 PM

What do people think of Lyon's Karim Benzema?

(With apologies to Misha, please let the gossip rags in England be wrong; I really don't want Milan to buy the Ukrainian who's struggling at Chelsea).

Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 17 2008, 09:55 PM

I think if Milan are going to get a forward of some sort, it needs to be a proven goal scorer with experience. We have Pato, Paloschii and Gila who all fairly/very young, so we don't need another youngster in my opinion.

Posted by: Bluesummers Feb 17 2008, 10:16 PM

abramovich has said drogba's selling price is 35 million euro. Worth it or no?

Posted by: august_milan Feb 17 2008, 10:20 PM

pay 35 million euros for a player thats only gonna cause problems in the dressing room? we woulda been better off to get cassano! and he would cost alot less!

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 18 2008, 05:09 AM

^^^

Oh so contrary to what I expected...I do have company over Cassano.

Kewwlll.. Daru...Live long and prosper my brother!!

Cassano is probably among the best SS in Italy right now. Yes, he's probably one of the few forwards who is a bigger cvnto than Zlatan...but I always thought his problems at Roma were because he was dealing with a bigger prima donna in Totti.

There's not much trouble in Sampdoria. And in Madrid, his problem wasn't with the players, it was with the coach, and he wasn't the only one there either.

And one thing I'm grateful for is there is no prima donna in Milan right now. Clarence is the worst we've got. If Paolo had been captain next season, I wouldn't give a thought to it. I know that Cassano would fall in line. But with Rino as captain, and with his more 'abrasive' approach things might be stickier.

However I still think Carlo is the best man manager in Serie A along with Prandelli. And we should be able to accomodate Fantantonio. I'd really have someone who has played and played well in Italy to come along. So we don't waste time in 'aclimitization'.

I know it's an unpopular opinion...so go easy on me.

However I doubt this will go on. Sampdoria are almost certainly buying him next season.

Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 18 2008, 08:16 AM

Ricardo Oliveira, for the 100th time smile.gif SS as we need...we don't have to spend money on players like amauri,drogba...(as we dont need strikers of their type)...Oliveira is eager to make a bigger impact if he was recalled to milan...we must give him a chance...he scored 13 goals this year for Zaragoza already...

Posted by: jefri91 Feb 18 2008, 12:31 PM

QUOTE (aLbErTo @ Feb 18 2008, 07:16 AM)
Ricardo Oliveira, for the 100th time smile.gif SS as we need...we don't have to spend money on players like amauri,drogba...(as we dont need strikers of their type)...Oliveira is eager to make a bigger impact if he was recalled to milan...we must give him a chance...he scored 13 goals this year for Zaragoza already...
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youre right, he deserves a chance to play next season. I trust him more than Gilardino. Oli's sister was kidnapped who could blame him for not playing that good?
We shouldve loaned out gila instead of oli

Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 18 2008, 09:38 PM

oliveira is not a SS. oliveira is not a SS. he is a finisher, watch his movement on the pitch.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 18 2008, 09:53 PM

dp

Posted by: august_milan Feb 18 2008, 10:04 PM

QUOTE (aLbErTo @ Feb 18 2008, 12:16 AM)
he scored 13 goals this year for Zaragoza already...
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i havent seen him play this year so i cant comment on his current fourm but just because hes scored 13 goals doesnt mean hes good enough to play for milan...its like sayin c.ronaldo has scored 27 goals in epl so he would come to italy and make the same impact....never ever ever...even the smaller italian clubs would give ronaldo a hard time....all that fancy footwork wouldnt prevail in sera a....he would end up like brazilian ronaldo n get hurt n be out for 2 years...might have been a little more convincing if he was still playin in seria a but milan loaned him out with option to buy for a reason.

Posted by: vnata001 Feb 18 2008, 10:11 PM

QUOTE (august_milan @ Feb 18 2008, 02:04 PM)
i havent seen him play this year so i cant comment on his current fourm but just because hes scored 13 goals doesnt mean hes good enough to play for milan...its like sayin c.ronaldo has scored 27 goals in epl so he would come to italy and make the same impact....never ever ever...even the smaller italian clubs would give ronaldo a hard time....all that fancy footwork wouldnt prevail in sera a....he would end up like brazilian ronaldo n get hurt n be out for 2 years...might have been a little more convincing if he was still playin in seria a but milan loaned him out with option to buy for a reason.
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valid. but check this out. he's scored a share of world class goals this year. None of our strikers to date have scored goals like some of the ones he's scored. I said this the day we loaned him out. we were never fair to him. Every game we saw Oli in he was behind the play one step, and unsure on the ball. In this clip he's got confidence and a swagger he never played with here at milan. Team him up with pato and kaka and i promise we wouldn't be mad about it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=07P9BymyopI

Posted by: dst Feb 19 2008, 12:09 AM

QUOTE (vnata001 @ Feb 18 2008, 11:11 PM)
Team him up with pato and kaka and i promise we wouldn't be mad about it.
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Oh you promise? Then everything changes, bring Oli in! biggrin.gif No really, you could be right or you could be wrong, thing is, we're probably not going to learn the answer to this... In my judgment, he would not be a starter for Milan. We need someone better than him. But I would welcome him as a back-up player.

In any case, I agree with you on that we have not been fair to him. But maybe it was for the best that he was loaned out to Spain cause there he seems to be more comfortable and so our board might have thought he would get back to his best sooner than we would do with Milan.

Posted by: Portikins Feb 19 2008, 12:21 AM

We should sell Oliveira and get Mutu.

Posted by: Tennie Feb 19 2008, 12:23 AM

I'd be happy with Mutu.

quick note: in what I consider to be somewhat encouraging news, the italian press is finally starting to notice Leverkusen's Rene Adler. There was a short bit about him today, noting that he's getting praise from all around the Bundesliga, etc, and that he's currently favorite to get the #1 jersey for Germany for Euro 2008. (yes he's young, but I'd love to see him at Milan. He's very, very good.)

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 19 2008, 05:07 AM

The last German GK we had was the boy wonder Lehmann...and that didn't work out too well for us. And he's young??!!!! No way...

Posted by: LaPalma Feb 19 2008, 10:42 AM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 19 2008, 05:07 AM)
The last German GK we had was the boy wonder Lehmann...and that didn't work out too well for us. And he's young??!!!! No way...
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You can't compare those two TBH....not in any way. When Lehmann joined Milan he wasn't young, he was 29, that's not exactly the age of a boy wonder. Lehmann is a very arrogant, self-loving player with a big mouth and too much self confidence.
Adler is the exact opposite. He's smart, he knows when he has to be silent (after his brillant performance against Karlsruhe he didn't give any interview and he refuses to talk about the EURO despite him beeing the best german goalie for a year or so now), he always wants to learn and unlike Lehmann he doesn't think that he's the worlds greatest just because of one good performance.
Look, I follow this guy since he was playing for the german U20 in 2004 and back then I already knew that this guy would be a big thing.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 19 2008, 12:53 PM

^^^
ohmy.gif

Ok...let's buy him for Bochum then...and you can be our feeder club tongue.gif

But he's young, is what our management are gonna say, and he's definitely gonna be in the 20 mill range easy...

Posted by: Tennie Feb 19 2008, 01:03 PM

I don't think Leverkusen would ask that much for him, Jack, but it wouldn't be cheap. See if you can catch a stream of a Leverkusen game - you'll see why both La Palma and I rate him so highly.

In today's transfer rumor, Tuttosport (yes, I know, it's usually worthless for Milan rumors) is reporting that Luca Toni wants to return to Italy after his German adventure and that if he did so, he'd go to Milan. The article notes that Bayern would be hesistant to let him go.

Posted by: m1ke Feb 19 2008, 02:06 PM

How long is Toni's contract with Bayern? I can't see them letting him go very easily.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 19 2008, 02:09 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 19 2008, 05:07 AM)
The last German GK we had was the boy wonder Lehmann...and that didn't work out too well for us. And he's young??!!!! No way...
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Oohh, Germany is way past Lehmann. Look, IMO Germany has in this moment the worlds best keepers around. Except of Oli Kahn and Jens Lehmann who I rate high, there are established keepers like Enke, Rost, Hildebrandt and Weidenfeller (injuried right now) and youngsters like Adler, Rensing and Neuer. How can anyone compete? Italy? Only Buffon and maybe Amelia. Curci does not play that much,..

As for Adler, he's in superb form now, he's great potential. But no internatianl experience. So, ther could be problems, like the ones Neuer had this season. He's young - which means a big plus for Leverkusen and a big minus for Milan. We don't need a young one.

Posted by: LaPalma Feb 19 2008, 02:25 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 19 2008, 01:03 PM)
I don't think Leverkusen would ask that much for him, Jack, but it wouldn't be cheap. See if you can catch a stream of a Leverkusen game - you'll see why both La Palma and I rate him so highly.

In today's transfer rumor, Tuttosport (yes, I know, it's usually worthless for Milan rumors) is reporting that Luca Toni wants to return to Italy after his German adventure and that if he did so, he'd go to Milan. The article notes that Bayern would be hesistant to let him go.
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There's no chance Bayern are going to sell Toni. He's their best MVP along with Ribery and Zé.

QUOTE
^^^
ohmy.gif

Ok...let's buy him for Bochum then...and you can be our feeder club tongue.gif

But he's young, is what our management are gonna say, and he's definitely gonna be in the 20 mill range easy...

A player like Adler in Bochum would be a dream. We're going to see what our management will do. I have the feeling they're seeking new ways to strenghten the team. I know that a transfer of Adler is highly unlikely though.
20 Mill would be a bargain IMO. Juve paid 50 Million for Gigi when he was 23...didn't turn out to be much did it? (I'm not saying Adler will become the new Gigi though).

Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 19 2008, 07:38 PM

toni has it until 2011 or 2012...enough i'd say smile.gif

Posted by: dst Feb 20 2008, 03:37 PM

QUOTE
Ferrari: I'm off in June
Wednesday 20 February, 2008

Matteo Ferrari has confirmed that he will be leaving Roma at the end of the season, but claims that he hasn’t yet agreed a deal with Milan.

The 27-year-old defender has been unsettled at the Stadio Olimpico this term as he continues to struggle to command a starting place.

With the Algeria-born stopper’s contract set to expire this summer, he will be available on a free transfer at the end of the campaign to any club willing to pay his wages.

“The conditions for a renewal at Roma aren’t there,” he stated in Il Tempo.

“In June I will be leaving, but I will give my all until the end of my last game for the Giallorossi.

“I have become used to being whistled and I expected it after there were reports that I had already agreed a deal with Milan.

“But I want to make it clear that I haven’t come to any agreement with anyone – I just won’t be staying here.”

Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 20 2008, 03:41 PM

So... he'll be a Milan player next season... I hope he's not being considered as Maldini's replacement!

Posted by: LaPalma Feb 20 2008, 09:45 PM

QUOTE (aLbErTo @ Feb 19 2008, 07:38 PM)
toni has it until 2011 or 2012...enough i'd say smile.gif
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He officially declined today by saying "I don't know of any interest by Milan and I don't care either."

Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 21 2008, 02:24 AM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 19 2008, 08:09 AM)
Oohh, Germany is way past Lehmann. Look, IMO Germany has in this moment the worlds best keepers around. Except of Oli Kahn and Jens Lehmann who I rate high, there are established keepers like Enke, Rost, Hildebrandt and Weidenfeller (injuried right now) and youngsters like Adler, Rensing and Neuer. How can anyone compete? Italy? Only Buffon and maybe Amelia. Curci does not play that much,..

As for Adler, he's in superb form now, he's great potential. But no internatianl experience. So, ther could be problems, like the ones Neuer had this season. He's young - which means a big plus for Leverkusen and a big minus for Milan. We don't need a young one.
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does that really matter? in the end you can only play one.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 21 2008, 02:26 AM

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Feb 20 2008, 03:45 PM)
He officially declined today by saying "I don't know of any interest by Milan and I don't care either."
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ya i wouldnt want either. milan rejected him when he was available and for cheap. actually they did it twice. if i was in his position i'd be insulted.

Posted by: Tennie Feb 21 2008, 02:47 AM

I'm not finding it easily now, but Karim Benzema was quoted in goal.com (can't recall if it was english or italian version) as saying that if he left France at the end of the season - as many expect - he'd prefer to go to Spain or Italy. Either that day or the day before/after, he was also quoted as praising Ronie.

Zio Fester, can we have a Benzema for Christmas? smile.gif

Posted by: Darunia Feb 21 2008, 03:56 AM

He also said he won't leave unless he wins the CL with Lyon ... which isn't going to happen sleep.gif

Posted by: Tennie Feb 22 2008, 12:47 PM

Silly season is starting early.

On his way into the Lega Calcio meeting, Galliani said the following:

"Poiché non c'é Ronaldo - spiega - credo che ci occorra una quarta punta, oltre ai confermatissimi Pato, Inzaghi e Gilardino". "Benzema, Drogba, Adebayor o Shevnchenko? Vanno bene tutti e quattro."

["Because we won't have Ronaldo, I think we'll pick up another striker in addition to Pato, Inzaghi, and Gilardino. Benzema, Drogba, Adebayor or Shevchenko? We'd be happy with all of them."]

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=94639

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 22 2008, 12:57 PM

Sheva back??

Why can't we just make a clean break with the past. God is leaving...the golden era is over. Start a new one.

goal.com is running a story saying we want Adebayor!! ohmy.gif Why in the world for?? I like him at Arsenal. We must not imbalance the Force.

Posted by: Tennie Feb 22 2008, 01:12 PM

Controcampo is quoting the same bit from Galliani today too. They're tipping Drogba as the most probable from the list and say that Sheva may not be as welcome in Milan as the recent snippet on acmilan.com would seem to indicate.

Personally, from that list I'd take Benzema.

Posted by: dst Feb 22 2008, 01:15 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 22 2008, 01:57 PM)
Sheva back??

Why can't we just make a clean break with the past. God is leaving...the golden era is over. Start a  new one.

goal.com is running a story saying we want Adebayor!! ohmy.gif Why in the world for?? I like him at Arsenal. We must not imbalance the Force.
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Relax! Galliani said "we'd be happy with all of them" which translates to "they are all very good players that we would like in Milan but they cost a lot... bla bla... taxes... bla bla... We're looking at some alternatives (aka free players)"... biggrin.gif ... sad.gif

I don't want Ade in Milan. He fits perfectly well at Arsenal and I think he would be a flop in Milan.

Posted by: Portikins Feb 22 2008, 01:31 PM

Basically what Galliani meant was: "We'd stick with Paloschi."

Anyway, Benzema is the best from those 4 for a club like Milan that have to look for his future. But I think he'll go to Spain.

Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 22 2008, 02:55 PM

he might come to italy...milan/juve/roma...or even england, i can't see him in spain, since barca and real have enough forwards...

Posted by: Nova Feb 22 2008, 03:40 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 22 2008, 01:12 PM)
Controcampo is quoting the same bit from Galliani today too. They're tipping Drogba as the most probable from the list and say that Sheva may not be as welcome in Milan as the recent snippet on acmilan.com would seem to indicate.

Personally, from that list I'd take Benzema.
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Me too ! devilsmiley.gif

Posted by: Portikins Feb 22 2008, 03:49 PM

From the Summer 2007 list until now... I'd take:

-Eto'o (Though he should keep his mouth shut)
-Benzema
-Mutu
-Drogba (Though he should keep his mouth shut)

In no particular order.
I'm surprised we're not linked to Mutu. He's 29, he's a SS, he's an ex-Inter player...

Anyway, this is just b/s -as usual- to get some season tickets next Summer. In 2 months he'll start again the Ronaldinho-novel.

(Amauri is OK but not the level was the 4 above)

Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 22 2008, 06:45 PM

nahh amauri sucks...in my opinion he's not for the "big clubs"...and he doesn't have an amazing season to be so much valued...we have gila on his place, we need players of eto'o, benzema caliber, that can play alongside gila wink.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 22 2008, 09:06 PM

We'll see how good Amauri is on Sunday... but personally I don't want him in Milan. no more Brazilian 'strikers'.

I've found out I share my birthday with Benzema [December 19]; and it's clear he's something special, so from now on I'm an avid supporter of his signing!


BRING US BENZEMA, BALDY.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 22 2008, 10:03 PM

I can watch Benzema's goal thousands of times! spectacular.

http://www.d1g.com/video/show/1803663

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 22 2008, 11:23 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Feb 22 2008, 03:03 PM)
I can watch Benzema's goal thousands of times! spectacular.

http://www.d1g.com/video/show/1803663
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Pretty similar goal to Sheva's some years ago... I wanna say it was against Fener? Not sure...

Posted by: Tennie Feb 23 2008, 04:37 PM

Hrm.

Controcampo is running a couple of articles of note today.

One concerns OM's Samir Nasri, stating that Milan may make a bid for him and include Gourcuff as part of the package. (Having seen Nasri play, I'd say go for it).

The other concerns the possibility that Lippi may replace Ancelotti if Milan don't make the CL semis. Galliani came out with a statement denying this, of course.

Posted by: nuh Feb 23 2008, 05:04 PM

benzema and pato would be gr8/ and r99,gila and pipo would be gr8
but i dont trust amouri i just cant see him doing gd in cl and league i see him doing really bad not gila bad but 7 goals a year bad but i dunno he might do well if he comes but i would be much relaxed if we get benzema, drougba or maybe even cresspo if we could but not amouri i dont care even if he scores 30 goals on us tomorrow

Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 23 2008, 05:08 PM

GALLIANI: "Carlo Ancelotti 100% with Milan 2008-09"
2/23/2008

MILANELLO - During Milanello Live on Milan Channel, Adriano Galliani spoke clearly about Carlo Ancelotti's future at the club: "Milan, and I say it also in the name of president Berlusconi, at 100% will have Carlo Ancelotti sitting on the Milan bench in the 2008/09 season, either if it reaches the Champions League or not. If we shall not go, but I don't think that it will happen, we shall humbly continue our path in the Uefa Cup and with us there will be Ancelotti. We shall re-start with humbleness, always more or less first in the European ranking, and we shall make our path like in the 2001/02 season. This is a choice which cannot be modified. I'm still convinced that in a way or another we shall go in the Champions League."


realmad.gif I just don't get it...

Posted by: Tennie Feb 23 2008, 05:10 PM

It's in response to the 'Lippi to Milan' stories, zd. Whatever the truth of the matter is, I doubt Galliani would ever publicly say 'Look, if we don't make the semis in this year's CL and if we don't qualify for next year's CL, Ancelotti is out on his @ss.' So...the above statement is gallianispeak. smile.gif

Posted by: nuh Feb 23 2008, 05:14 PM

i dont care i only care if we get gd players

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 23 2008, 07:08 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 23 2008, 04:37 PM)
One concerns OM's Samir Nasri, stating that Milan may make a bid for him and include Gourcuff as part of the package. (Having seen Nasri play, I'd say go for it).

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This could be great. Nasri is a very talented potential who could make impact in our squad. And in that case, I won't be sorry for shipping off Gourcuff..

QUOTE
GALLIANI: "Carlo Ancelotti 100% with Milan 2008-09"

Great news. We should concentrate on bringin' in new players. Milan has Carletto for ever,.. devilsmiley.gif

QUOTE
-Eto'o (Though he should keep his mouth shut)
-Benzema
-Mutu
-Drogba (Though he should keep his mouth shut)

Eto'o and Mutu a big NO. Why? Eto'o could be the next Ronaldo or Pippo considering his medical history. Mutu is kind off a troublemaker, he does not suit into our perfect conservative line-up.

Drogba and Benzema..YES! Please let it be one of them. But I'd pick Drogba. We have Paloschi and Pato for the future, so I don't see our attack with 3 youngsters. Nope,..

Posted by: nuh Feb 23 2008, 07:29 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 23 2008, 06:08 PM)
This could be great. Nasri is a very talented potential who could make impact in our squad. And in that case, I won't be sorry for shipping off Gourcuff..
Great news. We should concentrate on bringin' in new players. Milan has Carletto for ever,.. devilsmiley.gif
Eto'o and Mutu a big NO. Why? Eto'o could be the next Ronaldo or Pippo considering his medical history. Mutu is kind off a troublemaker, he does not suit into our perfect conservative line-up.

Drogba and Benzema..YES! Please let it be one of them. But I'd pick Drogba. We have Paloschi and Pato for the future, so I don't see our attack with 3 youngsters. Nope,..
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yeah but benzema is better than palo and palo could be on the bench

Posted by: dst Feb 23 2008, 07:35 PM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 23 2008, 06:10 PM)
It's in response to the 'Lippi to Milan' stories, zd. Whatever the truth of the matter is, I doubt Galliani would ever publicly say 'Look, if we don't make the semis in this year's CL and if we don't qualify for next year's CL, Ancelotti is out on his @ss.' So...the above statement is  gallianispeak. smile.gif
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What she says zd, relax! In any case, what matters is the players that will come in, not the coach. Cause no one can win the scudetto with one XI...

Posted by: Darunia Feb 23 2008, 08:05 PM

I was hoping Gourcuff would be our french star, but if Nasri is, I wouldn't mind.

Pato-Benzema
Kaka
Nasri-Pirlo-Gattuso
Jankulovski-Kaladze-Nesta-Zambrotta
Kalac/Frey

Would be amazing!

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 23 2008, 09:08 PM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Feb 23 2008, 01:05 PM)
I was hoping Gourcuff would be our french star, but if Nasri is, I wouldn't mind.

Pato-Benzema
Kaka
Nasri-Pirlo-Gattuso
Jankulovski-Kaladze-Nesta-Zambrotta
Kalac/Frey

Would be amazing!
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Hold the phone!!! Frey\ Zambrotta \ Nasri \ Benzema all in one transfer window? laugh.gif laugh.gif

This is Milan we are talking about here... after all.

Zambrotta and a forward + Ferrari(free) = what the directors have in mind.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 23 2008, 09:52 PM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Feb 23 2008, 11:38 PM)
Hold the phone!!! Frey\ Zambrotta \ Nasri \ Benzema all in one transfer window? laugh.gif  laugh.gif

This is Milan we are talking about here... after all.

Zambrotta and a forward + Ferrari(free) = what the directors have in mind.
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Sad but true.

People can wait if they don't believe, but Ferrari and Darmian are the defenders our management's gonna bring to fill God's empty place. I really doubt there'll be a world class defender in Milan next season. ESPECIALLY if we win the CL again.

Posted by: Darunia Feb 23 2008, 09:54 PM

Zambrotta, Ferrari, and Benzema and I would be content. It's probably not enough to get us back into the Serie A race though.

Posted by: august_milan Feb 23 2008, 10:46 PM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Feb 23 2008, 01:54 PM)
Zambrotta, Ferrari, and Benzema and I would be content.  It's probably not enough to get us back into the Serie A race though.
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agreed...but its not a bad start

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 24 2008, 01:09 AM

QUOTE
agreed...but its not a bad start

Indeed, but guys let's face it, we need a keeper. And the board knows that,..

Posted by: Portikins Feb 24 2008, 02:23 AM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Feb 23 2008, 03:37 PM)
One concerns OM's Samir Nasri, stating that Milan may make a bid for him and include Gourcuff as part of the package. (Having seen Nasri play, I'd say go for it).

Too bad that's just fantacalcio. sad.gif

I'd love to see Nasri in Milan, though I hate the french.

Posted by: misha Feb 24 2008, 06:53 AM

Zambrotta, Ferrari, Barzagli, Benzema/Drogba, Adler (for Tennie smile.gif ) and world class midfielder to replace Seedorf in the starting line up

Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 24 2008, 07:14 AM

QUOTE (mishale @ Feb 24 2008, 12:53 AM)
Zambrotta, Ferrari, Barzagli, Benzema/Drogba, Adler (for Tennie smile.gif ) and world class midfielder to replace Seedorf in the starting line up
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thats about what we need if we have any intentions of winning anything next season.

but then again this milan were talking about... our squad might be left in disarray if we get more than 2-3 players... some of them might have their confidence shook. i mean were talking about 5 year olds here rolleyes.gif

Posted by: misha Feb 24 2008, 07:24 AM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Feb 24 2008, 08:14 AM)
thats about what we need if we have any intentions of winning anything next season.

but then again this milan were talking about... our squad might be left in disarray if we get more than 2-3 players... some of them might have their confidence shook. i mean were talking about 5 year olds here rolleyes.gif
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This summer is the zero hour. We can't delay the changes anymore. Even our management must realize that. But yes, It will take time to put all the puzzle together...

Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 24 2008, 07:30 AM

QUOTE (mishale @ Feb 24 2008, 01:24 AM)
This summer is the zero hour. We can't delay the changes anymore. Even our management must realize that. But yes, It will take time to put all the puzzle together...
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that i can accept. if we dont challenge right away because of new arrivals i can accept.

but coming out with the same old excuses, that the team chemistry will be effected and that we are fine just as we are is just pure BS.

either our management is incompetent and slow at transfers or are unwilling to spend but it seems to be a little combination of both.

Posted by: misha Feb 24 2008, 07:38 AM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Feb 24 2008, 08:30 AM)
that i can accept. if we dont challenge right away because of new arrivals i can accept.

but coming out with the same old excuses, that the team chemistry will be effected  and that we are fine just as we are is just pure BS.

either our management is incompetent are slow at transfers or are unwilling to spend but it seems to be a little combination of both.
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Agreed

Posted by: Darunia Feb 24 2008, 07:44 AM

Last season we signed... Emerson and Ba. Pato was a "January" signing according to Gallani, he can't count for both. Emerson and Ba were two great signings sleep.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Feb 24 2008, 09:34 AM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Feb 24 2008, 01:44 AM)
Last season we signed... Emerson and Ba.  Pato was a "January" signing according to Gallani, he can't count for both.  Emerson and Ba were two great signings sleep.gif
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please dont remind me sad.gif ... i cry about it every day.. cry.gif

Posted by: Tennie Feb 24 2008, 11:51 AM

QUOTE (mishale @ Feb 24 2008, 01:53 AM)
Zambrotta, Ferrari, Barzagli, Benzema/Drogba, Adler (for Tennie smile.gif ) and world class midfielder to replace Seedorf in the starting line up
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Awwwww! The fish doll gives you a cookie for that. 96.gif

I'd love to see Adler in Milan but I'd also be perfectly happy with Amelia if he can be pried away from Livorno. And I think Amelia is probably more likely.

Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 24 2008, 03:42 PM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Feb 23 2008, 09:05 PM)
Pato-Benzema
Kaka
Nasri-Pirlo-Gattuso
Jankulovski-Kaladze-Nesta-Zambrotta
Kalac/Frey

Would be amazing!
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just change nasri with Modric and u have a great team...and kaladze obviously wink.gif

Posted by: maldini03 Feb 24 2008, 11:21 PM

Hahahaha No No No! What our management means by a forward is recalling
Boriello from Genoa or buying an old free transfer. I too hope for Benzema but sadly a hope is all that it is unsure.gif sad.gif

My dream:
-Ochoa
-Benzema
-World- Class CB
-Zambrotta
-Modric/Nasri

Haha who am i kidding this is more reasonable:
-Zambrotta
-Boriello
-Ferrari
dry.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: august_milan Feb 25 2008, 03:03 AM

QUOTE (maldini03 @ Feb 24 2008, 03:21 PM)
Hahahaha No No No! What our management means by a forward is recalling
Boriello from Genoa or buying an old free transfer. I too hope for Benzema but sadly a hope is all that it is unsure.gif  sad.gif 

My dream:
-Ochoa
-Benzema
-World- Class CB
-Zambrotta
-Modric/Nasri

Haha who am i kidding this is more reasonable:
-Zambrotta
-Boriello
-Ferrari
dry.gif  tongue.gif
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we can only hope that you are wrong on this one.

Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 25 2008, 06:23 AM

the funniest thing, borriello, pozzi, oliveira all scored more then our strikers this year !! boriello is the first scorer of the league this time, with 15 goals which is pretty amazing

Posted by: rhy_A4 Feb 25 2008, 02:51 PM

wish list for strikers for me if we dont bring back any of our on loan strikers is Luis Fabiano this guy is soooo good

Posted by: KillerMax Feb 25 2008, 08:50 PM

QUOTE (rhy_A4 @ Feb 25 2008, 07:51 AM)
wish list for strikers for me if we dont bring back any of our on loan strikers is Luis Fabiano this guy is soooo good
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He is having a good season in Spain. Other than that, he is pretty average.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 25 2008, 09:01 PM

And has some major confidence issues. When he's not scoring, he's terrible. He'd just be no different than Gila.

Posted by: dst Feb 25 2008, 09:06 PM

About Drogba and Amauri; both are excellent players but not (as) pacey (as we need)! I think what we desperately need is quick feet.

Posted by: Tennie Feb 25 2008, 09:15 PM

It's been almost a month since I last posted this, and I know it's pretty much a done deal but:

realmad.gif realmad.gif realmad.gif BRING US ZAMBROTTA!

We also - sorry, MizNelson! - need a new keeper. While I'd love to see Adler at Milan, I'd be perfectly happy with Livorno's Marco Amelia.

