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post Oct 6 2016, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Oct 6 2016, 10:07 AM) *
Not convinced about Fabregas, feels like he no longer plays at the same level as the past. Do we really want another has-been? Hoping this approach will end the moment Galliani is fone.


Fabregas would be a blessing given the dire situation of our midfield.

QUOTE (William405 @ Oct 6 2016, 01:02 PM) *
Really, greedy? I don't think it is an appropriate word at all. Oh well.


Semantics. He's not being reasonable, at all.
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post Oct 7 2016, 06:36 AM
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Yes. I'm a bit shocked with the demands made by Maldini. If the newspaper reports are true, then all we expect of Maldini in the club is exactly what the team are offering him in the new role. More than that, I feel he has to work his way up and earn. A bit like Leonardo or even Nedved.

No disrespect intended, but the technical director role with the kind of autonomy that Maldini is asking for is earned and not just given.

I feel our experience giving our ex-players coaching roles based on minimal experience should be proof enough how much times have changed and you need specialists.

EDIT: Just read Sabatini has resigned with immediate effect. Can we get him in please? I mean, I find it hard to believe Mirabelli is better than Sabatini.
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post Oct 7 2016, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 6 2016, 09:33 PM) *
Fabregas would be a blessing given the dire situation of our midfield.

Don't disagree, but IMHO there are better options out there. One of my biggest complaints about Galliani's recent strategy is continuing to bring in "have been" players with declining ability and questionable motivation, and I fear that what we would be getting with Fabregas. While we do need someone with experience, we also need someone with energy and the right spirit.

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Semantics. He's not being reasonable, at all.

Agreed
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post Oct 7 2016, 04:22 PM
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Massimiliano Mirabelli is following Nice's 17 year old CB Malang Sarr, but Arsenal are also very interested in him. #TMW

Vangioni could leave Milan in January. His agent will start looking for a club. #TMW

Mirabelli was one of the few people at Inter that thought Geoffrey Kondogbia wasn't worth the money, valued him at €15m.
[Sky Italia]

Thiago Silva's agent: “There are many clubs interested in signing Thiago Silva. He’s in love with Milan. He loves the club and the city. We’ve had no contact with the Italian club. He is still under contract with PSG but a return to Milan could be possible if we don’t sign a new contract. The rossoneri have good chances to qualify for the Champions League.”


Thiago Silva agent: "Contract talks with PSG have been put on hold. We are going to evaluate the future alongside the club. But if PSG fail to qualify for Champions League this season, we are not going to sign a new contract, that’s for sure."


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post Oct 7 2016, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Oct 6 2016, 10:07 AM) *
Not convinced about Fabregas, feels like he no longer plays at the same level as the past. Do we really want another has-been? Hoping this approach will end the moment Galliani is fone.

He's still only 29 IIRC. I wouldn't go as far as calling him a has-been. He just had a bad season last year, like basically the rest of the Chelsea players. And Conte simply prefers Matic and Kante to him because when it comes to a certain type of player, they're right up his alley

Also, I don't expect us to instantly be able to bring in the best young talent around. We're going to have to work at it. Not only are we not in the CL but we're playing in Italy, which these days is far less attractive than the EPL of La Liga

QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Oct 6 2016, 04:05 PM) *
According Il Giornale there is a big discrepancy in Maldini offer for the job. The new owners are offering 600 thousand euro, Maldini request is €3m.

Don't think money has anything to do with thise. As Paolo stated in his interview, money is not the issue but the role he's being offered is

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 7 2016, 06:36 AM) *
Yes. I'm a bit shocked with the demands made by Maldini. If the newspaper reports are true, then all we expect of Maldini in the club is exactly what the team are offering him in the new role. More than that, I feel he has to work his way up and earn. A bit like Leonardo or even Nedved.

No disrespect intended, but the technical director role with the kind of autonomy that Maldini is asking for is earned and not just given.

I feel our experience giving our ex-players coaching roles based on minimal experience should be proof enough how much times have changed and you need specialists.

EDIT: Just read Sabatini has resigned with immediate effect. Can we get him in please? I mean, I find it hard to believe Mirabelli is better than Sabatini.

Man, what a miss from us. I honestly think Fassone didn't even consider him, because if he had he would have known the situation at Roma was tenuous at best and would have pounced on it. Mirabelli is such an odd pick. I hope it's the best decision for us and he works out well for us

QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Oct 7 2016, 10:15 AM) *
Don't disagree, but IMHO there are better options out there. One of my biggest complaints about Galliani's recent strategy is continuing to bring in "have been" players with declining ability and questionable motivation, and I fear that what we would be getting with Fabregas. While we do need someone with experience, we also need someone with energy and the right spirit.

