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Fillipo Simone
post Aug 13 2019, 09:43 AM
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No we haven't. You were the one who counted him in when you were telling me that I'm exaggerating unnecessarily.
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post Aug 13 2019, 10:22 AM
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I was talking in case we signed Correa.

Why do you feel the need to make things up.
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post Aug 13 2019, 11:04 PM
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What am I making up? I said there will be a problem in our attack because everything is depending on Piatek and all (present) alternatives are unreliable. You said I'm exaggerating. Now you state that Piatek didn't score a single goal in a few games and suggest this could be a problem. What's made up?
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post Aug 14 2019, 10:29 PM
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Because me saying we're fine in attack was supposing we'd sign Correa (or any other striker for that matter). We'd have Piatek, Correa, Leao and Borini (Silva and Castielljo on their way out). Four strikers for two positions. Very logical.

So, I don't see how the fact that Piatek has not been performing in this pre season has anything to do with that.
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post Aug 15 2019, 03:38 AM
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I think we can all agree that we still need someone else upfront, preferably someone that can play as a SS.

Though I fear we may be stuck with Silva and Castielljo, nobody seems interested in getting them, and I do not believe we will sell below what we paid (any minusvalenza would hurt us with FFP), nor will we accept loans. Same with Laxalt, Strinic, RR, and Hakan. OTOH, we appear to be holding on to Suso and Kessie (that or we are claiming we want to keep them so that we do not look too desperate to sell them). As for Borini, I get the feeling we are keeping him due to his ability to play a number of different positions.
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post Aug 15 2019, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 15 2019, 12:29 AM) *
Because me saying we're fine in attack was supposing we'd sign Correa (or any other striker for that matter). We'd have Piatek, Correa, Leao and Borini (Silva and Castielljo on their way out). Four strikers for two positions. Very logical.

So, I don't see how the fact that Piatek has not been performing in this pre season has anything to do with that.

It isn't a matter of logic or counting for that part, it's just that you have the right to push the alarm bottom when you think it's appropriate but when I do it you're playing cool.

Anyway, Correa wasn't signed. Giampaolo's system thrives on a good AM and a prolific striker. Look what a experienced Quagliarella achieved. Now we put all our eggs in one basket with Piatek, even if we somehow end up with Correa. Look at his stats: 20 in 130 (okay, mostly as a right wing/mid). I think he's a good SS but not the main finisher. And if Piatek gets injured or out of form (which he is now) we have a veteran and a kid to cover him, whose goal ratio is 1 in every 4th or 5th match.

All I'm saying is Giampolo likes strikers and if Milan puts everything on Piatek without any other viable option on deck we won't be getting far.
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QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Aug 15 2019, 03:38 AM) *
I think we can all agree that we still need someone else upfront, preferably someone that can play as a SS.

Though I fear we may be stuck with Silva and Castielljo, nobody seems interested in getting them, and I do not believe we will sell below what we paid (any minusvalenza would hurt us with FFP), nor will we accept loans. Same with Laxalt, Strinic, RR, and Hakan. OTOH, we appear to be holding on to Suso and Kessie (that or we are claiming we want to keep them so that we do not look too desperate to sell them). As for Borini, I get the feeling we are keeping him due to his ability to play a number of different positions.


Castillejo was a moronic signing. 25M for a player nobody really rated. His value now is 20M in our books, so selling him for any amount inferior to that would generate a loss. Obviously nobody is interested.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 15 2019, 08:54 AM) *
It isn't a matter of logic or counting for that part, it's just that you have the right to push the alarm bottom when you think it's appropriate but when I do it you're playing cool.

Anyway, Correa wasn't signed. Giampaolo's system thrives on a good AM and a prolific striker. Look what a experienced Quagliarella achieved. Now we put all our eggs in one basket with Piatek, even if we somehow end up with Correa. Look at his stats: 20 in 130 (okay, mostly as a right wing/mid). I think he's a good SS but not the main finisher. And if Piatek gets injured or out of form (which he is now) we have a veteran and a kid to cover him, whose goal ratio is 1 in every 4th or 5th match.

All I'm saying is Giampolo likes strikers and if Milan puts everything on Piatek without any other viable option on deck we won't be getting far.


But that’s the club we are right now. We take gambles. I already said this before, because we can’t afford sure-fire players. Guys like Piatek, Leao and Correa are the best options. They’re all talented and highly rated. If they end up sucking then we’ll just have to deal with it.
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post Aug 15 2019, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 15 2019, 01:10 PM) *
Castillejo was a moronic signing. 25M for a player nobody really rated. His value now is 20M in our books, so selling him for any amount inferior to that would generate a loss. Obviously nobody is interested.

Yup, same story with Silva

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 15 2019, 01:10 PM) *
But that’s the club we are right now. We take gambles. I already said this before, because we can’t afford sure-fire players. Guys like Piatek, Leao and Correa are the best options. They’re all talented and highly rated. If they end up sucking then we’ll just have to deal with it.

Worth mentioning that our last "sure signings" where Bonucci and Higuain. And one could argue that "the next Ronaldo" was also hyped as a "sure signing" when M&F got him. Bottom line, our only viable option right now is to "take gambles".
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post Aug 15 2019, 04:51 PM
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Taking gambles is one thing, having a coach that deploys a special way of play/system and not being able to provide the necessary players is another. IMO we need a good trequartista, very good SS and a reliable backup striker, perhaps a veteran or at least someone with experience.
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post Aug 15 2019, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 15 2019, 05:51 PM) *
Taking gambles is one thing, having a coach that deploys a special way of play/system and not being able to provide the necessary players is another. IMO we need a good trequartista, very good SS and a reliable backup striker, perhaps a veteran or at least someone with experience.

No disagreement with any of this. I believe something is moving in the background (news sources are clueless but I do not believe M&B are idle), and the mercato is not over ... yet. While I think all of us would prefer to have the team wrapped up before training gets started, opportunities do tend to open up towards the end (remember, the days of the condor :-)). Who knows, maybe we will get Modric after all (fresh new rumors in the last couple of days) and Correa or maybe someone else that can actually score goals. No need to panic ... yet.
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Well, we’re opting for Suso as trequartista, while pursuing Correa for that SS spot (who can also play as trequartista), all while having both Paqueta and Hakan who can play there, Leao as back-up striker (for whom we spent 30M). I mean, assuming we sign Correa, we’re pretty much covered in all areas for Giampaolo’s 4-3-1-2.

Maybe it’s not congruent with your ideas, but then again, he’s the coach and he knows better than all of us.

The only position I am worried about is that RCM, as I don’t trust Kessie at all.
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post Aug 15 2019, 08:39 PM
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But you trust Bennacer and Krunić? I'm worried about more positions then just one.

Also, what has the coach to do with all this? It's a business decision to start the season with just one pure striker. I get it, it's probably a risk worth taking, but still...
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 15 2019, 08:39 PM) *
But you trust Bennacer and Krunić? I'm worried about more positions then just one.

Also, what has the coach to do with all this? It's a business decision to start the season with just one pure striker. I get it, it's probably a risk worth taking, but still...


I think Bennacer is one of the best signings we've made in the last few years.

Also, Leao's main position is CF (https://www.transfermarkt.com/rafael-leao/profil/spieler/357164).
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post Aug 15 2019, 10:05 PM
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Based on?
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Based on my own research.
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