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Posted by: X-Offender Apr 11 2016, 10:52 PM

Miha's firing is imminent, says Mediaset, with Brocchi considered by Silvio as the perfect person to coach the team next season.

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/calcio/milan-cena-ad-arcore-tra-berlusconi-e-brocchi_1094188-201602a.shtml

I can't believe we're making the same mistake again. After Leonardo, Allegri, Seedorf, Inzaghi and Miha, now Brocchi. No Lippi as "tutor" either, just Christian fucking Brocchi! Wha...

I'm not Miha's biggest fan, but he's the least person to blame with the shitty players he has at disposal. Galliani with his garbage signings and Berlu with his even more garbage appointments are the real culprits. F*ck them. Seriously f*ck them.

Posted by: maldini03 Apr 12 2016, 02:41 AM

Yeah I'd say this was a bad decision, let the guy finish the season. At the end of the year you evaluate everything he has been able to produce and make a choice.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 12 2016, 06:01 AM

Yeah seems pretty dumb to do so when we truly have nothing to play for except the Coppa Italia. It might actually end up being a step backwards.

I hope these are unfounded rumours or they're just discussing it for next season. However because it's mediaset I'm a bit worried it might be true. sad.gif

Posted by: Ry4n Apr 12 2016, 10:38 AM

http://www.football-italia.net/82702/official-milan-sack-mihajlovic

what a clown management we have im talking Galliani and co. Same mistakes same bullshittery.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 12 2016, 01:40 PM

What the actual f@ck just happened? Makes no sense at all. What's any coach supposed to do in six days?

Apparently even Galliani was against firing him, so looks like this was all on Silvio.

The only good thing is Brocchi has been appointed only till the end of season and not given another 3 year contract.

Because I think we just got Seedorf and Pippo off the salary books.

I really want to listen to the press conference on this one. I'd love to hear the 'explanation'.

Posted by: Ry4n Apr 12 2016, 01:45 PM

'Brocchi-Milan for many years'

By Football Italia staff

Cristian Brocchi's agent believes he can be Milan's Coach not just for six weeks but 'for many years'.

The former youth Coach was appointed today to replace Sinisa Mihajlovic. It remains to be seen whether he'll handle the team for anything more than the remaining six games of the season, but his agent is confident he'll have a longer spell.

“I'm very happy for Cristian, who was given this important opportunity,” his agent Davide Lippi told Calciomercato.it. “After several years with the youth squad, I think he's ready for the next step.

“When President [Silvio] Berlusconi calls you to Coach Milan, you can do nothing but accept enthusiastically, the way that Brocchi did.

“He is a great professional, he is ready, and he is an indefatigable worker. He is just the way he was as a player.

“I'm sure he'll be able to work as a Coach for many years. At 2:30pm [GMT] I'll be with him at Milanello, where he will begin this new adventure.

“As for his contractual terms, we'll discuss them in the Press conference.”

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Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 12 2016, 01:50 PM

I don't really think it's Brocchi's fault. No one is going to say no to a coaching job at Milan. I'm not even saying he will be a flop (just yet).

I just don't see the point of doing it now. Even the players came out in support of Miha. Is it a Silvio loyalist vs Miha loyalist kind of situation in the camp?

Anyway the press conference is happening now. Expect the same old nonsense of working hard for the shirt and not forgetting we are Milan and about humility and sacrifice.

I just want to know why Miha was fired. At least the official line.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 12 2016, 03:21 PM

What the actual F@CK??

Seriously?? You fire Miha who's no tactical mastermind but is at least a decent coach with a few years coaching experience in the league and you hire Brocchi out of the Primavera with no real experience. This is the Pippo/Seedorf situation all over again. And Brocchi doesn't even have any status as a big player himself to fall back on. This will most likely cost us 6th and whatever slim chance we had in the Coppa FFS!!

I mean, this just shows what a bunch of senile old fools are running this joke of a club.

They better pray this goes marginally well and they better have someone decent to come in next season because this is inexcusable. The results aren't not coming because of the coach but because of the players Galliani keeps saddling us with

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 12 2016, 04:22 PM

the only things that makes sense is that we check broochi for 6 weeks and then we can asses him and make a decision over seummer. But i think we are going no where overall

Posted by: Ry4n Apr 12 2016, 05:15 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 12 2016, 07:21 PM) *
What the actual F@CK??

Seriously?? You fire Miha who's no tactical mastermind but is at least a decent coach with a few years coaching experience in the league and you hire Brocchi out of the Primavera with no real experience. This is the Pippo/Seedorf situation all over again. And Brocchi doesn't even have any status as a big player himself to fall back on. This will most likely cost us 6th and whatever slim chance we had in the Coppa FFS!!

