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Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 4 2007, 03:45 AM

I can't believe I couldn't find a thread for him.
This guy works his @ss off for us and play and important part in every game he plays.

I thought he was superb against Bayern today, I'd give him MotM, work hard, won plenty of challenges and didn't make a mistake, top job.

Posted by: misha Apr 4 2007, 04:02 AM

He played good, but he could have clear the ball just before Van Buyten scored the second goal

Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 4 2007, 04:11 AM

Mishale's going to make me cry.

Posted by: dst Apr 4 2007, 01:58 PM

He's a good player. The "blond angel"

Posted by: Portikins Apr 4 2007, 02:39 PM

He was sh1t yesterday. 2nd goal was his mistake - what a fckin' poor defending on the play.
Of course little Kaladze was on the play too.

Sell them and buy real men.

Posted by: Warchant Apr 4 2007, 04:22 PM

couldn't have said it better

Posted by: dst Apr 4 2007, 07:37 PM

IMO he's a very good sub!

Posted by: Portikins Apr 4 2007, 10:00 PM

I agree. A very good sub for a team like Siena.

Posted by: misha Apr 4 2007, 10:15 PM

He isn't that bad.

He was very unlucky with all the injuries he had through his career but it's good to have him as a cover

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 4 2007, 10:24 PM

True .. And had he scored last night, I'm sure no one would have even attempted to condemn or deem him unworthy. He has given a lot to Milan and he deserves his place in this team.

He is a real tifosi and plays with heart for the team. Maybe he isn't at full fitness, maybe it was Carlo's tactics .. He did his job and one mistake shouldn't overshadow his whole career or even a match !

Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 5 2007, 02:47 PM

Ambro scores some valuable goals. We wouldn't have made the CL final the other year if it wasn't for him. Or get into the CL for next year - CRUCIAL goal vs Atalanta.

P.S. Nesta was marking Van Buyten for set-plays. So it was Nesta's poor marking.

Posted by: Captain Ambro Apr 8 2007, 03:53 PM

Real men? That's just cold blooded ignorance!

He was probably the best player on the pitch, and it was definitely not his fault that Bayern scored their last goal.
And if you want to call Ambro a bad player, even if that in its sense is terribly wrong, that's fine with me. But no one works like him for the team and no one has ever showed so much love to his club like Ambro. If anything, he's a real man. Perhaps you should take a look at yourself in the mirror...

Posted by: nuh Apr 8 2007, 05:53 PM

yup ur totaly right i have hade it with people saying ambro is a bad player him and kala but come on they are gr8 okay some times they mightnot have good games but they both try fight sweat and tear for this team i know i would never want them to leave

Posted by: dst Apr 8 2007, 06:29 PM

Ambro is a great player to come off the bench for Milan.

Kaladze would make a great punching bag!

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 8 2007, 06:38 PM

Milan is one of the few teams Max would have to sit on the bench for. I know for a fact that Arsenal would be much better off having Max on their line-up playing alongside Cesc. Arsenal definitely need a few Italians with balls in their squad.

Posted by: dst Apr 8 2007, 06:43 PM

Portugal thinks Ambrosini is not good enough for Milan but at the same time he wants R20 to join us so that Massimo can't stay forever!

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 8 2007, 06:51 PM

Hmmpf....and who'd he recommend we bring in besides? Flamini?..no I guess knowing him it would be Petit. And he'd tell us how Petit owned the great Zidane in the WC.

Posted by: Tennie May 12 2007, 02:55 AM

AMBROSINI: COMUNICATO A.C.MILAN
11/05/2007
MILANO - Il Milan comunica di aver prolungato il contratto che lega il calciatore Massimo Ambrosini alla società rossonera, fino al 30 giugno 2010.

[Milan announces that it has renewed Massimo Ambrosini's contract to June 30, 2010.]

Posted by: misha May 17 2007, 08:09 PM

Ambrosini ready for action

Milan midfielder Massimo Ambrosini is looking forward to the Champions League Final with Liverpool after missing out in 2005.

The Rossoneri will face the Reds in Athens on May 23 in a repeat of the incredible match two year’s ago, when the Premiership side overturned a 3-0 half-time deficit to win on penalties.

Ambrosini was ruled out of that tie after he picked up a thigh injury in a Serie A match and can’t wait to grab his second chance with both hands.

“Life is strange because it doesn’t always give you a second opportunity,” the Rossonero told uefa.com.

“I am delighted about this and we must all be ready to face Liverpool, who took the Cup away from us two years ago,” added the 29-year-old, who recently extended his deal with the San Siro outfit until 2010.

“Football is incredible sometimes and it showed just how true that is in that match.

“Even if we had had 10 defenders on the pitch during those 10 minutes of madness it wouldn't have made any difference.”

Ambrosini believes Liverpool are even stronger than the last time they met and mainly fears Steven Gerrard, although he looks forward to his duel with the English international.

“In my opinion he is unquestionably the best right now,” explained the midfielder, who has seemed rejuvenated for Milan this season.

“It is great for me to be able to play against him and to do so in the Final of a Champions League makes it even more exciting,” concluded the Rossonero.

Milan, who have been crowned European champions on six occasions, won their last Champions League Final in 2003, when they defeated Juventus 3-2 on penalties at Old Trafford.

Posted by: Tennie May 29 2007, 08:53 PM

Happy birthday!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY AMBRO!
5/29/2007
MILAN – Happy Birthday Massimo Ambrosini! Today marks the Rossoneri champion’s 30th birthday. After the injuries of recent years, he has thrown himself right back into the mix to prove once again that he is as good as they come. Today, Massimo can be quite happy as he celebrates his birthday with Milan from the Azzurri Italian national side. Best wishes to Ambrosini on this special day from the entire Rossoneri family!

Posted by: amancik May 29 2007, 08:54 PM

My goodness, Happy Birthday Ambrosini!
Forza Champion!

Posted by: KillerMax May 29 2007, 08:56 PM

Happy Birthday Massimo!

Posted by: misha May 29 2007, 08:57 PM

Happy Birthday Ambro!!!

Hope never to see you injured again.

Posted by: kurtsimonw May 29 2007, 11:48 PM

Happy birthday Ambro!

Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 6 2008, 06:11 PM

This thread gets no love

On another note i am happy that he hasnt had any serious injuries this season

Posted by: Tennie May 6 2008, 06:19 PM

I'd have to look for an accompanying picture (which I can do when I get home), but Max has a new girlfriend. I believe she's a university student.

Posted by: Bluesummers May 6 2008, 08:18 PM

i hope she isn't 18.

Posted by: Locke Lamora May 6 2008, 08:46 PM

Yes

Posted by: Tennie May 7 2008, 12:35 AM

Here's Ambro with his girlfriend, who is a university student in Milan.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow May 8 2008, 10:39 AM

I'm definitely going to do my post grad in Milan.

F2ck you Harvard, Wharton, MIT, INSEAD, IMD. Hallloooo Milan!!

Posted by: morgoth May 8 2008, 01:44 PM

I wonder what was Ambro doing around the university instead of working on his tackles?

Posted by: morgoth May 29 2008, 12:56 AM

Forza Ambro

Posted by: Tennie May 29 2008, 02:00 PM

BUON COMPLEANNO MASSIMO!
29/05/2008
MILANO - Compleanno in casa rossonera: tantissimi affettuosi auguri al centrocampista del Milan e della nazionale azzurra Massimo Ambrosini che, nato il 29 maggio 1977, spegne oggi 31 candeline. Da tutti i cuori rossoneri, buon compleanno Massimo!

Happy Birthday, Massimo!

Posted by: whoarethepatriots May 29 2008, 02:25 PM

Happy Birthday Captain Ambro

Posted by: rhy_A4 May 29 2008, 03:43 PM

Happy Birthday Massimo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: zdrossoneri Aug 2 2008, 05:39 PM

Posted by: nuh Aug 2 2008, 06:13 PM

i think he would make a gd central defender

Posted by: acid911 Aug 2 2008, 07:41 PM

Me thinks too. Anything to make him useful, as Porty would say.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 4 2008, 08:13 AM

He'd require a lot of work to be a good CB. It's possible, just not reliable.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Aug 4 2008, 08:30 AM

Yeah, I think we can use him in this new role, only if time is not precious for us.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 4 2008, 08:34 AM

I'd take Ambro as CB, only if we were spending to buy a new goal poacher. Paloschi looks like his beginner's luck has run out.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Aug 4 2008, 08:47 AM

Maybe the boy can't handle the pressure of being a regular starter?... that's exactly what he's become these days, even if these are only friendlies...

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Aug 4 2008, 02:39 PM

Ambro as a CB ? hmm now that would be interesting .. I mean he is tall and strong, plus he is very brave in that u see him lunging into challenges; I would love to see him get a chance. Who knows, he might be good at it.


And Paloschi ... I don't think he is gonna create fireworks. He should just take his time and work hard .. By the time the season starts, Carlo will have something worked out for the minor problems upfront.

Posted by: Jako19 Aug 4 2008, 02:47 PM

I can see Ambro as a CB. Galliani said were done in the transfer market, so might as well give him a try in preseason. Hes ballzy strong, and good in the air, he could be unreliable tho

Posted by: GrinReaper Aug 4 2008, 04:30 PM

A much better option than making him play as a striker

And that way all the available defensive mids we have with the exception of Brocchi and Emerson can get a place in the starting line-up. So we won't have to bench one of Gattuso or Flamini or Ambrosini.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Aug 4 2008, 04:33 PM

Couldn't agree more. I'd rather he plays in defense than in attack. he can't be worse than Kaladze, can he?