It'd be nice to get reinforcement in the centre of defense too - ideally Palermo's Barzagli or maybe Roma's Mexes.

I'd love to see a creative midfielder like a Modric or a Moutinho or Veloso.

And yeah, the striker issue. Benzema would be my first choice. Not sure who'd be a second choice, though. Amauri has a [insert Porty's favourite word here] attitude, Rossi is possibly just too small physically for what Milan need, I really don't want to see the English Student back (sorry, Misha!) so....I honestly dunno here.

Do I think all of the above is likely to happen? Nah. But if we get Zambrotta + keeper + striker, it's at least a start. 96.gif

Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 25 2008, 10:25 PM

Zambrotta + Modric + Oliveira + Pozzi + Ferrari (apparently done deal, we have to count him now) + gk (Akinfeev)

maybe Marzoratti could be brought back...to add some depth on the right side


Dida,Kalac,Akinfeev

Zambrotta,Marzoratti,Oddo,Bonera,Nesta,Kaladze,Ferarri,Simic,Digao,Jankulovski, Grimi

Pirlo,Gattuso,Ambrosini,Modric,Seedorf,Kaka,Gourcuff,Emerson,Brocchi,Sergio(if he stays)

Inzaghi,Gilardino,Pato,Paloschi,Oliveira,Pozzi,Ronaldo(if he stays or recovers)

Posted by: Portikins Feb 25 2008, 10:56 PM

Modric is a done deal for Barcelona. Deco is leaving, Modric is going to sub in there.

Posted by: Tennie Feb 25 2008, 11:01 PM

Source?

Posted by: maldini03 Feb 25 2008, 11:02 PM

I disagree. I would much rather see Boriello and pozzi come back than Oli. I mean i don't really know what Olivera or how rather that he is doing but to see
Boriello play yesterday we need him and we were smart to hang onto him three beautiful goals. Then the question comes about boriello is, Is he only good on a small team or can he handle the pressure that he will have to put up with to make the Milan frst XI??

Personally i would like:
-Boriello / Benzema (preferably)/Both??
-Nasri / Modric
-zambrotta
-Ferrari ( dont exactly want him but could he hurt?)
-GK ( Ochoa, Adler Tennie, or amelia)
-One that nobody else has said maybe Drenthe he has no spot on Madrid and he is very talented but if we get Zambrotta we dont need him
With these additions we are definately a top contender of Europe and the league wink.gif king.gif cool.gif

Posted by: KingKaka Feb 25 2008, 11:21 PM

i want

1... ronaldinho
2...zambrotta
3...drogba
4...benzema
5...nasri
6...roy keane-i reckon he could come back and be world class again
7...boban
8...amelia
9...nicky butt- be gud sub for kaka he has great vision
10...bring back stam for a season another gud sub

i be happy with any this names on our team

Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 25 2008, 11:23 PM

we haven't really gave a chance to Oli...looking at what "patient" we have with gila we need to give oli another (first real) chance, recalling him to milan could just give him a lift...and he was (hope still can be) great player before all the drama in his life...

and he has all this wanted PACE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUfisUv9ZzE

Posted by: dst Feb 25 2008, 11:53 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Feb 25 2008, 11:56 PM)
Modric is a done deal for Barcelona. Deco is leaving, Modric is going to sub in there.
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Why would Modric choose any team in which he'd be a sub? He seems to have the potential to shine as a starter, I doubt he would make such a choice.

QUOTE (KingKaka @ Feb 26 2008, 12:21 AM)
6...roy keane-i reckon he could come back and be world class again
7...boban
10...bring back stam for a season another gud sub
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blink.gif ... unsure.gif ... Welcome!! smile.gif

Posted by: Portikins Feb 26 2008, 12:18 AM

QUOTE (dst @ Feb 25 2008, 10:53 PM)
Why would Modric choose any team in which he'd be a sub? He seems to have the potential to shine as a starter, I doubt he would make such a choice.
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I meant...

Modric in
Deco out... of Barcelona.

Posted by: Tennie Feb 26 2008, 12:20 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Feb 25 2008, 07:18 PM)
I meant...

Modric in
Deco out... of Barcelona.
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I'm still interested in your source for this one, Porty.

The fish doll offers a beer. He's curious too. 96.gif

Posted by: dst Feb 26 2008, 12:28 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Feb 26 2008, 01:18 AM)
I meant...

Modric in
Deco out... of Barcelona.
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But isn't Deco a sub at Barcelona now?? biggrin.gif

Anyway, I'd welcome both in Milan!!

Posted by: august_milan Feb 26 2008, 12:48 AM

QUOTE (aLbErTo @ Feb 25 2008, 03:23 PM)
we haven't really gave a chance to Oli...looking at what "patient" we have with gila we need to give oli another (first real) chance, recalling him to milan could just give him a lift...and he was (hope still can be) great player before all the drama in his life...

and he has all this wanted PACE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUfisUv9ZzE
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ur arguement would be more convincing with recent videos instead of vids from 3+ seasons ago

Posted by: rhy_A4 Feb 26 2008, 01:43 AM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Feb 25 2008, 07:50 PM)
He is having a good season in Spain. Other than that, he is pretty average.
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he wasnt Average last night when they won against Zaragoza his finishing was clinical 96.gif

Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 26 2008, 08:05 AM

QUOTE (august_milan @ Feb 26 2008, 01:48 AM)
ur arguement would be more convincing with recent videos instead of vids from 3+ seasons ago
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yeah well 3 seasons ago his sister wasn't kidnapped yet...plus i belive he has overcome his injury as he's playing now more then two years without problem...it was always just mental thing with him in milan, we all new he could done great...i'm not saying he will, we just have to give him one chance, as we spent a lot money for his signing...

QUOTE (dst @ Feb 26 2008, 12:53 AM)
Why would Modric choose any team in which he'd be a sub? He seems to have the potential to shine as a starter, I doubt he would make such a choice.
blink.gif ... unsure.gif ... Welcome!! smile.gif
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yeah well, his most loved club is Barca, i think he would go there just to train with others if that was an option smile.gif

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Feb 26 2008, 07:14 PM

I would prefer Borriello back to Olivera

Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 26 2008, 07:34 PM

QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Feb 26 2008, 09:44 PM)
I would prefer Borriello back to Olivera
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Don't let his goal tally possess you. he's not made for a big club like Milan, believe me. he will not be able to repeat what he has done in Genoa over here.

In fact neither are...

We need someone like Drogba...

Posted by: Darunia Feb 26 2008, 07:57 PM

I'd like Oli back, he deserves another chance IMO. He has some good pace, something our other strikers don't have besides Pato. I expect him to stay at Zaragoza though, it seems like he's fitting in there well.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 26 2008, 08:05 PM

QUOTE (Porty @ Feb 26 2008, 12:18 AM)
I meant...

Modric in
Deco out... of Barcelona.
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Where did you find this report? I'm not so sure. The croatian papers did not mention a Barcelona transfer for quite some time.

Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 26 2008, 09:18 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 26 2008, 09:05 PM)
Where did you find this report? I'm not so sure. The croatian papers did not mention a Barcelona transfer for quite some time.
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yeah if they didn't then it might even happen...you know how it is in croatian press smile.gif one day it'll just come as a surprise, just like eduardo's signing for Arsenal...

Posted by: Portikins Feb 26 2008, 11:00 PM

About Modric, and the sources, and the cvnting around:



http://www.extra-football.com/articles/modric-drams-of-barcelona.html
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=559132
http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=77683
http://www.eyefootball.com/news/3364/Modric-wants-Barca-move/
http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/web/gen/20080124/noticia_53430132094.html
http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/web/gen/20080125/noticia_53430209696.html
http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=470938&idseccio_PK=803

Unless Chelsea get him for some ridiculous amount of money, I believe he'll be a Barcelona player soon.

Posted by: Tennie Feb 26 2008, 11:12 PM

Thanks for the sources and the links, Porty!

Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 26 2008, 11:22 PM

like that girl btw tongue.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Feb 26 2008, 11:25 PM

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif !! Wow!

I suppose it isn't a photoshop edit by AS..?

And @aLbErTo, yes, you were right,.. wink.gif

Posted by: dst Feb 27 2008, 01:09 AM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Feb 26 2008, 08:34 PM)
We need someone like Drogba...
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I like Drogba but I think he'd fail miserably in Milan. And I don't think he's what we need but that's probably just me.

Posted by: august_milan Feb 27 2008, 01:18 AM

QUOTE (dst @ Feb 26 2008, 05:09 PM)
I like Drogba but I think he'd fail miserably in Milan. And I don't think he's what we need but that's probably just me.
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likd dst i think drogba is a great striker and altho i dont think he would fail miserably in milan i dont think he would be as succesfull as most would think or hope. we need a more skillfull striker, and altho i think he may have the pace...unfortunatly it wont last very long and i still think we need a more technical and creative forward. for some reason alot of ppl on this fourm have it in for spanish players i still think torres would have been golden for milan....but villa would still be a good grab. imo anyway

Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 27 2008, 09:28 AM

Real Madrid is apparently interested in signing russian Pavljuchenko...if anyone remembers him from the russia-england match, he was the one who came on in 2nd half, and turn the game with goal from penalty and assist...he's 188cm tall and has great tecnique

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 27 2008, 11:04 AM

Russian football certainly seems to be on the up. While Dutch football seems to be going down...

Oh no Drogba...if he were 10 mill popunds cheaper...sure...but otherwise,no thanks.

Posted by: misha Feb 27 2008, 08:49 PM

QUOTE (aLbErTo @ Feb 27 2008, 10:28 AM)
Real Madrid is apparently interested in signing russian Pavljuchenko...if anyone remembers him from the russia-england match, he was the one who came on in 2nd half, and turn the game with goal from penalty and assist...he's 188cm tall and has great tecnique
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No way. He's not even close to be good enough for a team like this.

Posted by: august_milan Feb 28 2008, 12:51 AM

goal.com is sayin man u r supposed to be makin an offer for Philipp Lahm supposidly around £8.5 million...how are milan supposed to compete with this...with the taxes in italy to pay for him to come and cover his wages is almost doubling the costs....the same thing happend when we were supposed to sign Henry....barca offered him higher wages and milan couldnt match it....offering him 4 million a year would cost milan almost 8 million after taxes, same when real offerd kaka a contract....they offered him more then double his wage that he is making at milan because they do not have the same taxes and have higher paying sponsers....its soo not fair theses english and spanish clubs have over italian clubs....no wonder players dont wanna play in seria a they lose half their wages in taxes! Id be very happy to see Lahm arrive in milan in the summer along with zambrotta we could replace cafu and favalli and have great subs.

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=599752

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 28 2008, 03:30 AM

I agree with the taxes bit...it's also the very selfish reason why I'd like to see Silvio as PM.

But Lahm and Zambrotta being good subs... ohmy.gif

Naah..Klinsi is coming in. Lahm and Poldi are going nowhere.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Feb 28 2008, 07:21 AM

Is our midfield really that good? aren't they [as a whole] overrated a little bit? do they feed our attackers like they should?

Think about these questions!...

Posted by: kurtsimonw Feb 28 2008, 08:45 AM

zrd has a point. I do believe Pirlo is under-rated still, he never gets his due credit, ever. But Seedorf is one that annoys me, I think he is very over-rated. It's easy to say about Ronaldo or Zlatan that they never show up in big games, but Seedorf never shows up in easy games, leading to many unnecessary dropped points.

I would like to see him.. not replaced, but somebody that would do his job in the league, with more motivation!

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 28 2008, 08:58 AM

^^

Well yeah...whoever thinks our mid-field is covered is pretty wrong.

I think the sole dependence on Pirlo is proving to be too huge an obstacle.

And the lack of creativity coming from our centre mid-field is also a huge problem.

We need -> 1 CB, 1 WB for defence
-> 1 Creative deep mid, One young/over his prime cheap box to box mid
-> One mobile attacking mid to take the focus off defenders from breakin Kaka's legs
-> One SS.

For CB: I guess Barzagli would be nice. But I doubt he's better than Bonera and he's Palermo. *shrugs*. What I'd really love is to get some of our youth squads in. Or maybe see some Serie A movement for them. Loan em out or something
For WB: Zambrotta. Maybe we could sell Grimi and get Vargas. But I'm not gonna jump on Vargas coz of one cross. If all Oddo had to do was play one match a week, he'd be the best RB in the world.
For Deep Mids: I don't know, but I was planning for some time to ask LaPalma about Nuri Sahin, and if he was doing well. I haven't heard much from him lately. Cigarini/Aquilani(he's having clashes in Roma)/Montolivo they'd all have to be probably part ownership for Yoann, I'd guess.
Goal-Scoring Mids: I already mentioned this. VdV or Diego. If one of these guys play alongside Kaka, we can see a more lethal XMas Tree, since two people are capable of playing trquartista or SS.
SS: I've again already said, I'd like Cassano. He's one of the best Italian players of the new generation I've seen. Too bad he's a jackass. But with so few prima donnas in our team, I have hopes he might make it through. But we'd have to hijack the Madrid-Samp deal, and that won't do our popularity much good.

I think if we could get that mobile AM and a SS, it would be cool, so then we can alternate from 4-3-2-1 to 4-2-3-1 to even maybe 4-3-3.

More tactical flexibility, which is what is strangling our team out at the moment. For now, every opponent knows, Milan has only two points of focus. Pirlo and Kaka. If both these guys are shut down, that's it. Pato has to run around like a mad duck to do something.

Posted by: LaPalma Feb 28 2008, 11:44 AM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 28 2008, 08:58 AM)
^^

Well yeah...whoever thinks our mid-field is covered is pretty wrong.

I think the sole dependence on Pirlo is proving to be too huge an obstacle.

And the lack of creativity coming from our centre mid-field is also a huge problem.

We need -> 1 CB, 1 WB for defence
            -> 1 Creative deep mid, One young/over his prime cheap box to box mid
              -> One mobile attacking mid to take the focus off defenders from breakin Kaka's legs
              -> One SS.

For CB: I guess Barzagli would be nice. But I doubt he's better than Bonera and he's Palermo. *shrugs*. What I'd really love is to get some of our youth squads in. Or maybe see some Serie A movement for them. Loan em out or something
For WB: Zambrotta. Maybe we could sell Grimi and get Vargas. But I'm not gonna jump on Vargas coz of one cross. If all Oddo had to do was play one match a week, he'd be the best RB in the world.
For Deep Mids: I don't know, but I was planning for some time to ask LaPalma about Nuri Sahin, and if he was doing well. I haven't heard much from him lately. Cigarini/Aquilani(he's having clashes in Roma)/Montolivo they'd all have to be probably part ownership for Yoann, I'd guess.
Goal-Scoring Mids: I already mentioned this. VdV or Diego. If one of these guys play alongside Kaka, we can see a more lethal XMas Tree, since two people are capable of playing trquartista or SS.
SS: I've again already said, I'd like Cassano. He's one of the best Italian players of the new generation I've seen. Too bad he's a jackass. But with so few prima donnas in our team, I have hopes he might make it through. But we'd have to hijack the Madrid-Samp deal, and that won't do our popularity much good.

