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Posted by: han2503 Apr 19 2012, 12:34 PM

We're in the home stretch, and if we want to keep our hopes for this title alive, we have to get these 3 points. Juve will most likely win against Roma, so anything other than 3 points will mean giving the title up

The players should be all well rested so no more excuses for the listless performances we were seeing

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 19 2012, 03:06 PM

Milan (4-3-1-2): Abbiati; Abate, Nesta, Yepes, Antonini; Nocerino, Van Bommel, Muntari; Seedorf; Ibrahimovic, Robinho.

Source: Mediaset

Posted by: William405 Apr 19 2012, 03:15 PM

Huh,anything wrong with mexes?

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 19 2012, 03:21 PM

QUOTE (William405 @ Apr 19 2012, 04:15 PM) *
Huh,anything wrong with mexes?


I guess Allegri doesn't trust him after his mistakes against Barcelona and Fiorentina, which is kind of foolish, considering he's our best CB after Nesta and Thiago. Everyone commits mistakes. Muntari makes a gazillion of them in every game, yet he still remains an Allegri favorite. And honestly, I don't trust Yepes.

Posted by: acid911 Apr 19 2012, 04:23 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 19 2012, 04:34 PM) *
Juve will most likely win against Roma, so anything other than 3 points will mean giving the title up

The title is already up, we have to win it back somehow. wink.gif And for this we need luck, not just hard work.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 19 2012, 06:39 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Apr 19 2012, 04:23 PM) *
The title is already up, we have to win it back somehow. wink.gif And for this we need luck, not just hard work.

Allegri is certainly doing everything he can to test that luck rolleyes.gif

That's the cr@ppiest line-up he can pick from the players we have available!

Where's Mexes? Aquilani? Seedorf behind the strikers is also a big question mark at this point since he can barely last 60 minutes on the pitch

Posted by: acid911 Apr 19 2012, 10:00 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 19 2012, 10:39 PM) *
Where's Mexes? Aquilani? Seedorf behind the strikers is also a big question mark at this point since he can barely last 60 minutes on the pitch

His funeral. sleep.gif Hard to stand by him if he's pulling this shtick week in week out.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 19 2012, 10:11 PM

It looks like Allegri's plan of draining this team from any creativity whatsoever is working perfectly. And then Yepes instead of Mexes is facepalm material. Oh, how I can't stand this coach. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: acid911 Apr 19 2012, 10:34 PM

Maybe he thought Mexes was too creative for his own good. happy.gif Yepes is more straightforward that way.

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 20 2012, 08:13 AM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 19 2012, 10:09 PM) *
That's the cr@ppiest line-up he can pick from the players we have available!

Which players are available?


Posted by: han2503 Apr 20 2012, 11:39 AM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 20 2012, 08:13 AM) *
Which players are available?

Well we haven't got the call up list yet, but we all know that Aqui and Mexes are certainly not injured

Posted by: drucurl Apr 20 2012, 10:30 PM

Al might send aqua back to Pool and get M. Diarra instead :')

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 21 2012, 08:09 AM

I will laugh at you all if Aquilani starts this game, you can do the same to me if he doesn't. I just think it's lame that you have been bashing Max over a predicted lineup since 3-4 days before the actual game. I can dig up a lot of posts of games where you did the same but the actual lineup turned out to be different from what you bashed him for. but no, you have to have a reason to take it out on him no matter what.

I also don't buy the Max vs Creativity thing either. Max doesn't have any problem with Cassano, it's just that the rest of our so-called creative players don't really cut it. not to mention some of you have taken it to a ridiculous level ("Yepes instead of Mexes?? the guy hates any creativity"). creativity in the center-back? give me a fucking break! Mexes' "creativity" cost us the first penalty against Barca if you have forgotten. as much as he can defend (and I appreciate that greatly!) he should stay away from doing any libero kind of thing whatsoever. he's no Thiago, he's slow and doesn't have any technique. so I think Max is right if he doesn't play Mexes because he doesn't like his type of creativity which more creates problems than solves them.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 21 2012, 11:56 AM

Get ready to be laughed at. tongue.gif

Mexes is a great defender. So, what, he made a couple of mistakes. Everyone makes them. Even the great Thiago does them. Playing Yepes over a fit Mexes is pure idiocy.

And yes, Allegri does have a problem with creativity, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten rid of Ronaldinho and Pirlo, and wouldn't prefer someone like Muntari over Aquilani. I don't care whether our only creative force in midfield is a sub-par player. You need at least one playmaker in there, unless you consider van Bommel to be one, in which case I will roll my eyes at you.

Aqua-MvB-Noce was such a good trio back in late-2011 that helped our midfield gain a proper balance and let us play some nice football, instead of this huff-and-puff, long-ball bullshit that we've been employing ever since we signed Muntari.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 21 2012, 12:50 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 21 2012, 11:56 AM) *
Get ready to be laughed at. tongue.gif

Mexes is a great defender. So, what, he made a couple of mistakes. Everyone makes them. Even the great Thiago does them. Playing Yepes over a fit Mexes is pure idiocy.

And yes, Allegri does have a problem with creativity, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten rid of Ronaldinho and Pirlo, and wouldn't prefer someone like Muntari over Aquilani. I don't care whether our only creative force in midfield is a sub-par player. You need at least one playmaker in there, unless you consider van Bommel to be one, in which case I will roll my eyes at you.

Aqua-MvB-Noce was such a good trio back in late-2011 that helped our midfield gain a proper balance and let us play some nice football, instead of this huff-and-puff, long-ball bullshit that we've been employing ever since we signed Muntari.

Took the words right out of my mouth!

Zeddie, I don't think you'll be laughing all that hard, this is typical Allegri. He's played Muntari in every single game he's been avilable for us, while letting Aqui on the bench, Aqui might have come across a drop in form since getting back, but he's still a million times better than that idiot Muntari, who cannot even make a 1 meter pass without f@cking it up. It's simply inexcusable, and personally I can't understand why you're defending him on this issue. He's playing a walking bilboard for 'screw up waiting to happen' yet you're trying to defend his case by saying his other options are not good enough. If you consider Aqui not good enough than what would that make Muntari FFS??!

As for Mexes, he made 1 mistake against Barca... BARCA!! Not just any regular Joe team, yes it could have been avoided, but than agin, like X-Off said, even Thiago makes the odd mistake here and there. This is what bugs me the most about Allegri. Guys like Muntari, Ambro, Rino, Urby, etc can make a mistake in every game (which they do) but one mistake from Aqui or Mexes and they're exiled to the bench, even if their alternative is just plain worse and even more prone to making a mistake. Just f@cking unblievable and completely ridiculous.