Interesting point.

Posted by: Tennie Nov 2 2008, 06:34 PM

So, Ambro has been busy.

Mediaset reports that he and his girlfriend Paola (who is a university student in Milan) are expecting a child in June.

Posted by: zdrossoneri Nov 2 2008, 06:40 PM

Ooh la la!

She looks beautiful!

Posted by: Tennie Nov 2 2008, 06:43 PM

The gossip papers don't quite know what to think of this, from what I can gather. Ambro had had a long-term relationship with a previous girlfriend (lasting 5-6 years). They broke up and then six months later, he started going out with this university student. Footballers don't normally date university students in Milan, where there are lots and lots of models.

I hope the two are happy and that the baby is also happy and healthy.

Posted by: Darunia Nov 2 2008, 06:55 PM

Hah Ambro is wearing a UNC sweatshirt. She's cute btw

Posted by: Tennie Nov 2 2008, 06:59 PM

(He should be wearing a Georgetown sweatshirt, darnit!)

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Nov 2 2008, 07:38 PM

Nice!
Hooray for Ambro!

Posted by: acid911 Nov 2 2008, 08:22 PM

Good girl. She reminds me both of Paolo and Pola. No one's ever done that before!


Baby? As in? Weren't they expecting a baby in June? Or is it June already! Oh, my!

Posted by: PatitoFeo Nov 3 2008, 03:34 PM

I always thought Ambro would be a Duke fan

No but good for him to 1) Have a long relationship before, and 2) not date a model. I'm glad he is thinking with his head (the big one), although she is a looker

Posted by: Rivaldo Nov 6 2008, 06:00 PM

I trully love Ambro as one of Milan players with the most strong charisma after Paolo. A love him as our next Il Capitano and I hope everything will be Ok in his life

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Nov 6 2008, 06:22 PM

I have to confess...
I never used to like Ambro a few good seasons ago, even though he would win us games now and again with those timely headers.
Its only recently, over the past couple of seasons that he has been mostly injury free and has been playing regularly that he has begun to grow onto me, and I now see him now as a very useful player.

I even once denoted him as our worst player
...But that was in the past!!!

Posted by: dst Jan 9 2009, 03:34 PM

When does Ambro's contract run out? I heard some time ago that Milan are not so keen on renewing it, I hope it's bull cause it'd be a shame!

Posted by: Tennie Jan 9 2009, 03:56 PM

Ambro's contract is through 2010.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Jan 9 2009, 03:57 PM

I think he renewed till 2010, so he will probably get an extension at the end of the season. Ambro not recieving an extended contract would be a slap in the especially after Maldini got countless extensions, and someone like Dida got an extension, even though was left to die on the bench from that point onwards

Posted by: Zed.D Jan 9 2009, 03:59 PM

Ambro is not charismatic IMO. he easily loses his temper after every small incident... I think he doesn't have what it takes to be a real captain like Maldini. but of course he will be our next captain since he's the most senior player in the team.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Jan 9 2009, 04:08 PM

Agreed he wont be a captain in the Maldini mould (cool, calm collected) however he sets an example to others. He is an incredibly hard worker and never gives up, plus he probably controls a fair share of the dressing room and is very highly respected

Posted by: Zed.D Jan 9 2009, 04:13 PM

I completely agree with the bold part.

Posted by: MizNelson Apr 12 2009, 11:37 PM

Massimo Ambrosini Kept Waiting For New Milan Contract
Ambrosini admitted that his future is uncertain as his contract will expire in 2010 and no-one from the Rossoneri’s directors has called him up to start negotiating a new deal...

Milan midfielder Massimo Ambrosini wants to extend his stay at the club, but so far he has not received any signs from the directors.

His contract will come to an end next year, therefore if he is not offered a new deal by this summer, he will have the opportunity to leave the club on a free transfer in 2010, even though his desire is that of ending his career with the Rossoneri.

"I have a contract which expires in 2010," affirmed the veteran player to Eurosport.

"I hope that sooner or later, someone from the club calls me up.

"I will put my will to remain, but we must always be in two to do things, therefore..."

Bar one season on loan at Vicenza in 1997/98, Ambrosini has been at Milan since 1995 where he has played a total of 247 league games and scored 22 goals for his team.

(Goal.com)

Posted by: Tennie Apr 12 2009, 11:43 PM

Gosh. Fishdoll's almost tempted to give goal.com a cookie. They translated something accurately.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=147006 to article on tuttomercatoweb.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 12 2009, 11:46 PM

If Ambrosini is not given a new contract, i will shoot every single person associated with AC Milan

Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 13 2009, 05:22 AM

why? He's 32 next month... You want him here until 40?

Posted by: Tennie Apr 13 2009, 12:07 PM

I agree with whoarethepatriots. Ambro should be given an extension.

Posted by: Ry4n Apr 13 2009, 12:58 PM

+1 hope he extends soon !!!

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 13 2009, 01:03 PM

I agree too.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 13 2009, 01:08 PM

We need a player like him, no question. In Italy, not many reach his level (for the job he does). Also, he's now our future captain, and the one with the most Milan time.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 13 2009, 01:39 PM

I think he will get an extension soon. With Paolo retiring, Milan needs a flag bearer a person who has written history with Milan.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 13 2009, 02:27 PM

Exactly. Our board wouldn't miss that out.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 13 2009, 04:09 PM

I hope not. They were very slow in offering him a contract last time round in 2007, supposedly he considered leaving for Fiorentina due to his lack of playing time, but once he was given a first team spot, he signed a new contract

Posted by: dst Apr 13 2009, 04:16 PM

He deserves an extension and is still a very good player. I cannot imagine Milan not extending his contract.

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 13 2009, 07:58 PM

Doesn't his contract run out in the 2010 summer? I mean, why so much rush?

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 17 2009, 08:20 PM

Ambro agent welcomes Napoli talk[/b]

The agent of Milan midfielder Massimo Ambrosini has refused to rule out a transfer to Napoli.

Ambrosini is still waiting on a contract offer to extend his current deal, which expires in 2010.

Milan are expected to make some sweeping changes to their squad this summer and Ambrosini could be one of the men making way as recent reports suggest that Napoli are ready to pounce.

“Anything is possible for Massimo,” representative Moreno Roggi said on Radio Kiss Kiss.

“All doors are open, but I do think it is unlikely that he will be leaving Milan because he has another year on his contract.

“It's nice to hear talk of Napoli - the more talk the better - but that isn't a possibility right now.

“However, Napoli are a great club and Ambrosini is a great player - so why not?”

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/apr17k.html

IMO if they were to offer £5m they can have him.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 17 2009, 08:23 PM

Exactly. We have too many older players and need to trim the squad down. Get some quality younger players in with something to prove.

Posted by: Tennie Apr 17 2009, 08:34 PM

Disagree with you guys who want to ditch Ambro. Course, I'm one of those crazy people who thinks he's better than Flamini.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 17 2009, 08:38 PM

Okay, let's arrange a planned exodus for all above 29 year old players. Let's buy 13 year old talents!

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 17 2009, 09:33 PM

At least we'd have some hunger back in the side, something we drastically seem to be missing with all the 'over 29 yo's' we have.

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 17 2009, 10:02 PM

Let's be fair here, being old doesn't necessarily mean one is not motivated or hungry anymore. (remember Nedved when Juve played in the CL?)

Having too many winners and champions is the real reason for the lack of motivation IMO.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 17 2009, 10:10 PM

Not many young players have 'won it all' though. We have too many players who have won it all and have lost their hunger, to refresh the squad we need to be ruthless and not sentimental.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Apr 18 2009, 01:47 AM

In far too many matches over the last two years Ambrosini has been the only player to give a damn. He cannot be replaced on and off the pitch at the moment, and we are really gonna need him next year when Maldini has gone

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 18 2009, 06:41 AM

I perfectly understand what you mean. Ambro is not the problem though, as long as Seedorf stays at this clubs and starts week in week out

Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 18 2009, 08:06 AM

I mean sure extend his contract and all, but in reality he isn't going to be playing much with Flamini around. Thats why I said is there really a point to keeping him until he's 40?

Posted by: aLbErTo Apr 18 2009, 08:14 AM

haloo, ambro is our captain next year, or at least his 1st substitute, sure we have to extend his contract, he's in milan since 1995 so after maldini is gone, he'll be in first place for "how long in milan time..." or so i think )

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 18 2009, 08:30 AM

I personally prefer Flamini (when he's on form) to Ambro but come on, we need depth in the squad. if we let Ambro go we will have to look for a replacement and knowing the management, we won't sign players of Sissoko or Essien's caliber; we will sign another Emerson. do you want that?

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 18 2009, 02:02 PM

If we have any sense then Ricky will be our captain next season. Ambro, at best, can warm the bench.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 18 2009, 02:09 PM

Personally speaking I think he's a liability. I agree that he has scored some important goals and he has been at Milan since '95, but for the majority of the time he's been injured and hasn't really first choice and he is 32. I would probably offer him a 1 year extension and use him as a bench warmer.

Posted by: Tennie Apr 18 2009, 02:37 PM

Fishdoll and I agree with whoarethepatriots on this one.

I'll go personally a little further and repeat that I much prefer Ambro to Flamini.

Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 19 2009, 01:48 AM

Whats the point of cardaccio being at milan then? Is he just here for the fun of it?


I have no problem with Ambrosini staying, hes a symbol of milan and a great player.


If we get a new coach next year do you think any of these above 30 players are realistically going to play? If we have carlo for another year than sure. But if we get Rijkaard, it would just be a pointless move for their careers because logically they are not going to play.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 19 2009, 11:23 AM

I don't care, Ambrosini's next years captain and that speaks for itself.

