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AC Milan - Milanfan.com _ Archive 07/08 _ 23/01/2008 - Serie A - Atalanta vs AC Milan
Posted by: redbabies Jan 20 2008, 05:14 PM
Serie A 2007/08
Wednesday, January 23, 2008
Stadium Atleti Azzuri d'Italia
Time : 20:30 CET
Posted by: redbabies Jan 20 2008, 05:18 PM
Let's climb the table 
Posted by: Darunia Jan 20 2008, 09:17 PM
I would give R9 a rest and go with Gila-Pato upfront, I'm really interested in seeing what they can do.
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 21 2008, 12:32 AM
i don't care who starts... as long as Roni gets his share and i see a good match! 
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 21 2008, 11:58 AM
lol if only we played 3 - 4 - 3
Pato , Ronaldo and Gilardino up front
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 21 2008, 12:36 PM
ok if Carlo is going to go with 2 forwards then that would mean Ambro will be benched 
?
Posted by: nuh Jan 21 2008, 12:37 PM
aaah i feel soo safe now i dont care who starts up front caz who ever it is i think they could score ronaldo-gila good pato-gila i think it would work out pato-ronaldo the best i feel safe
Posted by: KillerMax Jan 21 2008, 12:54 PM
Ancelotti loves Ambrosini too much to bench him. He thinks he was one of the key factors in winning the CL last year.
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 21 2008, 12:58 PM
you're not suggesting he will bench Pirlo, Gattuso or Seedorf... i think he will be benched just like last year when Roni was fit
Posted by: redbabies Jan 21 2008, 03:27 PM
Dont be suprised if Carlo fields only Gila upfront.
R99 needs rest and will probably be benched, while also Pato needs rest since he's too young to play every 3 days.
Even though I still believe that Gila-Pato will start.
Ambro is one of the 7 players that have played the most this season (acmilan.com - Minute by minue statistics)
And, wouldn't be a tragedy if he is benched (even for a longer period
)
Posted by: han2503 Jan 21 2008, 04:10 PM
R99 needs rest and will probably be benched, while also Pato needs rest since he's too young to play every 3 days.
Even though I still believe that Gila-Pato will start.
Hopefully he won't go back to the xams tree with Gila alone upfront. I'm sure Carlo has seen the error of his ways, since evey game we've started with 2 strikers we've won this season. And when we play with 2 strikers and 2 defensive mids we still struggle to score. I think thats indicator enough of which way Carlo should go with his formation
Oddo--Nesta--Kala--Favalli
--Gattuso--Pirlo--Seedorf--
------------Kaka-------------
---------Pato--Gila----------
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 21 2008, 04:47 PM
I, too, would like to see Pato-Gila upfront for this one. Ronaldo MUST be rested...
Posted by: gal_kenny Jan 21 2008, 04:56 PM
why is everyone saying Ronaldo needs a rest?
He's been the most dangerous striker for us the past two games..so why would we wanna bench him?
Posted by: han2503 Jan 21 2008, 04:58 PM
Yep, and I really want to see how Gila and Pato play together
He's been the most dangerous striker for us the past two games..so why would we wanna bench him?
Because Ronaldo can't handle 3 games in the span of 8 days. If we try to play him that much chances are he won't last a month without getting a serious injury.
Posted by: gal_kenny Jan 21 2008, 05:06 PM
Be he gatto keep playing if he's supposed to get in shape and be fit..And we both know when he's fit he's the most dangerously striker in the world..
Posted by: Minami Jan 21 2008, 05:15 PM
Me too
Pa-Ka-Gi - Fan
And Pirlo will play, too. So I hope it will be a more exciting game than the one yesterday!!
Posted by: dst Jan 21 2008, 05:39 PM
--Gattuso--Pirlo--Seedorf--
------------Kaka-------------
---------Pato--Gila----------
Favalli again? I don't think that would be wise.
He's been the most dangerous striker for us the past two games..so why would we wanna bench him?
He has only had 10 days of normal training before starting to play... he needs a rest cause his fitness levels are still low.
Posted by: Bluesummers Jan 21 2008, 06:34 PM
When does janku get back?
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jan 21 2008, 07:47 PM
0-3. Gila, Kaka' & Seedorf.
The 3 points are all that really matters, but I'd like a good performance to go with it this time.
Posted by: han2503 Jan 21 2008, 08:51 PM
He has only had 10 days of normal training before starting to play... he needs a rest cause his fitness levels are still low.
Well neither Janku or Sergio are fit and I don't think Paolo will play in this one.
So it's either Bonera (who would be put in an even bigger disadvantage if played there) or Favalli
Any news on Janku btw?
Posted by: Tennie Jan 22 2008, 05:20 AM
Janku, Maldini, and Pippo all practiced in the gym today. And I think that Carletto said something post-Udinese about Janku perhaps being back for the Sunday game, not for the mid-week game.
Posted by: MizNelson Jan 22 2008, 05:31 AM
Just that he worked out in the gym at Milanello yesterday with Maldini and Pippo. No word on whether he'll play on Wednesday.
Posted by: Bluesummers Jan 22 2008, 06:11 AM
Thank god, i can't wait for him to return. He is vital for our team.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 22 2008, 09:14 AM
Forget what Carlo says... before Napoli game he said Janku will be back for Udinese... and now he's not gonna even make Atalanta game. what's the point in not telling the truth... I've no idea!
We have problems in LB and we don't even consider an alternative... that's amazing how relaxed our management are
Posted by: redbabies Jan 22 2008, 10:12 AM
We have problems in LB and we don't even consider an alternative... that's amazing how relaxed our management areÂ
Galliani: "Wait man, dont hurry..... we have the 5 best LB's in the world (Paolo, Janku, Sergio, Favalli, and Kaladze) from which only one (Kaladze is busy in DC) can play right now. Then we'll also have Grimi next season who is a very promising LB (
) , and in emergency situations we can field Bonera in that position too" 
Posted by: mkenya Jan 22 2008, 11:48 AM
) , and in emergency situations we can field Bonera in that position too" Finally, the management is thinking about young players, i hope this is not just talk...
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 22 2008, 12:29 PM
) , and in emergency situations we can field Bonera in that position too" you want to know how realistic it was? :
...
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 22 2008, 12:52 PM
i hope your being sarcastic
... cause redbabies certainly was!
Posted by: Tennie Jan 22 2008, 04:23 PM
Carletto held his pregame press conference (see acmilan.com's italian page). He indicated the following were possibilities as to Milan's lineup:
* Kalac in goal (Dida possibly returning Sunday)
* A problem on the left side of defense with neither Janku nor Serginho available and Maldini not fully over the flu.
* Ronie may be rested
* Either Seedorf or Ambrosini will probably be rested
* The formation will be a 4-3-1-2 (specifically, he said he'd play with a trequartista and two strikers).
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 22 2008, 04:47 PM
* Kalac in goal (Dida possibly returning Sunday)
* A problem on the left side of defense with neither Janku nor Serginho available and Maldini not fully over the flu.
* Ronie may be rested
* Either Seedorf or Ambrosini will probably be rested
* The formation will be a 4-3-1-2 (specifically, he said he'd play with a trequartista and two strikers).
Then it'll be Pato-Gila. that's great!
Posted by: dst Jan 22 2008, 05:05 PM
Then it will probably be
Oddo-Nesta-Bonera-Kaladze (or Kaladze-Bonera)
Gattuso-Pirlo-Seedorf
Kaka
Pato-Gila
Posted by: Tennie Jan 22 2008, 05:47 PM
(from acmilan.com's italian page)
Here are the call ups for the game:
MILANELLO - Sono 20 i convocati rossoneri per Atalanta-Milan:
PORTIERI: Kalac, Fiori, Offredi;
DIFENSORI: Bonera, Digao, Favalli, Kaladze, Nesta, Oddo, Simic;
CENTROCAMPISTI: Brocchi, Emerson, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Pirlo, Seedorf;
ATTACCANTI: Gilardino, Kakà , Pato, Ronaldo.
No Ambro or Maldini.
Posted by: Il Capitano Jan 22 2008, 07:35 PM
This is Gilardinos chance too show that he is a contender for a starting shirt.
I really hope he takes this chance and scores. I have said that Gila plays well when he has a partner and always seems too score, this is the time too prove that.
Forza Milan & Gilardino
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 22 2008, 08:09 PM
I really hope he takes this chance and scores. I have said that Gila plays well when he has a partner and always seems too score, this is the time too prove that.
Carlo has said Pato and Ronaldo are not in top shape and might not play [especially Ronaldo who's obviously having more difficulties with his fitness].
He has said we will play 4-3-3 (or 4-3-1-2) but that's Carlo... can't trust in what he says. I won't be surprised if he fielded Gila as a lone striker again.
Posted by: dst Jan 22 2008, 08:18 PM
Why do you say that? You said it before about what he said on Jankulovski's condition but it's really not his fault if the medical stuff give him wrong dates...