I mean, this just shows what a bunch of senile old fools are running this joke of a club.

They better pray this goes marginally well and they better have someone decent to come in next season because this is inexcusable. The results aren't not coming because of the coach but because of the players Galliani keeps saddling us with

its an easy option i think for the higher up for them to just say when and if he doesnt succeed " Hey guys he had no exp and we gave it a try blah blah in the end he gets the boot and its cheap and cheerful..

horrible management strikes again.

I can see us handing him a contract right now and keeping him until **** hits the fan and round in circles we go...

I wish Brocchi well !
but i wish we had more exp and did not fire Mila...

Posted by: han2503 Apr 12 2016, 07:31 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Apr 12 2016, 04:22 PM) *
the only things that makes sense is that we check broochi for 6 weeks and then we can asses him and make a decision over seummer. But i think we are going no where overall

I hardly think 6 weeks is a long enough time to determine if Brocchi is even a viable option. If we hire him again next season we'll see a season similar to the one under Pippo imo, this management will never learn

QUOTE (Ry4n @ Apr 12 2016, 05:15 PM) *
its an easy option i think for the higher up for them to just say when and if he doesnt succeed " Hey guys he had no exp and we gave it a try blah blah in the end he gets the boot and its cheap and cheerful..

horrible management strikes again.

I can see us handing him a contract right now and keeping him until **** hits the fan and round in circles we go...

I wish Brocchi well !
but i wish we had more exp and did not fire Mila...

I wouldn't call it cheap or cheerful though considering we've given all these coaches 2 year contracts and end up paying their wages for the entirety of that duration because we sack them

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 12 2016, 09:24 PM

From what I hear Brocchi is just a temporary solution.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 12 2016, 09:39 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 12 2016, 09:24 PM) *
From what I hear Brocchi is just a temporary solution.

Let's hope that's true

However, with the way our management does things I wouldn't be shocked if they give him a longer deal if he managed to do half decently in these last few weeks.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 12 2016, 09:45 PM

btw

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Premium Sport says Berlusconi was ready to give Brocchi a 2 year contract, but Galliani stopped that instead opting for a 2 month deal and then a renewal if things go well.


Unbelievable.

Never learns from past mistakes. At least Galliani managed to show an iota of restraint rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 12 2016, 10:42 PM

This is shocking news indeed!

I really did like the way the team started to come together under Miha. An essence we really needed since Carlo's days. Berlusconi decided and that is the end of it, as crazymilanfan commented above, if anything it is to give Broochi a head start or a 'trial' ahead of next season.

Otherwise, it just does not make any sense. Maybe if Miha takes up the Lazio job, it could mean the situation was all prearranged for Miha to get a head start at Lazio as well. This considering he was already feeling under threat for potentially not achieving Europe.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 13 2016, 08:27 AM

Lazio will be a good destination for Mihaijlovic.

Just disappointing how we've become a circus. The names being bandied about now for next season are: EDF, Lippi, Emery and Donadoni.

What's the actual point? Silvio will fire unless they play the kind of football he wants. And with our current team we go back to Mourinho's old comment about eggs and omelettes.

Already Brocchi seems to be a yes-man. In training he tried out a 4-3-1-2 with Bonaventura as trequartista. You know the same formation we used and got smashed? Except this time we have Balotelli.

Pfft... rolleyes.gif

Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 13 2016, 10:46 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 12 2016, 04:21 PM) *
What the actual F@CK??

Seriously?? You fire Miha who's no tactical mastermind but is at least a decent coach with a few years coaching experience in the league and you hire Brocchi out of the Primavera with no real experience.

Same as always. The man at the top has an ego. Brocchi sucks? It's his fault for being a bad coach. Brocchi's great? Who's the genius who gave him the platform to succeed? Silvio!

Posted by: han2503 Apr 13 2016, 04:20 PM

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 13 2016, 10:46 AM) *
Same as always. The man at the top has an ego. Brocchi sucks? It's his fault for being a bad coach. Brocchi's great? Who's the genius who gave him the platform to succeed? Silvio!

All the experimenting to find the next Cappello/Sacchi has very obviously failed. He needs to get off it and hire a good coach

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 13 2016, 04:36 PM

Indeed.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 13 2016, 07:14 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 13 2016, 04:36 PM) *
Indeed.

You know what really p!sses me off? Is that I feel like there's an internal tug of war between Berlu and Galliani, a competition of trying to find then next big thing in coaching. It's like they're playing a strange little round of "X-Factor Coaching Edition" and having a little chuckle between themselves.