I think if we could get that mobile AM and a SS, it would be cool, so then we can alternate from 4-3-2-1 to 4-2-3-1 to even maybe 4-3-3.

More tactical flexibility, which is what is strangling our team out at the moment. For now, every opponent knows, Milan has only two points of focus. Pirlo and Kaka. If both these guys are shut down, that's it. Pato has to run around like a mad duck to do something.
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Sahn was being loaned out to Feyenoord Rotterdam this season. He's doing well there....at least what I've heard a few weeks ago.
About VdV....I wouldn't consider him a goalscoring midfielder. Like I said before. I think he's nest playing on the SS position. For deep-MF position I'd really like to see Montolivo. That guy has "something" and could really be "someone". unsure.gif

Posted by: Il Capitano Feb 28 2008, 12:00 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 28 2008, 07:58 AM)
^^

Well yeah...whoever thinks our mid-field is covered is pretty wrong.

I think the sole dependence on Pirlo is proving to be too huge an obstacle.

And the lack of creativity coming from our centre mid-field is also a huge problem.

We need -> 1 CB, 1 WB for defence
            -> 1 Creative deep mid, One young/over his prime cheap box to box mid
              -> One mobile attacking mid to take the focus off defenders from breakin Kaka's legs
              -> One SS.

For CB: I guess Barzagli would be nice. But I doubt he's better than Bonera and he's Palermo. *shrugs*. What I'd really love is to get some of our youth squads in. Or maybe see some Serie A movement for them. Loan em out or something
For WB: Zambrotta. Maybe we could sell Grimi and get Vargas. But I'm not gonna jump on Vargas coz of one cross. If all Oddo had to do was play one match a week, he'd be the best RB in the world.
For Deep Mids: I don't know, but I was planning for some time to ask LaPalma about Nuri Sahin, and if he was doing well. I haven't heard much from him lately. Cigarini/Aquilani(he's having clashes in Roma)/Montolivo they'd all have to be probably part ownership for Yoann, I'd guess.
Goal-Scoring Mids: I already mentioned this. VdV or Diego. If one of these guys play alongside Kaka, we can see a more lethal XMas Tree, since two people are capable of playing trquartista or SS.
SS: I've again already said, I'd like Cassano. He's one of the best Italian players of the new generation I've seen. Too bad he's a jackass. But with so few prima donnas in our team, I have hopes he might make it through. But we'd have to hijack the Madrid-Samp deal, and that won't do our popularity much good.

I think if we could get that mobile AM and a SS, it would be cool, so then we can alternate from 4-3-2-1 to 4-2-3-1 to even maybe 4-3-3.

More tactical flexibility, which is what is strangling our team out at the moment. For now, every opponent knows, Milan has only two points of focus. Pirlo and Kaka. If both these guys are shut down, that's it. Pato has to run around like a mad duck to do something.
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QFT

We should fire Galliani and hire Captain sparrow as the new Vice president for Milan. 96.gif

Posted by: Tennie Feb 28 2008, 12:26 PM

Hm. A new name to put into the list of 'possible strikers'. Tuttomercatoweb is reporting that Milan are following Sevilla's Kanoute (http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?action=read&id=95274).

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 28 2008, 12:43 PM

Another primo punta?? Aaaaaaaaaaaaargh!! realmad.gif

@IlCap: biggrin.gif I'd love to, but I hear the pay sucks. And the taxes kill you.

Posted by: dst Feb 28 2008, 01:58 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 28 2008, 01:43 PM)
Another primo punta?? Aaaaaaaaaaaaargh!! realmad.gif

@IlCap: biggrin.gif I'd love to, but I hear the pay sucks. And the taxes kill you.
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Are you turning this down just because Milan recently signed a deal with Microsoft?? wink.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Il Capitano Feb 28 2008, 05:55 PM



According to controcampo Alex Silva is coming to Milan. Just like Ferrari he won't cost anything. He is 22 years old and is the younger brother of Luizao in Benfica. Don't know how good he is but apparently he attracted the attention of many big clubs until he had a knee injury and he is included in the brazilian olympic team.

EDIT: He is a CB.

Posted by: nuh Feb 28 2008, 06:06 PM

gk= i dunno cuz kalac is doing gd
dc= zambrota+barzagali
mf= i would say brochi out and maybe rossina in
fc= benzema+boriello+oli

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 28 2008, 06:14 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Feb 28 2008, 06:28 PM)
Are you turning this down just because Milan recently signed a deal with Microsoft?? wink.gif  laugh.gif
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What????!!! No way...nooooo!!!! cry.gif

Does this club have no future....I'm off to cheer for Arsenal...yeesh...

Posted by: dst Feb 28 2008, 06:53 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 28 2008, 07:14 PM)
What????!!! No way...nooooo!!!! cry.gif

Does this club have no future....I'm off to cheer for Arsenal...yeesh...
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Don't worry, we are just doing this in order to create an opening to the US. We already have their technological know-how from [insert your favorite company here]! smile.gif

Posted by: august_milan Feb 28 2008, 11:18 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 27 2008, 07:30 PM)
I agree with the taxes bit...it's also the very selfish reason why I'd like to see Silvio as PM.

But Lahm and Zambrotta being good subs... ohmy.gif

Naah..Klinsi is coming in. Lahm and Poldi are going nowhere.
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i think u missunderstood what i said....if Lahm and Zambrotta came im sure they would both or atleast one of them start, but what i said or ment to say was if both come we would have: Oddo, Zambrotta, Lahm and Janko on the flanks so it didnt matter who started cuz we would have great starters and great back ups incase of injury of fatigue...which would also turn out to be a great rotation system so were not playing the same players over and have to worry bout saving certain players for key games and have to risk losing points in seria a to have fresh players for cl cuz you would feel secure with any one of thoes players playing. Make a little more sence?

Posted by: omahawi Feb 28 2008, 11:39 PM

This summer is going to be very exciting but scary. We have way to many people to replace. I think the management realizes they need to drop the average age of the club by quite a bit.

Out:
Dida. Valerio
Cafu, Maldini, Simic. Favalli, Serghino
Brocchi, Ba
Gilardino, Ronaldo

Now these are players we should be replacing. They are either retiring, are to old to play regularly or don't posses enough quality to be productive for the team.

11 players out. That is scary. But here is the fun point. Milan have not splashed out a lot of cash in quite awhile. 1 major signing per year for the past 3 to 4 years. Their coffers have to be exploding. 96.gif

I look at Bayern this past off season and say it's time to buy a great team.

In
Akinfeev/Frey, Offredi
Lahm, Zambrotta, Barzagli, De Silvestri, Criscito, Ramos, Zaccardo
Aquilani, Montolivo, Hamsik, VDV, Diego
Toni, Paloschi

We have the money, we have the prestige, bring on the talent. I understand that it will be difficult to get most of these players away from their owners but This will build a great team for a long long time.

Bring on 4th place, the CL trophy and the summer transfer window. devil.gif

Posted by: Tennie Feb 28 2008, 11:45 PM

96.gif Welcome, Omahawi! Do feel free to post an intro in the introductions section!

I think a lot of us would love to see Milan make wholesale purchases like those you mentioned. The problem is that I just don't see quite that many people coming in all at once -- and some of those you listed will be very hard to pry away from their clubs (eg Ramos, Aquilani, Montolivo, Toni) as you said.

I'd be happy if we made 4-5 buys (1 keeper, 1-2 defenders, 1 good mid, 1 good striker). I suspect we'll probably only see 2-3, sadly.

Posted by: aLbErTo Feb 29 2008, 08:48 AM

lol, you really think we will buy more then 3 players...i mean, changing whole team wouldn't be great in any aspect...you must consider settling in concept of play, and many other things...in my opinon, we can expect max 5 transfers, but i'm more on tennies side of thinking, as we'll probably see only 2-3 signigs

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Feb 29 2008, 10:51 AM

2-3 signings would be pretty good...if we're pulling someone up from the youth ranks...

Let's see

1 Wingback
1 Creative Mid
1 Striker

^^^

Looks good...unsure.gif

Posted by: misha Feb 29 2008, 11:04 AM

QUOTE (aLbErTo @ Feb 29 2008, 09:48 AM)
lol, you really think we will buy more then 3 players...i mean, changing whole team wouldn't be great in any aspect...you must consider settling in concept of play, and many other things...in my opinon, we can expect max 5 transfers, but i'm more on tennies side of thinking, as we'll probably see only 2-3 signigs
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Of course more than 3. We don't have a choice because of our managemet impotency over the last two summers. We could have done it gradually but ...

Posted by: omahawi Feb 29 2008, 04:46 PM

I am in agreement. If they had been working on the situtation for the past 3 years I would say 2 to 3 signings would be good. Unfortunately multiply that by 3 and we are looking at replacing a large portion of the squad. It all stems from lack of movement in the off season for too long.

O

Posted by: vnata001 Mar 1 2008, 12:37 PM

wow. i just watched the man u lyon first leg replay...im not sure if theres anything going on in that thick head of yours galliani..but if there is, i hope its telling you to sign karim benzema. dude is a beast. pato, benzema, kaka, gourcuff, pirlo, gatusso the brazilian-french-italiano connecion.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 1 2008, 12:57 PM

^^

I saw him in that game too. he reminds me of Sheva. powerful shot, good physique, intelligent, with 'sufficient' technique. definitely a future star.

But don't bother too much, he will end up in Spain or England...

Posted by: Tennie Mar 1 2008, 02:49 PM

There's an article in Corriere today -- keep in mind that Corriere is not especially reliable -- stating that Shevchenko wants to return to Milan and that he's already house hunting there.

Posted by: misha Mar 1 2008, 04:11 PM

Buffon is house hunting here for almost two years according to press.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Mar 1 2008, 08:03 PM

^^

Drogba as well right?? Everyone wants to be rossoneri... rolleyes.gif

Nobody does though...tongue.gif

Posted by: MizNelson Mar 2 2008, 07:36 AM

Okay, so if you believe the press (pfft), Sheva, Buffon, his old lady, and Frey have all gone house-hunting in Milan. If it were true, I think we've discovered the new gold rush of the 21st century.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 2 2008, 08:21 AM

QUOTE (MizNelson @ Mar 2 2008, 01:36 AM)
Okay, so if you believe the press (pfft), Sheva, Buffon, his old lady, and Frey have all gone house-hunting in Milan. If it were true, I think we've discovered the new gold rush of the 21st century.
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lol true biggrin.gif

Posted by: MizNelson Mar 2 2008, 11:18 AM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Mar 1 2008, 11:21 PM)
lol true biggrin.gif
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Forget the World Series of Poker or playing the stock market. The big money is to be had in Milanese real estate. wink.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 2 2008, 01:43 PM

Milans problems and week spots are till now very known not only to us, but still, I feel the need of a compiling viewpoint:

I.Keepers - we have Kalac for next season, but I consider him still as a No.2. Dida? I'm not sure. If Kalac would not be that good, I'd say demote him (temporary or permanently, sorry @MizNelson) to No.2 and bring in some secure, younger keeper who's career is still in takeoff.

Recommendations:
A. Buffon if possible, but highly unlike. Only if we are lucky enough to end up 4th, with Fiorentina above us on the 3rd place, or easier said with Juventus failing a CL-spot which in this moment does not look like SF. Other priorities would be Curci, Frey, Amelia (so-so), Enke and Castellazzi - all experienced keepers with the needed big-games in their feets (ex. is only Cruci)
B. Young keepers who could give us/Carlo a free choice - Adler, Bruno (Flamengo) or Akinfeev do not have to start as a No.1, which means Kalac can retain his deserved frist team run.
C. Abbiati's return - would be cheap and would not cost us "transfer activity". But Abbiati isn't a Milan player any more, not after all those words and his behaviour.

II.Defenders - the LB and RB position is a priority, even more neccesary then a new CB. I'm totally against Kaladze, but looking him play these days I just can't see him out in recent time. Nesta is a demi-god, Bonera is reliable and Simic, well, he is really the one who's the biggest looser. His value dropped, his match practice, he'll loose his NT position and probably join a crappy mid- or low-table team. But the back worry me. Oddo and Janku have a great working ratio and do well when we need to defend, but are week up front. Carlo's system stopped working here. Years ago we had Maldini, Cafu and Serginho to rely on. They could provide the crosses, passes, they could speed up the tempo, pull Pirlo and Gattuso much more in action. Just remember the days. It was noramally for Milan to be back against Empoli 0-1 for HT, just like it is now. But then Sheva or Kaka would have scored, and then Sergio or Cafu leaded the pressure which resulted a late winning goal. It happened more then once.

Recommendations:
A. Would be Phillip Lahm, Dani Alves, Adriano, Ilsinho (Shakhtar), Vargas, Rafinha, Grosso, Emanuelson (Ajax), Srna (Shakhtar). They all could provide some extra pace and speed in adition of the usual great Janku or Oddo. Also (except of Lahm and Alves), they could agree with a bench-status or a rotation-status. Grosso could be one more player who not made it with Inter, and also could be the easiest solution. Also, we have to scout the Brazilian league, I'm sure there's a new Segio or Carlos out there. But a proper one.
B. This may come as a surprise but I put Zambrotta on a B-importance grade. Why? I like him really very much, enjoy his quality, and he could be avaible. But as I said, a speedy back player is priority for me, even if it means put a world class player like Zambro in background. Second option would be Willy Sagnol or Chiellini.
C. A quality CB. Maldini cannot be replaced, but his position in central defense should be covered. Barzagli, Eboue, Lucio and Heitinga are top-priorities to me. IN particular Barzagli who would make a future leader and a star in Italy's NT. If possible, Thuram or Cannavaro should also be considered. Milan allways tends to make such transfers, like they did with Emerson, Ronaldo, etc. So I expect someone like that be at least mentioned or negotiated.
D. If Simic goes we need a bench player. Knezevic (Livorno), Gamberini or Castellini should do that.

III.Midfielders - Seedorf starts to be a injury-prone player, Kaka needs to have a alternative. Gourcuff isn't enough. The DM depatment is full and we have no problems there. So, we should keep Gourcuff and either invest in a fresh, strong and speedy offensive midfielder, or a experienced CM with quality.