Posted by: Darunia Jan 22 2008, 08:30 PM
Whatever formation, Milan has the quality to win... this is an away match afterall
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 22 2008, 10:00 PM
Why do you say that? You said it before about what he said on Jankulovski's condition but it's really not his fault if the medical stuff give him wrong dates...Janku's condition is medical staff's business. you're right. but our playing system is decided by no one than Carlo himself
we have four strikers available for this trip. it's now up to Carlo in what formation we're gonna play, 4-3-1-2 or 4-3-2-1...
Posted by: dst Jan 22 2008, 10:03 PM
we have four strikers available for this trip. it's now up to Carlo in what formation we're gonna play, 4-3-1-2 or 4-3-2-1...What I'm saying is that Ancelotti never hides anything... Milan's weapon is not unpredictability anyway... if he said he'll play with a trequartista and two forwards then that's what he's going to do unless any problem occurs with one of those players.
Posted by: elcordobez Jan 23 2008, 04:11 AM
Is this game going to be televised?since it's behind closed doors
Posted by: Tennie Jan 23 2008, 04:15 AM
The game's being shown live on the Fox Soccer Channel in the US. I think that there's a streaming link to the FSC feed (?) for games.
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 08:35 AM
Bet 365 is showing it to live stream
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 23 2008, 08:45 AM
"Tomorrow? We will play with three strikes, or two strikers and a playmaker."
"Pato? I'm not sure if he will play"
"Ronaldo and Pato are not in top shape, it's more probable that Ronaldo will rest, who is 31 years old and is coming off six months of inactivity, compared to Pato."
What will it be then, Carlo?... Even though you understand it will probably be Pato-Gila, but still there's a certain amount of equivocation in his words! our management's press conferences are more or less always like that, especially Galliani's!
Posted by: dst Jan 23 2008, 12:26 PM
This is clearly bad translation...
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 23 2008, 12:29 PM
^^
Ah, maybe...
Posted by: dst Jan 23 2008, 12:32 PM
For Ancelotti it is probably that. Galliani speaks with riddles you are right about this.
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 12:40 PM
Sky Sport Italia 1 is showing it
Posted by: m1ke Jan 23 2008, 02:43 PM
I'll be watching this on Bet365 - thanks for the heads up!
Posted by: han2503 Jan 23 2008, 04:23 PM
Yep, download TVU and click here http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=5049&part=sports and select the FSC link
Posted by: han2503 Jan 23 2008, 04:29 PM
Serie A Preview: Atalanta - Milan
What: Italian Serie A
Who: Atalanta (22 pts. 11th) vs. AC Milan (24 pts., 9th)
When: Wednesday January 23, 20:30 (CET)
Where: Stadio Azzurri D’Italia, Bergamo
This rescheduled fixture gives both of these clubs a chance to make up points on their rivals in the standings.
Bad Memories
This match is the reschedule of a postponed fixture from the day on which a Lazio supporter tragically perished back in early November. Although the players had already taken the field and the match having started, it was stopped by the referee due to the protesting of the crowd.
Fans across Italy were extremely upset after hearing of the accidental shooting of Lazio supporter Gabriele Sandri, and the supporters in Bergamo forced the stoppage of play in this fixture after less than ten minutes.
The serious nature of the supporters’ intentions, if play were to continue, was clearly evidenced by the considerable damage to the barriers that separated the stands from the pitch. After Atalanta striker Cristiano Doni’s attempt to calm down the crowd was unsuccessful, the referee had no choice but to stop the match.
Moving on to the playing aspect of this fixture, Atalanta are a different side, at least according to the Serie A table, than they were when the original fixture took place. Back on November 11, the Oribici were in sixth place, on the back of a five-match unbeaten streak.
Currently, however, they have not won since December 2, having lost four of the five matches they have played since their 5-1 home victory against Napoli. This streak of poor results was blighted even further by their loss at the weekend, 2-1 away to Genoa. Following a goal from the penalty spot by Cristiano Doni with less than a half hour remaining, Genoa stormed back to win the match through Marco Borriello and then Luciano Figueroa. Atalanta were a bit unluckly, though, as they hit the goal frame on no less than three occasions.
Atalanta are also playing with heavy hearts, as club president Ivan Ruggeri is currently in hospital with a brain aneurism.
With the crowded schedule Milan now face in the coming weeks due to their involvement in the FIFA Club World Cup, they will need to draw on every member of their squad in order to get the full allotment of points on offer, which is almost necessary at this point to get up to fourth position in the standings by the end of the season.
Sitting ten points adrift of fourth-place Fiorentina, Milan have a lot of work to do. However, they have shown real improvement in the last two matches, largely to do with the addition of young Brazilian striker Alexandre Pato and the return to fitness of Ronaldo. These two strikers, combined with the world’s best player, Kakà , have formed one of the most fearsome trios in all of Europe, despite having only played together on two occasions.
Their first match, a 5-2 victory over Napoli, was one of the most entertaining games of the season. Pato was making his debut, and Ronaldo was just returning from his umpteenth injury spell. The first half of the match was pretty even, with Napoli twice pulling back a goal after Milan had taken the lead.
But the second half was all Milan’s. When Ronaldo scored his second goal of the match inside the first minute following the restart, it appeared as though the back and forth fireworks of the first stanza would be replicated. This was not to be, however. A brilliant strike from the top of the box by Kakà ten minutes onward secured the win for Milan, and young Pato got the debut goal he had predicted a handful of minutes later.
Milan’s next match, which took place this past Sunday, was a difficult away fixture to Udinese, who were in fourth place in the Serie A table at the time. Both sides had numerous opportunities to take the lead, with each goalkeeper (Zeljko Kalac of Milan and Samir Handanovic of Udinese, respectively) keeping his side in the match with acrobatic saves.
The only goal of the game came in second half stoppage time, through the much-criticized Alberto Gilardino, after he made a substitute appearance for Ronaldo in the 83rd minute. Pato possessed the ball, and then passed to Kakà , who set up Gilardino for the finish with a cheeky backheel.
With the matches now coming fast and furious, Milan must take advantage of their bench, and despite Gilardino constantly being linked with a move away to another club, he will be needed in the push for a top-four finish.
FORM GUIDE (last five fixtures)
Atalanta
12/9 Juventus 1-0 Atalanta Serie A
12/16 Atalanta 1-3 Palermo Serie A
12/23 Livorno 1-1 Atalanta Serie A
1/13 Atalanta 1-2 Roma Serie A
1/19 Genoa 2-1 Atalanta Serie A
Milan
12/20 Milan 1-2 Catania Coppa Italia
12/23 Inter 2-1 Milan Serie A
1/13 Milan 5-2 Napoli Serie A
1/16 Catania 1-1 Milan Coppa Italia
1/20 Udinese 0-1 Milan Serie A
TEAM NEWS
Atalanta will be up against it in this match, due to their numerous absences through injury. The injury list includes Costinha, Leonardo Talamonti, George Forsyth and Marino Defendi, while Antonio Langella and Claudio Rivalta are doubtful.
Milan will again put Zeljko Kalac between the sticks, with Nelson Dida still suffering from a knee injury. Other names missing from the list of called-up are Filippo Inzaghi, Massimo Ambrosini and Marcos Cafu. Paolo Maldini is out with the flu. Fortunately, Andrea Pirlo returns from a one-match suspension.
PLAYERS TO WATCH
Cristiano Doni (Atalanta) – He is undoubtedly Atalanta’s best player. Once rumored years ago to have almost joined Milan, he can show the Rossoneri why passing on him was a mistake.
Alberto Gilardino (Milan) – Ronaldo will most likely start on the bench, and ‘Gila’ could get the start alongside Pato. The pressure continues to mount on Gilardino to score consistently, and finally having a complimentary forward next to him in attack could do a lot for his game.
POSSIBLE STARTING XI’s
Atalanta (4-5-1): Coppola; Belleri, Bellini, Capelli, Carrozzieri; De Ascentis, Pinto, Guarente, Doni, Tissone; Floccari
Milan (4-3-1-2): Kalac; Oddo, Nesta, Kaladze, Favalli; Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf; Kakà ; Pato, Gilardino
PREDICTION
With Kakà fielded behind a more traditional forward pairing of Pato and Gilardino, he could well play even better than he has recently. Atalanta will not have the defensive solidity necessary to keep out the Milan attack, especially with Andrea Pirlo returning to the squad.
Atalanta 0-2 Milan
Joel Whitehead
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 05:43 PM
it looks like a derby 11th and 12th place in the league, whoao...
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 05:58 PM
11th and 12th place in the league, whoao...If Milan wins, Milan will be 6th with 2 games in hand
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 06:03 PM
i expect a win , these games are all must win !!! 0 - 1 or 0 - 3 ill take it but wining is the most important !!!!!!!!!! FORZA MILAN 
Posted by: dst Jan 23 2008, 06:09 PM
I have this feeling that Gila won't score and we'll be back where we were last Saturday!
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 06:12 PM
i think he will score i think the only reason he wasnt before was the 2 striker thing
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 07:13 PM
i have the same feeling as dst but kaladze could score today
Posted by: han2503 Jan 23 2008, 07:48 PM
but kaladze could score today In our net or their's...?
Posted by: weeeow Jan 23 2008, 07:51 PM
Forza Seedorf!
Bit random but hes in my fantasy team lol. Dont worry, Kaka' is too! 