If we do not win this Scudetto than Allegri has to go. Simple as, and I think Silvio will be more than happy to see the back of him. He's turned us into a mid-table EPL team. But instead of punting the ball at Crouch we're punting it at Ibra, thus our position in the table

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 21 2012, 01:21 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 21 2012, 01:50 PM) *
This is what bugs me the most about Allegri. Guys like Muntari, Ambro, Rino, Urby, etc can make a mistake in every game (which they do) but one mistake from Aqui or Mexes and they're exiled to the bench, even if their alternative is just plain worse and even more prone to making a mistake. Just f@cking unblievable and completely ridiculous.


This, too.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 21 2012, 06:20 PM

Mexes not even called up. Injury, or Allegri dickishness?

Posted by: William405 Apr 21 2012, 06:23 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 21 2012, 08:20 PM) *
Mexes not even called up. Injury, or Allegri dickishness?


Oh come on,I know you rate him low but still....

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 21 2012, 06:29 PM

QUOTE (William405 @ Apr 21 2012, 07:23 PM) *
Oh come on,I know you rate him low but still....


But still what? If he hasn't even called up Mexes due to his mistakes against Barça and Fiorentina then my dislike for this guy will reach a whole new level.

Posted by: William405 Apr 21 2012, 07:35 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 21 2012, 08:29 PM) *
But still what? If he hasn't even called up Mexes due to his mistakes against Barça and Fiorentina then my dislike for this guy will reach a whole new level.


I seriously doubt it.Not to even call him,he would never do that.I just think you want a new reason to hate him(as if you need any wink.gif )

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 21 2012, 07:58 PM

QUOTE (William405 @ Apr 21 2012, 08:35 PM) *
I seriously doubt it.Not to even call him,he would never do that.I just think you want a new reason to hate him(as if you need any wink.gif )


LOL, no. I'm really hoping it's just another injury, cause I can't accept the opposite.

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 21 2012, 09:10 PM

You seriously believe Allegri didn't call Mexes up because of his mistakes against Barca and Fiorentina? laugh.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 22 2012, 03:48 AM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 21 2012, 10:10 PM) *
You seriously believe Allegri didn't call Mexes up because of his mistakes against Barca and Fiorentina? laugh.gif


From Allegri I'd expect anything.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 22 2012, 10:43 AM

No, I won't go that far. You may expect from Allegri everything, but that counts twice for MilanLab. So my vote goes in that direction.

Posted by: arivanjj Apr 22 2012, 01:33 PM

line up:

Abbiati
Abate-Nesta-Bonera-Antonini
van Bommel-Nocerino-Muntari
Seedorf
Ibrahimovic-Robinho

Posted by: Danny Apr 22 2012, 01:38 PM

Little creativity in the middle there. What's the deal with Boateng?

Posted by: Danny Apr 22 2012, 01:41 PM



Dunno if this will work. Players warming up with Morosini's #25 on their shirts.

It worked.

Posted by: William405 Apr 22 2012, 01:46 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Apr 22 2012, 03:41 PM) *


Dunno if this will work. Players warming up with Morosini's #25 on their shirts.

It worked.


what will work?

Posted by: Danny Apr 22 2012, 01:48 PM

The image appearing properly.

Posted by: William405 Apr 22 2012, 02:02 PM

Ah ok tongue.gif

Posted by: arivanjj Apr 22 2012, 02:08 PM

the week off seems to be evident. nice pace about our play.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 22 2012, 02:17 PM

ibea misses a sitter

Posted by: arivanjj Apr 22 2012, 02:18 PM

wow.. biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig miss from ibra. shouldve taken his time. beautiful cross from seedorf

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 22 2012, 02:20 PM

muntari need to switch of auto shoot on sight mode

Posted by: drucurl Apr 22 2012, 02:23 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 21 2012, 03:09 AM) *
I will laugh at you all if Aquilani starts this game, you can do the same to me if he doesn't. I just think it's lame that you have been bashing Max over a predicted lineup since 3-4 days before the actual game. I can dig up a lot of posts of games where you did the same but the actual lineup turned out to be different from what you bashed him for. but no, you have to have a reason to take it out on him no matter what.

I also don't buy the Max vs Creativity thing either. Max doesn't have any problem with Cassano, it's just that the rest of our so-called creative players don't really cut it. not to mention some of you have taken it to a ridiculous level ("Yepes instead of Mexes?? the guy hates any creativity"). creativity in the center-back? give me a fucking break! Mexes' "creativity" cost us the first penalty against Barca if you have forgotten. as much as he can defend (and I appreciate that greatly!) he should stay away from doing any libero kind of thing whatsoever. he's no Thiago, he's slow and doesn't have any technique. so I think Max is right if he doesn't play Mexes because he doesn't like his type of creativity which more creates problems than solves them.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
MILAN LINEUP: (4-3-1-2): Abbiati; Abate, Nesta, Bonera, Antonini; Nocerino, van Bommel, Muntari; Seedorf; Ibrahimovic, Robinho. Bench: Amelia, Yepes, Gattuso, Aquilani, Emanuelson, Lopez, Cassano.

$#!tlegri

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 22 2012, 02:27 PM

they score nice smile.gif

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 02:27 PM

WTF!!

Just great

Posted by: arivanjj Apr 22 2012, 02:28 PM

van bommel does a mexes. bologna one up. *sigh

Posted by: drucurl Apr 22 2012, 02:28 PM

Goal...thanks Mr Allegri smile.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 22 2012, 02:28 PM

Great play by Bommel.

Posted by: CHU-LIP Apr 22 2012, 02:29 PM

A week ago or so I read a rumour on the other forum that Aquilani won't be signed by Milan (I think B or G said it himself, and that Montolivo comes instead - he's free wink.gif ), because he is too expensive because of his injuries (wow, he is injury prone? Good that we learned that this season!). And apparently, the 25 games thing is a bit different than we first thought: http://martina22acm.wordpress.com/2012/03/24/alberto-aquilanis-liverpool-contract-confusion/

And yaaay, Bologna scored. Things are looking good! And not using Aquilani who makes our midfield and thus team so much better is just so, so... brilliant!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 22 2012, 02:30 PM

QUOTE (drucurl @ Apr 22 2012, 02:28 PM) *
Goal...thanks Mr Allegri smile.gif

seriously Allegri wink.gif

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 02:30 PM

Falling apart at the perfect time. Nice one Allegri

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 22 2012, 02:32 PM

WTF was Bonera doing for their goal? Why didn't he rush to the ball instead of running backwards? He done exactly the same not so long ago if I recall.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 02:33 PM