Recommendations:
A. Many of us said no to Mancini. But he's doing terribly good so far with Roma. He's a constant danger and has inspiration. The main problem was, he is a winger. But now, IMO he surpassed that level of position-play and become a player to succeed in mostly every Serie A team. There are some other fresh options with Nasri, Ben Afra, Aquilani, De Rossi, Montolivo, Modric (Barca?), Rakitic, van der Vaart, Diego (unlike), Schweinsteiger - but all of them would require permanent and instant first team (ex. Nasri), and with Carlo still around that would be hard. If Modric comes in to Barca, Deco should also be considered, he's used to play in second after Ronaldinho and infront of Xavi/Iniesta, so he would be the perfect transition from Pirlo/Gattuso to Kaka.
B. Much more like to happen. Players like Santana, Semioli, Mauri, Morfeo, Muntari, etc. Or someone who's contract expires,..
C. Allways keep the door open for oldies like Makelele. Like I said, we're full of DM's, but does it hurt to have one more? Maybe just for our eyes..

IV.Strikers - it's as simple as this - get rid of Gilardino, bring in what will be avaible. This is a position we do not neccassary have to speed up. We have Pato and Paloschi. I count on Pippo staying one more. So we can use either Borriello or Gilardino to lure some potential Serie A striker which is proirity 1. So Gilardino for a top striker and Borriello for a SA striker. Or keep Borriello who looks to be a Serie A striker anyway, but somehow did not work with us. Could be that our tactic cut's off players like Gilardino, Borriello even Paloschi too much.

Recommendations:
A. Serie A strikers, like Trezeguet, Di Natale, Quagliarella, Mutu, Gyan, Pandev, Rocchi or Cassano. Cassano in particular could be interesting. He is a problem child but has great potential, and is very exprienced. He could be a striker and creativity solution as well. A Trezeguet move can be expected if Gila goes to Juve. With me fine, cause we gain a proven Serie A striker.
B. Drogba, Adebayor, Eto'o, Benzema or Shevchenko. Eto'o 's highly unlike, just as Ade, after the injury of Eduardo. Benzema is good but I cannot imagine Milan having a teen attack with Palo-Pato-Benzema. So it leaves us up to the Chelsea duo. Shevchenko hurt us all and would be a persona non grata, but still, he represents both A. and B., he's a top striker as well as a Serie A striker. Drogba gives us more options and IMO would be a much more interesting (which does not have to mean better) partner to both Pato and Paloschi, even Gila and Pippo. Some other names can be added as well - Berbatov, Petric (BVB; also a creative add, just like Mutu and Cassano), Huntelaar.
C. Once more, a oldy like Crespo who'll probably be avaible.

V.Coach - I'm fine with Carlo under the condition he changes some things. He cannot be blamed for Dida (but the goalie coach really should be, he should have detected his decline in the summer prep-period), the L/RB's, the attack, Gila. But for the midfield, yes! He's stubborn and lost in moments, and he sacrifices too much just to hold on and maintain his tactic. He has to seem other perspectives. If something does not work 9 out of 10 time, it should be put off the table, rather then tried for the 11th time. I hope new players will wake new ideas.


Summa: Cassano+Srna+Frey+Zambrotta would be the Milan solution. It would be the most economic transfer aquisition. Cassano can play a striker and a AM, he covers 2 positions at least, Srna cover a RM and RB, he's good up front, pacey and creative, Frey is "the nummersicher transfer" and Zambro is well known to everyone. A Drogba/Sheva+Deco+Barzagli+Buffon/Curci would mean major news, the biggest since Rui Costa. More realistic of both options is somthing in-between.

Posted by: KillerMax Mar 2 2008, 10:36 PM

Cassano? I think.... ummm... not.

Posted by: Tennie Mar 3 2008, 12:40 PM

Hey, Diavolo, Alberto!

Do you guys know anything about Uros Palibrk? He's a young Slovenian striker who's currently at Milanello on trial, according to tuttomercatoweb.

Posted by: dst Mar 3 2008, 02:37 PM

^^^


QUOTE
Milan v Chelsea for teen star
Monday 3 March, 2008

Milan seem set to beat Chelsea to the signature of Slovenian striking starlet Uros Palibrk.

The 15-year-old is being tracked by a host of top European clubs and recently impressed on a successful trial with Chelsea.

But despite the Blues’ attempts to make his presence permanent, Palibrk is playing with Milan’s youth side and seemed settled after scoring the only goal in a friendly against Sampdoria.

“At Chelsea I trained for a week and played against Fulham and Swindon managing to score three goals,” Palibrk explained.

“But Milan wanted to see me in action and I must admit that Italy, besides Spain, has my favourite League.”

The prodigious hitman is currently owned by Slovenian outfit Triglav Kranj, but the club are ready to cash in their prized asset.

“We believe in Uros – he is a natural born goalscorer,” director Miran Subic stated.

“The fact that he scored in an important game for Milan is just further proof of his abilities and we all want the best for him.”

The Rossoneri are ready to begin talks over a transfer that would be completed in the summer.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Mar 3 2008, 06:39 PM

^^

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So Galliani wasn't kidding when he said, we wanted to be like Arsenal last season. I actually like this. This is a wise decision.

Player fees are only shooting through the roof, and the only way to get one-club players is to have them play since they were kids.

Posted by: dst Mar 3 2008, 10:22 PM

I was thinking of tomorrow evening's game and this came to mind; if you could take one player from Arsenal who would that be??

Personally, I believe Arsenal's most talented player is RvP. And he's one of my favorites. Sadly enough, I believe his injuries are not a short-term problem... sleep.gif

Then there is Kolo. He is a great defender in my view. A bit of a fiery character but he is rock-solid at the back.

But the player I would choose would probably be Hleb. I think that guy can replace Seedorf perfectly!

Also, would you like Wenger in Milan? Or do you think his policy does not fit this club?

Anyway... this is just fantacalcio so don't bother saying it's not possible... biggrin.gif

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 3 2008, 11:20 PM

i like van persie a lot and would probably pick him if i could pick anyone but he's so injury prone. so i think i'd like to see fabregas with pirlo in the middle, that would great.

Posted by: Tennie Mar 4 2008, 12:14 AM

I think I'd probably pick Hleb, or maybe Fabregas. They're both quality players.

RVP is very talented, but there's the injury issue and, well, it's always been my impression -- correct me if I'm wrong on this -- that he's a bit of a [insert Porty's favourite word here].

Posted by: Darunia Mar 4 2008, 01:05 AM

Fabregas, he would replace Seedorf.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 4 2008, 01:29 AM

Hleb for me. This guy is truly awesome.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 05:28 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 3 2008, 07:29 PM)
Hleb for me. This guy is truly awesome.
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he's a winger tho (altough he can play behind the strikers) who needs him when you have whole bunch of defensive midfielders who cant cross or thread passes for their lives rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Mar 4 2008, 06:16 AM

Hleb, Rosicky or Flamini. First two are creative, and the last is a box to box, with a good long range shot.

No I wouldn't want Wenger here. He's not the type of guy who can bring instant results. He would be great as an assistant coach. tongue.gif Coz for one, I think he is a bit tactically naive. Though he's definitely improved a LOT.

Also I think this whole process of developing new players, takes a while. It's alright in Arsenal, where they all trust in him, and he's the boss, but maybe not in Italy, where Milan are no longer an upcoming club.

Also one of the greatest gifts of Wenger is how astutely he manages the finances of the club. That's something Milan don't need. Since Milan uses coaches and not managers.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 4 2008, 06:21 AM

If I had to choose on personal preferences it would be Rosicky. Pity we'll not be seeing him at San Siro. In terms of talent, RvP, but like you guys said he's made of glass. Then again so is Ronaldo. tongue.gif Apart from these two guys, there are a bunch of other interesting and talented picks, but they're not some that I'd have fantasies about.

And yes, Wegner is more than welcome at Milan. Carlo's had a fun ride, and I'm sure every true fan of Milan appreciates what he's done, but when and if the time comes and a change at the top is needed, Weg would be more than a decent choice. And I could care less about strategies if we're winning everything, rather than having good policies and failing.

Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 4 2008, 10:01 AM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 3 2008, 01:40 PM)
Hey, Diavolo, Alberto!

Do you guys know anything about  Uros Palibrk? He's a young Slovenian striker who's currently at Milanello on trial, according to tuttomercatoweb.
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i haven't acctually seen Palibrk play, but i hear he's a great talent...scoring 3 for chelsea on trial and 1 for milan on trial...and he's 15 yrs old, playing last season(when he was 14) in u17 league, scoring 15 goals...

and he likes more italian football then english, so milan is in lead for him...

Posted by: m1ke Mar 4 2008, 11:55 AM



He looks about 8!

Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 4 2008, 01:13 PM

nahh, he looks 15 tongue.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 4 2008, 07:11 PM

lol he looks 8 man

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 11:34 PM

a new team would be nice.

Posted by: Darunia Mar 4 2008, 11:36 PM

This loss is a blessing in disguise, hopefully a wakeup call for our management that we need lot of players to compete next year. No more first round losses.

Posted by: LaPalma Mar 4 2008, 11:46 PM

Danielle de Rossi, Didier Drogba, René Adler, Andrea Barzagli, David Villa and Xabi Alonso would be nice. Just some ideas. Maybe tommorow I might have few more (constructive) thoughts on this.

Posted by: sansiro1708 Mar 4 2008, 11:48 PM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Mar 4 2008, 06:36 PM)
This loss is a blessing in disguise, hopefully a wakeup call for our management that we need lot of players to compete next year.  No more first round losses.
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AGREE 100%
i bet that if would of gone far we would of stayed another season with this team that... its not the milan fans want unsure.gif
2008-2009
a new era will be borne

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 4 2008, 11:54 PM

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Mar 4 2008, 05:46 PM)
Danielle de Rossi, Didier Drogba, René Adler, Andrea Barzagli, David Villa and Xabi Alonso would be nice. Just some ideas. Maybe tommorow I might have few more (constructive) thoughts on this.
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ya those transfers would be great.

i think one of our main problems lies in the midfield. there a few seedorf type players out there. honestly we it would be so much easier to play winger cuz theres so many quality ones out there.

Posted by: Portikins Mar 5 2008, 12:08 AM



Italian job? cool.gif

Mourinholution.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 5 2008, 12:11 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Mar 5 2008, 02:38 AM)


Italian job?  cool.gif

Mourinholution.
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You could change your signature. make it like mine if you're really supporting the Special One!

Posted by: LaPalma Mar 5 2008, 12:15 AM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Mar 5 2008, 12:11 AM)
biggrin.gif

You could change your signature. make it like mine if you're really supporting the Special One!
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Ahem...it's a little confusing. Does it actually mean that Mourinho means Milans death innocent.gif
wink.gif

Mourinholution? Sounds like devoultion.



Or like Mark van Bommel.

Posted by: Portikins Mar 5 2008, 12:17 AM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Mar 4 2008, 11:11 PM)
biggrin.gif

You could change your signature. make it like mine if you're really supporting the Special One!
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I'll try something like that.

Funny how I already got 3 sms on my mobile. Some friends laughing at Arsenal win and 2 of those wrote in the end: "Mourinho will be your coach soon".

Some portuguese forums about football talking about Milan-Arsenal already stated the same.

Just opinions. smile.gif

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 5 2008, 12:22 AM

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Mar 5 2008, 02:45 AM)
Ahem...it's a little confusing. Does it actually mean that Mourinho means Milans death  innocent.gif
wink.gif

Mourinholution? Sounds like devoultion.
Or like Mark van Bommel.
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What? biggrin.gif well no. Mourinho means Milan's sweet new era!

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 5 2008, 12:25 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Mar 5 2008, 02:47 AM)
I'll try something like that.

Funny how I already got 3 sms on my mobile. Some friends laughing at Arsenal win and 2 of those wrote in the end: "Mourinho will be your coach soon".

Some portuguese forums about football talking about Milan-Arsenal already stated the same.

Just opinions.  smile.gif
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That's interesting. I can't say I'm very optimistic about this happening, but I keep the faith...

Posted by: dst Mar 5 2008, 12:32 AM

QUOTE
Kaka rings the changes
Tuesday 4 March, 2008

A desperately disappointed Kaka admits Milan must make changes at the end of this season to revitalise the squad.

“At the end of the season many players reach the end of their contracts and the club will decide what signings to make,” he commented.

The European and World Player of the Year saw his dreams of a second consecutive Champions League collapse with a 2-0 home defeat to Arsenal.

“Tomorrow and the day after will be the most difficult. The Champions League was our objective and now that is gone we must focus on at least trying to achieve fourth place.

“This team has done a great deal over the past few years for its fans and players. Unfortunately this season it went this way.”

Carlo Ancelotti fielded a trident attack, but in 180 minutes they failed to score, even with Pippo Inzaghi and Alexandre Pato spearheading the front line.

“Arsenal played very well in both legs and we lost against a team that played better than we did. When I got the ball and tried to run forward on the counter, myself, Pippo and Pato weren’t sharp enough to do anything better.

“It is an unfortunate setback, but these defeats help you to mature.”

With Milan’s exit there are two Italian sides left in the competition, but both face extremely difficult second legs.

“I think Roma have a good chance of qualifying. They’ll struggle against Real Madrid, but won the home leg and are playing excellent football right now,” said Kaka.

“Inter have less possibility of going through, as we have faced Liverpool twice and they are a very tough team to beat.”


http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/mar4s.html


ohmy.gif How dare he?? We are sooo fine as we are!! Fire him instantly!! He does not want the best of Milan cause he does not repeat what Fester says!! Tell me he is already been given the pink slip! Ridiculous!! And what does he know? He's won a Golden Ball but does he know better than Fester?? Of course not, he knows nothing about football, he is only a footballer...

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Posted by: Portikins Mar 5 2008, 12:36 AM

QUOTE (dst @ Mar 4 2008, 11:32 PM)
ohmy.gif How dare he?? We are sooo fine as we are!! Fire him instantly!! He does not want the best of Milan cause he does not repeat what Fester says!! Tell me he is already been given the pink slip! Ridiculous!! And what does he know? He's won a Golden Ball but does he know better than Fester?? Of course not, he knows nothing about football, he is only a footballer...

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Yeah. Let's say "Forza Milan" no matter what. We're just fine.


Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 5 2008, 12:43 AM

QUOTE (Porty @ Mar 4 2008, 11:17 PM)
I'll try something like that.

Funny how I already got 3 sms on my mobile. Some friends laughing at Arsenal win and 2 of those wrote in the end: "Mourinho will be your coach soon".

Some portuguese forums about football talking about Milan-Arsenal already stated the same.