Posted by: Tennie Jan 23 2008, 08:00 PM
(from acmilan.com's italian page)
Lineup:
MILAN: Kalac; Bonera, Nesta, Kaladze, Favalli; Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf; Kakà ; Pato, Gilardino
Posted by: Minami Jan 23 2008, 08:00 PM
Any news on the official line ups??
I just hope we won't play with the xmas tree...
FORZA MILAN
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 08:07 PM
MILAN: Kalac; Bonera, Nesta, Kaladze, Favalli; Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf; Kakà ; Pato, Gilardino
ATALANTA: Coppola; Rivalta, Carrozzieri, Pellegrino, Bellini; Ferreira Pinto, Tissone, Guarente, Langella; Doni; Floccari
Posted by: Tennie Jan 23 2008, 08:13 PM
I'm a little disappointed. We won't be seeing Pippo's kid brother play for Atalanta...at least from the start. Simone is on the bench.
I hope Gila has a good game here, playing in a 4-3-1-2 from the start. (YAY NO MORE CHRISTMAS TREE!)
Posted by: m1ke Jan 23 2008, 08:15 PM
That's a nice line-up - good balance throughout the team.
Posted by: han2503 Jan 23 2008, 08:21 PM
I hope Gila has a good game here, playing in a 4-3-1-2 from the start. (YAY NO MORE CHRISTMAS TREE!)
That's a good thing, it will avoid him getting slapped by Nesta
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 08:31 PM
game underway...
FORZA MILAN!!!
Posted by: LaPalma Jan 23 2008, 08:33 PM
Oh, oh....there's a confused kid on the pitch....oh wait...it's Pato.
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 08:38 PM
its hard to watch the match without fans...shame
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 08:40 PM
not offside(kaka) in my opinion, that could be a good chance for milan...
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 08:43 PM
lol Ronaldo back to 
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 08:45 PM
what a speed from pato...
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 08:46 PM
1-0 gattuso with the shoot...not sure who scored
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 08:47 PM
GATTUSO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 08:47 PM
seedorf volley deflected! corner..
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 08:48 PM
RINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Posted by: han2503 Jan 23 2008, 08:48 PM
GOOOOAALLLL!!!!!!!!!! Il Capitano (for tonight)
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 08:50 PM
not that i want to say something to quick, but i'm really satisfaid with favalli's recent games...
Posted by: LaPalma Jan 23 2008, 08:51 PM
Seedorfs shot was better but hey...who cares
FORZA Rhino!!!!
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Jan 23 2008, 08:51 PM
Doni got the last touch, but i am not sure who the goal will be credited to
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 08:52 PM
FORZA Rhino!!!!
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 08:55 PM
just need to close this game out now a few goals would be nice but we need this win especially !!!!
Posted by: armisse Jan 23 2008, 08:58 PM
Yes """"!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Minami Jan 23 2008, 09:01 PM
Doesn't Pato play good?
Perhaps Carlo should have rested him fot todays match...
But Rino goal is really great? How did he do it? Just can't watch the game, so please some information
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 09:03 PM
what a miss from pato...nooooooooooooooooo, that should have been 0-2
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 09:03 PM
oh seedorf a little more accuracy on the cross before and Gila would have made it 0 - 2
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 09:03 PM
Seedorf 
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Jan 23 2008, 09:04 PM
Perhaps Carlo should have rested him fot todays match...
But Rino goal is really great? How did he do it? Just can't watch the game, so please some information
Seedorf (i think) took a corner, it got knocked down to Gattuso, who was outside the box, he played a general ball into the area which took a hit on Doni's head and left the keeper stranded
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 09:04 PM
bad miss Pato
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 09:05 PM
Atalanta are right where Milan want them. And Pato, oh myy !!
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 09:06 PM
Gila not getting good enough service he wants a goal !
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 09:06 PM
This should easily be a 0-4 for Milan, easily !!
Posted by: han2503 Jan 23 2008, 09:08 PM
Wow Pato, did good to make the chance for himself, just a bit off with the shot.
We need that bit more in the final third, Getting in good positions and not making a good final pass or missing the target, we could have ended it in this half
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 09:09 PM
naahhh, rivalta giving a suspicious yellow to pirlo
Posted by: Minami Jan 23 2008, 09:09 PM
Well, Atalanta seems to be worse than 12. place ...
They haven't won much games recentla so I thought it would be a quite easy game for us...!!
Get the 3 points already !!!
FORZA
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 09:11 PM
We need that bit more in the final third, Getting in good positions and not making a good final pass or missing the target, we could have ended it in this half
Pato needs to settle into the team .. He is doing well, in fact very well .. Still, he needs time a couple more games. that said, he should have scored a brace. Who knows he might end it witha hattrick tonight (@Ari, this morning
)
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 09:11 PM
wooow, great drible from pirlo
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 09:12 PM
1-1, another stupid goal we receive...
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 09:13 PM
Galliani , Leanardo and Braida in the stands
Posted by: han2503 Jan 23 2008, 09:14 PM
As usual, we deserved that for not finishing off the chances we've had
Posted by: armisse Jan 23 2008, 09:14 PM
Pato needs to understand the team and vice versa ,,, more & more
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 09:14 PM
A draw right at half time .. Not nice ..
Still, Atalanta aren't as congested as Udine and they don't look as organized (but by second half all that could change..)
Posted by: armisse Jan 23 2008, 09:15 PM
Sh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TTTTTTTTTTTTtttt
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 09:16 PM
1-1 HT, not a fair result, we were way much better...
Posted by: armisse Jan 23 2008, 09:17 PM
we need Ronaldo !
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 09:17 PM
we can win this easily just need to finish and finish
Posted by: Minami Jan 23 2008, 09:17 PM
Dida in the goal?
Posted by: han2503 Jan 23 2008, 09:17 PM
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 09:18 PM
I believe this will give the players even more reason to close the game early in the second half.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 09:19 PM
BTW, I wonder how things are going for Juve in the coppa ?
Anyone has updates ?
Posted by: han2503 Jan 23 2008, 09:19 PM
Hopefully they come out fired up in the 2nd half like they have done in the past this season
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 09:19 PM
it's 0-0, burdisso got red card in 8th minute...
Posted by: Minami Jan 23 2008, 09:20 PM
what did he do?
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 09:21 PM
inter as usual red cards like candy
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 09:22 PM
no Kalac
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 09:22 PM
i've no idea just got it because he's an inter player
Posted by: Minami Jan 23 2008, 09:23 PM
just got it because he's an inter player That's reason enough
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Jan 23 2008, 09:24 PM
Can't remember the last time a merde player was sent off in the Serie A, wonder why?
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 09:24 PM
Great !!!
Posted by: LaPalma Jan 23 2008, 09:25 PM
I have absolutely no doubt that we'll score another goal. Langellas one was very good TBH. But on the otehr hand Atalanta didn't do anything else for the entire first half. I'm perfectly calm on this one.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 09:25 PM
... That's like an Arabic saying
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 09:26 PM
Yeah, me too ... But I have one doubt, it is if Atalanta congest their half, that might be tricky
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 09:27 PM
... That's like an Arabic saying
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 09:27 PM
$$$
we will just have to wait for the Derby
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Jan 23 2008, 09:29 PM
67% Possession for Meeeeeelan
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 09:31 PM
Ronaldo might come on for Pato apparently + hes warming up
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 09:31 PM
Cool Sig Patriot 
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 23 2008, 09:40 PM
What's happening... someone please...!
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 09:41 PM
mine went off to Bet 365 dam you !!!!!!!!
few got TVU working shoudve used this to begin with , whats happend? subs plz
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 23 2008, 09:43 PM
"Gilardino has been rather anonymous for most of the game! Ronaldo is warming up on the touchline - could we see his introduction soon??"
GOAL.COM
Are they telling the truth, Gila fans?!...
Posted by: han2503 Jan 23 2008, 09:45 PM
GOAL.COM
Are they telling the truth, Gila fans?!...
All of the strikers have been anonymus so far, Pato had that miss and a couple of good runs only. Kaka also not appearing much
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 09:47 PM
GOAL.COM
Are they telling the truth, Gila fans?!...
Blasphemy !!! They should tune into the game
Posted by: whoarethepatriots Jan 23 2008, 09:48 PM
Yep, we are struggling to get the ball to the strikers
Pato's miss was pretty bad, but lets not criticise him too much, he still is only 18
Posted by: Tennie Jan 23 2008, 09:49 PM
Ronie on for the kid.
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 09:50 PM
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 09:52 PM
back on...
Posted by: Tennie Jan 23 2008, 09:52 PM
(I like the smiley w/hair better, Ari).
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 09:54 PM
and look that now...2-1 for atalanta, f@@@@@@@@uck
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 09:54 PM
..
Posted by: han2503 Jan 23 2008, 09:54 PM
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 09:55 PM
2 - 1 
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 23 2008, 09:55 PM
WTF's happening? we conceded?
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 23 2008, 09:56 PM
Oh, it seems we did 
fvck!
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 09:56 PM
yes, another great kaladze's intervention...
Posted by: LaPalma Jan 23 2008, 09:56 PM
Oh crap.....now I hope on God and pray for the fat one....
