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post Jul 29 2019, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 28 2019, 11:04 PM) *
I gave up long ago on these pre-season matches. I somehow came to the conclusion that you can learn little about the true quality of the team from them.


Correct. I learned this from Rangers - promising pre-seasons then league action a completely different animal. Serie A is similar - a far different beast to a friendly.
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post Jul 29 2019, 04:52 PM
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So leao (30m) and durate (11m) both being quoted as a 41 m deal. We raised 18 from curtone.

Can't say anything how this will end up. For leao the 30m is highly risky especially considering how bad experience we had with silva.
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post Jul 29 2019, 07:06 PM
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Leao a far better player to Silva, and a better prospect. 10 goals/asists in 24 in France at age 20 for the second top team to PSG only is a fair chunk better than anything you can do in Portugal. Whether he has the mental strength to deliver in our shirt is the real question, but I wouldn't compare to Silva.

This is a signing I'm happy with.
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post Jul 30 2019, 03:32 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 28 2019, 07:18 PM) *
You want stability and experience, but at what cost do you intend to achieve that? Did you forget we just got kicked from Europe because we amassed a ridiculous 126M loss for 2018/19?

We need a fresh start, with young and relatively inexpensive players. Unless you want to splash a fortune for the likes of Bale, James Rodriguez and friends in order to get that stability and experience you strive for.

This is the best we can afford right now, and given the circumstances, I think Maldini and Boban are doing a pretty good job thus far.

Indeed.

The current strategy is risky, no question there. OTOH, I am not sure we have much of a choice. We cannot buy "proven players", cannot afford most of them (as we have to play by FFP rules). The only "proven players" we can afford are the ones that are struggling (Bale and James fall in that category, IMHO), and (based on past experience) that approach is not going to guarantee success (think Bonucci and Higuain). So we need to go for the ones that have potential (and hope they do not turn into flops). Need to go for youth (so if they do well they will have resale value). It is what other Serie A teams have been doing, including successful ones (think Napoli). And it will take time (took Napoli a few years before they started competing at the top of Serie A).

Giampaolo is consistent with the strategy, and we are banking on his ability to build player value (which he has done before). But, yes, he is "unproven", which means he is a risk, and that may mean we do not make the 4th CL spot.

And yes, so far I also believe M&B are doing a decent job.

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post Jul 30 2019, 03:33 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 28 2019, 09:47 PM) *
You make a good point and I'd agree, had we not just spent 30m on a Portuguese kid who only had a singl good season in the French league.

Sadly, by today standards 30M is not that much

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post Jul 30 2019, 03:43 AM
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Gianluigi Donnarumma: Even though this is just a preseason game Gigio was spectacular. During multiple points in the match he faced an attacker 1 on 1 and he stopped them each time. Gigio looked in mid season form as he bailed out Milan from a few mistakes on defence. 7.5/10

Davide Calabria: The starting right back job seems like Calabria’s to lose at this point. However he could use some work on offence. Defensively he is solid but his pace going forward might be a problem in such a narrow formation. 6/10

Matteo Musacchio: Well new year same mediocre Musacchio. Musacchio per usual is average, he’ll make a good play then give the ball away in the next possession. This is preseason still so hey maybe he can still improve under Giampaolo. 6/10

Alessio Romagnoli: To counter act Musacchio and his mediocrity Giampaolo put him next to a brick wall. Romagnoli is always solid as he basically gives me no material to write about. It was interesting to note that it seems that Giampaolo wants Alessio to be more of a distributor on the back line 7/10

Ricardo Rodriguez: After what I saw what Theo Hernandez did in the last match it is hard to compare Rodriguez to him. Rodriguez is solid but he lacks the pace to contribute on offence. Against Bayern Hernandez made forward runs all by his lonesome but Rodriguez is just incapable of doing so. 6.5/10

Fabio Borini: Borini as a midfielder, well I still don't like it but it’s the preseason so why not experiment a bit. Borini like always is the hardest worker on the pitch but his performances on the Milan social media accounts are better than his performances on the pitch. 6/10

Lucas Biglia: Aside from a marvellous free kick that struck the cross bar Biglia was subpar. In possession he takes his time and might not get rid of the ball quick enough for this system. Not to mention he was the one who gave away the ball that led to the Benfica goal 5/10

Hakan Calhanoglu: Hakan playing in a more natural position has improved his play for sure but he continues to insist on taking long shots. Doubt he would in the starting eleven at the start of the year barring any injuries. 6/10

Suso: If Silvio Berlusconi saw this lineup it would have brought a smile to his face because Suso finally played as an attacking midfielder. Surprisingly he fit the role and played good passes to the strikers to create scoring chances. 6.5/10

Samu Castillejo: Another chance for Castillejo to prove that he is able to play as a second striker and another chance possibly blown. A number of times Castillejo had an opportunity to score and on every chance he failed to capitalize. 6/10

Krzysztof Piatek: For the second straight game Piatek didn't get much service. Only really getting one opportunity to put the ball in the net and he failed to do so. 5.5/10

SUBSTITUTES
Pepe Reina: Coming on at the start of the second half Reina put in solid minutes as usual. However I'm not really sure why Reina is getting this time and why youngster Alessandro Plizzari doesn't see any time on the field. 6/10

Andrea Conti: Giving another opportunity to prove that he is back from his countless injuries. It is apparent that Conti just isn't there yet and it might take him more time to get back to playing regularly. 5.5/10

Matteo Gabbia: After last match’s great performance I felt that Gabbia should have been given the opportunity to start. Gabbia came in a did his job, it would be nice to see him next to Romagnoli in the next match. 6/10

Rade Krunic: A debut for the newest Rossoneri. Krunic wasn't given much time to incorporate himself into that match and didn't make much of an impact. It would have been nice to see more of Krunic and maybe even put him in the starting eleven in place of Fabio Borini. 6/10

Ivan Strinic: Well it looks like Ivan Strinic should be the odd man out at the left back position. To be completely frank he just doesn't have it and Milan should took to ship him off. 5/10

Marco Brescianini: N/A

Daniel Maldini: N/A

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post Jul 30 2019, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jul 29 2019, 04:52 PM) *
So leao (30m) and durate (11m) both being quoted as a 41 m deal. We raised 18 from curtone.