This all started with Leo, Berlo picked him, so Galliani tried to undermine him at every turn, Galliani picked Allegri so Berlu never missed an occasion to throw jabs his way and wanted to fire him multiple times with Galliani always convincing him otherwise for some reason or other, then it was Seedorf who Silvio picked and it was no secret that Galliani wanted Pippo and wanted Seedorf out ASAP. Especially since Seedorf is not one to lay down and take whatever sh!t is shoved his way. Then Pippo came and Silvio constantly belittled him in the media, and same thing happened with Miha who imo was more Galliani's pick than Silvio's. Now Silvio has picked Brocchi with Galliani already coming in and stopping a longer deal from happening.

It's just an endless, cycle. We haven't had a stable and good coach since Carlo if you really think about it and it's a major factor for our huge downfall imo

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 13 2016, 07:31 PM

Agreed. But let's face it, Mihajlović was already gone. I think it's positive that we appointed Brocchi now. At least that way we can tell if his ideas work and if he has it in him. Surely by losing 6th and/or the Coppa he'll be gone by then and we'll be searching a new victim.

At the moment just everything is wrong with Milan. The most important thing would be a change of management. Since all buyout rumors died off, I think we're stuck with this cycles going on and on.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 13 2016, 07:59 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 13 2016, 07:31 PM) *
Agreed. But let's face it, Mihajlović was already gone. I think it's positive that we appointed Brocchi now. At least that way we can tell if his ideas work and if he has it in him. Surely by losing 6th and/or the Coppa he'll be gone by then and we'll be searching a new victim.

At the moment just everything is wrong with Milan. The most important thing would be a change of management. Since all buyout rumors died off, I think we're stuck with this cycles going on and on.

I disagree about it being a good thing.

The smart thing to do would have been to continue on with Miha until the end of the season and then re-assess. This rotating door of coaches is why we have no stability in the team.

Brocchi won't do miracles, and imo he's at an even bigger disadvantage than Miha as Miha still had the dressing room behind him and none of the players wanted him to go.

Also, 6 weeks really won't tell us anything about Brocchi's managerial abilities or lack-there-of. If he does half decently in these few weeks and gets a long term contract I can assure you that we'd see him struggle trying to get through an entire season and all the permutations that brings with it unlike taking over a few weeks when the season is basically already done and dusted.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 13 2016, 08:32 PM

I think there was nothing to re-asses in the first place. Mihajlović clearly lost his support by the management and the links with Lazio were heavy. Him leaving Milan at season end was a sure thing. Could that been avoided? Perhaps. But that's another story.

Posted by: maldini03 Apr 13 2016, 11:15 PM

At this point, if what han said is true about them playing a game to find the next Cappello/Sacchi, then I hope they find it sooner rather than later. If this really is the case, and it appears that it is, then I'm hoping Brochi is special and he brings along the young players and we become competitive again. Otherwise next season we start again from the ground.

Posted by: Forza Milan! Apr 14 2016, 06:14 AM

Two old men playing silly power-games. Games, because I do not see the circus ending with the clown being sacked. Only way we get out of this is with Berlu selling the club and the new owner finding new management. And even then, there is no guarantee we will not end up with an even worse clown.

It was obvious Miha would not last (Berlu dropped enough hints). Miha is not a great coach, but I would have stuck with him to the end of the season. Not thrilled with Brocchi, but perhaps this way we may see some of our young players on the field (doubt it they will do much worse than the current lot, and we really have nothing left to play for - 6th place actually hurts us financially).

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 14 2016, 07:56 AM

I went through his press conference. He said all the right things, didn't use the word 'grit' fortunately. Because when an Italian coach uses that, it means the football is going to be boring.

What we need is a coach with a smart director of football. Galliani should henceforth do just one thing and that is player negotiation. Let the coach and the DoF find the players and let Galliani wear his golden tie and do the jig.

Not sure if Lippi is a good choice for DoF however. I think he is behind the curve footballing-wise.

Anyway, Miha is a closed chapter. Respect to the man, especially because he says he intends to find a new job ASAP and not hang around living off our paychecks.

So next season we are no longer paying for Zee or Pippo. Let's see how things go.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 14 2016, 05:06 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 13 2016, 08:32 PM) *
I think there was nothing to re-asses in the first place. Mihajlović clearly lost his support by the management and the links with Lazio were heavy. Him leaving Milan at season end was a sure thing. Could that been avoided? Perhaps. But that's another story.

Re-assess meaning see how he manages to finish the season and see if we can actually find someone better than him if his season performance is not what we think is up to the goals we set for ourselves

It's not about it being avoided it's about Silvio and Galliani not knowing wtf they're doing, and making impulsive decisions.