Posted by: han2503 Jan 23 2008, 09:57 PM
Yep, as per usual
Posted by: weeeow Jan 23 2008, 09:57 PM
Jees
Posted by: Minami Jan 23 2008, 09:57 PM
Kaladze....that *******!!! he should be benched for all his mistakes!!!!
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 23 2008, 09:58 PM
Kaladze again?
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 09:58 PM
Times running out. If Atalanta close down ... It is all over
Posted by: han2503 Jan 23 2008, 09:59 PM
Oddo on for Bonera
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 09:59 PM
bet365 is back on
Posted by: LaPalma Jan 23 2008, 10:00 PM
Exactly....but we should hope that he won't do such mistakes again. let's just hope we'll score another two goals, cause otherwise our run for the forth spot could end right here.
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 10:00 PM
well for sure we can't score twice, shame we'd be happy with a draw at the end :S
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 23 2008, 10:00 PM
Kala error... here dst comes
Posted by: han2503 Jan 23 2008, 10:02 PM
If we cannot win this or at least salvage a draw, I think we'll fight for UEFA cup rather then CL
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 10:02 PM
i mean, it's nothing wrong if doing mistakes, every player does it...but kaladze, he make every match only one or two, but crucial...
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 10:03 PM
Roni
Posted by: elcordobez Jan 23 2008, 10:03 PM
Story of the season
Milan leads
Milan loses lead
Milan loses
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 10:03 PM
btw, ronaldo had a chance to equalize...is this copolla "our" gk??
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 10:04 PM
The one and only
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 10:05 PM
post and a goal for atalanta...but it's an offside !!
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 10:05 PM
Tissone off the bar.. and offside goal after that..
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 23 2008, 10:05 PM
A struggling win at Udine, now a defeat to Atalanta... both average teams.
Maybe we need new signings?
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 10:06 PM
can't belive we wont win this one...
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Jan 23 2008, 10:07 PM
Maybe we need new signings?
Or tactics?
Posted by: elcordobez Jan 23 2008, 10:07 PM
This is retarded, our attack is looking flat, there's no defence wattha hell
Posted by: elcordobez Jan 23 2008, 10:08 PM
Definately tbh though Milan don't really have the players to play anything other tactic
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Jan 23 2008, 10:08 PM
BTW I read that their goal was a Bonera mistake and not Kaladze, who actually made the mistake?
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 10:09 PM
kaka's shot, almost 2-2, corner it is
Posted by: elcordobez Jan 23 2008, 10:10 PM
To top that off our midfield is giving the ball away nonstop
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 10:11 PM
Dreadful
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 10:11 PM
SILVIO !!!!!!! Bring in Ronaldinho !!!!
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 23 2008, 10:11 PM
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 10:12 PM
i can't belive, how beign a WB for a whole life, training 20 + more years, and you cant make 1 of 5 good pass from the side
Posted by: LaPalma Jan 23 2008, 10:13 PM
1-0 Merda.
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 10:15 PM
cherry on the cake 
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 10:15 PM
Perfect !! Just perfect
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 23 2008, 10:16 PM
MY GOD!!
they're playing with 10 men from the eighth minute. they're FVCKING STRONG!
Posted by: LaPalma Jan 23 2008, 10:16 PM
Who is this guy and what has he done to Massimo Oddo?
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Jan 23 2008, 10:18 PM
WTF?????????
Dear oh dear...
Posted by: weeeow Jan 23 2008, 10:18 PM
Im sooooooo disappointed
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 10:18 PM
gourcuff thinks he's on joga bonito
Posted by: m1ke Jan 23 2008, 10:19 PM
This is pretty frustrating.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 10:20 PM
He's the least of my worries ! I want to know, What Happened to My Milan !!!!
This is too much.
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 10:21 PM
great, just great...ee, is there any team that can't take a win against us without playing great?? poor match...
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 23 2008, 10:22 PM
How stupid we were to get carried away by that 5-2 win... we are the same old struggling Milan, and we will play in the UEFA Cup next season
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 10:22 PM
"The referee blows his whistle to bring an end to a good night for Atalanta who had not won since the 2nd of December last year."
Posted by: han2503 Jan 23 2008, 10:23 PM
Just no words for this one. I'm off to bed since I have an early lecture and can;t believe that I stayed up for this same old cr@p
Posted by: KillerMax Jan 23 2008, 10:24 PM
I'm SO SHOCKED!!!!!!!!!!!! OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Jan 23 2008, 10:24 PM
Hahahahahahahaha
Yet another new low for us
Posted by: weeeow Jan 23 2008, 10:25 PM
complete cr@p
we HAVE TO WIN the next kazillion games in serie a for us to get to fourth.
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 10:25 PM
i really think we cant 4th we should've won this not easily but still won it
Posted by: elcordobez Jan 23 2008, 10:25 PM
LoL i think we've seen the best to the worst of Milan all in one game, that's pretty incredible, 1st half we wer in cruise control one touch passing,2nd half we made no tackles and cldn't keep the ball for more than a few touches.
We played right into their strategy....again
need to change tactics but we really don't have the players for that.
Posted by: LaPalma Jan 23 2008, 10:26 PM
Now all our enthusiasm is gone....as well as the 4th spot is IMO. I'm very frustrated right now....
The first half was just great....it tells me that this team can still play football. But it's obvious that this squad lost it's famous self-confidence. 2 years ago this unlucky equalizer just have been that...unlucky. We would have just played on like before an we would have gotten the win in the end.
But now....things have changed...
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 10:28 PM
The first half was just great....it tells me that this team can still play football. But it's obvious that this squad lost it's famous self-confidence. 2 years ago this unlucky equalizer just have been that...unlucky. We would have just played on like before an we would have gotten the win in the end.
But now....things have changed...
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Jan 23 2008, 10:28 PM
We played right into their strategy....again
need to change tactics but we really don't have the players for that.
IMO we have the players but they are not being picked.
Posted by: KillerMax Jan 23 2008, 10:29 PM
The first half was just great....it tells me that this team can still play football. But it's obvious that this squad lost it's famous self-confidence. 2 years ago this unlucky equalizer just have been that...unlucky. We would have just played on like before an we would have gotten the win in the end.
But now....things have changed...
So you think it's in the belief system? Or motivation? Or lack of reinforcement? Or maybe a little bit of everything? Well, I think this pretty much answers itself.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 23 2008, 10:29 PM
UEFA Cup is the only title our trophy cabinet lacks!
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 10:29 PM
i can't take this why is he playing Bonera on the right !!!!!!!!!!!!! great defender , not a good wing back
Posted by: weeeow Jan 23 2008, 10:29 PM
Posted by: bigmacmtl Jan 23 2008, 10:30 PM
another loss that was gilas fault, i mean it was his mistake on both goals.
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 10:30 PM
i need to vent my anger i think ill watch Inter lose hopefully
Posted by: bigmacmtl Jan 23 2008, 10:30 PM
bingo
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Jan 23 2008, 10:31 PM
As much as it pains me to say it, perhaps we'd be better in the UEFA cup next season if it means we can finally invest in the team. The sad fact is that had we have spent when the majority of fans wanted us to we wouldn't be in this mess.
Posted by: redbabies Jan 23 2008, 10:32 PM
lack of motivation, a total shame for our players!!!!!!
Man of the match?
well, I can't chose beetwen Kaladze, Pato, Gila, or even Oddo.... they were all "brilliant"!
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 10:33 PM
Inter Milan 2 - 0 Juventus
Posted by: bigmacmtl Jan 23 2008, 10:35 PM
we have a few of them, nesta,kaka,pirlo, pato in the future,gila maybe then theres 2-3 players that shouldnt be automatic starters, then theres the old washed out players that we like to hold on to so we can show everyone our great class while everyone laughs at us, and the rest are good enough for maybe atalanta?
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 23 2008, 10:35 PM
****!! 
Posted by: KillerMax Jan 23 2008, 10:35 PM
More anger coming your way buddy rhy A4.
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 10:36 PM
oh my god , what has the world come to , i dont think i can watch another Serie A game its to hard watching Milan lose to sh**y teams that play crap all season but when Milan comes around they play 110%
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 10:36 PM
oh inter why couldnt go bankrupt
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 10:37 PM
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1717692
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 10:38 PM
yeah well we had the chance to seal the match, but pato missed it...
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Jan 23 2008, 10:38 PM
IMO the roles have reversed; A few years ago we would have been 2-0 up and they would be losing 2-1. But they invested wisely and strengthened their squad while we were given cheap,old freebies
the rest is history...
Posted by: weeeow Jan 23 2008, 10:39 PM
thats really really depressing
jus f@ck off kala
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 23 2008, 10:39 PM
this one could go to his top 3
Posted by: KillerMax Jan 23 2008, 10:39 PM
I didn't watch the game. dst, please say something about Kaladze. And make it a long and enjoyable post to read. I think we all need it.
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 10:39 PM
Dam you Kaladze what were you doing
Posted by: bigmacmtl Jan 23 2008, 10:40 PM
the amazing thing now is guys like galliani/carlo have yet to admit we are havuing a bad season or we're in trouble... according to him we're just unlucky. well thats the latest excuses since they cant blame it on the refs now.
this team is so pathetic it hurts really.
this is sorta seaosn i expected and predicted but i dint think it would get that bad.
