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post Nov 14 2016, 06:52 AM
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Surprisingly, a few interesting blog pieces up on Football Italia. Not the usual obvious stuff stretched out over 200 words.

Also an interesting interview with Mihaijlovic. He criticises Berlusconi quite a bit.

- He was forced to play a 4-3-1-2 because of Berlusca. He dropped it after the Napoli defeat and decided enough was enough.
- Romagnoli was considered too expensive by the management. He declared to Berlusca that if Milan sell him for less than the 25 MM they pay for him, he'd personally reimburse Milan the difference. But if they sold him for more, he would pocket the difference. Made a joke that last season Chelsea offered 60 MM.
- Berlusca kept insisting to play Diego Lopez over Donnarumma. Miha gave an ultimatum, that either he fire Miha or keep Miha and Donnarumma starts.
- Said the one person who helped him the most was Galliani and that he considers him a friend.
- Also mentioned his one regret as not being the coach when we played the Coppa Italia final against Juve. Insisted that we would have won with him on the bench.

A few interesting tidbits here.

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post Nov 14 2016, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 13 2016, 02:24 AM) *
On the other hand, Fabregas never was or will be half of the player Bastian is/was. But yes, I get your point.

In the past, yes. But currently? Bastian at his best won't be as good as Cesc at his worst.
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post Nov 15 2016, 06:19 AM
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They're both shite. Sell Romagnoli, buy Wilshere.
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post Nov 15 2016, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Nov 14 2016, 06:52 AM) *
Surprisingly, a few interesting blog pieces up on Football Italia. Not the usual obvious stuff stretched out over 200 words.

Also an interesting interview with Mihaijlovic. He criticises Berlusconi quite a bit.

- He was forced to play a 4-3-1-2 because of Berlusca. He dropped it after the Napoli defeat and decided enough was enough.
- Romagnoli was considered too expensive by the management. He declared to Berlusca that if Milan sell him for less than the 25 MM they pay for him, he'd personally reimburse Milan the difference. But if they sold him for more, he would pocket the difference. Made a joke that last season Chelsea offered 60 MM.
- Berlusca kept insisting to play Diego Lopez over Donnarumma. Miha gave an ultimatum, that either he fire Miha or keep Miha and Donnarumma starts.
- Said the one person who helped him the most was Galliani and that he considers him a friend.
- Also mentioned his one regret as not being the coach when we played the Coppa Italia final against Juve. Insisted that we would have won with him on the bench.

A few interesting tidbits here.

Well it's obvious Miha is still p!ssed off about last season and it's with good reason too

This basically confirms my theory that Berlu and Galliani have been in a little contest with each other to see who can find the next big name in coaching. It's basically The Apprentice: Coaching edition

We've seen this same sh!t being pulled from them on a regular basis now. Allegri was Galliani's pick so he did everything to defend him while Silvio publicly shamed him. And in the end Galliani had to fire him against his will basically. Then came Seedorf who Silvio wanted and Galliani didn't. Galliani had to practically have the pen pried out of his hand to allow Seedorf to sign that contract. And when Seedorf started criticising the transfer market deals and the quality he had on the roster Galliani nearly had a coronary. Galliani then jumped on the opportunity of the player unrest within the squad because Seedorf was hard on a lot of the players who then turned against him. So Galliani managed to convince Silvio that he wasn't the right guy for the job

Then came Pippo who was a combination of both Silvio and Galliani's idea (at least that's the feeling I have) who was a total and complete nightmare, but they allowed him to at least finish the season

And then came Miha, who was Galliani's idea and Silvio clearly didn't like him but went along with it. Thus ending up with Silvio petulantly firing him just a few games out from the end of the season while still in the EL places only to appoint Brocchi, who Silvio was heavily in favour of, and if it were up to him, we'd still be stuck with coach Brocchi

It's just disgusting at this point. And it's another reason why we should be celebrating this circus finally being about to come to an end.

Don't know if it was posted here, but Galliani has confirmed that these will be the final 3 weeks in his position as CEO (and everything else) of Milan

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 14 2016, 08:50 PM) *
In the past, yes. But currently? Bastian at his best won't be as good as Cesc at his worst.

Agreed

We'll be paying a high wage either way. So I'd rather we pay that for someone who still has a bit more to offer. We should have tried to get Bastian earlier, he always indicated that he would have joined Milan if given the opportunity. Now I think it would just be a pointless move for both parties involved

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Nov 15 2016, 06:19 AM) *
They're both shite. Sell Romagnoli, buy Wilshere.