We're going to have to thread careful for now, at least until we establish ourselves as a CL team again. It's not going to be easy attracting top players instantly so at certain points we'll have to settle. But I don't think Fabregas is a big compromise. He's a great player and would elevate out midfield to the next level
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post Oct 8 2016, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 7 2016, 06:02 PM) *
We're going to have to thread careful for now, at least until we establish ourselves as a CL team again. It's not going to be easy attracting top players instantly so at certain points we'll have to settle. But I don't think Fabregas is a big compromise. He's a great player and would elevate out midfield to the next level

Agreed. Fabregas is still class, he just plays for a team that's been struggling for nearly 18 months or so now. Our midfield has lots of effort, but lacks a little in quality and he would change that.
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post Oct 8 2016, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 8 2016, 01:30 PM) *
Agreed. Fabregas is still class, he just plays for a team that's been struggling for nearly 18 months or so now. Our midfield has lots of effort, but lacks a little in quality and he would change that.

I hope you are all right about this (assuming we even get him). It is clear we need someone of quality.

On other news, Thiago Silva is in the news telling everyone how much he loves Milano. Would love to get him back ...
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post Oct 8 2016, 03:10 PM
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Fabregas in January and Thiago in June, please.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 8 2016, 03:10 PM) *
Fabregas in January and Thiago in June, please.

How about if we have the cash we try to force a move for both in January? I'd really like to see serious intent from the new owners and good moves from Mirabelli

A lot of Italian papers also linking us to Tielemens because Mirabelli likes him a lot and wanted him at Inter as well. He'd be a great add for the future.

Still think we need a proper box-to-box mid as well

Also. What do you guys think of trying to get Depay on loan with an option? I think he'd be an improvement on Suso with very little risk taken
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post Oct 8 2016, 06:24 PM
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Yeah, I'd feel we would become favorites for a champions league spot if that happens.

I have no idea about Tielemens, but another young talent..sign me up. Given we land a proven midfielder too.

I like the idea of taking Depay!
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post Oct 9 2016, 01:44 PM
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No Depay for me. I don't see why we should give up on Suso who's been steadily improving. It's the kind of patience that is paying off with Niang. I'm sure by next Season Suso will be even more of a beast.

I hear though of a link to another striker called Isak. Also rated by Mirabelli a lot. Interestingly, no Italian names being taken.
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Oct 9 2016, 01:44 PM) *
No Depay for me. I don't see why we should give up on Suso who's been steadily improving. It's the kind of patience that is paying off with Niang. I'm sure by next Season Suso will be even more of a beast.

I hear though of a link to another striker called Isak. Also rated by Mirabelli a lot. Interestingly, no Italian names being taken.

Really? Suso a beast? He's the opposite of a beast, he's not exceptionally fast, he's not physically imposing and he generally doesn't provide much in terms of creativity either.

And honestly I don't see much improvement either. If we want to do well, eventually we'll have to replace both Niang and Suso. But Niang does better because he IS actually a beast. He's quick and can bulldoze his way through, no matter how clumsy he is
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A huge no to Depay. I've not seen much of him in Holland, but from his time in England: Lazy, bad attitude, huge ego, lack of quality. Not particularly things I want here.
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Corriere dello Sport:
Montella wants Cesc Fabregas at AC Milan in january.

Allegri still wants De Sciglio in Juve according to TuttoSport.

Fabrizio Romano: Milan are among teams interested in the 17-year-old Swedish striker Alexander Isak. Juventus and PSG are also interested. AIK want more than €10m for the player.


Btw shouldnt we open a Winter Transfers topic ?
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 9 2016, 09:24 PM) *
Really? Suso a beast? He's the opposite of a beast, he's not exceptionally fast, he's not physically imposing and he generally doesn't provide much in terms of creativity either.

And honestly I don't see much improvement either. If we want to do well, eventually we'll have to replace both Niang and Suso. But Niang does better because he IS actually a beast. He's quick and can bulldoze his way through, no matter how clumsy he is


I hear you. But do a simple contrast between Niang last season and Niang this season. I see a simple parallel. One season at Genoa. Second season at Milan, where player shows huge improvement, but is clearly not a finished product. Third season, huge improvements and becomes a critical cog.

I mean, this is just contradicting our whole home-grown, youth yada yada nonsense, if we buy talented players for cheap and then refuse to play them saying they're not good enough-what's the point. In the end players need time to play within the team consistently to show progress and get better. If we say play the youth, and then consider only players who are Kaka and Donnarumma level right from the get-go it doesn't work.

Right now all of us think Pierre Aubameyang was a great player who we could have held onto. But he took 6 years to reach where he did. 6 years of consistent game time playing around 20+ games a season.

Suso is being shown a lot of confidence by Montella. In fact the Milan youth are being shown a lot of confidence by Montella. More than anything else, this is what I've liked the most about the new coach. Let it continue. We have to build a new generation team and I think in two or three years we'll end up with a solid side. Short terms results will be average though. But it's fine. At least there's progress.
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