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Fillipo Simone
post Feb 10 2015, 10:15 PM
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New transfer thread here. Hopefully a different summer for us.
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post Feb 11 2015, 12:14 AM
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Baselli will be the first arrival in June. That was sealed today I believe.
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post Feb 11 2015, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Feb 11 2015, 02:14 AM) *
Baselli will be the first arrival in June. That was sealed today I believe.


Yep, seems like he's very excited to join us. No idea why.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Fillipo Simone
post Feb 11 2015, 10:59 AM
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So, I'm usually detesting those "get rid of..." lists, but now I'm interested. Do you guys think we need a complete overhaul? Who would you let go or sell coming next season?
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post Feb 11 2015, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 11 2015, 12:59 PM) *
So, I'm usually detesting those "get rid of..." lists, but now I'm interested. Do you guys think we need a complete overhaul? Who would you let go or sell coming next season?


I'd get rid of:

INZAGHI
Abbiati
Mexes
Zapata
Zaccardo
Albertazzi
Armero
Muntari
Honda and
Pazzini

And I'd try to build the team around:
A coach like Spalleti
Diego Lopez
Abate
Alex
De Sciglio
De Jong (if he extends his contract with us)
Bonaventura
Van Ginkel (if by some miracle we sign him permanently)
Mastour
Destro
Menez and/or El Shaarawy (I still think that with the proper coaching he can become world class player).

And then there are players that I'd be pleased to have as backups, such as:
Gabriel/Agazzi
Rami/Zabaletta/Bochetti
Antonelli
Montolivo/Poli/Suso
Cerci/Niang.

But probably we're going to stick with the players that I would like to get rid of, sell/let go two or three players from those that we should be builinding our team around of to balance the finances and use the players from the third list as first team players. Which means that we're going to contuniue sucking bad until we find somehow players like Nesta, Maldini, Pirlo, Seedorf, Kaka and Sheva. But I don't see that happening, actually I don't think players like them exist anymore.

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post Feb 11 2015, 02:10 PM
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Agree with a lot of that post. Not all, but a lot.
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post Feb 11 2015, 03:20 PM
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Let's see... We currently have 31 players in our roster. Next season this number shouldn't exceed 25. Given our current players and requirements, this is how I'd go about it:

OUT
Muntari
Mexes
Honda
Albertazzi
Essien
Bocchetti
Van Ginkel
Bonera
Armero
Zaccardo

That leaves us with 21 players. We desperately need one quality CB to couple with Alex and one playmaker CM. Depending on what formation we play, our priorities might change, but I'd like to see something like this:

Lopez
Abate - Alex - CB - MDS
CM - NDJ
Cerci - Suso - Menez
Destro


SUBS
Abbiati
Agazzi
Zapata
Paletta
Rami
Antonelli
Poli
Montolivo
Bonaventura
El Shaarawy
Mastour
Pazzini
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post Feb 11 2015, 10:01 PM
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Hmh, I must say, I disagree with many things. Let's see:

1) Abate and de Jong. It's still questionable is the two will sign for us or go away for free. Abate is especially important, since he's a Primavera player.

2) Players who are too good to sit on the bench/probably wouldn't agree with the bench position but are somehow inadequate or not good enough for our first XI.

3) Players who are either sub-par or simply too old/useless.

All in all this would mean parting was with:

Agazzi (we need a younger 3rd string keeper)
Mexs
Rami
Zapata
Zaccardo
Essien
Muntari
van Ginkel (obviously)
Armero

Also questionable would be Pazzini, SES, Monto, Bonera and Cerci. For different reasons.

I'd keep Bonera as a versatile backup option which would be cheap and better then all other alternations (just think of the various backups we had in recent years, all the Mesbahs and Constants).

Pazzini will be out of contract and will most probably leave. If he takes a wage-cut and accepts a backup role, I'd let him stay (I think he's finally coming back to a routine).

SES should really get another chance with a more seasoned coach. Experience could guide him through this rough period. But if he fails to gradually become what is expected out of him, I'd rather sell him sooner then later.

Montolivo is a big question for me. He's not getting any younger and I seriously doubt his contribution to our gameplan is that important. But, I'd still give him the benefit of a doubt and one more season. Then we should decide.

Cerci showed so far very little to nothing. He seems out of shape and not really into being at a club like Milan. I suppose he's the ideal Parma/Bologna/Torino type of player, kind of Beppe Signori or Enrico Chiesa.

Next question: has anyone a list of the top players who'll be out of contract this summer? I think this should be a start for us.
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post Feb 12 2015, 06:02 AM
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Don't think we have any business referring to potential incoming players as top class. Top class players want CL football, want to win trophies and want heavy salary outlays.

For the second year running we are a midtable team. The club's history and name no-longer attracts top players.

That said, think our team is descent enough to challenge for an EL birth. The coach needs time and he should be given that time.

As for the summer transfer window; nothing exciting is going to happen. Just a bunch of nobodies leaving and a bunch of nobodies incoming.
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post Feb 12 2015, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 12 2015, 05:02 AM) *
The coach needs time and he should be given that time.


Nice troll.
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post Feb 12 2015, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 12 2015, 08:02 AM) *
Don't think we have any business referring to potential incoming players as top class. Top class players want CL football, want to win trophies and want heavy salary outlays.

Surely, I meant top players out of the players who's contract is running out. Per se those players ain't top class. I meant players like Menez and Alex, nice additions.

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For the second year running we are a midtable team. The club's history and name no-longer attracts top players.

So nothing has to change or what? How do you think we got to this situation?


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post Feb 12 2015, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Feb 12 2015, 12:51 PM) *
Nice troll.

Oh come on, let's talk normal.
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post Feb 12 2015, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 12 2015, 11:41 AM) *
Oh come on, let's talk normal.


I was. Anyone Milan fan who thinks Pippo needs and should be given time is clearly trolling given apparently 8 months wasn't enough already.
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post Feb 12 2015, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Feb 12 2015, 06:03 PM) *
I was. Anyone Milan fan who thinks Pippo needs and should be given time is clearly trolling given apparently 8 months wasn't enough already.

But I think R7 was referring to the next season. For the new coach, no?

Anyhow, different opinions is what makes a forum interesting. We should respect and encourage such posting, because otherwise this forum will (already has to an extent) turn into a numb and grey place with dominant opinions.
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post Feb 12 2015, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Feb 12 2015, 05:03 PM) *
I was. Anyone Milan fan who thinks Pippo needs and should be given time is clearly trolling given apparently 8 months wasn't enough already.

Agreed. If there was some indication that Pippo has a clue or that he is learning from his mistakes, I would be inclined to give him more time. But I have not seen that. We need a real coach, we really do.

So EL is the best we should hope for now. Really?
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