Posted by: Tennie Jan 23 2008, 10:41 PM
The zebras pulled one back! Del Piero goal.
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 10:43 PM
i gotta say can Oddo cross i meen can he Gilardino isnt 10 metre's tall
Posted by: bigmacmtl Jan 23 2008, 10:43 PM
i play CB and even i would feel ashamed to make that kinda mistake....albeit at a different level obviously, but stilll... this guy is making mistakes like this every game yet people will ignore it when they dont result in goals against us.... to me it's all the same
Posted by: bigmacmtl Jan 23 2008, 10:43 PM
2-2!
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 10:43 PM
2 - 2 juve
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 23 2008, 10:44 PM
Pato missed it before Atalanta scored its first goal.
it's not right to blame him for this defeat. Have you forgotten our brilliant performances in the 1st half of the season when Pato wasn't even here?!
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 10:45 PM
yes yes yes
my blood level is going down
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 23 2008, 10:45 PM
I didn't watch the game. dst, please say something about Kaladze. And make it a long and enjoyable post to read. I think we all need it. eyval!
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 10:45 PM
JUVEEE !!!!!!
They got the away goal.
Posted by: KillerMax Jan 23 2008, 10:46 PM
We are so desperate...
Buve drawing with Inter in Coppa is supposed to make us happy now...
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 10:46 PM
Buve drawing with Inter in Coppa is supposed to make us happy now...yes
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 10:46 PM
cant wait for Carlo's post match interview what excuse this time Carlo my guess hes going to say the pitch and the fact there were no fans
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 10:47 PM
Buve drawing with Inter in Coppa is supposed to make us happy now...its sad but true get on the bandwagon
Posted by: bigmacmtl Jan 23 2008, 10:48 PM
it's not right to blame him for this defeat. Have you forgotten our brilliant performances in the 1st half of the season when Pato wasn't even here?!
yet it's ok to blame gila?
no one is saying he's a great player or that he's playing well.
i think he's playing shite along with the rest of the team.
results dont lie.
Posted by: KillerMax Jan 23 2008, 10:51 PM
I don't do that.
Some Trance music in the background and a glass of red wine should do the trick for me.
Posted by: bigmacmtl Jan 23 2008, 10:52 PM
Some Trance music in the background and a glass of red wine should do the trick for me.
a jug for me..
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 10:53 PM
Some Trance music in the background and a glass of red wine should do the trick for me.
its over now any way 2 - 2 ill just sleep it off
Posted by: dst Jan 23 2008, 10:53 PM
OMG... What... what was that? That was... Milan, yeah, that was Milan... I'm sure it was Milan but... what? why? I mean... ??? how? Oh I see... we're trying to keep Ruggeri alive, right? I mean... 
ha ha ha ha... that must be it, yeah! Or? Is it... ? Nah... We're trying to... ha ha how didn't I "get this" earlier... 
.... 
... ... ...
DAMN IT!
What the **** was that? WHAT, THE ****, WAS THAT?
It's terribly sad to see how slow this team has become... my heart aches!
And then... then there's Kaladze... Atalanta's first came from his awful clearance but I say "No, it's just me being biased, he can't be that bad!"... 2nd half, Simone Inzaghi. I laugh. I mean... it's freaking Simone Inzaghi... But I was wrong!! Oh boy I was wrong!! Kaladze is not only THAT bad but he can't even stop SIMONE ******* INZAGHI!!!!! At first I thought it was only a nightmare but then Tissone scores and I realize that I'm awake... and I see it again and again in the replays... I was now speaking slowly... "Kaladze... Simo... can't... stop... Simone *gulp* Inzaghi..." I cried... I was on my knees crying man!! IT'S SIMONE INZAGHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!
...
**** YOU!! **** YOU!! **** YOU YOU GODDAMN *******!! **** YOU!! YOU ************* PIG!! JUST GO AND **** YOURSELF!! **** YOU YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF ****!!! YOU DISGRACEFUL *****!!! DO WE ******* PAY THIS GUY? DO WE ******* PAY THIS GUY? PLEASE TELL ME WE'RE NOT PAYING THIS ************!!! CAUSE I CAN EASILY DO WHAT HE DOES AND I CAN DO IT FOR ******* FREE!! **** YOU!! **** YOU!! **** YOUOUOUOUOUOUOUOUOUOUOU...
...
Kalac 5,5
Nesta 6,5
Bonera 4
Favalli 4
Pirlo 6,5
Gattuso 6
Seedorf 5,5 Great work rate but... he's so slow.. slower than the replay... so painfully slow that you think a man standing still is livelier...
Kaka 6,5
Pato 4 What was that? Bring back Oliveira! edit: OK that was harsh but... he was BAD!
Gila 5,5
Ronaldo 5
I just need some rest...
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Jan 23 2008, 10:54 PM
LOL
I think everyone knows my opinions on this
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 23 2008, 10:55 PM
no one is saying he's a great player or that he's playing well.
i think he's playing shite along with the rest of the team.
results dont lie.
DID I say it's anyone's fault?
PATO IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE OUR SAVIOUR, FVCK WHOEVER HAS SAID OTHERWISE.
SO WHAT'S YOUR POINT EXACTLY? P.S.: Oh by the way how was Gila playing? he did have the support of another striker, didn't he?!!
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 10:56 PM
What... what was that? That was... Milan, yeah, that was Milan... I'm sure it was Milan but... what? why? I mean... ??? how? Oh I see... we're trying to keep Ruggeri alive, right? I mean... ha ha ha ha... that must be it, yeah! Or? Is it... ? Nah... We're trying to... ha ha how didn't I "get this" earlier... .... ... ... ... DAMN IT!
What the **** was that? WHAT, THE ****, WAS THAT?
It's terribly sad to see how slow this team has become... my heart aches!
And then... then there's Kaladze... Atalanta's first came from his awful clearance but I say "No, it's just me being biased, he can't be that bad!"... 2nd half, Simone Inzaghi. I laugh. I mean... it's freaking Simone Inzaghi... But I was wrong!! Oh boy I was wrong!! Kaladze is not only THAT bad but he can't even stop SIMONE ******* INZAGHI!!!!! At first I thought it was only a nightmare but then Tissone scores and I realize that I'm awake... and I see it again and again in the replays... I was now speaking slowly... "Kaladze... Simo... can't... stop... Simone *gulp* Inzaghi..." I cried... I was on my knees crying man!! IT'S SIMONE INZAGHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!
...
**** YOU!! **** YOU!! **** YOU YOU GODDAMN *******!! **** YOU!! YOU ************* PIG!! JUST GO AND **** YOURSELF!! **** YOU YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF ****!!! YOU DISGRACEFUL *****!!! DO WE ******* PAY THIS GUY? DO WE ******* PAY THIS GUY? PLEASE TELL ME WE'RE NOT PAYING THIS ************!!! CAUSE I CAN EASILY DO WHAT HE DOES AND I CAN'T DO IT FOR ******* FREE!! **** YOU!! **** YOU!! **** YOUOUOUOUOUOUOUOUOUOUOU...
...
Kalac 5,5
Nesta 6,5
Bonera 4
Favalli 4
Pirlo 6,5
Gattuso 6
Seedorf 5,5 Great work rate but... he's so slow.. slower than the replay... so painfully slow that you think a man standing still is livelier...
Kaka 6,5
Pato 4 What was that? Bring back Oliveira! edit: OK that was harsh but... he was BAD!
Gila 5,5
Ronaldo 5
I just need some rest...
i like how you left Kaladze out great post , get some rest buddy
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 10:57 PM
@ dst what a pretty post
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Jan 23 2008, 10:57 PM
LMFAO
DST at his best
Keep up the good work
Posted by: redbabies Jan 23 2008, 10:57 PM
you probably need after such a long post.
Posted by: bigmacmtl Jan 23 2008, 10:59 PM
talking too a few milan friends... theres some rumors that if we dont make 4 kaka is gone if not for a miracle... this is even more encouraging.
Posted by: rhy_A4 Jan 23 2008, 11:01 PM
just what i was thinking if we dont get 4th could be a exudos not just Kaka'
Posted by: LaPalma Jan 23 2008, 11:03 PM
Uhhm...I get the feeling that dst wasn't trying to be funny at all
@pkiller: Yes...it's pretty much alittle bit of everything we lack.
And yes...how desperate are to cheer for Juve (F@cking Juve!!!!) in the Coppa so that final some freakin team kicks the meras asses
Posted by: Bluesummers Jan 23 2008, 11:03 PM
So guys still think we don't need transfers and Pato is good enough for us?
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 11:07 PM
no he wasn't... the man put all his heart to that post and is exhausted
Posted by: I_Rossoneri Jan 23 2008, 11:08 PM
I believe in galliani and carlo...
Posted by: dst Jan 23 2008, 11:09 PM
Oh how predictable that was. This is not even a rumor, it's just what everyone thinks would happen.
If that was his decision I'd say "Goodbye and thanks for the 7th"...