Just opinions.  smile.gif
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I got a bit of abuse straight after the match aswell, nothing major, but heartbreaking nontheless

Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 5 2008, 02:14 AM

we'll be splashing about a 100 mil. i'm excited and looking foreward.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 5 2008, 02:27 AM

the ultimate summer transfer would be dumping galliani out on the street.

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 5 2008, 02:38 AM

QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Mar 4 2008, 06:43 PM)
I got a bit of abuse straight after the match aswell, nothing major, but heartbreaking nontheless
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ah well we've won it 7 times, how many times have they?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 5 2008, 02:48 AM

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Mar 5 2008, 01:14 AM)
we'll be splashing about a 100 mil.  i'm excited and looking foreward.
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I don't think we'll spend even half of that (£).

Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 5 2008, 03:53 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 4 2008, 07:48 PM)
I don't think we'll spend even half of that (£).
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no i truly believe we'll spend around 100 million euro.

whos out in the summer take a look:

100% CAFU SERGIO MALDINI GILARDINO

50% EMERSON DIDA BROCCHI FAVALLI GOURCUFF

10% KALADZE KALAC AMBRO


Who we could possibly get in the summer:

100% ZAMBROTTA FREY

50% AMAURI/ DROGBA/ BENZEMA/

10% VANDERVAART

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 5 2008, 04:57 AM

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Mar 4 2008, 09:53 PM)
no i truly believe we'll spend around 100 million euro.

whos out in the summer take a look:

100%  CAFU SERGIO MALDINI GILARDINO

50% EMERSON DIDA BROCCHI FAVALLI GOURCUFF

10%  KALADZE KALAC  AMBRO
Who we could possibly get in the summer:

100% ZAMBROTTA FREY

50%  AMAURI/ DROGBA/ BENZEMA/

10% VANDERVAART
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laugh.gif i love how you have the percentages right next to each transfer laugh.gif i agree with the ones exiting but for the ones coming in it's too early to predict who will come.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Mar 5 2008, 05:01 AM

I don't think Cafu will be leaving...

Posted by: bigmacmtl Mar 5 2008, 08:32 AM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Mar 4 2008, 11:01 PM)
I don't think Cafu will be leaving...
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cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif ... blink.gif ... sleep.gif

plz dont say that!

Posted by: LaPalma Mar 5 2008, 10:50 AM

QUOTE (bigmacmtl @ Mar 5 2008, 08:32 AM)
cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif ... blink.gif ... sleep.gif

plz dont say that!
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Why? I say let him stay but don't let him play!

Of course I'll still say Forza Milan. But I also say Forza Kaka for what he said after the match. Big changes need to be made. But I still, even after this season turns out to be a complete failure, don't think galliani is capable of that.

Who'm would I like to see?

GK:
For me René Adler is definetely the man. His incredibly good for a 23 yo GK. It'll take much money, much patience and all our persuasion skills to sign him though. I can't imagine him to sit on the bench as Fillipo mentioned it earlier though. A talented goalie like him is way too ambitioned to accept the bench.
Other O.K. option would be Frey, Robert Enke and maybe Curci. Amelia wouldn't be good enough IMO.

Defense:
A world class CB or last someone who could become that should be of existential interest for us. Ramos would be my first choice....just love that guy. A fighter a leader and extraordinary talent (and he's NOT a RB IMO).
Otherwise Andrea Barzagli, Per Mertesacker (Bremen) or Kolo Toure would be nice. (In a confused moment I was thinking of Wigans Paul Scharner....a retarded, but he'd be nice to scare other teams...).
Another RB and another LB would be good too. I really dunno here. Alves, Jansen, Zambro (very likely) and Rafinha were coming to my mind though.

Midfield:
We need more goals from our midfield. Kaka will always be marked by at least two players if we don't sign someone for this department. Diego would be cool, or at least Xabi Alonso /but he doesn't score that often). Montolivo, although he's not a goalscorer would be great too. He has that special something it needs. On dream mode I'd go for Bayern Toni Kroos, he might just be the next deep lying playmaker and shows some amazing moves for an 18 yo. But it'll be impossible to sign him...

Attack:
DIDIER DROGBA all the way. Just what we need. A strong player unlike all our other strikers and and when he jumps it's almost like he's stopping in the air to head the ball. Rafael van der Vaart would be great too (although Max doesn't like his name). A great second striker with a tremendous left foot and he offers some creativity too.
I certainly don't want to see Amauri in Milan. It would mean another just average striker in our attack and we don't need that.


But hey...I've been saying this for a year now and no one listened...

Posted by: Darunia Mar 5 2008, 04:08 PM

First off, Zambrotta + Drogba. My problem with them is that they are both above 30. It's time Milan invest in some youth. Better alternatives would be Dani Alves and Benzema, those two would be amazing but expensive. Need a GK like Frey, maybe include Gila in one of the deals. A creative midfielder is needed too, and depth at CB.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 5 2008, 04:32 PM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Mar 5 2008, 03:08 PM)
First off, Zambrotta + Drogba.  My problem with them is that they are both above 30.  It's time Milan invest in some youth.  Better alternatives would be Dani Alves and Benzema, those two would be amazing but expensive.  Need a GK like Frey, maybe include Gila in one of the deals.  A creative midfielder is needed too, and depth at CB.
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We have depth at CB, we just need a worldclass DC to replace maldini

Bonera
Nesta
Kaladze
Simic
Maldini

Fullbacks should be a priority as should a DC a MF and a world class striker

Posted by: jefri91 Mar 5 2008, 06:13 PM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Mar 5 2008, 03:08 PM)
First off, Zambrotta + Drogba.  My problem with them is that they are both above 30.  It's time Milan invest in some youth.  Better alternatives would be Dani Alves and Benzema, those two would be amazing but expensive.  Need a GK like Frey, maybe include Gila in one of the deals.  A creative midfielder is needed too, and depth at CB.
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Id love to see a dutch at Milan. but it will never happen. Dumb * are going to say were fine and we dont need to buy anyone. stupid *


Watch the language please buddy - m1ke

Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 5 2008, 06:23 PM

QUOTE (jefri91 @ Mar 5 2008, 11:13 AM)
Id love to see a dutch at Milan. but it will never happen. Dumb * are going to say were fine and we dont need to buy anyone. stupid *
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hopefully this won't happen cry.gif cry.gif

Posted by: dst Mar 5 2008, 06:38 PM

My picks:
1. Buffon (for Gila and cash) / Another great keeper not the Frey quality
2. Zambrotta
2.5. Castellini
3. van der Vaart
4. Benzema

Posted by: Darunia Mar 5 2008, 06:46 PM

QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Mar 5 2008, 10:32 AM)
We have depth at CB, we just need a worldclass DC to replace maldini

Bonera
Nesta
Kaladze
Simic
Maldini

Fullbacks should be a priority as should a DC a MF and a world class striker
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We don't have that much depth, Maldini is leaving and Simic might follow him out. We need a worldclass DC true.

I would love Buffon but Juve's not selling him unless they miss out on CL (unlikely)

Can Van De Vaart play in Seedorf's position? If he can he would be great, he can play in the x-mas tree too sleep.gif

Posted by: sansiro1708 Mar 5 2008, 06:50 PM

u guys are mad i dont want mourinho in milan...remember milan has a tradition "if u have never been part of milan before u will never be the coach"(i made that sentence up but everyone got my idea)
ill keep carletto but we need some new top palyers now!

Posted by: dst Mar 5 2008, 06:57 PM

Donadoni for coach!

Right Fillip? biggrin.gif

Posted by: littlechris Mar 5 2008, 07:05 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Mar 5 2008, 06:38 PM)
My picks:
1. Buffon (for Gila and cash) / Another great keeper not the Frey quality
2. Zambrotta
2.5. Castellini
3. van der Vaart
4. Benzema
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Sacking ancellotti? i'm not in support of that. he has the true milan and italian spirit. if we bring in other expert or mourinho he may help us win trophies. but the tradition of milan will be astake. we just need to sign young players in all department of the field.
Losing to arsenal is hard to accept even up till now it still look like a dream to me but i think that is the right result we deserve now, cos that we pave for changes. the old and tired legs has to retire or go elsewhere. DIDA, KALAC, CAFU, MALDINI, BROCHII, EMERSON AND INZAGHI, they all have to leave milan. Gilardino has spent three consecutive seasons with us without any impact are we still expecting any thing from him? he has to go also.
Let welcome the like of DANI ALVES, LAHM, BARZAGLI, DIEGO, BENZEMA AND DROGBA. Alves should reaplace Oddo, he has ware out maybe is not even his fault signing wing back at 30 is bad that is why i'm not even in support of signing zambrotta again. Dani Alves will fit in in the right back position, lahm will replace Maldini in left back since Jankulovski always struggle with injuries. Barzagli we be a good back up for Nesta or even replace Kaladze at 30 we should not expect any thing better from him again. Diego will be a good back up for Kaka and a long time replacement for seedorf, if Diego is in the midfield of Milan, the midfield we look more fresh with a lot of aggility, pace, skills and creativity unlike the one we saw against Arsenal. no one to support Kaka and no one to understand Pato. building an attack on Kaka, Pato and Benzima will be great and unstopable. if possible Drogba should be included and we should recover Oliviera cos that will give the team more depth and options in attack since Inzaghi and Gilardino should leave.
But there is a big question we should ask ourselve, is Milan ready to spend and get rid of these old soldier and unworthy milan players?.

Posted by: Tennie Mar 5 2008, 07:07 PM

I'm not that sure that we'll see a new coach in Milan next year. However, maybe Carletto will leave.

If we're going to play the 'close your eyes and point at a picture of the 1990 squad' method of picking a new coach, it really could be just about anyone. The only ones ruled out are MVB and Il Capitano.

If Milan's going to go outside the family - and I'm not sure they will - I'd prefer Lippi.

Posted by: Darunia Mar 5 2008, 07:10 PM

When's the last time Milan went outside the family, anyone know?

Posted by: KillerMax Mar 5 2008, 07:12 PM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Mar 5 2008, 12:10 PM)
When's the last time Milan went outside the family, anyone know?
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Fatih Terim? laugh.gif

Posted by: Darunia Mar 5 2008, 07:14 PM

QUOTE
In the summer of 2001, he was named the coach of AC Milan turning down offers from big clubs like FC Barcelona and Liverpool. Immediately he signed Rui Costa and Umit Davala to the club. He transformed AC Milan's system, playing with a system very similar to the Total football style of Rinus Michels. It was a simple 4-3-1-2 formation with Rui Costa as the playmaker. While he was coaching AC Milan, the team reached the third round of the UEFA Cup. However, after several disappointing results, he was terminated and making his AC Milan career last only 5 months.


At least he got Rui biggrin.gif

New coach means new players, which is good. I could see Rikjaard coming along with Zambrotta.

Posted by: sansiro1708 Mar 5 2008, 07:55 PM

my dream MILAN! coach = R.Baggio rolleyes.gif 96.gif

Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 5 2008, 08:45 PM

hey guys...i was thinking, we might have Maldini as coach next year...or even Maldini + Costacurta....or at least having them as asistan managers...

what considers transfers...

Akinfeev/Boruc...forget buffon and frey

Barzagli/Felipe/Zapata (we need someone from serie A)

Zambrotta

Modric (Would be best ever solution for our midfield, can play in pirlo's position, seedorf's position, kaka's position and even in gattuso's position)

Mancini i would love, maybe we could train him back for a full back, he was marked as new cafu when he came to roma

Drogba/Benzema/Pazzini

Posted by: acid911 Mar 5 2008, 08:46 PM

QUOTE (sansiro1708 @ Mar 5 2008, 11:55 PM)
my dream MILAN! coach = R.Baggio

Robert "10" Baggio? Not a bad choice, but I'm not sure about his credentials and technical skills as a coach. Honestly speaking though, I'm pretty open with the choice of a coach, be it the Mourn Man, or Lippi or even - dare I say it - Baresi. We do need some fresh tactics to kick start a new era. So yeah, Carlo can stay or if he prefers to leave it's fine by me. He's given his best to Milan, in whatever capacity you think of. dry.gif

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 5 2008, 09:03 PM

QUOTE (aLbErTo @ Mar 5 2008, 07:45 PM)
hey guys...i was thinking, we might have Maldini as coach next year...or even Maldini + Costacurta....or at least having them as asistan managers...

what considers transfers...

Akinfeev/Boruc...forget buffon and frey

Barzagli/Felipe/Zapata (we need someone from serie A)

Zambrotta

Modric (Would be best ever solution for our midfield, can play in pirlo's position, seedorf's position, kaka's position and even in gattuso's position)

Mancini i would love, maybe we could train him back for a full back, he was marked as new cafu when he came to roma

Drogba/Benzema/Pazzini
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Maldini has clearly said he dosent want to enter management or coaching, he would like to continue in some capacity with the club though

Posted by: misha Mar 5 2008, 09:42 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 5 2008, 09:46 PM)
Robert "10" Baggio? Not a bad choice, but I'm not sure about his credentials and technical skills as a coach. Honestly speaking though, I'm pretty open with the choice of a coach, be it the Mourn Man, or Lippi or even - dare I say it - Baresi. We do need some fresh tactics to kick start a new era. So yeah, Carlo can stay or if he prefers to leave it's fine by me. He's given his best to Milan, in whatever capacity you think of. dry.gif
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That would be my choice over 'the challenged one' any time.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 5 2008, 10:05 PM

Having a world class striker can make all the difference; look at Torres and Liverpool, so that should be a major priority.

I am against Drogba as he would be purely a short term option, which is something we dont need. In Business terms that would be developing our workforce, which is something we are guilty of not doing

Posted by: acid911 Mar 5 2008, 10:06 PM

QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Mar 6 2008, 01:03 AM)
Maldini has clearly said he dosent want to enter management or coaching, he would like to continue in some capacity with the club though

Right choice in my opinion. Considering how much crap we put on over Carlo (granted he's not in the same league as Maldini and is a rigid old rabbit), but still Paolo would look better as some one who works with the club, ala Leonardo. king.gif

QUOTE (mishale @ Mar 6 2008, 01:42 AM)
That would be my choice over 'the challenged one' any time.

About time, I'd say, for Baresi. Not to mention, he's ten times more passionate about Milan than Carlo. Hypothetically speaking, of course. tongue.gif

Posted by: Tennie Mar 5 2008, 10:32 PM

There are also a couple of other options from the youth team coaching ranks: Filippo Galli and Chicco Evani have both been rather successful (Evani's team won the scudetto for the berretti), etc. They're also both family. Additionally, Mauro Tassotti has his coaching license and Billy Costacurta is working on his as we speak.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 5 2008, 10:49 PM

Billy would be a decent choice too, but I'd rather he had a little more experience, and then by all means he can make himself available. Of course, I'd prefer to see Baresi more than Billy at this time.