Brocchi imo is a step back for us. Like I said, the only reason that I would have sacked Miha is if we found someone better, and not someone who's worse and has no experience.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 14 2016, 05:14 PM

In essence I agree with you.

But I know what re-asses means. And Mihajlović was already gone, so there was nothing to reevalue. This gives us more possibilities: Brocchi was always in the game. If he fails miserably now, we'll be forced to find someone else for next season. If he makes things good/better, well...

Posted by: han2503 Apr 14 2016, 06:55 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 14 2016, 05:14 PM) *
In essence I agree with you.

But I know what re-asses means. And Mihajlović was already gone, so there was nothing to reevalue. This gives us more possibilities: Brocchi was always in the game. If he fails miserably now, we'll be forced to find someone else for next season. If he makes things good/better, well...

Huh, I get your point here, het rid of the bad option sooner rather than later... Smart thinking there, wasn't looking at it from that angle.

Still, with the Coppa and 6th still to play for it's a very risky move and imo we should have stuck it out with Miha, who after all has been instrumental to getting us at least this far

Posted by: maldini03 Apr 15 2016, 02:14 AM

Although I am against his sacking, I think he kind of got lucky. The team got hot after Niang came back and after he got injured again the wheels have fallen off. Things got stale and he didn't adjust. I blame this on the team not being among the best, but the coach must take some responsibility as well.

The team began to play well when we went with Donna; Abate,Alex, Romagnoli, Antonelli; Honda, Monto, Kucka, Bona: Niang, Bacca. We kept playing well as Berto absorbed some of the blow of Kucka, then we lost Monto and Niang and everything fell apart.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 15 2016, 10:12 AM

^^

Yes I agree with you. We weren't really going anywhere from a progress perspective once a few key players got hurt. We were probably going to be predictable soon.

In a way, now was the perfect time to hire Brocchi, to test him out. Because the remaining games of the season are actually a beautiful selection of games.


We have some easy ones, some moderate ones and then finally two big tests with Roma and Juve at the end. The immediate few games for any new coach are pretty easy to deal with.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2016, 05:30 PM

QUOTE (maldini03 @ Apr 15 2016, 02:14 AM) *
Although I am against his sacking, I think he kind of got lucky. The team got hot after Niang came back and after he got injured again the wheels have fallen off. Things got stale and he didn't adjust. I blame this on the team not being among the best, but the coach must take some responsibility as well.

The team began to play well when we went with Donna; Abate,Alex, Romagnoli, Antonelli; Honda, Monto, Kucka, Bona: Niang, Bacca. We kept playing well as Berto absorbed some of the blow of Kucka, then we lost Monto and Niang and everything fell apart.

I hardly think Niang is an integral cog in the team.

I do however agree that the slump in form coincided with Monto getting injured when he was finally starting to play really well again. Probably some of his best games since his first season with us.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 15 2016, 06:45 PM

Niang was integral not by quality but for what he could/could have done. Adriano is a pure striker, and didn't work in combination with Bacca. Menez is still not the old from last season, but he also is in a tactical sense very needy.

Niang offers hard work on the flank, he uses his space and isn't slow. I think SES would suit just fine in this spot, if he was ours. I hope we'll give him another shot.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 15 2016, 06:53 PM

Yeah exactly. So obviously instead of a Niang if it had been Suarez, we would have rocked. The thing is, I sort of see that we perhaps couldn't have progressed beyond a 6th place team, because there wasn't the innovation to bring out the best in these players. At the same time, I only worry about this constant instability.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 15 2016, 07:05 PM

Mentality. We picked up a loser mentality. No confidence, no healthy body language, no continuity. We need more leaders in our team, especially the midfield. And we need a true captain, someone who can lead by example.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 15 2016, 08:25 PM

Btw guys, what do you think about the new rumours of a Chinese group of investors buying a stake in the Club? Seems pretty advanced from what I've read...

I think Bee would have most likely been a total mess, so glad we managed to get out of that, and China really is where the money's at atm, so hopefully something finally goes well for us.

It's now been reported that our revenue has gone down and our expenses have gone up, which is perfectly expected as we're a club playing like a mid-table team while still spending like a top one

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 18 2016, 07:22 AM

We have too many players on the squad still. I'd like us to keep working on trimming that fat.

We also need to seriously look at sending a few players off on loans. Maybe like a 2 year loan or something, similar to what's happened with Berardi.

About the Chinese investors, let's see how it goes. I mean, Inter's takeover hasn't anywhere been as impactful as when the Arab investors took over PSG and City. Thohir is struggling for cash, and it's just been a couple of years.


The only thing here is the credibility of the middle man is way above that of Bee.

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