Posted by: aLbErTo Apr 19 2009, 11:38 AM

he's one of our most consitent player, i think he always playes at same rate, trying his best, good in air, i dont know what all of you see as bad in him...i understand it for kaladze, but ambro, c'mon...wake up !!



if we have any sense, ambro, gattuso and pirlo will be infront of ricky for captaincy...

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 19 2009, 06:02 PM

Well if that is to be the case then it will be yet another backward step and will also show a real lack of ambition.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 19 2009, 06:52 PM

Lack of ambition? Backward step? He's our captain man! It's tradition!

Posted by: aLbErTo Apr 19 2009, 06:58 PM

lack of ambition would be keeping maldini and favalli as our main defenders...you're really missing the point here

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 19 2009, 07:31 PM

Sorry but i think you're missing the point. You would rather have a 32yo who has been constantly injured throughout his career, lacks technical ability, is a liability whenever he tries to tackle and hasn't been a first team regular over the third best player in the world! We need to be ruthless in our clearup and if that means goodbye to ambro then so be it. If he is to stay then it should be to warm the bench. That is the only way we are going to progress.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 19 2009, 07:34 PM

Our tradition recently has been to struggle to qualify for CL, I would rather a tradition of winning the Serie A and the only way we're going to do that is to give the younger players a chance to prove themselves.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 19 2009, 07:35 PM

You mean 1 season?

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 19 2009, 09:25 PM

No I mean the past few seasons, last season we didn't even qualify.

Posted by: gal_kenny Apr 19 2009, 09:29 PM

Guys why we arguing for who'll be next year's captain...Its Carlo that'll decide who'll be next yr's captain!!!

Posted by: aLbErTo Apr 19 2009, 09:35 PM

btw, the first and second best player in the world aren't captains in their clubs either...and you have to much against ambro, i would understand your concerns about a certain group of player who we all dislike, but i think there's not much people on your side on these one...he's not our problem, all other players know he's our 2nd captain, and gattuso is 3th, so when they are playing there is no chance kaka is gonna to be captain, it's not cause he doesn't deserve it, that's just the way it is...

AMBROSINI

GATTUSO


KAKA

are those charts enough big factor for you to think straight or is that just too much for you...cause then, i dont know why today maldini was captain, and not kaka, after all he has scored more goals then maldini, and win more fifa and uefa prizes...

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 19 2009, 09:40 PM

Lol lol and lol are you implying that Ambro and Rino are on the same level as Maldini

Dear Lord

And IIRC isn't Ronaldo captain of Portugal? Not sure about Messi but as he's only 21 or 22 he has time on his side

Edit: And according to you stats Ambro has played 208 times in 10 years = 20.8 games per season, Rino 264 times in 9 years = 29.3 games per season while Ricky has played 162 times in 5 years = 32.4 games per season so Ricky has statistically played more than the pair of them!

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 19 2009, 09:41 PM

We're debating who we think deserves the armband. And carlo might not be here next year

Posted by: aLbErTo Apr 19 2009, 09:43 PM

you see, you're not gettin what i'm saying...of course i'm implying ambro and rino are on the same level as maldini, not for their playing skills but for their existence at the club that puts them in front of other for captaincy...

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 19 2009, 09:53 PM

The time at club shouldn't even come into the equation, it is what is done on and off the pitch which counts IMO. Ricky is the perfect ambassador for the club, he carries himself excellently on and off the pitch and should rightly be offered the armband next year and for years to come.

Posted by: aLbErTo Apr 19 2009, 09:57 PM

that's all true...but the fact is that gattuso and ambro are maldini's replacements for years now and you just can't take the armband from them...i don't know, it just wouldn't be right in my opinion

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 19 2009, 10:04 PM

Personally speaking, I don't think we need both of them what we need in midfield is, like Ricky says, a Gerrard type midfielder - someone who can tackle, pass and play the ball. Rino hasn't played this season and I don't think we've missed him and Ambro is good enough for the subs bench.

Posted by: Tennie Apr 19 2009, 10:19 PM

Going to respectfully disagree with you on this, iross. Milan has never given the armband to whoever happens to be playing best unless that person ALSO has seniority. None of the Dutch trio were ever captain and two of them won the Ballon d'Or. Shevchenko was never captain. I personally think that going by the seniority principle is one of the things that makes Milan unique (and yes, I know other teams don't do it that way) and I'd like to keep it that way.

Going to also go out on a limb and disagree in part with the way Kaka conducts himself off the pitch. I don't like some of the comments he makes in the interviews he gives; if he has a problem with something at Milan (whether it be the medical staff, the transfer policy, the color of the dressing room, etc), I think it should be kept in house and not aired in public.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 19 2009, 10:50 PM

I agree that none of the Dutch were made captain, but IIRC we had Baresi as captain then and again Ambro is no Baresi. This is the time for a new era, a time to start again, this team is now too old to compete at the highest level and needs replacing. This should start by giving Ricky captaincy and getting young quality players in, that way we can start a new era.

As for Ricky saying things out of place, apart from the 'I've recuperated(sp?) quicker with brazil than Milan' I can't think of much else he has said. Thing is though it wasn't long ago that we were all shouting off about how great Milanlab was and how quick players recovered after using it, yet look at our injury list now? Something's definitely not right. He has also spoken of his desire to be captain of Milan and to lead us to more silverware and he has always said that he wants to stay at Milan as long as possible, to me that is what I want to hear

Posted by: Tennie Apr 19 2009, 11:24 PM

We actually agree about a fair bit in principle: the club needs refreshing - new quality players, preferably young. For this all round midfielder, I'd poach Cigarini from Atalanta (or one of the two kids from Juve who play in midfield if they'd be stupid enough let them go). Simon Kjaer looked good today for Palermo and he's just 19. Darmian did reasonably well in his run out today, etc etc etc.

The only real thing that we seem to disagree on is who should be captain after Maldini. And that's perhaps as it should be; this place would be dull if everyone agreed about everything.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 19 2009, 11:35 PM

You hit the nail on the head there

Posted by: aLbErTo Apr 20 2009, 07:34 AM

in case we do refresh our squad with lot's of young bloud, we'd still need someone with lot's of experience to be their captain...you have to understand that as long Ancelotti is our coach, we'll play the same style, with the same certain players, so midfiled is kind of reserved already for the next year... gattuso-pirlo-ambrosini, i'm sure this part ain't goning to change, and it doesn't really have to, our problems last 2-3 seasons were defence & attack, which i belive this summer is goning to change, at least defence...i'm sure sooner or later kaka will get armband, but we'll have to play without gattuso, ambrosini, pirlo, kaladze...that's just the policy we're running, which i like and you obviously don't

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 20 2009, 09:54 AM

if we keep the same midfield next season then we are already heading for trouble. We had that same midfield back in 2003 so that means we would have had the same midfield for 6 years! Thing is I think a lot of our problems stem from midfield. Our midfield is static now and the players play within their own comfort zone as they know carlo won't drop them - take Pirlo for example, for the Azzurri he doesn't stop running and looks a totally different player to the Pirlo who plays for us. I think part of our defence problem is down to our static midfield as well, although I do agree that we need at least one new top quality CB and possibly a fullback.

Posted by: aLbErTo Apr 20 2009, 10:12 AM

we may found a fullback in flamini... it's cheaper that way

Posted by: dst Apr 20 2009, 12:31 PM

Flamini does not want to play there. He was set to leave Arsenal earlier than last summer for that exact reason.

Posted by: aLbErTo Apr 20 2009, 12:38 PM

well be it, but i'd rather play a fullback then be a sub...

Posted by: Bluesummers Apr 21 2009, 06:18 AM

I agree with Iross on the captain issue and here is why.


The reason I support kaka for the armband is because he is our flag and symbol for this club after Maldini. When people think of Milan they think of two players, Maldini and Kaka. Furthermore, how many games a season do you guys honestly think gattuso and Ambrosini are going to partake in? Ambro is 32 and Gattuso is 31. With Flamini and the possible addition of a new midfielder and our desire to refresh our squad with giving youth an opportunity , players like gattuso/ambro/seedorf will be mostly subs. Thats why Kaka should be given the armband because he will be playing all games he is fit for, he is a leader and a symbol of our club on the pitch. Also i'm sure that he is the most valued member in our squad after Paolo.



How liverpool have gerrard, Kaka is the same for us. That is why I think he should be given the armband. But it's not going to happen as this club's policy is 20 years old and will not be changed because of one brazillian.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 21 2009, 06:55 AM

And I think it's already clear that in Milan ,the policy is not for the best / most visible player in the team to be captain. I'm not much in favour of altering a policy that's been here for too long.

In any case this is not cricket. The captain of the team doesn't have as much to do on the field as compared to off it. And I think this is where Ambro and Rino trump Kaka. The benefit of having been in the dressing room longer an having more people respecting them. Everyone might love Kaka, but how will they take it if he has to come down hard on one of them. We don't even know if he has that kind of personality. Even Alex Pato talked about how the bloke who's closest to him is Rino, and they're always having fun pulling his leg etc.

And I think we should really stop with his club captaincy thing because...

I nearly burst out laughing, it's hard to think of a bloke like Andrea Pirlo having influence, but I suppose his gravitas helps.

Anyway, why is it so important to have Kaka as captain. What difference does an armband make? MvB has never captained Milan. Do we think any less of him because of it? This is just another pointless argument-starter.

Posted by: dst Apr 21 2009, 09:24 AM

I totally agree with you on this but... you're the pirate for ****s sake you should be firing things up!!!

