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 Oct 26 2013, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE (Linkman @ Oct 26 2013, 12:28 AM)  I have a firm opinion that Seedorf at his 50 or 60%, four years ago, is miles better than most midfielders in Italy right now. Yes, that includes Montolivo. Seedorf at 100% was pure footballing genius, a legend. Seedorf at 50% was simply a lazy player who at times hindered the team rather then helped it |
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Oct 26 2013, 09:49 AM
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Smoking Bianco  Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (Linkman @ Oct 26 2013, 03:28 AM) I have a firm opinion that Seedorf at his 50 or 60%, four years ago, is miles better than most midfielders in Italy right now. Yes, that includes Montolivo. Agreed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) |
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Oct 26 2013, 10:22 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,627 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 26 2013, 09:49 AM) Agreed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) Absolutely shocked!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Oct 26 2013, 01:09 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,836 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 26 2013, 12:22 PM) Absolutely shocked!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Yeah, unbelievable! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) |
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Oct 26 2013, 03:30 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,627 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 26 2013, 01:09 PM) Yeah, unbelievable! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Yeah, I was like (IMG:http://images.wikia.com/friends/images/d/da/Shocked.gif) (IMG:http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx68/skyfallen_meli/Gifs/Shocked.gif) (IMG:http://media.tumblr.com/2313a5de74c35c164bae51172246b419/tumblr_inline_mlbikjmcwb1qz4rgp.gif) When I read that |
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Oct 26 2013, 03:41 PM
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Esordienti A 95 Group: Full Members Posts: 976 Joined: 14-March 10 From: Brasil/Chile Member No.: 7,300 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 26 2013, 06:20 AM) Seedorf at 100% was pure footballing genius, a legend. Seedorf at 50% was simply a lazy player who at times hindered the team rather then helped it The thing is, I still think Seedorf is good. I watch him regularly at Botafogo. It was time to let him go from Milan, yes, because physically he wasn't cutting it anymore, but his vision, passing and sense of pace are still amazing. But I can agree to disagree... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Oct 26 2013, 04:35 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,627 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (Linkman @ Oct 26 2013, 03:41 PM) The thing is, I still think Seedorf is good. I watch him regularly at Botafogo. It was time to let him go from Milan, yes, because physically he wasn't cutting it anymore, but his vision, passing and sense of pace are still amazing. But I can agree to disagree... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Well I don't think you can compare how he does in one league to another and use it as evidence. Especially when comparing Serie A to the Brazilian league, where it is simply a level lower, especially in terms of defence which is why Seedorf was able to make such an impact at his age, the same could be said for Dinho, as both have amazing technique, vision, etc but have deteriorated physically to a point where they can no longer be as effective with a top club where the physical demands are so higher |
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Oct 26 2013, 04:44 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
Yet, I've seen Montolivo doing the same season after season, with Fiorentina, with us - playing 1 good game and a bunch of very absent ones, with less effort and less heart.
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Oct 26 2013, 05:44 PM
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Esordienti A 95 Group: Full Members Posts: 976 Joined: 14-March 10 From: Brasil/Chile Member No.: 7,300 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 26 2013, 01:35 PM) Well I don't think you can compare how he does in one league to another and use it as evidence. Especially when comparing Serie A to the Brazilian league, where it is simply a level lower, especially in terms of defence which is why Seedorf was able to make such an impact at his age, the same could be said for Dinho, as both have amazing technique, vision, etc but have deteriorated physically to a point where they can no longer be as effective with a top club where the physical demands are so higher I agree, he indeed can't cut it physically for Serie A today. But four years ago, under Leo, he was still good enough to be one of the best, even at his 50-60%. That's what I meant. |
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Oct 26 2013, 05:54 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,836 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 26 2013, 06:44 PM) Yet, I've seen Montolivo doing the same season after season, with Fiorentina, with us - playing 1 good game and a bunch of very absent ones, with less effort and less heart. I haven't seen that. I think Monto always puts his 100% in every game. Sometimes he might be good, sometimes not. |
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