But I don't think he'd leave if we failed to finish in the top 4 anyway... or maybe that's just me. If he leaves then consider Galliani a dead man... or try to kill him first!
Posted by: Bluesummers Jan 23 2008, 11:09 PM
Overall i have to say Atalanta played perfectly in defence and copolla played godlike i mean wow he made dida's recent performances look like a serie C keeper. We were unlucky but their is time and if we do sign someone. Pato is wonderful but we need more. The more fresh air we get into the team the better it is. I'll even take emre at this point.
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 23 2008, 11:10 PM
If that was his decision I'd say "Goodbye and thanks for the 7th"...
But I don't think he'd leave if we failed to finish in the top 4 anyway... or maybe that's just me. If he leaves then consider Galliani a dead man... or try to kill him first!
yeah after his comments lately i don't think he'll leave... maybe a loan!?
Posted by: redbabies Jan 23 2008, 11:17 PM
what a team!!!!
nobody could run
nobody could pass
nobody could cross
nobody could shot
nobody could drible
nobody could make a single fu**ing thinggggg
edhe the man of the match: Kakhaber "the error" Kaladze was simply amazing.... he couldn't do anything at all.
I would suspend all the players with 4 weeks of wages for not giving enough effort.
Posted by: KillerMax Jan 23 2008, 11:18 PM
Kaka? Loan? dst?
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 23 2008, 11:19 PM
Carlo Ancelotti admits Milan’s mistakes cost them dearly, while Atalanta dedicate their victory to President Ivan Ruggeri.
The Rossoneri were expected to conquer the Stadio Azzurri d’Italia in this Week 12 tie postponed from November 11 due to rioting and therefore played behind closed doors.
However, Alexandre Pato wasted several great chances and errors in defence also proved decisive as Atalanta fought back to win 2-1.
“We played very well in the first half, opened the scoring and had the chances to extend our advantage. It was very negative to go into the break with a 1-1 scoreline, we deserved more,†commented Ancelotti.
“In the second half we tried to get back in front, but a defensive error allowed Atalanta to score their second goal and then close up all the spaces, so it became far more difficult.
“The second half was a step backwards, but I must say this team has not played a better first half this season in Serie A.â€
Kakha Kaladze was caught out for the Atalanta winner scored by Nando Tissone.
“It was a mistake, the pitch was slippery and this can happen. It was a mistake that cost us dearly, though.â€
Atalanta did not expect this victory and it was a special one for the team that hopes President Ruggeri will emerge from his coma following an aneurysm.
“This win was for the President,†said goalscorer Tissone. “He was our first thought. We did everything away to Genoa looking for victory and couldn’t do it, but now we have.â€
Coach Luigi Del Neri also dedicated the result to Ruggeri. “He is a man with the courage of his convictions and we all respect him. We will try to give him strength any way we can. I hope when he returns to us, someone will tell him what the team achieved and this can raise his spirits.
“As for the match, if you give Milan space, they will hurt you, so we faced them in the perfect way. We never gave the impression we were under pressure,†continued the boss.
“It is not easy to score two against Milan, especially if you go behind to an unlucky own goal, but if you play good football then the results come.â€
Football Italia
Posted by: KillerMax Jan 23 2008, 11:22 PM
*Deep breath* Wow... I needed that. It's kind of like a drug. Look what have you done Milan. Milanfan.com has become a place for heartache and misery.
Posted by: Tennie Jan 23 2008, 11:23 PM
Well.
I'm glad I didn't see the game and don't know if I'll stay up late to watch the replay.
That said, it seems the prediction I made some months ago is sadly accurate: I predicted a bad season and it looks like we're having one.
Motivation is a big problem. So is the lack of depth. Both need to be fixed, but in honesty I don't know if they CAN be fixed in time to save Milan this year.
Posted by: redbabies Jan 23 2008, 11:29 PM
goal.com: AC Milan ratings
Kalac – 6: In truth Kalac did not have a worthwhile save to make all game. He was faultless on both of Atalanta’s goals.
Bonera – 5.5: Given a real run-around by Langella and made very little impact as an attacking force either.
Nesta – 5.5: Poor game from one of the world’s best defenders. Fell hook, line and sinker for Langella’s dummy on the equalising goal, and had a rocky night.
Kaladze – 5.5: Kaladze had been a rock for 60 minutes of the game until a quite horrendous error gifted Atalanta the winner. If it hadn’t been for this mistake Kaladze probably would have got a rating of 7/7.5. Unfortunately this is how it works. If you are an angel all your life and you commit murder, you still go to prison.
Favalli – 5: I was never a fan of Favalli when he was in his prime – even less so now he is in his mid-30s. At fault for the first goal.
Gattuso – 6.5: Much improved performance from Gattuso who at least showed signs of returning to form. He is still lacking the fire and energy that we have come to know from him though. Will this ever return?
Seedorf – 6: Flattered to deceive did Seedorf tonight. He always threatened to produce some brilliance but it never quite came off. Was unlucky not to earn an equaliser at the death as his piledriver was brilliantly saved by Coppola.
Pirlo – 8: Absolutely brilliant once again. Sprayed passes around the pitch all game and was the man behind all of Milan’s first half dominance. At one point I counted five 30-yard passes to a team-mate’s feet within the space of five minutes. Genius!
Kaka – 6.5: Electric in the first half, but went missing in the second, despite an excellent late turn and shot that forced a save out of Coppola.
Pato – 6: Disappointing game from the youngster. Showed some explosive bursts in the first half, but he missed a glorious one-on-one and barely had a kick after the break.
Gilardino – 5.5: What can you say about Gilardino? He just isn’t a Milan player - simple as that. His lack of technical quality just doesn’t suit the Rossoneri. He is not on the same wavelength as the likes of Kaka, Seedorf and Pirlo.
Substitutes: Ronaldo - 6, Oddo – 4.5, Gourcuff - NA
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 23 2008, 11:30 PM
I'm glad I didn't see the game and don't know if I'll stay up late to watch the replay.
That said, it seems the prediction I made some months ago is sadly accurate: I predicted a bad season and it looks like we're having one.
Motivation is a big problem. So is the lack of depth. Both need to be fixed, but in honesty I don't know if they CAN be fixed in time to save Milan this year.
... Seriously, what will happen if we fail to finish in top four? this is getting scary now
Posted by: m1ke Jan 23 2008, 11:32 PM
We'll win the CL
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 23 2008, 11:36 PM
What will happen if we fail in our league objectives, and, don't win the CL?
Posted by: dst Jan 23 2008, 11:46 PM
Oh come on, there was no mistake... edit Kaladze out and you can see that it was simply a case of 2 against one... Kaladze did not do any mistake, it just would have been no different if he had stayed at home!
Alright... I'm a good doggy and I will believe that the pitch was slippery while waging my lil' tail... but the dumb **** jumped! Now don't tell me the air at Bergamo is slippery too cause the doggy will bite!!
Just keep him fielding him... he's done worse... Siena anyone?
Just look at Nesta's reaction... there's nothing more to say. He just can't believe he saw that.
Kaka? Loan? dst? Yeah... why not? It's possible... I mean... I thought anyone who's payed at least 5 bucks can stop Simone Inzaghi...
Posted by: august_milan Jan 23 2008, 11:58 PM
why is it that all our goalies we have out on loan are playing amazing but the goalies we keep strugle?
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 24 2008, 12:00 AM
Bad management I guess...
Posted by: KillerMax Jan 24 2008, 12:04 AM
Just look at Nesta's reaction... there's nothing more to say. He just can't believe he saw that.
He puts his hands up at first like, "what the f@ck was that?" And then after Tissone scores he starts bitching at God for creating such ineffectual creature... Hilarious...
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 24 2008, 12:13 AM
Very good question !!
It isn't a matter of either/or ... Sure there is a possibility of missing out on the final and 4th place; which would ultimately cause havoc amongst both the San Siro crowd and the Milan dressing room. Not only that, it might even lead to the end of this current cycle of Milan, whatever goes up must come down.
What Milan accomplished last season was something beyond normal. It was Milan against the world, and at times against it's own fans !
Can it happen again ? Sure it can, we'll see .. The odds are stacking up just like they did last season
p.s. But if this same performance continues, then 4th place is not possible. But the CL, I believe Milan can do it (it's for Paolo afterall) and no team holds Milan's current record in that tournament.
Posted by: dst Jan 24 2008, 12:24 AM
He puts his hands up at first like, "what the f@ck was that?" And then after Tissone scores he starts bitching at God for creating such ineffectual creature... Hilarious... It's really a case of "what the **** was that?"!! Kaladze is not unskillful he's just unbearably stupid! He thinks that no matter the situation he can take the ball away. Sometimes you just have to do the simple things... all he had to do in this occasion was to smoothly stand beside his opponent. Especially since it was Simone Inzaghi; if he had not lost the ball, the ball would have lost him...
@Carletto: Pato cannot score 30 goals, it's just that you always gave Ale and Kakha different-color bibs...
Posted by: Portikins Jan 24 2008, 12:25 AM
How can we lose to this guys?
Honestly. We're a f joke.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jan 24 2008, 12:29 AM
Honestly. We're a f joke.