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 21 2009, 11:02 AM

I'm still glowing after my birthday....so... I'm all lovey-dovey for the week.

Posted by: aLbErTo Apr 21 2009, 12:21 PM

haha...firing only candles this week

Posted by: Tennie Apr 28 2009, 04:26 PM

Massimo Ambrosini married girlfriend Paola in Venice yesterday.

Congratulations to them both!

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 28 2009, 05:09 PM

You mean that hot girl he was spotted dating?

Posted by: Tennie Apr 28 2009, 06:53 PM

Yep!




They've been dating for nearly 2 years. And she's expecting little Federico in about a month.

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 28 2009, 07:22 PM

Federico Ambrosini! I like it

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 28 2009, 08:42 PM

Congratulations to ambro and his wife

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 29 2009, 08:37 AM

Blond Angel v2.

Posted by: Rivaldo Apr 29 2009, 01:05 PM

May be she is the secret of his superb form?))

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 30 2009, 03:36 PM

Not unexpected. you don't hit out at Mou and get away with it; he always has something up his sleeve. what he says here imo is true, even though he is overreacting a bit.

Posted by: Tennie Apr 30 2009, 04:07 PM

Actually no it isn't true. Ambro published a written apology on acmilan.com. Jose's lying through his teeth on this one. It never fails to amaze me why people admire someone who feels the need to insult and deride others to make themselves feel good.

EDIT:

http://www.milanfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4965

Discussion here of the event at the time.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 30 2009, 04:49 PM

That's true. Ambro did apologise. Jose is falling into the trap of twisting facts the way he sees it. In fact, what Ambro says wasn't remotely as 'confrontational' as what Silvio said. Silvio was basically accusing Inter of being cheats, while Ambro just said he would love to prove Jose wrong.

Forget it...I hope we tell Ambro to be quiet, and maintain a united front of 'We've got no chance to win!' thingie. Besides being really cool, it also has the benefit of taking pressure off the players while making Inter look stupid if we do win. I really wish Kaka and Ambro hadn't broken this protocol. Why does Kaka always say the wrong thing in the Brazillian press!!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Apr 30 2009, 05:35 PM

I love Ambro, but he's in the wrong here.

"Ambrosini was furious Mourinho had written off Milan earlier this year when he said they would finish 2009 with no silverware."

Jose is well within his right to say this, just as we are to say they will finish with no silverware. But at the moment, Jose is right, so why should he apologise? He's done nothing wrong, he's made a prediction which will come true within the next few weeks. You've started a war you can't win Ambro, great timing as well, give him more incentive to finish the season off properly.

Posted by: Tennie Apr 30 2009, 06:00 PM

The above quoted comment from Mourinho is a LIE. It's wrong and he's in the wrong for saying it. Full stop.

Posted by: Tennie Apr 30 2009, 06:15 PM

from the ticker on acmilan.com's italian page:

[I am astonished and saddened that Mourinho, usually precise in his verbal communication, could have with such superficiality commented on my statements of yesterday, which in tone and content did not in any way want to be polemics or provocations and I absolutely do not accept on the part of the man lessons in morality when, two days after the episode with the banner, I apologised to the players and fans of Inter, clearly demonstrating moral valuse that he, with little attention and poor knowledge of the facts, put in doubt.
Massimo Ambrosini]

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 30 2009, 06:43 PM

I really didn't remember Ambro had apologized for the banner and I still don't. Mourinho is an unaware idiot in this case ignore my previous post.

Posted by: dst Apr 30 2009, 09:09 PM

WOW that's... I just would not respond to this!

Posted by: vnata001 May 1 2009, 12:28 AM

i love it. ambro is a champ. spoken like a man truly worthy of captaincy.

Posted by: Rivaldo May 1 2009, 08:58 AM

Ambro our future Capitano! He is so confident.

Posted by: Rivaldo May 11 2009, 11:25 AM

My congratulations to Ambro!!! Tonight his son Federico was born!!

Posted by: Tennie May 11 2009, 11:37 AM

[This morning at 1.57 Federico Ambrosini was born in a Milan clinic; he weighed 2.7 kilos at birth. Best wishes to Signora Paola and to Ambro on the part of all the Milanisti and all calcio fans.]

Apparently Ambro went straight to the hospital from the stadium.

Welcome to little Federico!

Posted by: dst May 11 2009, 12:37 PM

Congrats! I wish him a healthy life.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone May 11 2009, 06:38 PM

That's probably the most important thing in his case, so, I'll just join with the same wish!

Posted by: Tennie May 12 2009, 01:45 AM

According to his agent, Ambro's contract renewal should be formalized fairly soon.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow May 12 2009, 05:02 AM

Like, it was ever in question...what are we, Madrid?

Posted by: MizNelson Jun 21 2009, 09:02 AM

According to Calciomercato, Ambro is reportedly seeking a three-year extension that will pay him 4.5 million (!) a season.

http://vivoperlei.calciomercato.com/index.php?section=forum&area=topic&f_id=11&ft_id=6743

Posted by: dst Jun 21 2009, 11:00 AM

4.5m!?!? That's too much. He's got to accept to stay for less.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jun 21 2009, 11:19 AM

^^
While I'm sure that figure is just bandied about...I'm curious. So if he doesn't agree to sign up for substantially less than 4.5 we're gonna sell him?

I think he can play for around 70 a week.

Posted by: han2503 Jun 21 2009, 11:55 AM

I say offload him to Napoli and try to get Hamsik in the deal.

Whatever people think he's no Milan legend, far from it. And for him to ask for that kind of money at this point in his carreer when he knows what the club has gone through is beyond ridiculous and appaling.

He's not worth even half that ammount. He's not good enough, never was. And I'm personally hoping that by next season he'll either be wearing some other club's shirt or warming the bench.

Posted by: MizNelson Jun 21 2009, 05:06 PM

And I thought I was the only one who ever used that expression.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 21 2009, 05:51 PM

I'd like to know what the salaries of our players are, to see who earns what in relation to others. Ambro doesn't deserve that much, but he certainly deserves double that of Flamini and Gattuso based on years service + ability.

Posted by: han2503 Jun 21 2009, 06:37 PM

If we're going to compare ability, then he shouldn't even get half of what Rino and Flamini get.

Secondly Ambro, Rino, Pirlo, Seedorf and Flamini all are on the same basic salaries. Kaka was the one that got the highest salary.

And imo, Ambro does not have anything more then the other players mentioned. Looking at his age and how much a liability he's been most of the time. I'd say he should accept what he's already getting, either that or he should look for another club.

I don't understand how anyone can be condoning this. Paolo had Milan for much longer and was 10 times the player Ambro was and will ever be, yet he never demanded wage increases even though he was among the lowest earners on the team and to top it off Milan wanted to slash HIS wages, not Ambro's or Seedorf's or Dida's. But that's the type of club Milan has become.

And its shameful to see Ambro demanding such a sum, especially now that Milan have been made to sell Kaka, and considering selling Pirlo who is on the same salary as he is. Captain material MY @SS!!!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 21 2009, 07:05 PM

Well that's a difference of opinion then, because Ambro is Gattuso + good in the air + scoring + better passing. In my opinion.

Posted by: han2503 Jun 21 2009, 09:57 PM

I really don't consider scoring a factor as it's not something that's in the job descrption for either player.

Do I want a mediocre Ambro to play in hopes of him scoring a header or do I want a far better player in Rino who will win balls and keep things simple on the pitch? hmm tough question.

I'm not an Ambro hater. I just find him so frustrating. And I don't understand how some here used to criticise a player like Gourcuff (not saying it was you) for trying to do the hard thing instead of the simple things yet overlooking the fact that this is something that Ambro constantly does, and what's really maddening about it is the fact that he has 0 finesse when it comes to controlling and passing the ball. He tries to take ridiculous shots that usually end up in the parking lot of the stadiums, tries to make passes that Pirlo doesn't even attempt and fails miserably. He's not even that good at doing his actual job which is winning the ball and passing it quickly to our ball players, something that Rino does to perfection.

I just find Ambro so frustrating I usually end up wanting to tear my hair out when I see him do these ridiculous things and yet Carlo never used to take him off because he's one of the old timer, experianced players

Posted by: dst Jun 21 2009, 10:34 PM

Ambrosini should earn double what Gattuso earns? Please, you could not like the former and dislike the latter more but try to be a bit more balanced for sanity's sake.

As for service, Ambrosini has indeed been at Milan for more but Gattuso has featured in more games than him.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 21 2009, 10:36 PM

It's called 'Exaggerating', type it in on google and I'm sure you'll find a few definitions.

Posted by: dst Jun 21 2009, 10:40 PM

I'm better at it than you but this... this is not exaggeration it's "I can't stand Gattuso"... type... of thing.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jun 22 2009, 12:49 AM

Oh, and hans posts we're completely "I love Ambro" weren't they.

Posted by: MizNelson Jun 22 2009, 01:41 AM

Where did you hear that?

Posted by: han2503 Jun 22 2009, 06:54 AM

There was a big dispute about it, because apparently they wanted to cut his wage by 50% and Paolo was already one of the lowest earners on the team. And Paolo was threatening to not renew again.

It was even posted here IIRC. I'll try to dig it up.

Posted by: han2503 Jun 22 2009, 06:57 AM

I never said I loved the guy, but you always seem to manage to bring Rino into a conversation to criticise him and how he's not even a player.

Posted by: dst Jun 22 2009, 11:51 AM

Don't let han get between us, I'm teasing you now!