Can't say anything how this will end up. For leao the 30m is highly risky especially considering how bad experience we had with silva.


Skeptical about Leao, but we just have to have faith in Boban and Maldini. They're very good football conoseurs, especially Boban, who apparently was the one who wanted him.
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post Jul 30 2019, 10:36 AM
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so assuming that we get correa after leao and durate, we should then look to sell silva and wingers (castillejo or suso) and try to get some quality midfielder

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post Jul 30 2019, 10:47 AM
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I've heard Suso impressed as trequartista against Benfica, yes?

My priority for selling:
- Silva
- Kessie
- Castillejo
- Biglia
- Strinić (is he a Milan player?)

And well... I hate to say it but I'm so unconfortable with our fullbacks right now. Calabria is mediocre and is a ideal backup. Conti is a question mark and this could be his last shot. Hernandez I don't know, Rodriguez on the other hand should be played as CB and nothing else.
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post Jul 30 2019, 11:12 AM
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strinic should be our player i think he even played one of the friendlies. Regarding suso we have his contract issues as well, i doubt they will get any better now considering that we now offer a lower salary then before.

for fullbacks it is definitely a hit or miss. Hernandez i believe is injured as well.

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post Jul 30 2019, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jul 30 2019, 10:36 AM) *
so assuming that we get correa after leao and durate, we should then look to sell silva and wingers (castillejo or suso) and try to get some quality midfielder


I don't think we'll sign Correa if we get Leao.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 30 2019, 10:47 AM) *
I've heard Suso impressed as trequartista against Benfica, yes?

My priority for selling:
- Silva
- Kessie
- Castillejo
- Biglia
- Strinić (is he a Milan player?)

And well... I hate to say it but I'm so unconfortable with our fullbacks right now. Calabria is mediocre and is a ideal backup. Conti is a question mark and this could be his last shot. Hernandez I don't know, Rodriguez on the other hand should be played as CB and nothing else.


Hernandez impressed a lot before he left injured vs Bayern, no? And here's to hoping this is Conti's year.

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jul 30 2019, 11:12 AM) *
strinic should be our player i think he even played one of the friendlies. Regarding suso we have his contract issues as well, i doubt they will get any better now considering that we now offer a lower salary then before.

for fullbacks it is definitely a hit or miss. Hernandez i believe is injured as well.


Strinic shouldn't be considered. He was garbage before his heart problems, imagine now after one year of inactivity.

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Starting line-up thus far:

Donnarumma
Conti - Musacchio - Romagnoli - Theo
Kessie - Bennacer - Paqueta
Suso/Hakan
Leao - Piatek


Thoughts?
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post Jul 30 2019, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 30 2019, 02:41 PM) *
Starting line-up thus far:

Donnarumma
Conti - Musacchio - Romagnoli - Theo
Kessie - Bennacer - Paqueta
Suso/Hakan
Leao - Piatek


Thoughts?


First thing is that the oldest player is Musacchio who is 28 i believe. rest are all 25 or less. So a very young team. The defense and mid is somewhat same as last year ( in terms of overall quality/expectations). For attack (top-3) we need Piatek to be on form and hopefully Leao and Suso/Hakan to play a true trequista role. Although i believe the most ideal player behind the strikers would be Paqueta
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post Jul 30 2019, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jul 30 2019, 05:40 PM) *
Although i believe the most ideal player behind the strikers would be Paqueta


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kooNKyCR35c

His past at Flamengo and his games with us last season are a clear indicator that Paqueta is no trequartista. But I could be proven wrong.
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post Jul 31 2019, 10:17 AM
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I think expecting Leao and Bennacer to be immediate starters is a pipe dream. Especially counting on Leao to be a starter seems to me naive: the kid scored 8 goals and made 2 assists, he must adapt to the system and we must se if he can pull off a SS. I think he's mainly here because he's young and because we wanted a 2 in 1 striker who could pull off both positions. If we don't sign Correa our attack is insufficient.

As for Bennacer, we shall see. Much praise for the kid makes me hope he'll turn out good. But expecting him to fill Bakayoko's position immediately isn't realistic. It will be either Biglia starting, or (I hope) we manage to ship Biglia off to Genoa and sign a experienced organizer.

You got me wrong back few days ago. When I said Milan must sign experienced players I wasn't thinking about Ronaldo or Bale who are unattractable. Nor did I mean has-beens like Higuain. I meant the thing Monaco did by signing experienced and intelligent players like Moutinho or Falcao. We need those kind of players (not them specifically because they are now too old). Because starting Serie A with a team full of kids and question marks and having a coach with zero experience at big clubs is a sure recipe for disaster. Especially now that the calendar is set and we can expect things heating up immensely around November.
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