We're just the same as Liverpool in my opinion. Crap tactics, can't beat small teams. Don't deserve to be in the CL next season. Simple as that.
We're over the half way point, the games are starting to run down now and we need to start being consistant, otherwise we have zero chance of finishing in the top 4. When was the last time we put a few wins together!?
Posted by: Tennie Jan 24 2008, 12:31 AM
Here are datasport's ratings. They're not at all kind to Milan. I can't remember the last time more than one player got a 4 from these guys.
Kalac 6.5 Buone parate, incolpevole sui gol. [Good game, goals not his fault.]
Bonera 6 Gioca un buon primo tempo, ma poi deve lasciare il campo al piu` offensivo Oddo. [Played a good first half, but then was subbed out for the more offensive-minded Oddo.]
Kaladze 5.5 Il modulo a due punte piu` Kaka` e Seedorf scopre la difesa. Lui e` bravo negli anticipi, ma va in difficolta` quando e` uno contro uno. [The 2 striker model puts pressure on the defense. He's good in anticipating, but has problems with one on ones.]
Favalli 5 Non ha piu` l`eta` per le sgroppate e infatti non gli vengono richieste visto che dovrebbe rimanere a presidiare la zona difensiva, Pero` con la velocita` di Ferreira Pinto soffre parecchio. [Not young enough. Suffered against the speed of Ferreira Pinto.]
Nesta 5.5 Cerca di mantenere la bussola, ma non puo` evitare di andare in difficolta` viste le mancate coperture dei centrocampisti. [Tries to maintain the line but can't avoid problems with the missing cover of the midfielders.]
Oddo 4 Poco piu` di 20 minuti sono bastati per far capire perche` Ancelotti gli preferisce Bonera. Entra per dare un po` di spinta e garantire qualche cross decente in mezzo, ma non fa nessuna delle due cose. Inguardabile. [20 minutes is enough to understand why Ancelotti prefers Bonera. Enters to provide some decent crosses, but doesn't do it.]
Kaka` 6.5 Il solito gran movimento alla ricerca dello schizzo vincente. Per poco, a cinque minuti dalla fine, non gli riesce. [Theusual great movement in search of a winning play. In short order, in five minuts from the end, it does not succeed.]t
Gourcuff s.v. Qualche scatto velleitario in una decina di minuti. [Some decent plays in ten minutes.]
Pirlo 7 Dirige il gioco con ritrovata maestria, sembra che solo dai suoi piedi possano partire azioni decisive. [Directs the game, seems to be the only one whose feet can direct decisive actions.]
Seedorf 6 Inizia alla grande con alcune giocate davvero spettacolari. Poi cala alla distanza costretto in un ruolo che ormai non sente piu` suo. [Started well with some spectacular plays. After fell into a role he doesn't feel.]
Gattuso 6.5 Un gol, anche se fortuito, e una partita giocata con la solita generosita` gli fanno meritare un ampia sufficienza. [One goal, even if lucky, and a game decently played.]
Ronaldo 5 Gioca una mezzoretta, ma a differenza di Udine non riesce a trovare nemmeno uno spunto. [Played 30 minutes but doesn't find any chances.]
Gilardino 4.5 Quando un attaccante non ha nemmeno un`occasione, la colpa e` anche sua che non se la cerca. [When a striker doesn't have even one chance, the fault is also his for not looking for them.]
Pato 4 Decisivo in negativo. Clamoroso e imperdonabile l`errore sullo 0-1 che avrebbe pootuto chiudere la partita. [Decisively negative. Impardonable error on the attempt that could've closed the game.]
Posted by: Portikins Jan 24 2008, 12:33 AM
We're over the half way point, the games are starting to run down now and we need to start being consistant, otherwise we have zero chance of finishing in the top 4. When was the last time we put a few wins together!?
And it's funny that some guys in this forum laugh at Liverpool CL/PL situation...
Anyway... sack Ancelotti. I'm tired of that face in Milan bench.
Posted by: dst Jan 24 2008, 12:35 AM
Not really, this was our 17th game. But we do need consistency if we want to reach 4th place. It's still highly possibly but not if we keep playing like this.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jan 24 2008, 12:36 AM
I thought we'd played more than that! Obviously not. But the way we're playing, the only thing we're going to do is move down the table, not up it. Atalanta? Come on.
Posted by: dst Jan 24 2008, 12:38 AM
That's me!
This same team has won 2 CL's and and a Scudetto being runners up once and twice respectively. You can't say they are of the same quality as Liverpool, you just can't!
Most of them might be "done" but if we had a team as talented as Liverpool's we'd be fighting for relegation now!edit: I meant: Most of them are "done". They cannot compete for a c'ship. But the gap in quality between Milan's and Liverpool's first XI (when they both play at 100%) is immense. And this Liverpool will never win the EPL. They need 10 new players to do it. Their bench is even worse than ours...
Posted by: Portikins Jan 24 2008, 12:56 AM
But instead of looking and comparing us to Liverpool we should do that with Inter. Improve ourselves and not playing for the same cup every year since Calciopoli.
We look like a pile of shite this season. That's the truth. And you can quote this shite whenever you want. I just don't care.
Posted by: Nova Jan 24 2008, 01:00 AM
C'mon guys , Forza Milan !
Posted by: dst Jan 24 2008, 01:01 AM
We look like a pile of shite this season. That's the truth. And you can quote this shite whenever you want. I just don't care.
Yes, Inter are our opponents, I only talked about Liverpool in the EPL thread.
This season we are crap but it doesn't scare me so much. I still think we will reach 4th place. The thing is that our future looks black!! We need like 10 players in order to be able to compete for the c'ship next season and that means 14 players should come in considering that some will flop... It's just not possible. And that is sad cause in my view, it means that we won't be able to compete for the scudetto the next season for sure and maybe not even the one after that!
Posted by: dst Jan 24 2008, 01:03 AM
Yes, there are positives to take from this game... Seedorf, for the first time this season, passed with one touch!
Posted by: Nova Jan 24 2008, 01:05 AM
F*ck this game , Forza Milan nonetheless
Posted by: dst Jan 24 2008, 01:09 AM
I'll always be behind this club, no matter what so yes, Forza Milan!... But there are big problems that we have and it all just makes me sad.
Posted by: Nova Jan 24 2008, 01:14 AM
Me too buddy , but we will succeed in the end . Why ? Because we always have
Posted by: Nova Jan 24 2008, 01:15 AM
I dont wanna brag , but damn , i really love my previous post
Posted by: dst Jan 24 2008, 01:17 AM
Not always. You've seen Milan's dark late 90's... I don't want to re-live such a period and it looks like we are going down the same road.
It is exactly the same: An old team that no one wanted to admit it was old because we loved it. Until it was inevitable...
Posted by: Nova Jan 24 2008, 01:21 AM
It is exactly the same: An old team that no one wanted to admit it was old because we loved it. Until it was inevitable...
If it happens it happens man , its not like any of us can stop it. Unless you you have a time machine and go back in time and shoot Morrati & prevent calciopoli from ever happening
But it wont happen , and if it does I'll buy you pizza when you're in Drama again.
See , you cant lose
Posted by: Bluesummers Jan 24 2008, 03:40 AM
I swear man just one more good transfer like pato and we'll be set. Someone for defence like a LB would be good to cover for janku when he is injured. Favalli is great and all but we need pace on the wings.
Posted by: jbryant1 Jan 24 2008, 04:53 AM
Kalac – 6: In truth Kalac did not have a worthwhile save to make all game. He was faultless on both of Atalanta’s goals.
Bonera – 5.5: Given a real run-around by Langella and made very little impact as an attacking force either.
Nesta – 5.5: Poor game from one of the world’s best defenders. Fell hook, line and sinker for Langella’s dummy on the equalising goal, and had a rocky night.
Kaladze – 5.5: Kaladze had been a rock for 60 minutes of the game until a quite horrendous error gifted Atalanta the winner. If it hadn’t been for this mistake Kaladze probably would have got a rating of 7/7.5. Unfortunately this is how it works. If you are an angel all your life and you commit murder, you still go to prison.
Favalli – 5: I was never a fan of Favalli when he was in his prime – even less so now he is in his mid-30s. At fault for the first goal.
Gattuso – 6.5: Much improved performance from Gattuso who at least showed signs of returning to form. He is still lacking the fire and energy that we have come to know from him though. Will this ever return?
Seedorf – 6: Flattered to deceive did Seedorf tonight. He always threatened to produce some brilliance but it never quite came off. Was unlucky not to earn an equaliser at the death as his piledriver was brilliantly saved by Coppola.
Pirlo – 8: Absolutely brilliant once again. Sprayed passes around the pitch all game and was the man behind all of Milan’s first half dominance. At one point I counted five 30-yard passes to a team-mate’s feet within the space of five minutes. Genius!
Kaka – 6.5: Electric in the first half, but went missing in the second, despite an excellent late turn and shot that forced a save out of Coppola.
Pato – 6: Disappointing game from the youngster. Showed some explosive bursts in the first half, but he missed a glorious one-on-one and barely had a kick after the break.
Gilardino – 5.5: What can you say about Gilardino? He just isn’t a Milan player - simple as that. His lack of technical quality just doesn’t suit the Rossoneri. He is not on the same wavelength as the likes of Kaka, Seedorf and Pirlo.