Posted by: MizNelson Jul 4 2009, 06:22 PM

Posted by: han2503 Jul 4 2009, 06:25 PM

No Ambro its better that we got it over with quickly so we can move on and think ahead to next season. Instead of dragging the will he, won't he story until the final days of the transfer window and then scrambling to buy someone new...

Posted by: Zed.D Jul 6 2009, 03:49 PM

Ambro is the new captain. congrats Kurt!

Posted by: han2503 Jul 6 2009, 04:10 PM

Posted by: Suhail 3 Jul 6 2009, 04:49 PM

Ambro _ Is the ideal captain _ passion _ commitment _ defends intelligently and scores the crucial headers when they most count _

legend for me _ and yes he does have Milan in his DNA

often the unsung milan hero _ glad hes captain

Forza Ambrosini _ Forza Milan

Posted by: dst Jul 6 2009, 06:32 PM

Come on. Why?

Posted by: Bluesummers Jul 6 2009, 06:38 PM

Well hes gonna play in about half the games and yet he is the symbol of milan lol. I would rather have nesta or Gattuso or Pirlo as captain and given him vice.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 6 2009, 06:41 PM

Posted by: dst Jul 6 2009, 06:46 PM

Leonardo is in that picture... I'm sure he has something to do with it so he's going to play more games than that. Even if he is not, I still don't think Ambro is worthy of 's...

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 6 2009, 06:50 PM

Ambro and Flamini at DM. Gattuso can fulfill his dream and go and play back in 17th century land with Rangers.

Posted by: Bluesummers Jul 6 2009, 06:53 PM

Repeat this in your head:



CAPTAIN OF MILAN THE GREAT PAOLO MALDINI! PAOLO MALDINI!!!



CAPTAIN OF MILAN THE GREAST MASSIMO AMBROSINI!!! MASSIMO AMBROSINI!!



Does that sound like its even close to the same level? To me it goes from a thundering legend to a bench player who hasn't even played a big role in any of milan accomplishments over the years.

Posted by: dst Jul 6 2009, 06:57 PM

From Paolo Maldini we could only have gone down...

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 6 2009, 07:15 PM

It depends what you mean by that. On the basis of form over recent years? It's a step up as captain.

Posted by: dst Jul 6 2009, 07:23 PM

Shut up!!! You only like Ambro because he's blond and... I don't know, maybe you like blond men!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 6 2009, 07:27 PM

I don't like any men in that way, plus Materazzi isn't blond.

Posted by: dst Jul 6 2009, 07:30 PM

Poulsen and Mellberg are. Plus, Juan Pablo Angel has a blond cousin!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Jul 6 2009, 07:32 PM

Juan Pablo Angel is from South America, I highly doubt he has a blond cousin.

Posted by: dst Jul 6 2009, 07:38 PM

... yeah you'd knew about it.

Posted by: Protogonist Jul 6 2009, 07:55 PM

Massimo is worthy of captaincy, I just hope he lasts long in football to carry a trophy as captain of Milan

Posted by: han2503 Jul 6 2009, 08:56 PM

Because he's not captain material, he's only in that picture because he rangled his way into Milan a few months before any of the other worthy players did.

Ambro never was and never will be captain material and I'll never see him as a true captain. I just think this whole seniority system is BS.





Haha! You're so funny. But we all know that when Rino is fit we'll be playing with Seedorf, Pirlo and Gattuso in the midfield.

So chances are that the co-captian will be wearing that arm band more then the actual captain will be.

Posted by: Bluesummers Aug 20 2009, 10:05 PM

So whats going on? Did we give him a new contract? His demands are obviously high as he wants to get paid as much as gattuso and everyone else but is he worth it? Personally I think hes good at where he is because he probably isn't going to play all that much anyways with abate and flamini and gattuso and seedorf fighting for that spot.

If we don't give him a new contract then he's gone in June.

Posted by: Bluesummers Aug 20 2009, 10:07 PM

Last contract talk was june 23! I wonder if this really may be the last year for ambro

Posted by: Locke Lamora Aug 20 2009, 10:12 PM

I've said it before and I'll spam it again: Ambro for captain.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 20 2009, 11:31 PM

meh he already got it by default.

Too bad he'll most probably have to sit out most of the time as there are far better players then him that can play in his position...

To me making Ambro captain just continues to solidfy the idea I have now of the club, we've turned into a joke, choosing a player who inreality is not that good and won't be starting in most of the matches to be captain just because he's our most senior player is ridiculous. A captain should be chosen on more then just how long he's been at a club

Posted by: Danny Aug 20 2009, 11:44 PM

How much of a role this season will he play? That's a slightly rhetorical question...

Posted by: nuh Aug 20 2009, 11:47 PM

i honestly don't think he will be benched i think he will play ahead of flamini (thats not what i want) but i our board wants it and they will get it plus at least he scorers important goals

Posted by: han2503 Aug 21 2009, 12:02 AM

Yeah scores a goal every 15 matches and for this we're willing to sacrifice our entire game on him. And why would the management want him to be played? Its not like he's a flashy player that gets the crowds in, plus they pay Flamini more so why would they want Leo to bench Flamini in order to play Ambro?

I think Ambro will be lucky if he sees minimum 20% of next season's match. We cannot afford to bench either Flamini or Rino who are by far better players them Ambro just because he's captain so he has to play. Rino will wear the armband more then him next season, I'm 100% sure of that.

Also you're forgetting the fact that plus Flamini and Rino there's Abate and Seeforf, and once Seedorf is fit I can see him challenging Flamini for that spot

Posted by: nuh Aug 21 2009, 12:13 AM

i know this has nothing got to do with all this but look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS6KYZeFFwM

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 21 2009, 01:27 AM

Ambro > Flamini > Gattuso.

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Aug 21 2009, 02:24 AM

Kurt surprises me yet again...

Posted by: Bluesummers Aug 21 2009, 05:44 AM

your joking right?

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 21 2009, 10:11 AM

Good defensive skills, god in the air, decent passer, scores goals > good defensive skills, good engine > good engine, okay defensive skills.

Posted by: dst Aug 21 2009, 10:29 AM

Ambrosini loses the ball way too easily for a DMF and I don't see how he is a better passer than the other two, especially Flamini. I don't think Ambrosini has ever made a forward pass in his career.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 21 2009, 10:41 AM

No comment.

Posted by: Zed.D Aug 21 2009, 10:46 AM

^^^ I think he's right in the first part:

Posted by: Tennie Aug 21 2009, 11:09 AM

Example of good Ambrosini forward pass: the assist to Gilardino for the third goal in the Milan-Manchester semifinal in 2007. (Ambro was Gazzetta's MOTM for that game. I can dig out the player ratings, which I've got somewhere in a box, if people are interested.)

Posted by: Zed.D Aug 21 2009, 11:15 AM

^^

That's why I said I agreed with only the first part of what dst said. I know he was exaggerating but still a fact is a fact.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 21 2009, 11:27 AM

Only you would think this.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 21 2009, 11:41 AM

Wow those tinted glasses are sure getting in the way of your better judgment... By good defensive skills you mean lunging around like a maniac for a million times in one match and probably only one of those is not concidered a foul Both Rino and Flamini are good at winning the ball in the air, just because Ambro scores a couple of goals doesn't put him above Rino and Flamini as last time I checked it isn't in their job description to score goals. And I'm not even going to bother with the good passer comment as Ambro is probably the worst passer in the team, he can't make a good pass to save his life if its longer then half a meter... And this you say while excluding Flamini who by far is our best passer from all the DMs.

The fact that all coaches choose Rino over Ambro, whether that's the NT coach or the club coach is indication enough of who is the better player.


dst is 100% right on this. Ambro is a terrible passer and if you look at him closesly during a match and count all the times he loses the ball you wouldn't be saying this. Ambro is the most frustrating player on our team, he's so limited as a player its ridiculous.


I don't know how that happened since there were at least 3 players on our team that had a far better game that night then him, those being Seedorf, Kaka and Rino.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 21 2009, 11:59 AM

Whoa?? Amrbo was immense in that match man! Just coz he didn't get the crowd worked up. He's a silent worker. I like him a lot.

But did you just say Seedorf and good game in the same sentence? Are you trying to seduce me or something? Why're you being so nice?

Posted by: han2503 Aug 21 2009, 12:02 PM

I didn't say that it was because they got the crowd riled up then they had the better game. I'm just saying this based on what I saw and the 3 that I mentioned above had the batter game. Kaka was immense that night and not just because he scored the goal, same goes for Seedorf who just dominated the pitch. And Rino kept both Rooney and Ronaldo quite, they both barely got a look in because of Rino.

Posted by: dst Aug 21 2009, 12:03 PM

That was a perfect example of a non-existent defense more than anything else. As Zed said I was of course exaggerating but I do think Ambrosini's passing does not help our attacking game apart from some exceptions that only prove the rule.


To continue on passing, I think Rino's is just as bad but I think he's a better defender that does not make as many stupid fouls as Ambro at least not very close to our area. That's why I think of him higher than Ambro. As for Flamini, he's more or less as good as Ambro in defense but he's much better going forward than the other two and that's why he also comes ahead of Ambro. I don't think the blonde angel is as bad as you make him sound though.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 21 2009, 12:08 PM

In the past I didn't think he was so bad, but now he just makes me want to throw things at the TV, its not just the bad passing and the bad lunges, its the fact that for some reason he thinks he's a winger, you see him running on the left wing then crossing the ball to the people in the stands. Also the fact that he shoots the ball when there are better options, and its not like he has a good shot as he mostly just sends it flying to the crowds.