How could they not score from that ball

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 22 2012, 02:34 PM

wtf is seedorf doing

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 02:36 PM

Can't see how we'll be able to score twice in the second hald. Another 2 lost points and the Scudetto is out the window

Posted by: drucurl Apr 22 2012, 02:37 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Apr 22 2012, 09:30 AM) *
seriously Allegri wink.gif

Sorry it really was MVB but ...you know...I couldn't resist the trollbait innocent.gif

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 02:41 PM

Lol, Muntari practically takes Seedorf's leg out with the ball and it sets off an attack for Bologna that should have been the second

Posted by: drucurl Apr 22 2012, 02:43 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 22 2012, 09:41 AM) *
Lol, Muntari practically takes Seedorf's leg out with the ball and it sets off an attack for Bologna that should have been the second

MOAAAAR MUSCLE MOOOAAAR MUSCLE

ME WANT MELO, JULIO BAPTISTA GREAVESEN + JOHN HARTSON



oh and Heskey as backup 96.gif

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 02:44 PM

We're a mess. Just no plan, no co-ordination, just one big ball of confusion. If Allegri cannot fix this, we're done for, and so is he

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 22 2012, 02:45 PM

QUOTE (drucurl @ Apr 22 2012, 02:43 PM) *
MOAAAAR MUSCLE MOOOAAAR MUSCLE

ME WANT MELO, JULIO BAPTISTA GREAVESEN + JOHN HARTSON



oh and Heskey as backup 96.gif

yup the money we have thats is what we can do..

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 02:46 PM

Allegri better take off that idiot at half time

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 02:48 PM

HT, and all I have to say is; Shameful

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 22 2012, 02:48 PM

HT 0-1... quite uselss after a decent start

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 22 2012, 02:50 PM

Ibrahimovićs performance was a disaster as well up till now. Can't believe how bad he is.

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 22 2012, 02:55 PM

Missed the 1st half, hopefully the second half will be better for us unsure.gif

As for laughing at me, I had it coming I guess biggrin.gif we'll see just how good Aquilani will play if he comes on though.

Posted by: arivanjj Apr 22 2012, 02:56 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 22 2012, 10:50 PM) *
Ibrahimovićs performance was a disaster as well up till now. Can't believe how bad he is.

he's been playing next to robinho for too long and now he's become him. dry.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 22 2012, 03:04 PM

Emanuelson in focus. Yes, we really need him!

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 03:06 PM

He needs to bring on someone that can play the ball in midfield, we're not going to do anything like this

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 22 2012, 03:07 PM

nocerino misses now

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 22 2012, 03:09 PM

This is ridiculous.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 22 2012, 03:11 PM

Aquilani and Emanuelson must come in for Muntari and Seedorf.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 03:12 PM

Muntari is the most one dimensional player I've ever seen. How much time does he need to actually pass the ball

Posted by: drucurl Apr 22 2012, 03:14 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 22 2012, 09:55 AM) *
Missed the 1st half, hopefully the second half will be better for us unsure.gif

As for laughing at me, I had it coming I guess biggrin.gif we'll see just how good Aquilani will play if he comes on though.

I love a guy that can take a joke (no homo) king.gif

Posted by: arivanjj Apr 22 2012, 03:15 PM

casssano for seedorf.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 03:15 PM

Lol, takes off Seedorf leaves Muntari on the pitch. Allegi is becoming a top notch comedian

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 22 2012, 03:15 PM

cassan-seedorf excellent sub

Posted by: drucurl Apr 22 2012, 03:15 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 22 2012, 10:06 AM) *
He needs to bring on someone that can play the ball in midfield, we're not going to do anything like this
?
blink.gif

Anywhoo

MUSCLE...MOAAAR MUSCLE.....Bring on Ambro and Gattuso cool.gif

Posted by: CHU-LIP Apr 22 2012, 03:16 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Apr 22 2012, 04:15 PM) *
cassan-seedorf excellent sub

amen

I think Seedorf at AM is key for us being bad. Not the type we need there.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 03:17 PM

loooool

How is that offside???!!!

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 22 2012, 03:17 PM

**** line man that was a legal goal

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 03:18 PM

Should be 1-1

Cheated again

Posted by: drucurl Apr 22 2012, 03:18 PM

Is is me or are Muntari and Nesta the only players that are earning their pay today?

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 22 2012, 03:18 PM

Robbed of another perfectly good goal> FUUUUCKKK!

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 22 2012, 03:19 PM

Yet another bull5hit decision as Ibra was blatantly onside when the ball was played!

Posted by: Jack Bauer Apr 22 2012, 03:20 PM

biggrin.gif another goal stolen...

Posted by: Danny Apr 22 2012, 03:20 PM

I was against it, but I am now in favour of goal line technology. We've just been robbed.

Posted by: Danny Apr 22 2012, 03:20 PM

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 22 2012, 03:19 PM) *
Yet another bull5hit decision as Ibra was blatantly onside when the ball was played!


Was it definitely given for offside?

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 22 2012, 03:22 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Apr 22 2012, 03:20 PM) *
Was it definitely given for offside?

yup this on was given off

Posted by: Danny Apr 22 2012, 03:23 PM

Thought it was a disallowed goal which had crossed the line but ruled opposite. And he was absolutely miles onside.

Posted by: drucurl Apr 22 2012, 03:24 PM

I feel JUST like Galliani looolzz

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 22 2012, 03:25 PM

Just how much difference a quality player (Cassano) makes to our game. imagine if our FBs were actually quality and not rubbish...

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 03:26 PM

Again off the line

We won't score, I can feel it

Too unlucky

Posted by: nuh Apr 22 2012, 03:28 PM

why is he really avoiding to bring on aquilani :@

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 22 2012, 03:29 PM

Seedorf needs to **** himself in the dressing room. his gesture upon substitution was very disrespectful. just look at how much better Cassano is playing than that fossil turtle.

That's what happens when you make your "veterans" feel too much at home.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 22 2012, 03:31 PM

I wonder how much all this nonsense about getting rid of Allegri is affecting the players? I mean it came out today that Silvio has personally called Guardiola to come to Milan! This surely can't be helping right when we need help the most.

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 22 2012, 03:31 PM

mvb off aquallani on..

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 03:33 PM

Can't believe that this is how we'll be giving up the Scudetto. I feel disgusted

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 03:34 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 22 2012, 02:29 PM) *
Seedorf needs to **** himself in the dressing room. his gesture upon substitution was very disrespectful. just look at how much better Cassano is playing than that fossil turtle.

That's what happens when you make your "veterans" feel too much at home.