Substitutes: Ronaldo - 6, Oddo – 4.5, Gourcuff - NA
What they are saying about Gilardino here is what I have been saying since the first day he came. A 20 million euro loss. The guy doesn't fit the Milan mold. I don't care if he's on the team but he is not a first choice. just watching this guy game in and game out is the most boring display from a forward in any major team. He just stands there just trips over himself. Our squad tactically needs a top forward upfront. We said Torres but No we have Gilardino. What about Ibrahamovic? No we have Gilardino. What about Van Nistelroy? No we have Gilardino. What about Luca Toni? No we have Gilardino.
Pato is still young but he did have little flashes of quality out there today. I still think he works better with a Ronaldo than a player like Gilardino. Gilardino is standing there waiting to get the perfect pass. Pato and Ronaldo are finding creative ways to work together to break apart defenses.
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jan 24 2008, 04:58 AM
Because nobody can judge how good a player will be in a new team. I presume we bought him as he was young, Italian and did very well at Parma.
We could have signed Torres and he failed miserabley, you just don't know these things. Look at Chelsea, they bought arguabley the best striker in Europe, and he's been a waste of time.
Posted by: bigmacmtl Jan 24 2008, 05:13 AM
We could have signed Torres and he failed miserabley, you just don't know these things. Look at Chelsea, they bought arguabley the best striker in Europe, and he's been a waste of time.
agreed.
when he was at parma he looked as good as pippo in his prime but with much better technique. the guy was scoring over ahead kicks! i remeber watching this amazing game were he scored parmas 4 goals and they won 4-3.
Posted by: jbryant1 Jan 24 2008, 05:14 AM
We could have signed Torres and he failed miserabley, you just don't know these things. Look at Chelsea, they bought arguabley the best striker in Europe, and he's been a waste of time.
Scheva was a greater risk than Gilardino IMO but he has come through for Chelsea in various competitions. He hasn't been the Milan player that was but to go from Italy to the Prem is a big leap tactically and the fact that you don't get the space that you would in Serie A he has struggled to perform. Plus he's 30+ and the prem is the fastest moving league out there its none stop up and down the pitch. This is what I saw when I was at Stamford Bridge watching him go forward.
The issue with Milan and Gilardino is not really taking the original risk which sure anyone might fail, but leaning of bending knee praying that Gilardino is magically going to come around and play like he did in Parma. Its the continued confidence that he is going to come around. Again as I said in the previous post its not that he should not be on the team but he should not be one of our main go to guys for goals unless he earns it. With most teams you perform = your a first choice to play. With Gilardino its we have faith that you will eventually perform = you play regardless if you don't perform because we have faith in you. And really in other words we don't want to look stupid that we invested 20 million euros in you and were wrong. ANy other club would have gotten rid of this guy a long time ago.
Posted by: arivanjj Jan 24 2008, 05:54 AM
great post and couldn't agree more. but you have to know that it's this system of "faith in our players" that has played a big part in the Milan success in past 2 decades and of course every system had it's down turns and Gila has been a down turn. now the management are as usual gonna try to get the best of him... but like you said sooner or later the player has to realize that he can't perform in this team.
Posted by: aLbErTo Jan 24 2008, 07:10 AM
that is sad, bonera who is a CB can give us better cross then oddo RB...but that doesn't mean he's good at crossing...it's like 1 of 5(bonera) against 1 of 10(oddo)...
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 24 2008, 09:54 AM
It isn't a matter of either/or ... Sure there is a possibility of missing out on the final and 4th place; which would ultimately cause havoc amongst both the San Siro crowd and the Milan dressing room. Not only that, it might even lead to the end of this current cycle of Milan, whatever goes up must come down.
What Milan accomplished last season was something beyond normal. It was Milan against the world, and at times against it's own fans !
Can it happen again ? Sure it can, we'll see .. The odds are stacking up just like they did last season
p.s. But if this same performance continues, then 4th place is not possible. But the CL, I believe Milan can do it (it's for Paolo afterall) and no team holds Milan's current record in that tournament.
The most important thing is to be able to play in the CL next season. I'm optimistic we can do it one way or another, or at least I'm trying to be optimistic.
I think this cycle will come to an end no matter what happens. of course it's more likely to happen if we don't win the CL and don't finish in top four!!
This season we are crap but it doesn't scare me so much. I still think we will reach 4th place. The thing is that our future looks black!! We need like 10 players in order to be able to compete for the c'ship next season and that means 14 players should come in considering that some will flop... It's just not possible. And that is sad cause in my view, it means that we won't be able to compete for the scudetto the next season for sure and maybe not even the one after that!
That's when you can bring a few new players each transfer window and you don't, because you think you are good as you are...! I don't think we need 10 new players though, imo five world-class players will do [CB, RB, LB, GK, FW], but of course the more the better...
It's time for us to break the bank after two/three dreadful transfer windows where we almost did nothing positive [aside from signing Pato].
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 24 2008, 10:15 AM
I think this cycle will come to an end no matter what happens. of course it's more likely to happen if we don't win the CL and don't finish in top four!!
The cycle ends, when Milan finishes in the UEFA spot and doesn't reach Moscow. Meaning Ancelotti is out the door, the team will break up, and who knows what the next coach will do ... i.e. Risky.
But in all honesty, Milan will reach Moscow as it will reach 4th place. It's a no brainier really.
And Moscow ... As time passes by I think the team is even more motivated to make emends for the lost momentum in the league. Trying to be optimistic wont solve anything
It is bound to happen
Posted by: redbabies Jan 24 2008, 10:26 AM
To be honest, what worries me more than this defeat is the form of Pato.
He was amazing the in debut, but in the last 2 matches he never did a single good pass, drible, or any other move that is worth mentioning.
I dont wanna critisize him since he's so young and have more than a decade in front of him but he didn't show a single good thing in the last 2 matches. I'm more worried about his form reather than about that missed oppurtunity, which also happened exaclty to R99 in his debut or 2nd match for Milan last season - it can happen to anyone, not a big deal!!!
I just hope he becomes more of a S7, coz I fear the O7 a lot!
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 24 2008, 10:26 AM
But in all honesty, Milan will reach Moscow as it will reach 4th place. It's a no brainier really.
And Moscow ... As time passes by I think the team is even more motivated to make emends for the lost momentum in the league. Trying to be optimistic wont solve anything
It is bound to happen I gotta make a confession.
I prefer we play like this in the league but win the CL every season until we surpass Real's record
! then focus on the league. because no matter how crappy you are in the league, if you win the CL, you'll still be considered the best; because you have conquered the whole Europe, not just Italy, and that's why Inter suck! it's not possible to be a real contender in both at the same time. especially for Milan with lots of old players and a thin squad.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 24 2008, 10:26 AM
DP.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 24 2008, 10:54 AM
Well, I never really expected Milan to be consistent in the league. I knew from the start of the campaign that this is the road Milan will take, and that the team will focus on the CWC and the CL.
But the thing that irritates me is the way Milan played in the 2nd half. I have never seen Milan like this before (if it was a coppa match I'd understand) ... That 2nd half, I really have no words.
About ur confession ... The board want that too. Silvio Berlusconi wants this team to be recognized around the world and europe. Now that it is #1 in the world, the only way to keep that spot is to win in europe. Let's get the 8th, then we'll talk about Real
Posted by: kurtsimonw Jan 24 2008, 12:02 PM
I'm sure many people would take you up on this bet. You say we WILL reach the European Cup Final AND finish in the top 4? I don't see how you're so confident about that.
Posted by: zdrossoneri Jan 24 2008, 12:23 PM
I'm sure many people would take you up on this bet. You say we WILL reach the European Cup Final AND finish in the top 4? I don't see how you're so confident about that.
Maybe because nobody expected us to finish in top 4 in the league AND win the CL last season...
Compared to last season we are not at any disadvantages imo. especially in attack we have Ronaldo [and Pato]...
Posted by: dst Jan 24 2008, 03:16 PM
Oh it is possible. Of course not with one good XI and crappy substitutes... Milan never were going to win this current title race not because we did not want to but because we couldn't! The management did not want to spend money for whatever reason yet they know that this squad cannot win the scudetto. They were never going to exhaust the team in the title race... CL was all we could win this season and we knew this from day one. It's just sad that they let Milan become a one-competition team.
Posted by: Rossoneri7 Jan 24 2008, 05:25 PM
I'm sure many people would take you up on this bet. You say we WILL reach the European Cup Final AND finish in the top 4? I don't see how you're so confident about that.
U don't need to
Posted by: Portikins Jan 24 2008, 10:44 PM
I prefer we play like this in the league but win the CL every season until we surpass Real's record
! then focus on the league. because no matter how crappy you are in the league, if you win the CL, you'll still be considered the best; because you have conquered the whole Europe, not just Italy, and that's why Inter suck! it's not possible to be a real contender in both at the same time. especially for Milan with lots of old players and a thin squad.I'd prefer the Serie A title to the CL one at this moment. I truly miss that italian badge in our shirt.
And I honestly think that no team will ever surpass Real Madrid in CL titles.
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