Posted by: dst Aug 21 2009, 01:05 PM

I think he was asked to do those things by Ancelotti, the same way Brocchi was asked to play as an attacking midfielder...

Posted by: Zed.D Aug 21 2009, 01:09 PM

Or Seedorf as a winger/striker Carlo was really one of a kind! I'll never forget the game in which he fielded 6 defenders/FBs....

Posted by: Protagonist Aug 21 2009, 01:15 PM

It is just unfair to call this player average. He is very useful, certainly not as explosive and virile as Gattuso, but he is as effective in his own way. You can not just claim he is useless.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 21 2009, 01:59 PM

I didn't call him useless, I said he was frustrating and limited as a player. There is a big difference. I think he's a good player to have on the bench but certainly not starting material as there are better players ahead of him...

@ dst, whether it was Carlo's fault or not that he was playing as left winger, there are still far too many cons in his game that out weigh the pros. Imo the only thing he brings to the table that is better then Rino and Flamini is the fact that he's good at scoring from set-pieces, but I'd rather have the better players on the pitch then just putting on Ambro in the hopes that he scores off a set-piece

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 21 2009, 02:34 PM

Tinted glasses? Come on, that's ridiculous. You are the same way (but opposite) about Rino and Ambro as I am, so don't play that card.

Rino and Flamini are terrible in the air. Yes, I'm not talking about in the opponnents box, but in the middle of the field and in their own box, they are terrible. I think Rino is terrible at passing a ball, Flamini is the type that will have a very good pass rate since he generally plays the ball short and quickly to the guys that can do something with it. Ambro is definitly more creative with his passing, yes he will make a bad pass every now and then, but he'll try more longer searching balls than the other 2.


International level doesn't really mean anything. Pato hasn't been called up for Brazil, yet I think Fabiano has, does this mean we are stupid not to have signed Fabiano and sold Pato to Chelsea. We'd end up with more money and a better player.

I don't really recall Rino being picked over Ambro alot, he usually only ever misses games when he's injured or suspended. How we could have done with him in Istanbul, there's no way that would have happened if he played. While Rino had an abysmal 2nd half.

There were not 3 players that had a better game, Ambro was incredible that night, he won the ball back pretty much every time he attempted to, not just winning 1 every 10 with 'lunging' tackles. I think you'll find it was a smuch Ambro as it was Rino that kept Rooney and Ronaldo quiet, you're kidding yourself if you think 1 man can mark those 2 out of a game.

I don't agree with much of what the club does, but Ambro for captain is spot on.

EDIT: This is my last comment on the matter anyways, I won't be continuing it as there really is no point and we've been over it a million times +1.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 21 2009, 02:57 PM

I always said that Rino is definately no Pirlo when it comes to his passing bu he's better at it because he passes it quickly toPirlo, so rarely loses it, while Ambro tries the long diagonals and long balls all the time and rarely do they ever turn into something as they usually end up with the opposition...

Both Rino and Flamini are good at challenging in the air from the middle of the pitch, they might not have Ambro's towering jump but they're still good at it. Rino is not a good passer of the ball in the Pirlo sense, but he's good at releasing it quickly and rarely does he pass it to the opposition, unlike Ambro who tends to spend too much time with the ball then attempts stupid passes that will never hit the mark. Flamini is our best passer, he makes both long and short range passes which are actually good.


Pato has been called up for Brazil on more then one occasion so that's a moot point and the reason Fabiano gets the start over him is because of his physicality which is what works for Brazil with the way they play. It doesn't mean that one is better then the other, just that one has the characteristics needed for the way Brazil play.


Hmm lte's see when Rino was picked over Ambro, all through 2002 to 2006 Rino was always the one that started in the DM position while Ambro was either benched or injured. He said himself that he was thinking of leaving during those times becuase he was on the bench a lot. In 07 both played because Seedorf was moved into the attaching mid position so there was a spot for both and the last 2 seasons Rino was injured a lot, but when he was fit and we were going to play with just 1 DM Rino always got the start ahead of him.

And you're really going to blame Intanbul on the fact that Ambro wasn't there?? The entire team switched off, I'm 100% sure that had Ambro been on we would still have lost that game. And Ambro was there when we nearly lost it in the semis against PSV as well, we let 3 goal in that night and he was on the pitch to.


It was the combo of Rino and Oddo that handled Man U's left side, which was where Rooney and C.R were operating. While Ambro had Flethcer and Giggs to take care of

Its not like the club went through a lot of details when choosing the captain, he got it on default because he was here the longest. But what's really going to be ridiculous next season is the fact that our vice captain will wear the armband more then the actual captain will, becuase there is no way that Ambro will get the start ahead of the other mids we have that can play in that position

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 21 2009, 03:05 PM

What a poor game to pick on..

So? Gattuso played in that game to, so he was just as bad. If it weren't for Ambro in that game, we wouldn't have even got to Istanbul in the first place.

Posted by: Tennie Aug 21 2009, 03:08 PM

Should Fishdoll get out his popcorn for this one?

Posted by: dst Aug 21 2009, 03:39 PM

I agree with Kurt on his second to last post except for the point he makes that Ambro is more creative than the others. Surely he has a better long ball than Rino but he never creates something out of it, it's mostly horizontal balls.

The reason I'd pick Gattuso ahead of Ambro is because the former avoids making mistakes when trying to take the ball out our area. Ambro thinks he can create a counter-attack with a straight ball but almost always we end up having trouble because these passes get stopped. This is not a minor negative part of his game, it happens in every match at least once.

I think Flamini is way ahead of these two when it comes to going forward and just as good in defense and if it was not for Gattuso's heart (which I think brings a lot to our game and lifts the team up) and Ambrosini's undying passion I'd pick him ahead of these in purely footballing terms.

As for the captaincy I don't understand what the fuss is all about. There's no one that can be compared to our last two captains so for me it was not all that important who would get it. Besides, whoever IS a captain does not need an armband to show it... Gattuso captains the team with an armband or not and so does Ambro.

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Aug 21 2009, 04:00 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHA i was thinking the same thing, ambro is washed up and it's an insult to Rino/Pirlo that THEY don't see their efforts rewarded with the armband!

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Aug 21 2009, 04:03 PM

Completely agree, it's hard to say it, but flamini is definitely our overall best midfielder, while no ronaldhino, i think we will see this year, while rino and ambro square the ball, or send it back to the backline, Pirlo and Flamini will push the ball forward.

Posted by: Bluesummers Aug 21 2009, 04:11 PM

Saying ambro is better than gattuso is pretty bold considering one is considered one of the best DMF of all time and the other is just known as a bench player, but to consider him better than flamini now i've heard it all!


As it stands right now flamini=gattuso+ambrosini because he does both their jobs just as good if not better than them and contributes to the attack a lot more than those two. As many people have said already, look at the number of passes completed/balls lost when you compare the three and you will see Flamini stands on his own level in comparison to those two. Rino and ambro are equally bad at passing as they are reckless. Rino seems to get away with more than ambro does but that is because his reputation plays a huge role in that.

If flamini is benched for either one in an important game i'll consider Leo clueless about his job.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 21 2009, 05:20 PM

You may consider it a 'bold statement' but I think it's pretty straightforward to be honest. There is not a single part of Rino's game that is better than Ambro's, in my opinion.

Best DM of all-time? Now I've heard it all. Over-rating of players taken to the extreme.

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Aug 21 2009, 05:35 PM

I've got to go with the saskachawanian (sorry for butchering it) Look at the trofeo berlusconi performance of Rino and honestly tell me ambro could have played like that!

Posted by: Bluesummers Aug 21 2009, 06:07 PM

He's a world cup winner, 2x champions league winner and has been playing at the top of europe wanted by all clubs for about 3 seasons at least. Gattuso is a legend and known worldwide while ambro is....captain of milan


But I just don't see it kurt. I know its your opinion but to me it sounds like your saying Stankovic is better than Kaka as an example. I just don't see it.

Posted by: Bluesummers Aug 21 2009, 06:11 PM

exactly +1. Rino is called animal for a reason. Ambro could never played like that.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 21 2009, 06:12 PM

I never said that things wouldn't have happened had this or that player been on the pitch. You were the one that said that had there been Ambro playing in Istanbul things wouldn't have gone that way, which imo is totally ridiculous seeing as the entire team switched off and I'm pretty sure Ambro would have made no difference...

And yes Ambro did in the end score the goal in that match, but when it came to doing his actual job he wasn't all that great along with the entire team who played badly that night and still let 3 goals in. So what I'm essentially saying is we were still poor even though Ambro was on the pitch that night.

@ dst, even though no one can compare to our previous 2 captains I still think that its an important decision to make and a player shouldn't be captain just because he's been with a club the longest. Also the fact that the captain should be a regular starter in the team, not someone that in most likelihood will be on the bench for the majority of the matches

@ blue, saying that Rino is one of the best DMs of all time is stretching it a lot. But he is concidered as one of the best oh his generation. And when it came down to it Rino was the one that was wanted by the top clubs and not Ambro.

Posted by: Bluesummers Aug 21 2009, 06:14 PM

He's in the top 10 or 20 list forsure. Ambro is not.

Posted by: Locke Lamora Aug 21 2009, 06:15 PM

I think I'm pretty much the man in the middle here, as I rate both players(Gattuso slightly higher than Ambro though).
What makes Gattuso so famous is his numerous clashes with opposition players and fierce way of playing. He makes himself noticed, and in no way am I criticising him for that, but the fact that Ambrosini is a less noticeable player doesn't automatically make him better. In fact, Ambrosini has a better goal rate than Gattuso, he's stronger in the air, is more tactically aware and he has better technique. Gattuso beats him on stamina, strength and tackling, and he's marvelous at winding up the opposition.

