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post Oct 4 2020, 06:44 PM
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Hakan is majestic
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post Oct 4 2020, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Oct 4 2020, 06:43 PM) *
We switched on with hakan coming in

Completely changed our entire dynamic

Same goes with Kessie and Bennacer

We knew this would be rough. Apparently we fielded the youngest team in Serie A since 04/05. Overall, there needs to be improvement from some players, namely Tonali an Leao, I expect more. But they also need time. Bennacer was absolute pish last season in the first few months. These things take time, especially when the player is so young.
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post Oct 4 2020, 06:57 PM
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Alexis (that's what I will start kalling #56) he deserves his name to be spelled correctly, and since I can't do that, I'll call him by his first. He's been improving with each game. I think at this point Samu won't be seeing the pitch again anytime soon.
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post Oct 4 2020, 07:01 PM
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Finally got it done Milan-style.

Hakan changed the game, but I also think Pioli should have said a thing or two in the locker room at half time, cos the attitude was completely different in the second half.

Leao works way better as CF. He's tall and has a good physique. On the wing he thinks he's CR7 and can dribble the whole opponent team.

Anyway, another 3 points. 7 goals scored, 0 conceded. Top spot along with Atlanta, who have scored 13 goals in 3 games yes, but also have conceded 5. So the overall GD is 8-7 for them.

But we also shouldn't forget that we've played against 3 piss-poor opponents. Next match is the derby and that's going to be a whole other deal.

Hopefully we've recovered Zlatan, Rebic and Romagnoli, cos that will make a world of difference.
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post Oct 4 2020, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 4 2020, 06:57 PM) *
Alexis (that's what I will start kalling #56) he deserves his name to be spelled correctly, and since I can't do that, I'll call him by his first. He's been improving with each game. I think at this point Samu won't be seeing the pitch again anytime soon.


Totally agreed. I can't believe I was trashing him only a few weeks ago, but now he's winning me over game by game. I don't even mind him starting games anymore, cos he's becoming pretty good. And I love his attitude. He's running like a madman for 90 minutes, and he looks genuinely involved with the team. Kudos mate, really. When you deserve it, you deserve it.
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post Oct 4 2020, 07:15 PM
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Anyone following the whole Juve-Napoli mess? Juventus just arrived at the stadium, they even announced the official line-up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I wouldn't be surprised if they even make their way on the pitch. What a comedy.
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post Oct 4 2020, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 4 2020, 07:01 PM) *
Finally got it done Milan-style.

Hakan changed the game, but I also think Pioli should have said a thing or two in the locker room at half time, cos the attitude was completely different in the second half.

Leao works way better as CF. He's tall and has a good physique. On the wing he thinks he's CR7 and can dribble the whole opponent team.

Anyway, another 3 points. 7 goals scored, 0 conceded. Top spot along with Atlanta, who have scored 13 goals in 3 games yes, but also have conceded 5. So the overall GD is 8-7 for them.

But we also shouldn't forget that we've played against 3 piss-poor opponents. Next match is the derby and that's going to be a whole other deal.

Hopefully we've recovered Zlatan, Rebic and Romagnoli, cos that will make a world of difference.

You have to take into account that that was the second string side basically bar Kjaer, Theo and Calabria. It's always going to have an effect, especially when the players are so young. And we all expected this game to be a struggle due to circumstances going into it.

That being said, as soon as the first teamers came on, the change was instant, especially with Hakan.

Still p!ssed off at Leao's lackadaisical attitude, that is not waht I've come to expect from Pioli's Milan, everyone has to contribute in the pressing.

Hopefully we get all those 3 back against Inter and maybe the new CB as well.

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 4 2020, 07:04 PM) *
Totally agreed. I can't believe I was trashing him only a few weeks ago, but now he's winning me over game by game. I don't even mind him starting games anymore, cos he's becoming pretty good. And I love his attitude. He's running like a madman for 90 minutes, and he looks genuinely involved with the team. Kudos mate, really. When you deserve it, you deserve it.

Agreed totally. If he continues in this vein, not buying a RW will make a bit more sense for us

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Anyone following the whole Juve-Napoli mess? Juventus just arrived at the stadium, they even announced the official line-up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I wouldn't be surprised if they even make their way on the pitch. What a comedy.

They will, simply to get the forfeit
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post Oct 5 2020, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 4 2020, 09:31 PM) *
You have to take into account that that was the second string side basically bar Kjaer, Theo and Calabria. It's always going to have an effect, especially when the players are so young. And we all expected this game to be a struggle due to circumstances going into it.

That being said, as soon as the first teamers came on, the change was instant, especially with Hakan.

Still p!ssed off at Leao's lackadaisical attitude, that is not waht I've come to expect from Pioli's Milan, everyone has to contribute in the pressing.

Hopefully we get all those 3 back against Inter and maybe the new CB as well.


I agree with this. Leao I don't really know what to think about him. I think he enormous talent obviously, but he needs to work so much more I believe. You can see that he is kind of half-assing, depending a bit on his talent... In my humble opinion. Sala owned him pretty much the whole game.