I won't mind Lippi either. Or the ex-Chelsea dude for that matter, with all his attitude problems. Someone who can at least motivate the players, which I doubt Carlo can. We should have come in steaming out after the second half yesterday, instead our intensity dropped by the minute. sad.gif

Posted by: Besfort Mar 5 2008, 11:10 PM

What we need

a GK
a RB
a CB
a LB
2 Midfielders
and 2 strikers.

Goalkeeper

My picks: Frey, Amelia, Kameni.
Frey is doing good lately, but he is an injury prone (exactly what we don't need) will make us suffer even more when he's out.
Kameni, is a goalkeeper that can make wonder saves, but also concede goals that even my grandpa would held it. He's still young and can become better, but right now we need someone who is able to get some clean sheets most of games.
Amelia is the best goalkeeper in Italy right now, after Buffon of course. I've seen Livorno games many times, and I've seen that he won a lot of points to them.
I've seen him catching the ball like an apple, after an extremely powerful shot was made.
My choice: Amelia

Right-Back

My picks: Zambrotta, Alves, Miguel, Cicinho.
Zambrotta, once the best wing-back in the world, now struggling to find his best at Barcelona, is a great chance for us to get him, considering his homesickness + He does not go very well with Spanish play style.
We can get him on cheap + has 2-3 more years to give from his legs and teach Oddo how to be great in his position.
Alves is also a great possibility for us to get him, after his "every day" comments about wanting to leave Sevilla for a bigger club.
We are a big club, we had his hero (Cafu) here, If our management would be ready to splash some cash out there, I don't think he would reject such a wonderful club like Milan.
Miguel, the Valencia Right-back, has a great potential of being a player.
The unknown-before Benfica player, was the one to steal Paulo Ferreira's place in Portugal's national team.
I like his speed, his dribbling skills and his crosses. Surely one of the best Right-backs in the world.
Cicinho The Roma wing-back, was a starter for Brazil in Confederation's Cup, when they won the trophy.
I was so impressed, when I saw his games, his moves and his ability to pass the player he had in front of him.
I think we can get him too. Watching him most of times as a back-up of Panucci or Cassetti.

Everyone is great there, but my choice would be Zambrotta, considering his experience he has in Italian football.

Left-Back
My picks: Lahm, Taiwo, Vargas.

Lahm Young + Talent.
Always like to see Bayern play, just because of him. He plays like he knows football for ages.
Taiwo is another young defender, with a monster shot and with great defensive abilities to stop a player that comes to his position.
Impressed in African cup of nations.
Vargas the Roberto Carlos of Catania. No need to say more, since everyone that watches Serie A has seen him play.

My choice: Lahm

Midfielders

My picks: Raul Garcia, De Rossi, Cigarini.
Raul Garcia, the Atletico Madrid center midfielder can become a great in years. Would not be a bad choice, since he can replace Pirlo anytime.
De Rossi will sure become Roma symbol, when Totti will retire. I know it's almost impossible to get him, but would really add depth in our squad with his gentle playing style.
Cigarini is surely Pirlo's heir. I could see him giving 101% against us, just to make our management's mind to give it a try for him.

My choices: Cigarini and Raul Garcia since we can't get De Rossi.

Strikers
My picks: Benzema, Aguero, Drogba, Shevchenko.

My choice: Shevchenko and Aguero.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 5 2008, 11:38 PM

Very interesting choices, Besfort. I'd love both Alves and Zambo, considering the later can Italian can play at both the left and right sides. And oh, I can bet my sweet Google, Shevchenko won't be coming back. It would be disastrous for him after how he left, and to come back now with his tail between his legs. I'm sure he'll stay at Chelsea for another 2-3 years and then return to Dynamo Kiev to end his career there.

But then again, this is football we're talking about, so anything can happen.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 6 2008, 12:14 AM

QUOTE (dst @ Mar 5 2008, 06:57 PM)
Donadoni for coach!

Right Fillip? biggrin.gif
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He'll be EC with Italy and stay another 2 years innocent.gif

QUOTE
My picks: Zambrotta, Alves, Miguel, Cicinho

Okay. As I said before. I love Zambrotta. But we need speed, youth, freshness on the RB or LB. We need a man who can attack, cross. Zambro isn't bad for that but never the first choice. We need a new Cafu or Sergio. Someone who has a +C/-B in defensive work and a A in offensive...

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 6 2008, 12:35 AM

I think alot of these trasnfers depend on whether we get 4th place. I can't see alot of them wanting to join us if we're in the UEFA Cup (Unless they're already playing for a team not in Europe).

Posted by: KingKaka Mar 6 2008, 12:36 AM

the good side to loseing to arsenal is we will change the team bring in new players am looking forward to the summer now want to see this new milan daniel alves would be a gud start come on milan splash out go back to brazil find us another wonderkid and for the 08/09 season i want a nice kit dont like this years one start feeding pato spuds so he will grow to the height of Adebayor load emerson out to westbrom so i can laugh at his head ina westbrom jersey and finally tell ba to end his carear in hell his takeing up a gud spot on our team......... and finally feed inzaghi he must be bout 2 stone one of these days he will fart and turn inside out 96.gif

Posted by: Tennie Mar 6 2008, 01:07 AM

QUOTE (KingKaka @ Mar 5 2008, 07:36 PM)
....... and finally feed inzaghi he must be bout 2 stone one of these days he will fart and turn inside out 96.gif
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Nice one, KingKaka.

The fish doll owes you a cookie for that. 96.gif

Posted by: omahawi Mar 6 2008, 01:16 AM

I look at this as a nice wake up call. I don't think this situtation will EVER happen again in the history of Milan. You don't learn to be the best without making mistakes.

Posted by: KingKaka Mar 6 2008, 01:17 AM

QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 6 2008, 12:07 AM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Nice one, KingKaka.

The fish doll owes you a cookie for that.  96.gif
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i like a cookie
cookie cookie

Posted by: dst Mar 6 2008, 01:24 AM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 6 2008, 01:14 AM)
He'll be EC with Italy and stay another 2 years innocent.gif
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Hmm... would not mind Italy winning the EC. But how about we get Donadoni after that? biggrin.gif

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 6 2008, 01:35 AM)
I think alot of these trasnfers depend on whether we get 4th place. I can't see alot of them wanting to join us if we're in the UEFA Cup (Unless they're already playing for a team not in Europe).
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True. But I believe we will make it! smile.gif

Posted by: acid911 Mar 6 2008, 01:29 AM

QUOTE (KingKaka @ Mar 6 2008, 04:36 AM)
... feed inzaghi he must be bout 2 stone one of these days he will fart and turn inside out.

You're the king, KingKaka. But even this one wasn't quite able to lift the spirit of Pola (my pet polar bear). He's been down and out since our match with the Gooners. sad.gif


Posted by: acid911 Mar 6 2008, 01:30 AM

QUOTE (omahawi @ Mar 6 2008, 05:16 AM)
I look at this as a nice wake up call. I don't think this situtation will EVER happen again in the history of Milan. You don't learn to be the best without making mistakes.

Don't bet on it. This has happened before (I'm sure older members here at the forum will be able to tell you this), and will happen again. The cycle ends and restarts. Plus, the way our board has been running things expect something similar once Pirlo, Gattuso, Amrbo, etc are nearing the end of their careers. dry.gif

Posted by: acid911 Mar 6 2008, 01:31 AM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Mar 6 2008, 04:35 AM)
I think alot of these trasnfers depend on whether we get 4th place. I can't see alot of them wanting to join us if we're in the UEFA Cup (Unless they're already playing for a team not in Europe).

We'll make it Kurt, my man. We'll make it. smile.gif

Posted by: Darunia Mar 6 2008, 01:38 AM

A scenario I could see happening is Italy losing in the group stages and Carlo moving on to the national team, and then Milan signing Lippi or Rikjaard. This is under the assumption Barcelona don't win it all, which I think they're the favorites.

Posted by: KingKaka Mar 6 2008, 01:40 AM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Mar 6 2008, 12:29 AM)
You're the king, KingKaka. But even this one wasn't quite able to lift the spirit of Pola (my pet polar bear). He's been down and out since our match with the Gooners. sad.gif


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pola must of sat on her conkers no need to be down we are mighty milan we will bounce back next year and we will make 4th place i have to belive we will milan will sort out there transfer's in the summer and in the future we WILL lift cl trophy again cool.gif

Posted by: acid911 Mar 6 2008, 01:47 AM

QUOTE (KingKaka @ Mar 6 2008, 05:40 AM)
pola must of sat on her conkers no need to be down we are mighty milan we will bounce back next year and we will make 4th place i have to belive we will milan will sort out there transfer's in the summer and in the future we WILL lift cl trophy again

Yes, true. I believe we'll lift another CL before the turn of the decade, and another couple of them after Paolo's sons join the team - the dynasty will continue. king.gif

Posted by: Tennie Mar 6 2008, 01:50 AM

By the way, young Christian's team is doing rather well this year.

I'm really looking forward to when Daniel starts, though. HE is the one who unleashed a slide tackle on Seedorf and dispossessed him of the ball (clip on youtube) in such a way that proves to many (including me) that slide tackling is a genetic ability. Pity he's only 6.

Posted by: KingKaka Mar 6 2008, 01:54 AM

course it will and we will all be around to see it might take a year maybe 5 or 10 but it will happen and u no what pato is gonna be king

Posted by: acid911 Mar 6 2008, 02:02 AM

Agree with what you two have said, and Tenster and KK. Both the lads are doing well, and if I were them I'd work day in and day out to hone my skills. I heard Paolo and Caesar say that they won't push the kids into choosing Football as a profession, but if they want to they can continue the dynasty. Plus I read Christian even wants Paolo to keep playing (hehe, image Christian's first match along with his father at Milan). I understand it won't happen, but oh, I'm so lucky to be living in the Age of Maldini! cool.gif

Fingers crossed we make some good signings this summer, starting with some world class strikers.

Posted by: LaPalma Mar 6 2008, 09:13 AM

Age of Maldini...sounds good to me.

Btw...I forgot to mention someone I'd like to see in Milan next year:

Maio Gomez

A bright talent from Germany. He was "Football player of the year" in 2007 and he's only 22 yo. He's a very strong guy with a nice shot, he's good in the air, etc.

But then I was almost always wrong when it came to the class of german players, especially strikers (Poldi dry.gif ...).

Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 6 2008, 09:49 AM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 6 2008, 01:14 AM)
As I said before. I love Zambrotta. But we need speed, youth, freshness on the RB or LB. We need a man who can attack, cross. Zambro isn't bad for that but never the first choice. We need a new Cafu or Sergio. Someone who has a +C/-B in defensive work and a A in offensive...
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Mancini, as he was marked as new cafu when he came to roma...we might train him back smile.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Mar 6 2008, 12:58 PM

Every Brazilian RB is hailed as the new Cafu! tongue.gif

Posted by: LaPalma Mar 6 2008, 01:25 PM

There is always a new Cafu, Roberto Carlos, Pele, Maradonna, Platini, Zidane, Linneker, George best, Hierro, di Stefano, Ronaldo, Gerd Müller, Figo.... sleepysmiley03.gif sleepysmiley03.gif sleepysmiley03.gif

Posted by: dst Mar 6 2008, 03:36 PM

Damn man, there are even a couple of new Messi's out there! laugh.gif And expect to hear of the new Pato next season too...

QUOTE (Tennie @ Mar 6 2008, 02:50 AM)
By the way, young Christian's team is doing rather well this year.

I'm really looking forward to when Daniel starts, though. HE is the one who unleashed a slide tackle on Seedorf and dispossessed him of the ball (clip on youtube) in such a way that proves to many (including me) that slide tackling is a genetic ability. Pity he's only 6.
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I hope they both make it to the senior team. Even if Maldini's quality has been halved between them we are going to be just fine! king.gif

But the truth is I really want a third Maldini era. Another Maldini lifting the CL trophy in the air... then be sure that we will be supporting the same club but with a different name... AC Maldini... and people will see the light and bow before God... and... sleepysmiley03.gif

Posted by: KillerMax Mar 6 2008, 03:51 PM

I just had a realization... We could have TWO Maldinis playing in the same Milan team... ohmy.gif ohmy.gif devil.gif devilsmiley.gif

Just think about the potential... WOW...

Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 6 2008, 06:14 PM

MODRIC people MODRIC...and he hasn't signed for barca as other were saying here !! we need just one midfielder for next season if we buy him...complete midfield player !!!

he'll be the world best in couple of years, remember this words...

Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 6 2008, 07:06 PM

he wont move to milan trust me. Modric isa barcafanatic. Even if we paid 50 mil.

Posted by: dst Mar 6 2008, 07:32 PM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Mar 6 2008, 04:51 PM)
I just had a realization... We could have TWO Maldinis playing in the same Milan team... ohmy.gif  ohmy.gif  devil.gif  devilsmiley.gif

Just think about the potential... WOW...
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And then go 50 years in the future... there could be 3 or 4 of them! biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Mar 6 2008, 08:06 PM)
he wont move to milan trust me.  Modric isa barcafanatic.  Even if we paid 50 mil.
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He will become a Milan fan if he comes here! cool.gif

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 6 2008, 08:32 PM

We are again being linked heavily with Hugo Loris of Nice (and Sebastian Frey (but that isnt new news).

Sports websites seem to rate the 21 Year old Loris pretty highly, but i havent seen him play myself

Does anyone know of him, or what he is capable of? Any Ligue 1 followers out there?

Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 6 2008, 10:48 PM

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Mar 6 2008, 08:06 PM)
he wont move to milan trust me.  Modric isa barcafanatic.  Even if we paid 50 mil.
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exactly...i don't think he would reject milan, especially cause boban is idol for almost every midfield in croatia wink.gif

Posted by: sansiro1708 Mar 7 2008, 02:00 AM

I WANT RAFINHA!

Posted by: aLbErTo Mar 7 2008, 09:11 AM

I found out today in slovenian media that Uros Palibrk deal is confirmed from both sides, they are just waiting for a signature...so let's say we started our summer transfer window with 15yearold...

Posted by: dst Mar 7 2008, 11:49 AM

QUOTE (aLbErTo @ Mar 7 2008, 10:11 AM)
I found out today in slovenian media that Uros Palibrk deal is confirmed from both sides, they are just waiting for a signature...so let's say we started our summer transfer window with 15yearold...
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Sweet! I hope one of Paloschi, Umunegbu and Palibrk turn out to be good! If more than one we'd be very lucky!! smile.gif

Posted by: Darunia Mar 7 2008, 07:20 PM

Benzema extended his contract sad.gif

he's not leaving. unless u pay a ton. Drogba it is then.