As for Gattuso being one of the best DMF's of all time...please Bluey, I can think of at least 10 superiors to him and even then I'm probably forgetting a bunch. I rate Gattuso very highly, and he's been, without a doubt, one of the best DMF's in recent years. But in history...blah.

Posted by: Bluesummers Aug 21 2009, 06:17 PM

I don't doubt it, but he's up there with the best.

Posted by: Locke Lamora Aug 21 2009, 06:30 PM

Redondo? Makelele? Albertini? Vieira? Keane? Mattheus? Deschamps? Dunga? Riijkard? Davids? Simeone?

No he isn't.

Posted by: dst Aug 21 2009, 06:34 PM

Certainly no.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 21 2009, 06:35 PM

I really don't think that saying one has a better goal to game ratio counts for much seeing as neither of them is a striker...

I agree with pretty much all the points you made except for the goal argument as imo its not really relevant and that Ambro has better technique, I mean this guy pretty much trips over his own feet while running, has a terrible touch, bad passing, holds the ball too long then loses it, the list goes on. I'm not saying that Gattuso has good technique, but what makes it less noticable then Ambro is the fact that he himself knows it, that's why when he gets the ball he plays it quickly to Pirlo because he himself knows not to try the impossible stuff, unlike Ambro who probably thinks he's a cross between Pirlo, Iniesta and Fabregas with the things he tries to do

Posted by: han2503 Aug 21 2009, 06:37 PM

Agreed he's not concidered as one of the best of all times, but he's certainly up there as one of the best of his generation.

And even in that list there are come that are on a level of their own like Mattheus, Rijkaard, Redondo, all imo are a class above the rest

Posted by: Locke Lamora Aug 21 2009, 06:44 PM

So? If two defenders are roughly equally good then I'd say most coaches would pick the one with the best goal ratio.
Some of the most important goals in the history of football has been scored by defensive players.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 21 2009, 06:50 PM

Yes, but they're not equally good are they?

Imo having a player that is superior on the pitch but doesn't have the arial ability on one side or you have Ambro on the other side who imo just holds the midfield back because of his limitations but he's good in the air and there is a chance that he might score off a set-piece. I'd still always choose Rino. Because I'd rather have the better player for the entire match then have a player on in the hopes that he gets a goal from a corner or free-kick

Posted by: Locke Lamora Aug 21 2009, 07:15 PM

I don't think the quality gap between Gattuso and Ambrosini is that big, to be honest. But it seems you think that if Ambrosini plays then Gattuso don't and vice versa. That's not the case.

Posted by: Bluesummers Aug 21 2009, 07:17 PM

your kidding right.

Posted by: dst Aug 21 2009, 07:23 PM

What do you mean? Don't tell me you don't rate those guys!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 21 2009, 07:24 PM

I don't think you can really base things like winning a World Cup of Champions League in deciding a better player. Does this mean Gary Neville is one of the best right backs ever? I think I would need about 10 hands to count how many trophies he's won. I just don't see what trophies have to do with anything, it's like saying Fletcher is better than Fabregas.

Locke made a good point that made me think. If Rino wasn't such a confrontational player, if he wasn't so vocal or loud in his actions, he would have nowhere near the praise he does. His image seems to make people think he's better than he is.


So you're saying you agree, but Locke listed one thing which is essentially needed by a DM, tackling. All players that play DM have enough stamina/strength to play (otherwise they wouldn't be playing) so anymore is really unnecessary. Winding up the opposition, strange how it's good when it's Rino but it's a disgraceful thing when it's Matrix. I think somebody has blinkers on, and it isn't me.

Rino is a more liked player and I believe that is why people stick up for him. People on here have been trying to convince me Rino is better based on a friendly we played the other day and saying "Ambro couldn't do this", yet when we talk of a CL SF where Ambro was immense, they just dismiss it. Poor opposition, all the pundits are blind, it was all Rino, etc.

Give me a break.

Posted by: dst Aug 21 2009, 07:40 PM

Maybe that helps him in the way people see him but I think his spirit helps the team a lot too. I can see it. It's obvious when he does not play and it's even more clear in the few times he had to be substituted like against Utd at Old Trafford in 2007, the team missed a lot that night when he was taken off.

All in all, I think Gattuso is more solid at the back and Ambrosini is a bit better going forward. I don't think, no matter who's better, that there is a significant gap in quality. However, I think for their position defense and comes first and for that reason I'd pick Gattuso ahead of Ambrosini. That's footballing-wise. There's also the way Rino helps the team spiritually which is one more reason why I'd pick him first.

... and of course in no way I think giving Ambro the armband is wrong.

Posted by: Locke Lamora Aug 21 2009, 07:41 PM

So now we're agreeing on football related things as well...I'll expand a bit on the parts I've put in bold.

The main reason Gattuso is as popular/controversial/misliked as he is is because he's so visible. Whenever there's a scrap taking place, Gattuso is there. Whenever two players other than him are confronting each other, Gattuso is the first to rush in and divert attention to himself. I'm NOT saying that's a bad thing, in fact it's good to have a player soaking up frustration and confrontation who can deal with it, than having several angry players going into reckless tackles all over the place.
That, and the fact that he looks like a crossbreed of wolverine and rottweiller on an acid trip gets him huge amounts of attention. This doesn't mean he's not a very good player, but it doesn't make him superior to other players who works just as hard but not as eye-catching.

Posted by: Locke Lamora Aug 21 2009, 07:47 PM

Makelele got a playing position named after him. That's not something you see alot of.
Vieira in the space 1998-2005 was simply immense. He defined box-to-box play, had good technique, an impressive goal ratio and excellent leadership qualities.
Dunga was the backbone of two Brazil sides and captained them to two successive world cup finals.

Posted by: Tennie Aug 21 2009, 07:48 PM

And Rijkaard essentially reinvented the position. What a grand player he was!

Posted by: han2503 Aug 21 2009, 09:30 PM

Well you have to concider the fact that there are Flamini and Seedorf to play in that position as well, so in reality both of them won't be playing at the same time unless there's an injury.

But what I really was trying to say there was that if I was given a choice between the 2 and had to pick one it would be Rino.


I don't think he only gets noticed because he's so controversial, its because he does everything with such passion and drive, he's running all over the place non stop, constantly winning balls, etc. Then there is also the fact that he gets in people's faces, riles the crowd up, always in the thick of things that also pulls people towards him. I'm just saying that its not just him being so controversial that gets people to notice him but also in the way he plays with such fire. Its why every Milan fan loves him, not just for being a great player but also for always playing with passion.

I'm saying I agree with the things Locke said except for the goals argument, which I always said that its not in either players' job description therefore to me its irrelevant whether they score goals or not. And come on, Matrix?? He doesn't wind up the opposition, he's brutal not passionate, 2 very different things

Posted by: Bluesummers Aug 22 2009, 05:07 AM

Makelele and Viera better than gattuso, that just makes me laugh. Dunga, maybe a little more successful career wise but gatts still got 3 years or more left. But! I don't understand how you can see Viera better than gattuso, that just makes me laugh or makelele

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Aug 22 2009, 05:22 AM

i'd go with Viera in his prime was better than gatts but rino has everlasting passion and drive to succeed for Milan, Viera has a bench accross town with a cell he can watch rino on live screening

Posted by: dst Aug 22 2009, 01:43 PM

You rate players only based on what they have won? So you're saying van Bommel is a greater player than Bergkamp since he has won a CL and Bergkamp has not.

You probably have not seen Makelele play too much... as much as I like Gattuso I don't think he can even be compared to Makelele. Real let him go and they fell apart... Gattuso could not have that big an impact on a team in his wildest dreams!

EDIT: Are you truly being serious? You're the only person I know that would nor rate Makelele higher than (or at the very least at the same level as) Gattuso... more so laugh at such a comparison.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 22 2009, 02:02 PM

I can't actually believe what I'm reading.

If these 3 were clubs, Makelele and Vieira would be Madrid and Barca, Gattuso would beWycombe Wanderers, there's that much difference in ability.

Obviously I can't comment on years gone by since I haven't been alive to see other DMs, but these 2 are the best since I've been alive, easily. Vieira I'd rate slightly higher since he was better on the ball/better going forward.

I think your 'titles' arguement is stupid. Again, it's like saying Fletcher is better than Fabregas.

Posted by: Locke Lamora Aug 22 2009, 02:09 PM

I was about to answer but Kurt and the Greek has said all I wanted to say.

Posted by: Bluesummers Aug 23 2009, 02:50 AM

BRAVO! Someone noticed!!

Its ridicioulous to say gattuso is better than makelele or viera because its simply not true. Can you argue it with facts? Not really because how can you rate these players? You can't...but everyone knows that gattuso is not better than those two,

which Is why I made those previous comments earlier saying gattuso is better and those two are a joke and the reaction I got is exactly what I wanted it from you guys. Its the same thing when you add ambro into the equation.


Now lets take the makelele and viera arguement out and focus on ambro. Now without special goggles and bias towards the player could you honestly say that Ambro is better than gattuso? I couldn't, just like I couldn't say that gattuso is better than makelele and viera or R. Keane. It simply isn't true but he is one of my favorites so yes in a sense I might argue that he is better eventhough deep down I know he is not.



So @ kurt, when you say ambro is better or locke when you say that, you guys don't have a basis to say that on. Gattuso has been a main leader and protagonist for milan's success this decade while ambro has been.....? My point is right there.