I think the point here is that Muntari is still on the pitch. That wasn't a vintage performance from Seedorf, but certainly others were worse than him

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 03:35 PM

LOL

@ Muntari

Posted by: Danny Apr 22 2012, 03:35 PM

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 22 2012, 03:31 PM) *
I wonder how much all this nonsense about getting rid of Allegri is affecting the players? I mean it came out today that Silvio has personally called Guardiola to come to Milan! This surely can't be helping right when we need help the most.


Guardiola is nothing special. Having one of the greatest club teams at his disposal helped a lot.

Posted by: arivanjj Apr 22 2012, 03:36 PM

nesta must be pissed right bout now.

Posted by: arivanjj Apr 22 2012, 03:36 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 22 2012, 11:35 PM) *
LOL

@ Muntari

x1000000000000

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 22 2012, 03:36 PM

and we are in the red so getting a coach like Guardiola means spending a lot of money dont see that happening

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 22 2012, 03:38 PM

Watching this is painful to my eyes.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 03:39 PM

Allegri needs to be given a meddle for p!ssing away this title

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 03:40 PM

Bonera sent off lovely

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 22 2012, 03:40 PM

Bonera has got red

Posted by: drucurl Apr 22 2012, 03:41 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 22 2012, 10:34 AM) *
I think the point here is that Muntari is still on the pitch. That wasn't a vintage performance from Seedorf, but certainly others were worse than him

Oh noes han it's ALL Seedorph's phault.....$h!tlegr! is a perfect coach.....it's just EVIL B&G that can't give us the creativity we need....hence Aqua comes on with only 20 min king.gif

Meanwhile red cardinho cool.gif

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 22 2012, 03:42 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 22 2012, 03:40 PM) *
Bonera sent off lovely


Now we have a chance of winning!

tongue.gif

Posted by: Jack Bauer Apr 22 2012, 03:43 PM

Season over..

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 22 2012, 03:43 PM

Bye bye scudetto, and hopefully bye bye Allegri. Today you cooked another disgusting mess.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 03:43 PM

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 22 2012, 02:42 PM) *
Now we have a chance of winning!

tongue.gif

Only if Muntari had been the one seeing red. I would have rejoiced if that were the case

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 03:44 PM

Anyway congrats to Juve for the title rolleyes.gif

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 22 2012, 03:44 PM

I pity those who paid hard earned cash to go and watch this tripe. We don't deserve Scudetto with performances like this!

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 03:45 PM

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 22 2012, 02:44 PM) *
I pity those who paid hard earned cash to go and watch this tripe. We don't deserve Scudetto with performances like this!

I wonder who's at the root of that problem... wink.gif

Posted by: drucurl Apr 22 2012, 03:45 PM

iBra>>>>Messi cool.gif

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 22 2012, 03:46 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 22 2012, 03:44 PM) *
Anyway congrats to Juve for the title rolleyes.gif


F*ck me, after today even Allegri and Galliani can't complain about the goal that never was! Juve have picked up while we have faded and they deserve the scudetto.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 22 2012, 03:47 PM

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 22 2012, 04:46 PM) *
F*ck me, after today even Allegri and Galliani can't complain about the goal that never was! Juve have picked up while we have faded and they deserve the scudetto.


Absolutely.

Posted by: nuh Apr 22 2012, 03:48 PM

I'm sorry but the team that played today should of been able to beat a team like Bologna
There is no excuse! We've played with a worse line-up against better teams and still won! I'm disgusted with each and every player today, because they simply didn't show up in the first half! Look at the difference between Cassano and everyone else that started this game

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 03:49 PM

IBRAAAAA

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 03:49 PM

Too late me thinks... sad.gif

Posted by: Danny Apr 22 2012, 03:49 PM

YaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS!

Posted by: Danny Apr 22 2012, 03:50 PM

I expect us to win now.

Posted by: drucurl Apr 22 2012, 03:50 PM

OMG iBra scored vs Bologna...I smell a Golden Ball this year cool.gif

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 22 2012, 03:50 PM

Ibra!

Too little too late though.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 22 2012, 03:51 PM

QUOTE (drucurl @ Apr 22 2012, 04:50 PM) *
OMG iBra scored vs Bologna...I smell a Golden Ball this year cool.gif


Shut your trap.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 22 2012, 03:51 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Apr 22 2012, 03:50 PM) *
I expect us to win now.


Are we playing 60mins injury time? tongue.gif

Posted by: Danny Apr 22 2012, 03:52 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 22 2012, 03:51 PM) *
Shut your trap.


I wanted to say something less polite, tbh.

Posted by: arivanjj Apr 22 2012, 03:52 PM

what a waste of a season... i hate this

Posted by: Danny Apr 22 2012, 03:53 PM

So close.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 03:53 PM

That's the Scudetto

Posted by: CrazyMilanFan Apr 22 2012, 03:53 PM

FT 1-1 now that disaloowed goal hurts even more

Posted by: Danny Apr 22 2012, 03:54 PM

Damn, was all too late.

Posted by: Danny Apr 22 2012, 03:54 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Apr 22 2012, 03:53 PM) *
FT 1-1 now that disaloowed goal hurts even more


We didn't play well, but yes, if all was pure and holy we'd have won that match.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 22 2012, 03:55 PM

QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Apr 22 2012, 04:53 PM) *
FT 1-1 now that disaloowed goal hurts even more


No, it doesn't. We gave the title away to Juventus by being absolute rubbish in the last four weeks.

Posted by: I_Rossoneri Apr 22 2012, 03:56 PM

Why have we suddenly woken up? Had we have played with this level of intensity before hand we would have won! It's like we conceded and then felt sorry for ourselves. Oh well a point is better than nothing, but we really should be beating teams like Bologna when we're at home...

Posted by: Danny Apr 22 2012, 03:58 PM

Maybe someone can set me straight here, but we're even with Juve, with them having Roma tonight. Even if they go 3 clear, it does not mean the end of the league.

This race is not over yet.

There are still plenty fixtures.

Posted by: drucurl Apr 22 2012, 03:58 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Apr 22 2012, 10:52 AM) *
I wanted to say something less polite, tbh.

yeah because he's allowed to be RUBBISH all game + force us to mould the team to suit him...but it's all good because he scores one goal....Forza Ibra a true team leader

Grandie Allegri - CLEAR GOLDEN BENCH WINNER :')


Posted by: Zed.D Apr 22 2012, 03:59 PM

I don't think we were that bad. created a lot but draw happens when you take only one of your chances.

I feel more disgusted at the ref, they have cost us AT LEAST 6 points so far. we'd be far ahead of Juve now.


And laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif @ Aquilani and whoever wanted him to play. made a mistake every time he got near the ball. there's a reason why Allegri doesn't give him the start these days.