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post Nov 16 2016, 06:05 AM
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Anyone saw the Italy friendly? Sell Bacca, buy Belotti? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Nov 16 2016, 07:43 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 15 2016, 12:53 PM) *
This basically confirms my theory that Berlu and Galliani have been in a little contest with each other to see who can find the next big name in coaching. It's basically The Apprentice: Coaching edition

More like Grumpy Old Men.
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post Nov 16 2016, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Nov 16 2016, 06:05 AM) *
Anyone saw the Italy friendly? Sell Bacca, buy Belotti? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Yeah, Belotti looks like the read deal

Plus he's a Milan fan and won't act like a petulant child when things don't go his way like Bacca does. Or basically court any attention from clubs in the CL but when only WHU are interested he decides to stay.

I really want to see us selling Bacca this summer. He's not the type of striker we need, plus he's certainly not the personality we need in the dressing rooms.

Belotti would be a great buy, but he wouldn't come cheap. We'd basically have to put in anything we get from Bacca's sale (around 30m most likely - if that) and add another 10. Cairo has already slapped a 60m release clause in his new contract so we'd have to shell out above 40m for sure. Especially if he keeps scoring at the rate he is atm



On another note, Romagnoli has a muscle problem which he picked up yesterday, so if he's out, we're f@cked! And if it's something long term, we're double-f@cked!
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post Nov 16 2016, 03:57 PM
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This is why we cannot rely on keeping Donnarumma long term. I simply do not trust Riola.
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post Nov 16 2016, 08:24 PM
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In the end Donna will be the one who decides whether he stays or goes.

The important thing right now is to give him a good contract so we lock him down as soon as he turns 18. If we sell him in the future that will give us the upper hand when negotiating

That being said, WE (as in the club) shouldn't be the party pushing for the move to happen, if we're going to continue being a selling club then we'll know that this sale was fruitless. We need to be able to resist any and all offers as long as the player wants to stay, we shouldn't be trying to manoeuvre for a sale because of a huge cash injection

For now I'm not worried. Raiola (love him or hate him) generally just looks out for his client's best interests. If they want to stay he makes sure they have a great contract and if they want to leave he'll make sure they go to the best option for them and for him

Raiola won't push Donna to leave, if Donna leaves it's because it's his choice, and we all know you can't keep a player that has his heart set elsewhere. And should that situation arise we better make sure to get a record deal for him.

Also, just think back to the Zlatan situation, Raiola wasn't the one who pushed for the move even though it would benefit him a lot financially. Galliani was the one pushing Ibra out against his will. Raiola was willing to do as Zlatan decided. And when a move became inevitable he made sure to negotiate the best deal for his client.
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post Nov 17 2016, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 16 2016, 09:24 PM) *
In the end Donna will be the one who decides whether he stays or goes.

The important thing right now is to give him a good contract so we lock him down as soon as he turns 18. If we sell him in the future that will give us the upper hand when negotiating

That being said, WE (as in the club) shouldn't be the party pushing for the move to happen, if we're going to continue being a selling club then we'll know that this sale was fruitless. We need to be able to resist any and all offers as long as the player wants to stay, we shouldn't be trying to manoeuvre for a sale because of a huge cash injection

For now I'm not worried. Raiola (love him or hate him) generally just looks out for his client's best interests. If they want to stay he makes sure they have a great contract and if they want to leave he'll make sure they go to the best option for them and for him

Raiola won't push Donna to leave, if Donna leaves it's because it's his choice, and we all know you can't keep a player that has his heart set elsewhere. And should that situation arise we better make sure to get a record deal for him.

Also, just think back to the Zlatan situation, Raiola wasn't the one who pushed for the move even though it would benefit him a lot financially. Galliani was the one pushing Ibra out against his will. Raiola was willing to do as Zlatan decided. And when a move became inevitable he made sure to negotiate the best deal for his client.

I agree we should try to keep him, and that includes giving him a good contract as well as not putting him on the market. However, I do not share your optimism relating to Raiola. Yes, he will work in the interest of his clients ... to a point. I believe he makes most of his money on transfers, so you have to expect him to be nudging his clients in that direction whenever he can.
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QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Nov 17 2016, 09:39 AM) *
I agree we should try to keep him, and that includes giving him a good contract as well as not putting him on the market. However, I do not share your optimism relating to Raiola. Yes, he will work in the interest of his clients ... to a point. I believe he makes most of his money on transfers, so you have to expect him to be nudging his clients in that direction whenever he can.