I learned lots of things from this game:

Pioli has a formula that works, but it only works when exactly all the components are more or less there. We had the chance really to play Spezia who is a weak team so that we can experiment.

Bennacer and Kessie for me are untouchable in the must-win games. Tonali is very interesting and will be very useful as a rotational player at the moment.

Hakan was exceptional, he was moving all the chess pieces, I understanding benching him for rotational purposes, but he is crucial for this side, and he does seem to be giving that extra effort that he was lacking before.

In general, we were more or less solid defensively. But, on some occasions, the game was so slow and Donnaruma couldn't get the ball to anyone, this is where Hakan was useful.

I hope we get all of our players back for Inter, it will not be an easy game, but I don't see why we can't win it!

Forza Milan!




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post Oct 5 2020, 10:15 AM
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It is important that Milan got off on a good start, the team at current is decimated and can only get stronger with players coming back.

There is the risk that the team losses more players to the virus which will impact the consistency of this team in normal circumstances.

Let us be fair, Leao is not a first team starter, he has potential and is being used because the team has lost both Zlatan and Rebic. All negative comments I read here won't amount to anything as he ended up converting two chances to goals. His game play is the same, nothing changed, all he needs is maturity and will get there in time.

The current standings reveal a resorected Milan, but I feel Milan is no where near that. This team should push for a CL birth by season end, but I don't see it finishing above EL spots. So let's tone down the optimism, with all things considered.
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post Oct 6 2020, 02:32 PM
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I'm wondering...how would you guys line-up the attack? On paper, I would be happy with putting leao on the right. But my worry is that we wouldn't have an off the bench option. Nor could we use him to rotate with Ibra as they would exhaust him. I think I would go with;

Diaz-Ibra- Rebic

Diaz would need to work on his end product. He seems to be highly skilled just a little raw when it comes to the final third. I hope with some game time, its something he can improve on this.

Also maybe with Dalot coming in using Sale wouldn't be as bad. Dalot is very good going forward and started his career as a RW. He could be used to go forward and Sale could be the one covering for him. I don't think its a bad situation to be honest. My biggest concern is with the defence as X-off said in the summer transfers thread. Both Kjaer and Romagnoli tend to get injuries. Its a possibility that we could potentially line up Gabbia and Mus (or worse Durate). Which would be awful. I'm also annoyed we didn't get a backup for kessie. I like Tonali and I actually don't mind Krunic. But we need a defensive minded midfielder to cover for Kessie and Bakayoko would of been perfect. I thought getting 20 mil for paqueta and getting EL would of helped :/

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post Oct 6 2020, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (nuh @ Oct 6 2020, 02:32 PM) *
I'm wondering...how would you guys line-up the attack?


Zlatan
Rebic - Hakan - Saele


Saelemaekers has earned his spot for the time being. But that can change with time. The right wing is our only position where we don't have a fixed starter, but many players can fight to earn a spot: Saelemaekers, Hauge and Brahim in primis.

A big no-no for Leao. He's not ready yet to be a starter, he's nerve-racking on the wing, and we need him as backup for Zlatan.

QUOTE (nuh @ Oct 6 2020, 02:32 PM) *
I thought getting 20 mil for paqueta and getting EL would of helped :/


Indeed. What a gyp it all it turned out to be. Almost 50M earned from the sales of Suso, Paqueta and Rodriguez, +15M from the EL, +30M from the budget, yet we didn't spend anything. Only 10M for Tonali's loan and 5M for Hauge. Clearly management is only concerned for clearing the books.
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post Oct 7 2020, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (nuh @ Oct 6 2020, 02:32 PM) *
I thought getting 20 mil for paqueta and getting EL would of helped :/


EL is only worth 3.5M at this point. Not exactly a lot. CL is where the real money is at.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 8 2020, 12:19 AM) *
EL is only worth 3.5M at this point. Not exactly a lot. CL is where the real money is at.


True that, but this is what is on offer at the moment. The same also provides additional income through sponsorships and merchandising as the club gets more exposure.

Also, I'd like to add that without actually having the clubs income/expenses on hand, we are not in a position to consider that an absolute figure that is available for use in the transfer market. As the club has lost a lot with closure of stadium hence no stadium receipts. While broadcasting have been renegotiated lower if I recall correctly.

These are important factors to consider.
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post Oct 8 2020, 11:39 AM
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I read from many sources that we gained 15M from qualifying to the group stage.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 8 2020, 11:39 AM) *
I read from many sources that we gained 15M from qualifying to the group stage.


Basic prize fund for all clubs who get to the group stage is 3.5M.

The only other source of income is TV rights, and that's split among all Italian clubs competing. So in this case, us, Roma and Napoli.

So Rai and Sky Sport who I think carry your Europa League coverage will pay each club a split. But it's nowhere near as high as CL.

So if that's 11M by your numbers, then the UEL is worth about 30-35M in Italy's TV rights.

Tbf that does sound about right.
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