As for the Scudetto, if Juve don't win tonight we can still remain hopeful. I know I will. PLEASE ROMA cry.gif

Posted by: drucurl Apr 22 2012, 04:03 PM

QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Apr 22 2012, 10:56 AM) *
Why have we suddenly woken up?

Have you NOT been watching Milan?
Allegri's tactics cures insomnia innocent.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 22 2012, 04:04 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Apr 22 2012, 04:58 PM) *
Maybe someone can set me straight here, but we're even with Juve, with them having Roma tonight. Even if they go 3 clear, it does not mean the end of the league.

This race is not over yet.

There are still plenty fixtures.


They have the upper hand in the direct games, so 3 points clear would really be 4.

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 22 2012, 04:59 PM) *
And laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif @ Aquilani and whoever wanted him to play. made a mistake every time he got near the ball. there's a reason why Allegri doesn't give him the start these days.


Maybe because he's barely played as starter ever since he got back and maybe because he's starting to question his own permanence at Milan. Another fine example of how Allegri ruins creative players.

Posted by: drucurl Apr 22 2012, 04:09 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 22 2012, 11:04 AM) *
Maybe because he's barely played as starter ever since he got back and maybe because he's starting to question his own permanence at Milan. Another fine example of how Allegri ruins creative players.
....so it can happen to Aqua but not to Ronaldinho loooooool gtfo brah wub.gif

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 22 2012, 04:10 PM

^^ Good point!!

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 22 2012, 07:34 PM) *
Maybe because he's barely played as starter ever since he got back and maybe because he's starting to question his own permanence at Milan. Another fine example of how Allegri ruins creative players.

No offense but your argument is rubbish. just look at Cassano and how well he played.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 22 2012, 04:13 PM

QUOTE (drucurl @ Apr 22 2012, 05:09 PM) *
....so it can happen to Aqua but not to Ronaldinho loooooool gtfo brah wub.gif


STFU n00b! Ronaldinho was a finished player the moment he arrived at Milan. Aquilani's shape is a result of him staying out injured for two months and then being used very little by Allegri. They're two completely different situations, but I don't expect your tiny brain to comprehend it.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 22 2012, 04:16 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 22 2012, 05:10 PM) *
No offense but your argument is rubbish. just look at Cassano and how well he played.


And look at van Bommel's disastrous performance. Clearly not everyone is cut the same way. Some people need to play regularly to gain match fitness. And besides, I'd rather play this Aquilani than frigging Muntari!!!

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 22 2012, 04:25 PM

Since when is MvB a creative player innocent.gif Besides, you don't lose your extra weight playing those 90 minutes, you do it throughout every week doing your training. if Aqua is carrying extra weight, it means he hasn't been training hard enough (for whatever reason) and therefore there's no reason he should play. you saw just how bad he was. I think the fact that he got to play these minutes shows how desperate Allegri was to get a result.

Posted by: drucurl Apr 22 2012, 04:28 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 22 2012, 11:13 AM) *
STFU n00b! Ronaldinho was a finished player the moment he arrived at Milan. Aquilani's shape is a result of him staying out injured for two months and then being used very little by Allegri. They're two completely different situations, but I don't expect your tiny brain to comprehend it.


The funny thing about you is that we both hate Allegri for 80% of the same reason but you are so arrogant that you think I'm an idiot for the 20% we disagree on.

The MAIN difference between us is that I see that a team built around iBra has a very low and limited ceiling for success simply because of the nature of the player. It doesn't make him a abd or crap player but his record and history speaks for itself. Get iBra you're getting the league...no More. Well I'm sorry but I think that winning the leagus isn't enough for a big club like Milan

The other thing is that I've beaten the Ronaldinho story to no end. I don't think he was or could ever become the player that he was at Barca but the FACT is that HE STILL HAD TOO MUCH TO OFFER TO THIS TEAM.

In terms of creativity, intelligence and vision he had no equal whatsoever and the main reason Milan struggle so much in attack despite having an impressive forward lineup is that we have virtually no SUPPLY.

you also mock me when I criticise Pirlo but as you can see he's doing very well for Juve...even scoring a free kick for them after a 3 year drought for us....He was cr@p because he simply didn't give a f**k....but all ppl ever saw was that "evil, past it Ronaldinho" when Pirlo was actually doing much worse. Nobody talked about Andrea because he's been here for years and doesn't lead the party/glamour lifestyle that Dinho did but truth be told...I'd rather a GENUINELY magical player, no matter how flawed that could make something out of nothing that another who simply thought himself above the team.

Now it's becoming ever clearer that I was right and YOU are indeed the clueless n00b you seem unable to take it and once again re-resort to idiotic theories and insults. but I ain't mad at ya...got nothing but love for ya wub.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 22 2012, 04:33 PM

Why do you guys enjoy giving those premature "game over" comments so much? Does it make you feel better or what? Can't you wait, see what comes? There are still 15 or more points in the game. Ridiculous.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 04:34 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Apr 22 2012, 03:58 PM) *
Maybe someone can set me straight here, but we're even with Juve, with them having Roma tonight. Even if they go 3 clear, it does not mean the end of the league.

This race is not over yet.

There are still plenty fixtures.

3 points is not much, but tey also have the better head-to-head. So 3 points is a bit much imo

And let's not kid ourselves. Juve will run over this Roma side. They'll simply bulldoze through their panzy @ss, Barca pretender, team. So no. It will be 3 points tonight, and because of the heads to head games it will be more like 4

This Scudetto is over. We ruined our season in the span of 2 weeks. Just brilliant.

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 22 2012, 03:59 PM) *
I don't think we were that bad. created a lot but draw happens when you take only one of your chances.

I feel more disgusted at the ref, they have cost us AT LEAST 6 points so far. we'd be far ahead of Juve now.


And laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif @ Aquilani and whoever wanted him to play. made a mistake every time he got near the ball. there's a reason why Allegri doesn't give him the start these days.


As for the Scudetto, if Juve don't win tonight we can still remain hopeful. I know I will. PLEASE ROMA cry.gif

lol at you laughing at Aqui! What do you expect him to do coming on for a few minutes? He's not an impact player. He's a rythm player. He's not good coming off the bench for limited time to try and change the flow of the game

Do you really know what's ruining our game for us? Muntari, Allegri's lovechild. He's the slowest, most idiotic player I've ever seen, yet he played the duration of the game trying to punt the ball in the general direction of the goal. That's what's painful. What's even more painful is that because of Muntari playing on the left, Nocerino is pushed to the right, and all the good things Nocerino brings to the table get cut in half when he's not playing on the left. Furthermore, he took Seedorf off, when we needed someone who could put his foot on the ball and play it from deep in the midfield. Yet Muntari was STILL on the pitch

Another thing. Urby should be playing at LB. Full Stop. All our chances came from his crosses. It's ridiculous that we have a LB who has a weaker left foot than mine. While Urby can seriously whip in a great ball. Ibra just thrived off them

Next game anything other than a front 3 of Ibra, Robs, Cassano would be a disgrace to this team. And anything other than a VB, Nocerino, Aqui midfield will mean losing more points

Posted by: Milan Are Brilliant Apr 22 2012, 04:35 PM

Poor goal disallowed, we weren't good though either. Disappointing really though you need a bit of luck on your side which we didn't get when had that goal been allowed we would have in all likelihood gone onto win.