Can we say gattuso is better than ambro as a football player? No we can't because its simply impossible to compare. We can't say oh gattuso can only juggle 400x while ambro can do it 900x. OR gattuso can only pass 5/10 times on average to the target while ambro can do 7/10. Its simply not possible because we don't know these things.

What we can compare though is their contributions on the pitch when give the chance to play, which brings me to the reason why I say gattuso is better than ambro. Gattuso over the years has contributed alot more when give the opportunity than ambro has. There is a reason why he has started and played all those minutes while ambro has not.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 23 2009, 03:13 AM

I disagree with what you're saying. Nobody can know which player is better since it is 100% opinion, but you can base it on what you see. I feel Ambro is a better footballer than Gattuso in the sense that people will say Italians are better footballers than English players. The technique is better, he seems more aware on the ball and he isn't afraid to try and play a pass. Gattuso is just a work horse to me, I don't feel he has much use in an Italian team.

I think the arguement of success is also very harsh. Ambro's lack of time is more due to him being injury prone, he doesn't start as a sub that often, he usually plays when he's fit, r he did under Carlo. I think it's even worse when comparing players of diferent teams.

Posted by: Locke Lamora Aug 23 2009, 09:09 AM

I'd really appreciate it if you read my posts before trying to argue with me, I've said at least 3 times that I think Gattuso is indeed better, but not by much and Ambrosini is by far a more suitable choice for captain.

Posted by: Bluesummers Aug 23 2009, 09:10 AM

you know what kurtypoo lets just say we dont' see eye to eye on this. You are convinced that ambro is better than gattuso. Unfortunately you are a minor in carrying this opinion but I respect you for holding your feet firm. But enjoy the ambro-less and gattuso-full season, I know I will

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Aug 23 2009, 03:08 PM

Can't we just all agree that we could not have played as well as we did with ambro in the linup....

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 23 2009, 04:08 PM

Well we did fine enough when he was on.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 23 2009, 04:56 PM

That's because he stayed out of the way

Posted by: Locke Lamora Aug 23 2009, 05:31 PM

0:33 in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9fOkrnWOHs video.

Posted by: whoarethepatriots Aug 23 2009, 06:10 PM

Where is this Ambrosini hatred coming from? Why are people attacking my beloved Massimo?

As far as i am concerned he is roughly equal to Gattuso in ability and importance to the club. He has proved time and time again how valuable he is with his goals and influence on the pitch. In our abysmal season of 07/08, he was without a doubt the best and most consistent performer on the pitch nearly all the time.

Also about this Makelele debacle, Makelele was the only player in the "Makelele role", this was because he stayed back at all times whereas other defensive midfielders (Gattuso included) venture forward their team has possession of the ball

Posted by: kurtsimonw Aug 23 2009, 06:48 PM

Incredible.


Jealousy.

Posted by: dst Aug 23 2009, 07:17 PM

I can't agree with that.


Every time I watch this, I think they'll score!

Posted by: nuh Aug 23 2009, 11:28 PM

i love ambro to bits but the only reason i would want him ahead of gattuso is cuz he scores goal (i think he scored 7 last year) but other than that i would rather have gattuso

Posted by: Bluesummers Aug 24 2009, 09:06 AM

for kurt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAuysEXH85I&feature=related

Posted by: Tennie Sep 8 2009, 02:28 PM

(from acmilan.com)

1-year contract extension.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 8 2009, 02:51 PM

1 year? That's strange coming from our idiotic management, I would have expected a 5 year deal with a salary of 5 mil per season...

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Sep 8 2009, 04:34 PM

Oh dear, mor eof the same from our beloved Rossoneri, we must HATE new faces

Posted by: MizNelson Sep 8 2009, 05:55 PM

For how much?

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 8 2009, 07:40 PM

Extension...so I guess the same terms hold. ~ 3 million

Posted by: Habitant Sep 8 2009, 07:46 PM

not always the case, extensions kick into effect when the original contract expires and so it's for a different salary.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 8 2009, 08:07 PM

I assume he'll be on a higher salary given that he's the club captain, not by much though I wouldn't have thought.

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 8 2009, 08:26 PM

1 year? LOL what a joke. I'm not Ambro's biggest fan but this is not nice at all, extending his contract only for 1 year.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 8 2009, 10:21 PM

1 year is the best option for any of our above 30 players, Ambro is no spring chicken, lets not make the same old mistakes and have more 'Didas' on our hands.

Posted by: Dracoris Sep 8 2009, 10:59 PM

Its actually a decent move by our management. Hooray.

Posted by: MizNelson Sep 8 2009, 11:30 PM

FI said that economic factors played a role in the decision as well. Eh, ok.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Sep 9 2009, 01:52 AM

I agree with han to be honest. There's no point in giving him a longer deal.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 9 2009, 10:18 AM

And its not just Ambro, Rino, Pippo, Dinho, Abbiati, Zambro, etc all shouldn't be given long term deals, we've been bitten in the @ss because of this on more then one occasion, let's not make the same mistakes.

And since Ambro signed the deal I'm sure he's just as happy with it.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Sep 9 2009, 10:29 AM

He even went on and said, the extension had been agreed some time ago. That signing the papers was the only thing left.

Posted by: Zed.D Sep 9 2009, 10:32 AM

@ han

I didn't mean he should have gotten a 5-year contract extension! a 2-year extension would've been better IMO.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 9 2009, 06:56 PM

Ambro's been with Milan through thick and thin and I really expect him to end his career with us. But yes, that 1-year deal makes sense if you look at some past flops.

Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 21 2009, 10:44 PM

Who was the last Milan captain to lead us to victory in Madrid?

Posted by: Zed.D Oct 21 2009, 11:25 PM

Who was the last Milan striker to score our winning goal in a victory over Madrid?

Posted by: Bluesummers Oct 21 2009, 11:29 PM

who was the last coach to ever beat madrid?

Posted by: ganney Oct 21 2009, 11:33 PM

who was the last milan goalkeeper to gift madrid a goal?

Posted by: Zed.D Oct 21 2009, 11:35 PM

Who was the last Milan player to slap Raul like that?!

Posted by: kurtsimonw Oct 22 2009, 01:25 AM

Who was the last person to stop talking **** in a holy thread such as this?

Though I think you all missed my point, if you think the answer is Ambro anyway. I meant previous to today, I just wondered which other Milan players had done it.

Posted by: Tennie Oct 22 2009, 01:28 AM

The answer to that is no, Kurt. This is Milan's first win at the Bernabeu in an official game. The best previous Milan result there was a 1-1 draw back in the days of Sacchi, with Van Basten getting the goal for Milan (I think it was Butragueno who scored for Real).

That said, Milan are the third Italian club in succession to have beaten Real in Madrid -- after AS Roma and Juventus.

Posted by: Zed.D Oct 22 2009, 07:37 AM

I know I wasn't...

So Pato is the only Milan player in the history of this club to have scored the winning goal for us at the Bernabeu! quite an achievement

Posted by: Bluesummers Oct 22 2009, 08:41 AM

yes the duck has good luck and zed you should take him for a vacation to up your mockluck. (hint: IOTY)

Posted by: dst Oct 22 2009, 09:43 AM

The answer is Nesta, he captains us, Ambrosini is just wearing the armband.

Posted by: Bluesummers Oct 22 2009, 09:45 AM

aye laddie

Posted by: ganney Oct 22 2009, 10:13 AM

ambrosini's pass for pato's second goal was simply brilliant (more of that player!)

Posted by: Dracoris Mar 5 2010, 09:30 PM

Speaking of players who deserved to be called up.....

Posted by: han2503 Mar 5 2010, 10:07 PM

Yep, Yep, but Lippi won't call him up, even if Ambro is currently the best DM in the league imo, and I'm not even that big an Ambro fan, but it would be the best decision for the NT and if someone deserves it then he should get the call up, and no one desrves it more then Ambro imo

Posted by: Fishdoll Mar 5 2010, 10:16 PM

Agreed.

But, well, Lippi doesn't like him for some reason so that's that.

Posted by: CHU-LIP Mar 5 2010, 10:36 PM

I don't like Lippi for some reason.

Posted by: Habitant Mar 6 2010, 06:33 AM

in 06 he picked the right players, the best available and formed a great team.

now lippi is just being a **** and better hope for a miracle

Posted by: han2503 Mar 6 2010, 10:55 AM

Lippi is an @sshole, and that's that. If Ambro wore the prison uniform from Turin then he would get called up even if he played like sh!t.

Now let's watch Lippi drop Boriello and bring Iaquinta back into the fold now that he is fit again


He called up Barone, Grosso and Zaccardo Grosso turned out to be a lucky strike for him nothing more, the other Palermo boys were awful and didn't deserve to be on that team, Lippi probably owed a favour to Zampa for those call ups

Posted by: Fishdoll May 29 2010, 11:46 AM

(from acmilan.com)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Posted by: CHU-LIP May 29 2010, 11:48 AM

Happy birthday, Ambro

Posted by: d'Arc.LP May 29 2010, 12:35 PM

Happy Birthday captain.

Posted by: Blackmaster May 29 2010, 01:05 PM

Happy birthday il capetano.

Posted by: ForzaMaldini May 29 2010, 05:54 PM

[code][/code]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pgkV7mp9eY&playnext_from=TL&videos=OPfDuG3IWx8

Auguri Massimo!

Posted by: kurtsimonw May 29 2010, 06:45 PM

Awesome vid.

Player of the season 09/10.

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Jul 29 2010, 05:51 PM

Milan Will Moderate Inter's Dominance This Season - Captain Massimo Ambrosini

source - goal.com

Posted by: William405 May 6 2011, 01:51 PM

Fine words from our captain.