Posted by: maldini03 Mar 7 2008, 11:13 PM

QUOTE (sansiro1708 @ Mar 6 2008, 05:00 PM)
I WANT RAFINHA!
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Yea he is a beast!! Lol smile.gif

Posted by: maldini03 Mar 7 2008, 11:16 PM

Here is his bio from Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A1rcio_Rafael_Ferreira_de_Souza
I lik ehim attacks well young good shot stop me when there is something you dont like. king.gif

Posted by: Portikins Mar 7 2008, 11:31 PM

QUOTE
Drogba Milan's Number One Target



Chelsea striker Didier Drogba is top of AC Milan's shopping list, according to reports. The Rossoneri are willing to spend €20m (£15m) to get their man.

This is not the first time that the Ivorian - whose future at Stamford Bridge is less than clear - has been linked with Milan.

But the Rossoneri's early exit from the Champions League has hammered home to top officials that they are crying out for a decent centre forward.  Drogba, it seems, is top of their wish list.

Wednesday Meeting

According to the Sun, Milan technical director Ariedo Braida met Drogba's representatives in Italy on Wednesday, just a day after the European exit to Arsenal.

"Milan are crazy about Didier. There was a meeting in Milan this week and the Italians said Didier is their priority for this summer," a source close to Drogba reportedly confirmed to the newspaper.

Wage Bitterness


The 30-year-old is said to be unhappy with his wages at Stamford Bridge, which are less than half those earned by club skipper John Terry.  Chelsea have thus far failed to honour their promise to him of a pay rise, a vow made after last season's FA Cup triumph.

€20m The Limit

One stumbling block may be the price that Chelsea demand for the striker, who has been quoted in several French publications in recent months as saying he wanted to move on following José Mourinho's departure.  Milan have allegedly told the Ivorian star to put pressure on the Blues to allow a move to go through for €20m or less - the Rossoneri have made it clear that they won't be held to ransom.  Drogba joined Chelsea from Marseille for close to double that amount in 2004.

GOAL.com


I'd be happy with this. Not only about the transfer itself but because it would mean another thing too.

Posted by: Portikins Mar 7 2008, 11:32 PM

QUOTE (maldini03 @ Mar 7 2008, 10:16 PM)
Here is his bio from Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A1rcio_Rafael_Ferreira_de_Souza
I lik ehim attacks well young good shot stop me when there is something you dont like. king.gif
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I'd welcome Rafinha too. But it seems we're not interested in any full-back besides Zambrotta.

Rafinha it's rumoured he's going Liverpool next season.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Mar 7 2008, 11:37 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Mar 6 2008, 01:24 AM)
Hmm... would not mind Italy winning the EC. But how about we get Donadoni after that? biggrin.gif
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After winning the EC? Allright with me. But only if he wins it,.. tongue.gif

Rafinha? As I said before, excellent choice. Would be very welcome to come in.
Luka Modric? He's exactly what we would need. Only thing he needs right now is a coach like Carlo to "invent" a new position-combo for Luka, like he did with Seedorf and Pirlo.

Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 8 2008, 07:11 AM

drogba would be an amazing transfer and out with gila. Give pato starting role and paloschi and inzaghi to sub on and if ronaldo comes out if injury we'll have him too.

Posted by: KillerMax Mar 8 2008, 07:29 AM

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Mar 8 2008, 12:11 AM)
drogba would be an amazing transfer and out with gila.  Give pato starting role and paloschi and inzaghi to sub on and if ronaldo comes out if injury we'll have him too.
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Drogba, Pato, Paloschi(not ready yet for top flight action) and Inzaghi (too old and too unavailable) is far far from a World class attack list.

Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 8 2008, 07:31 AM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Mar 8 2008, 12:29 AM)
Drogba, Pato, Paloschi(not ready yet for top flight action) and Inzaghi (too old and too unavailable) is far far from a World class attack list.
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really? I dont see it as too bad. Drogba is physical and proven worldclass while pato is definetly extraordinary so he should start. I dont look at him as a 18 year old. He plays much better, when hes not acting like a school-kid. Paloschi still has room to grow and he will become excellent given match time.

+ if carlo is stayin it garuntees next season it'll be seedorf/gourcuff and kaka plus one foreward.

Posted by: KillerMax Mar 8 2008, 07:35 AM

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Mar 8 2008, 12:31 AM)
really?  I dont see it as too bad.  Drogba is physical and proven worldclass while pato is definetly extraordinary so he should start.  I dont look at him as a 18 year old.  He plays much better, when hes not acting like a school-kid.  Paloschi still has room to grow and he will become excellent given match time. 

+  if carlo is stayin it garuntees next season it'll be seedorf/gourcuff and kaka plus one foreward.
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Add to that list one Suazo type player, and we will be set. For example:

Drogba, Pato, Saviola, Paloschi, Inzaghi

Now that looks pretty healthy.

Posted by: Bluesummers Mar 8 2008, 07:37 AM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Mar 8 2008, 12:35 AM)
Add to that list one Suazo type player, and we will be set. For example:

Drogba, Pato, Saviola, Paloschi, Inzaghi

Now that looks pretty healthy.
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Yeah true that, but then paloschi gets left out because inzaghi has a higher chance of getting playing time. I dont know, i just feel he deserves a chance.

Posted by: KillerMax Mar 8 2008, 07:42 AM

QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Mar 8 2008, 12:37 AM)
Yeah true that, but then paloschi gets left out because inzaghi has a higher chance of getting playing time.  I dont know, i just feel he deserves a chance.
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How often is Inzaghi fit and available to play? Not very often. Paloschi will get his chance, but you are right, Ancelotti is not the type of coach to develop youngsters.

Posted by: KillerMax Mar 8 2008, 07:53 AM

Seems like everybody has forgotten about Huntelaar. Just like Berbatov, he is going to waste in a mediocre team. The team that signs him will get the better end of the deal because 1) He is not very expensive 2) He has so much quality

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 8 2008, 08:49 AM

QUOTE (Darunia @ Mar 7 2008, 09:50 PM)
Benzema extended his contract sad.gif

he's not leaving. unless u pay a ton.  Drogba it is then.
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Makes no difference to us as he's Spain/England-bound...

It seems he's not gonna repeat many youngsters' mistake of leaving for a big club in a rush. I like him a lot. he's very intelligent.

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Mar 8 2008, 10:05 AM)
Add to that list one Suazo type player, and we will be set. For example:

Drogba, Pato, Saviola, Paloschi, Inzaghi

Now that looks pretty healthy.
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Saviola?! he's nowhere near Suazo imo...

Posted by: LaPalma Mar 8 2008, 11:53 AM

Saviola is cr@p IMO. Never made it at a big team. But Quagliarella woule be nice IMO.

Posted by: dst Mar 8 2008, 01:42 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Mar 8 2008, 09:49 AM)
Makes no difference to us as he's Spain/England-bound...

It seems he's not gonna repeat many youngsters' mistake of leaving for a big club in a rush. I like him a lot. he's very intelligent.
Saviola?! he's nowhere near Suazo imo...
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He said he prefers Spain and Italy to England so why do you think he's England bound?

I agree with that.

QUOTE (LaPalma @ Mar 8 2008, 12:53 PM)
Saviola is cr@p IMO. Never made it at a big team. But Quagliarella woule be nice IMO.
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Saviola's job is to keep the benches clean... Quagliarella would be welcomed if he has no problem with not being a starter.

Posted by: KillerMax Mar 8 2008, 02:09 PM

Saviola is not THAT bad. I put his name in that list to fill the space for an above average striker who is preferably fast. I personally don't want him in Milan. Any of you know any good fast strikers?

Posted by: zdrossoneri Mar 8 2008, 02:41 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Mar 8 2008, 04:12 PM)
He said he prefers Spain and Italy to England so why do you think he's England bound?
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Really? didn't know that...

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Mar 8 2008, 03:42 PM

QUOTE (dst @ Mar 8 2008, 12:42 PM)
He said he prefers Spain and Italy to England so why do you think he's England bound?

I agree with that.
Saviola's job is to keep the benches clean... Quagliarella would be welcomed if he has no problem with not being a starter.
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Quagliarella is extremely versatile, he play play anywhere in midfield and attack, except CM. Lets say is Seedorf gets injured, he can easily slot into his position, in the Trequartista role or even as an SS or CF, not to mention he can go out wide if need be

The health and age of (most) of our players means he will find space

Posted by: omahawi Mar 8 2008, 10:07 PM

Huntelaar would be a great option along with Drogba who i absolutely love to watch play. I can't remember what game I was watching him play in. It was 1 on 1 with the defender with a ball that got played to him in the air at the top of the box. He had no support. He was spun around by the defender still managed to get seperation after the ball was played a couple yards into the box. The keeper then came out after the ball. Drogba pushed it to the side while getting clipped by the keeper. Clearly a penalty. Instead of going down he ran down the ball and put the ball into the open net. NOW THAT IS CLASS!

Combine him and Huntelaar who has a knack for being in the right place at the right time and Pato who can run at people I think you have yourself a great attacking core.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 8 2008, 11:06 PM

I agree. I'd love to see Huntelaar in Milan too. Drogba is one of the best around, but then again he's on the right side of 30, so he'll be as good as Sheva in my opinion. Hunt would be a longterm option, coupled with some solid signings in the midfield and defense. king.gif

Posted by: dst Mar 8 2008, 11:13 PM

QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Mar 8 2008, 03:41 PM)
Really? didn't know that...
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Still of course I would not be to surprised to see him play for United or Arsenal...

Posted by: Il Capitano Mar 8 2008, 11:56 PM

QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Mar 8 2008, 01:09 PM)
Saviola is not THAT bad. I put his name in that list to fill the space for an above average striker who is preferably fast. I personally don't want him in Milan. Any of you know any good fast strikers?
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Sergio Agüero is very fast but he is a player that we will never get. They did pay 20 million Euros when he was 16/17 years old, I can't imagaine how much they want for him now.

Posted by: Panama Devil Mar 9 2008, 02:14 AM

Every single time that we hear Galliani's or Ancelotti's explanations or excuses when our team doesn't play the way we all want them to play we are all listening to the reasons that support the need to get new young players.

When we hear these excuses we can find words and phrases like: injuries, tired, tight schedule, not enough time, too many games, etc.

AC Milan has been a winning team for the last 20 years but we cannot forget that during those 20 years we had a small period of darkness during the late 90's. We cannot fall into that scenario again just because of stubborness. Our team, as a company, has to be present in all the big tournaments. I'm not saying that we are already a complete chaos but forget about what we've won in the last years and look where we are right now: TRYING TO GET TO FOURTH PLACE ... THAT'S IT!

We have to start thinking about the future.

Let's take Arsenal FC as an example: We were eliminated by a very good team, a team that is in first place in the EP and a team that is playing a fast, fun and effective game. They deserved to qualify because of what they showed. It's interesting to see how a team that lost Pires, Henry, Viera, etc. (due to various reasons after being one of the best teams in the world) are such a good team again. They began hiring young talented players.

Our team's core is very good. We have Kaka and we have Pato. But we cannot let them run George Weah's fate. We have to accept that even though we have a good team, we do not have enough depth to fight 2 or 3 fronts at the same time. It all started last year ... we won the Champions but we barely made it to the first four. Now we were eliminated and we still have to fight for the fourth spot. WHY IS THIS HAPPENING? Players are too tired, some are too old to play so often at the highest level and we do not have enough depth.

The other thing we need is to stop hiring players TOO specialized in their fields. WHAT DO I MEAN BY THIS?

We can hire a player who fights the ball in the middle like a dog but can still make good passes and can still get a good shot at the enemy keep.

We all love Gattuso but it would realy be nice if he could take a good shot once in a while. Same story for Brocchi.

Pirlo is great but we need somebody else to run the show on the other half of the field. I dunno what you people think but I really like it when Pirlo has played in the front. Distributing the ball and making those cool passes. We need another good passer to play in a more attacking role. We all know Kaka is not the passing type midfielder.

During the last couple of years our attack has been relying on few players. We are TOO PREDICTIBLE as a team.

We need more attack and more skilled players. You know for me it is really depressing when I see my idol (Maldini) play on the left and attack with such a good skill and seeing that the younger players we have cannot do that. Right now Maldini is our most talented and skilled player that can play an attacking role on the flanks.

Just take a look and see how the Arsenal kids attack from everyside of the field. They come from the left, the right, the middle, long passes, short passes, fast one touch passes. That's what we need OPTIONS ON THE FIELD.

This guy NEVES seems like a very skillfull and strong player and he uses both legs. We should get him, as well as Drogba and Huntelaar to replace Gila.

I'm sorry for all Gila supporters ... who knows ... maybe his destiny is to be a good forward somewhere else but it is not going to happen with AC Milan. Gila has no skills, misses too much, doesn't knows to position himself like Pippo and is a terrible shooter. AC Milan and Gilardino are not meant to be.

Posted by: acid911 Mar 9 2008, 03:25 AM

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The other thing we need is to stop hiring players TOO specialized in their fields.
We can hire a player who fights the ball in the middle like a dog but can still make good passes and can still get a good shot at the enemy keep.
We all love Gattuso but it would realy be nice if he could take a good shot once in a while. Same story for Brocchi.

Couldn't have said it better. Neves could be an excellent option here. Look at how Arsenal got the first goal. Febregas knew things were not connecting well, so he took the matters in his own hands. The only play who I've regularly seen hit long range shots is Gorcuff. Or Seedorf when he was young. You never know when a ball might go in, or the keeper spills it and your strikers can work his magic. biggrin.gif

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During the last couple of years our attack has been relying on few players. We are TOO PREDICTIBLE as a team.

True. True. sad.gif

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We need more attack and more skilled players.  You know for me it is really depressing when I see my idol (Maldini) play on the left and attack with such a good skill and seeing that the younger players we have cannot do that.  Right now Maldini is our most talented and skilled player that can play an attacking role on the flanks.

100%. For a defender, Paolo has great vision. I've seen a whole bunch of great air balls and crosses from our captain, a good chunk of which have resulted in goals. In fact, in games (FIFA and PES) I always play him in a slightly more attacking role. Oddo or someone else can't even come close - even in games! smile.gif

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I'm sorry for all Gila supporters ... who knows ... maybe his destiny is to be a good forward somewhere else but it is not going to happen with AC Milan. Gila has no skills, misses too much, doesn't knows to position himself like Pippo and is a terrible shooter. AC Milan and Gilardino are not meant to be.

Right. I guess we shouldn't waste his career then. If he can't improve, adapt, or improvise, then let him go to another club where he can shine. No point in playing and bashing the man. dry.gif

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