Though why's everyone writing off the league already, I'm not saying you're wrong but come on support your team even when it's not winning 24/7 jeez.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 22 2012, 04:36 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 22 2012, 05:25 PM) *
Since when is MvB a creative player innocent.gif


Are you talking to your imaginary friend?

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 22 2012, 05:25 PM) *
Besides, you don't lose your extra weight playing those 90 minutes, you do it throughout every week doing your training. if Aqua is carrying extra weight, it means he hasn't been training hard enough (for whatever reason) and therefore there's no reason he should play. you saw just how bad he was. I think the fact that he got to play these minutes shows how desperate Allegri was to get a result.


He was bad for, what, 20 minutes? Muntari has been appalling for months, yet he gets the special treatment. Aquilani had a very good first half of the season, got injured for two months and upon his return was barely used from the start by Allegri. And let's not bring the extra weight argument cause it's really pathetic. Cassano said himself he was a bit overweight due to inactivity, but it didn't stop Allegri for playing him in the very first occasion. Aquilani looks perfectly fit for a football player. He just lacks match fitness for being played very little in the past 2-3 months.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 22 2012, 04:43 PM

QUOTE (drucurl @ Apr 22 2012, 05:28 PM) *
The funny thing about you is that we both hate Allegri for 80% of the same reason but you are so arrogant that you think I'm an idiot for the 20% we disagree on.

The MAIN difference between us is that I see that a team built around iBra has a very low and limited ceiling for success simply because of the nature of the player. It doesn't make him a abd or crap player but his record and history speaks for itself. Get iBra you're getting the league...no More. Well I'm sorry but I think that winning the leagus isn't enough for a big club like Milan

The other thing is that I've beaten the Ronaldinho story to no end. I don't think he was or could ever become the player that he was at Barca but the FACT is that HE STILL HAD TOO MUCH TO OFFER TO THIS TEAM.

In terms of creativity, intelligence and vision he had no equal whatsoever and the main reason Milan struggle so much in attack despite having an impressive forward lineup is that we have virtually no SUPPLY.

you also mock me when I criticise Pirlo but as you can see he's doing very well for Juve...even scoring a free kick for them after a 3 year drought for us....He was cr@p because he simply didn't give a f**k....but all ppl ever saw was that "evil, past it Ronaldinho" when Pirlo was actually doing much worse. Nobody talked about Andrea because he's been here for years and doesn't lead the party/glamour lifestyle that Dinho did but truth be told...I'd rather a GENUINELY magical player, no matter how flawed that could make something out of nothing that another who simply thought himself above the team.

Now it's becoming ever clearer that I was right and YOU are indeed the clueless n00b you seem unable to take it and once again re-resort to idiotic theories and insults. but I ain't mad at ya...got nothing but love for ya wub.gif


Ibra is the best thing that's happened to this club since Kaka', and without him we'd be mid-table material. I don't take lectures from someone who fails to realize something so evident and simple.

Posted by: Suhail 3 Apr 22 2012, 04:48 PM

the only plus of this season in terms of games was the fact we didnt get eliminated by arsenal another english team. Other than that mediocre and even the arsenal game almost ended in an embarrasement.

SACK ALLEGRI

Posted by: Zed.D Apr 22 2012, 04:54 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 22 2012, 08:06 PM) *
Are you talking to your imaginary friend?

Do you suffer from Alzheimer?

QUOTE
He was bad for, what, 20 minutes? Muntari has been appalling for months, yet he gets the special treatment. Aquilani had a very good first half of the season, got injured for two months and upon his return was barely used from the start by Allegri. And let's not bring the extra weight argument cause it's really pathetic. Cassano said himself he was a bit overweight due to inactivity, but it didn't stop Allegri for playing him in the very first occasion. Aquilani looks perfectly fit for a football player. He just lacks match fitness for being played very little in the past 2-3 months.

Yes Cassano was/is overweight but he makes up for it with his talent. I'm not an Aquilani hater or anything, but he's above average at best. when he's not fit enough, he's below average like today. I'm sure if he hadn't sustained that injury he'd be one of our regular starters. my point is, I don't for a second buy the "Allegri hates creative players" argument and I will show you Cassano as an example who's always been decent under Allegri, because he's talented enough. give Allegri another equally talented player and they will thrive just like Cassano.

I think the lack of capable FBs is hurting us probably even more than the void in midfield. can't believe how bad Abate and Antonini are going forward. can't make a decent cross to save their lives.

Posted by: drucurl Apr 22 2012, 04:59 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 22 2012, 11:43 AM) *
Ibra is the best thing that's happened to this club since Kaka', and without him we'd be mid-table material. I don't take lectures from someone who fails to realize something so evident and simple.

Well Judging from the fact that we were mid table before he came I'd say you are right dry.gif

This Milan team needs the same thing we needed before iBra....a good left back....the only thing is that now iBra is an animal that doesn't do well with other superstar attackers so Dinho had to go...and Pato would have been closer to his exit if he didn't pick up the slack at iBra's annual end of season bottle job last year.

So from needing one good left back and a couple mobile CM's to be complete....with Ronaldinho and Pirlo gone we need an entire midfield revamp...and guess what?? We STILL need a proper left back

Robinho gets a ton of criticism every day but the thing is that he does all the thankless dog work and runs that don't get rewarded ALL game long. iBra on the other hand HAS to get the ball each and everytime he does make a run ...because ...well he's iBra wink.gif

Having ONE attacking outlet as all iBra led CL failure teams before us MEANS that the BIG teams eliminate this and we have no hope whatsoever other than the stray chance or luck.


Conversely building the team around THREE main attackers as Leonard was attempting to do + getting the the defensive reinforcements we have gotten since is a FAR more effective strategy which does not need to pay a guy an astronomical salary to perennially choke when it matters most. Look at this Milan and tell me we aren't Inter with red stripes...go on I'll wait.


Please note that I am not yet factoring injuries into my argument. I was against iBra & Allegri before both arrived and I am talking from the perspective of both arrivals never happening.