True, but if that were the case Ibra would have left Paris earlier, rather than just going to United for free (for example) Sure he made a pile of cash from the Pogba sale, but that's not the case for all his players

He gets a cut out of any wages his players make so getting them the best contract, no matter where they're playing is also an important factor

Like I said, I personally think that this all comes down to the will of the player, if Donna wants to stay, he'll stay, no matter what is whispered in his ear. If he wants to go, he'll go
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He should stay. With the new management lined-up, I think he will.
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Nov 15 2016, 09:19 AM) *
They're both shite. Sell Romagnoli, buy Wilshere.


Yes they are! But Romagnoli we should sell to Chelsea for the 50 million. Get two defenders with the 50M. Afterall, its a team in rebuilding and I do not see a Nesta in Romagnoli at the moment plus its rare for such coincidences. Bring back Silva!
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 17 2016, 09:31 PM) *
He should stay. With the new management lined-up, I think he will.

We'll see, Raiola already indicated this. He's said that they want to see who the new owners will be and what their intentions are before committing.

I just hope that a good contract is already lined up for when he turns 18 and we lock him down for the next 5 years. We should also put in a ridiculous release clause in there, and if someone comes knocking we just point to that. Either pay up or gtfo sucker!

QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 17 2016, 10:11 PM) *
Yes they are! But Romagnoli we should sell to Chelsea for the 50 million. Get two defenders with the 50M. Afterall, its a team in rebuilding and I do not see a Nesta in Romagnoli at the moment plus its rare for such coincidences. Bring back Silva!

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) ????!!

No no no!

Selling Romagnoli would be a huge mistake. I can't believe anyone would even consider this, especially for the measly sum of 50m. If David Luiz is worth that Alessio is worth double! FFS why do we try to devalue our players so much. We have a handful of gems in this team, we either guard them with our lives or we bleed anyone buying them dry!

This is a symptom of being under Galliani's influence for so long. Selling Silva and Ibra for a combined 60m was one of the most ridiculous deals ever made, and we've come to the point where we simply accept such garbage deals and we're okay with giving any and all our players away for practically nothing

Juve sell their bench warmers for huge sums, we can't get a single penny for Menez, Just ridiculous

Romagnoli is an exceptionally talented CB. And people seem to forget that he's only 21. He's mature beyond his years in the way he plays, selling out to get Chelsea's breadcrumbs would be stupid. 50m won't get us someone who has a potential threshold as high as Alessio's, and it certainly won't get us two of them.

And please, forget about Silva. He's not coming here. He'll most likely extend at PSG because he's comfortable there. If we have money available we simply should not be looking to sell ANY of our players. This sell to buy thing is also another syndrome of the Galliani disease. If we have cash, as we're supposedly going to, then we shouldn't be selling our best players to try and replace them with other ones. We should be ADDING to what we have, not making one step forward and two backwards
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post Nov 18 2016, 08:04 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 18 2016, 12:04 AM) *
We'll see, Raiola already indicated this. He's said that they want to see who the new owners will be and what their intentions are before committing.

I just hope that a good contract is already lined up for when he turns 18 and we lock him down for the next 5 years. We should also put in a ridiculous release clause in there, and if someone comes knocking we just point to that. Either pay up or gtfo sucker!


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No no no!

Selling Romagnoli would be a huge mistake. I can't believe anyone would even consider this, especially for the measly sum of 50m. If David Luiz is worth that Alessio is worth double! FFS why do we try to devalue our players so much. We have a handful of gems in this team, we either guard them with our lives or we bleed anyone buying them dry!

This is a symptom of being under Galliani's influence for so long. Selling Silva and Ibra for a combined 60m was one of the most ridiculous deals ever made, and we've come to the point where we simply accept such garbage deals and we're okay with giving any and all our players away for practically nothing

Juve sell their bench warmers for huge sums, we can't get a single penny for Menez, Just ridiculous

Romagnoli is an exceptionally talented CB. And people seem to forget that he's only 21. He's mature beyond his years in the way he plays, selling out to get Chelsea's breadcrumbs would be stupid. 50m won't get us someone who has a potential threshold as high as Alessio's, and it certainly won't get us two of them.

And please, forget about Silva. He's not coming here. He'll most likely extend at PSG because he's comfortable there. If we have money available we simply should not be looking to sell ANY of our players. This sell to buy thing is also another syndrome of the Galliani disease. If we have cash, as we're supposedly going to, then we shouldn't be selling our best players to try and replace them with other ones. We should be ADDING to what we have, not making one step forward and two backwards

In general, I agree with what you say. However, we will not get infinite money, at least not right away, so we will have to do some selling (preferable Bacca and not Romagnoli).
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