Posted by: Jack Bauer Apr 22 2012, 05:15 PM

The team seemes off since the end of the CL. You can't be playing that casual in the decisive league games when every lost point can be fatal. Ibra really should have scored that wonderful chance in the first half, that would have made this game much easier. Last season we had Pato to give us a boost in the later stage, this time the only thng can save us is Juve choking and I don't see that happening.

Can't believe the refs screwed us again, the two main things why we won't win the league are injuries and refs.

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Apr 22 2012, 05:49 PM

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 22 2012, 10:59 AM) *
I don't think we were that bad. created a lot but draw happens when you take only one of your chances.

I feel more disgusted at the ref, they have cost us AT LEAST 6 points so far. we'd be far ahead of Juve now.


And laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif @ Aquilani and whoever wanted him to play. made a mistake every time he got near the ball. there's a reason why Allegri doesn't give him the start these days.


As for the Scudetto, if Juve don't win tonight we can still remain hopeful. I know I will. PLEASE ROMA cry.gif

We had moments in this game from both sides of the spectrum. Spectacular touches & links ups (mainly when Cassano came in to be honest) along to horrible, unforgivable misplaced passes and lacks in concentration.

The ref can be blamed, yes but the fact remains that we played badly (overall). Allegri got the starting lineup yet again, Muntari is horrible and always gets a start now, this is getting ridiculous.

Back to the reffing errors, you say 6, I say 9. Fiorentina (Seedorf goal)... +2, Juve (Muntari goal)...+2 (3 point gap), Catania (Robinho goal) ...+ 2, today (Ibra goal)...+2. But who's counting?! innocent.gif

Truth be told were not the only team to be hard done by reffing errors, but I think it's possible that we have received the most. dry.gif

Roma can win tonight (Juve loss) and we still only be level on points (advantage Juve)

It's now going to take something really BIG for Juve to slip up enough for us to consider overtaking!

Posted by: acid911 Apr 22 2012, 05:52 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 22 2012, 07:55 PM) *
No, it doesn't. We gave the title away to Juventus by being absolute rubbish in the last four weeks.

You said it. sad.gif An to think a few weeks back we are in contention for all three competitions.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 22 2012, 06:17 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 22 2012, 05:34 PM) *
3 points is not much, but tey also have the better head-to-head. So 3 points is a bit much imo

And let's not kid ourselves. Juve will run over this Roma side. They'll simply bulldoze through their panzy @ss, Barca pretender, team. So no. It will be 3 points tonight, and because of the heads to head games it will be more like 4

This Scudetto is over. We ruined our season in the span of 2 weeks. Just brilliant.

I can't believe you're saying this. I mean, how can you be that sure? You sound like you've predicted everything and there isn't even a slightest margin of error. Hey, football wouldn't be fun to watch if your maths would work every time. Stop repeating it's over until it really is over!

Posted by: TriniKing_CE Apr 22 2012, 06:22 PM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Apr 22 2012, 12:52 PM) *
You said it. sad.gif An to think a few weeks back we are in contention for all three competitions.

Well that's usually how it it for most big teams coming down to the end really.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 22 2012, 06:54 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 22 2012, 06:17 PM) *
I can't believe you're saying this. I mean, how can you be that sure? You sound like you've predicted everything and there isn't even a slightest margin of error. Hey, football wouldn't be fun to watch if your maths would work every time. Stop repeating it's over until it really is over!

Because I've seen our last 4 games and Juve's last 4 games wink.gif

I've went on and on about how Juve are not impressive and that they are an average team. I still 100% believe in that and stand by what I said. But they've been very impressive this past month. They've got a fully fit squad while playing each game with fresh legs due to no mid-week action.

Tbh, I can't see them slipping up at this point. And even if they do, we're doing a mighty fine job ourselves to make those slip ups non-factors

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 22 2012, 06:55 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 22 2012, 07:17 PM) *
I can't believe you're saying this. I mean, how can you be that sure? You sound like you've predicted everything and there isn't even a slightest margin of error. Hey, football wouldn't be fun to watch if your maths would work every time. Stop repeating it's over until it really is over!


Let's get realistic. If Juve win tonight, it's over.

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 22 2012, 05:54 PM) *
Do you suffer from Alzheimer?


I didn't even mention in the post you quoted that van Bommel is a creative player. What I meant to say is that sometimes players need minutes under their legs to get match fitness back. Maybe it's not the case for Cassano, but Aquilani is a perfect example, and today van Bommel was very rusty considering he hadn't played in more than a month.

QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 22 2012, 05:54 PM) *
Yes Cassano was/is overweight but he makes up for it with his talent. I'm not an Aquilani hater or anything, but he's above average at best. when he's not fit enough, he's below average like today. I'm sure if he hadn't sustained that injury he'd be one of our regular starters. my point is, I don't for a second buy the "Allegri hates creative players" argument and I will show you Cassano as an example who's always been decent under Allegri, because he's talented enough. give Allegri another equally talented player and they will thrive just like Cassano.


You don't buy it, I think it's clear as crystal. He's been playing Muntari relentlessly despite him being rubbish, yet Aquilani gets all the criticism, even though he hasn't played a full game in ages.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 22 2012, 07:37 PM

Realistic? What's that got to do with realism? The gap will be either 0 points, or 1 or 4 points. It isn't over until it's over, why the sudden rush? Are we in a contest or something?

QUOTE
Because I've seen our last 4 games and Juve's last 4 games wink.gif

I've went on and on about how Juve are not impressive and that they are an average team. I still 100% believe in that and stand by what I said. But they've been very impressive this past month. They've got a fully fit squad while playing each game with fresh legs due to no mid-week action.

Tbh, I can't see them slipping up at this point. And even if they do, we're doing a mighty fine job ourselves to make those slip ups non-factors

I know you have a rational explanation and I concur. But too many times I've seen rational explanations getting thrown out of window in a blink of an eye. Why should we rush and pronounce the death too early? I mean, you sound like it's 100% over and we all should stop watching because it's pointless.

EDIT: About Aquilani and Muntari - both are mediocre players at best who don't deserve to be first team in a WC/competitive squad.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 22 2012, 07:45 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 22 2012, 08:37 PM) *
Realistic? What's that got to do with realism? The gap will be either 0 points, or 1 or 4 points. It isn't over until it's over, why the sudden rush? Are we in a contest or something?

I know you have a rational explanation and I concur. But too many times I've seen rational explanations getting thrown out of window in a blink of an eye. Why should we rush and pronounce the death too early? I mean, you sound like it's 100% over and we all should stop watching because it's pointless.


Because Juve have been playing some great football and have a very easy schedule, save the game against Roma tonight. They show a collective fighting spirit that we clearly lack. They'll win because they're a team, and we'll lose because Allegri's only plan is called Ibrahimovic, who clearly can't handle a whole season by himself if the team doesn't support him.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 22 2012, 08:37 PM) *
EDIT: About Aquilani and Muntari - both are mediocre players at best who don't deserve to be first team in a WC/competitive squad.


You dare put Aquilani and Muntari in the same category? I marvel at you, Fillipo.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 22 2012, 07:55 PM

Why shouldn't I? Both don't deserve to be first team and that's it. Muntari is horrible, while Aquilani has still something to offer, but I don't intend to repeat bashing Muntari like a broken record.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 22 2012, 08:19 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 22 2012, 08:55 PM) *
Why shouldn't I? Both don't deserve to be first team and that's it. Muntari is horrible, while Aquilani has still something to offer, but I don't intend to repeat bashing Muntari like a broken record.


But between the two, Aquilani should clearly be the first choice.

Posted by: il_diavolo_mtl Apr 22 2012, 08:44 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 22 2012, 03:19 PM) *
But between the two, Aquilani should clearly be the first choice.

i think his skillset is being a tad bit exagerated... he's not first choice material, maybe in another format then Allegri's milan, but he doesn't really fit into our 11. He is very lazy when it comes to movement , positioning and defending...

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 22 2012, 09:28 PM

Not a good result by any means .. The team can barely stay compact. Mentally, they must be exhausted. Pairing with Barcelona and putting up strong performances throughout the season should not go up in flames just because Juve went 4 points clear towards the final stretch (a) they are fresher due to no European obligations (cool.gif they are hungry to win, as they have come a very long way, their fans deserve it at the very least © they are unbeaten.

We on the other hand are no push overs, I wouldn't say Juve have run away with the title, but I will say that there are 15 points to go and they are just 4 points away.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 22 2012, 10:19 PM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 22 2012, 10:28 PM) *
Not a good result by any means .. The team can barely stay compact. Mentally, they must be exhausted. Pairing with Barcelona and putting up strong performances throughout the season should not go up in flames just because Juve went 4 points clear towards the final stretch (a) they are fresher due to no European obligations (cool.gif they are hungry to win, as they have come a very long way, their fans deserve it at the very least © they are unbeaten.

We on the other hand are no push overs, I wouldn't say Juve have run away with the title, but I will say that there are 15 points to go and they are just 4 points away.


You sound rather cheerful about this whole situation.

Posted by: Yousef AR Apr 23 2012, 05:25 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 22 2012, 11:19 PM) *
You sound rather cheerful about this whole situation.


Most of the blame is on the coach himself he's too stubborn and he obviously can't find a way to put his players in better mentality. When i was watching yesterday's game i did see Milan i just saw 11 players lost and stressed throughout the game. Why play Robinho when he's been shitty the whole season? Maxi definitely deserves a chance to start and why play noceirino on the right while he's way much better on the left. Same goes to Van Bommel he's back from an injury why start him while u have other options? While if u look at Juventus they seem to have it all figured out what the hell the only team in europe that hasn't lost a match well that tells u something Allegri learn from your mistakes before it's too late.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 23 2012, 06:57 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 23 2012, 12:19 AM) *
You sound rather cheerful about this whole situation.


I am smile.gif

Posted by: acid911 Apr 23 2012, 07:33 AM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 23 2012, 10:57 AM) *
I am

Eternal optimism. Love it, love it! sleepysmiley03.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 23 2012, 08:08 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 22 2012, 09:19 PM) *
But between the two, Aquilani should clearly be the first choice.

Yeah, between two bad things, Muntari is much worse.

Posted by: drucurl Apr 23 2012, 02:32 PM

More Pessimism so you might want to skip this one too


Seeing the likes of
Muntari, Aqualani, fossils of Zambrotta, Seedorf and Gattuso UTTERLY DISGUSTS ME.

then of course there's $#!tlegri.

I never understood the $#!t Leonardo gets from some Milanistas...but I CAN say that I have NOTHING but respect for the guy sleep.gif He never settled for the excuse of a squad that he got and always strove for improvements. He was naive in many ways, especially tactically but he had AMBITION....or more correctly...ENTERPRISE.

To be brutal I'd rather we lost trying to get there than going in half@ssed....and the ultra conservative approaches that ultimately leaves us the same result.

Posted by: acid911 Apr 23 2012, 10:05 PM

That's not pessimism, that's reality. happy.gif For all his shortcomings, Leonardo had a downright pathetic squad.

Posted by: Rossoneri7 Apr 24 2012, 07:54 AM

QUOTE (acid911 @ Apr 24 2012, 12:05 AM) *
That's not pessimism, that's reality. happy.gif For all his shortcomings, Leonardo had a downright pathetic squad.


He did, but he also had a treble winning squad in inter and did nothing there either dry.gif

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Apr 24 2012, 08:26 AM

Nah! Leonardo's only saving grace was his personality and that he valued creativity. Other than that he would have been a bad choice. He would need a top top team to do anything of repute.

And please no to Rijkaard!! huh.gif I can't believe he is even being suggested. None of the Dutch coaches bar Hiddink are what we need right now.

Posted by: acid911 Apr 24 2012, 08:26 AM

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 24 2012, 11:54 AM) *
He did, but he also had a treble winning squad in inter and did nothing there either

He was "this" close in doing something with them, but then Pato intervened. unsure.gif innocent.gif I'm surprised you fail to recall that he lifted inter from 15 (or was it 17) points below us, to striking distance in the derby. Had they won that match, in which Pato scored a brace, they'd have been level or a point ahead. And the Scudetto race? Wide open.

And this he did with a severely demoralized squad after that freak of a coach rammed them to the ground. Yes, I am talking about the Spaniard that went by the name of Rafa Benetiz. laugh.gif Or should I say joke of a coach, or coach at all. Sure Leo's overly attacking strategy had its demerits as well, but fault him at your own peril.

He wasn't a great (or even good) coach by any means, but a darn good motivator. And sometimes that's all one needs. I mean he was burdened with a monster known as R80, and he motivated him to score hatricks. The 4-3-3 he employed was hampered by the lack of players - duds like Borriello were playing in the middle, and talents like Huntelaar and Pato were on the wings. That's beyond bad, man, that's beyond bad.

Speaking of duds, "The Dud Of Duds" will win another league title. mad.gif Yes, I'm talking about Borriello.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 24 2012, 02:20 PM

I can't believe Leonardo is being praised; the joke of all coaches.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 25 2012, 08:27 AM

Indeed.

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