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 24/04/07 - CL - Man Utd v Milan |
 Apr 13 2007, 07:55 PM
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Smoking Bianco  Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191  |
QUOTE (mishie @ Apr 13 2007, 09:51 PM) As usual in england things get all out of proportion after 1 performance!! I firmly believe we can beat Manure, yes they played well against Roma but god Roma were awful and don't forget manure were coming off 2 straight defeats so there form wasn't all that great. Ronaldo wasn't that great the last time we played them, rooney 1 goal in 18months of C.L football to me the midfield is the key and i can't believe that Carlo will allow manure as much space as Roma did. Compress the midfield which in turns limits the space in which ronaldo can use his pace and that's alot of his threat away and are passing will destroy them! i predict a draw at old trafford and a 2 goal victory at the San Siro (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)  Agreed, except fpr one minor detail, we will win at Old Trafford, Milan will rule Old Trafford (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) |
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Apr 13 2007, 09:00 PM
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Berretti  Group: Moderators Posts: 12,004 Joined: 1-August 05 From: Torquay Member No.: 90 |
QUOTE (mishie @ Apr 13 2007, 06:51 PM) Ronaldo wasn't that great the last time we played them Exactly, there's our problem right there... |
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Apr 13 2007, 10:31 PM
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Pulcini 97 Group: Full Members Posts: 129 Joined: 28-September 05 From: Santiago, Chile Member No.: 522 |
we should play the same way we did it against bayern, with the christmas tree formation, we should be able to control ronaldo, the same way we did with van bommel and salihamidb!tch, and for rooney, we have nesta (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) , just be confident, milan will be in the final again (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
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Apr 13 2007, 11:00 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,622 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (javierk128 @ Apr 13 2007, 09:31 PM) we should play the same way we did it against bayern, with the christmas tree formation, we should be able to control ronaldo, the same way we did with van bommel and salihamidb!tch, and for rooney, we have nesta (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) , just be confident, milan will be in the final again (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) You are not seriously comapring those 2 with Ronaldo are you? The best way to play is by getting the upper hand in midfield, thus playing with 1 striker. Doubleing up on their wingers everytime they get the ball will be key. The fact that they play such an open game without any clear defensive midfielder will suite us better since for once Kaka won't have to worry about being constantly marked by 2 players. Pippo can make Ferdinand make a couple of goofs also. Imo Rooney won't be much of a problem, especially now that Nesta is back in his best for. Strifling their wingers will be key. |
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Apr 14 2007, 03:05 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 14 2007, 01:00 AM) Pippo can make Ferdinand make a couple of goofs also. OK now please.. Pippo is useless. He scored against Bayern but he was off side and it was so easy Christian Maldini would have netted it! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Every other time he touched the ball he always lost it! Bayern's defence was crappy, neither Van Buyten nor Lucio were where they were supposed to be (not only in Pippo's goal but in many other occasions too)... No more Pippo please. Ferdinand is going to kill him!! I mean it, he'll be taken to hospital only with a touch from Rio... |
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Apr 14 2007, 04:14 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 13 2007, 08:05 PM) OK now please.. Pippo is useless. He scored against Bayern but he was off side and it was so easy Christian Maldini would have netted it! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Every other time he touched the ball he always lost it! Bayern's defence was crappy, neither Van Buyten nor Lucio were where they were supposed to be (not only in Pippo's goal but in many other occasions too)... No more Pippo please. Ferdinand is going to kill him!! I mean it, he'll be taken to hospital only with a touch from Rio... You speak as if you don't know anything about super Pippo. There is a very good chance Gila would have missed that kind of chance... This is what Pippo is all about... He scores. He was probably 50% when he played against Bayern... I don't blame him one bit for the way he played. This season might not be his best, but always remember, if it wasn't for him, we wouldn't be playing in the CL right now. He scored when it mattered and he will continue to do so... Forza Pippo! Forza Milan! This post has been edited by pKillerMax: Apr 14 2007, 04:15 AM |
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Apr 14 2007, 06:02 AM
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Pulcini Provinciali 98 Group: Full Members Posts: 86 Joined: 10-March 07 From: Perth, Australia Member No.: 3,653 |
The second goal was classic Pippo. How do you give a guy like him a rating for the match he played on Wednesday night? He was caught offside on two or three occassions and his touch was slightly off. And then BANG, a chance presents itself and he finishes it beautifully. He may not always look in the game but you can be sure that when he has a sharp chance to score he will almost always take it.
The guy is so clever with his positioning and the way he basically lives on the shoulder of the last defender. He'll get called offside a few times every match but he'll also create a goal with the clever positions he takes up. A perfect example is his goal on Wednesday where he snuck behind Van Buyten and stayed in line with the last defender (well, almost anyway). He doesn't have the range of movement and bring other players into the game like Gilardino does but he is very cunning. It was great to see his reaction after he scored the goal. I have missed seeing Inzaghi show that type of passion. I was so happy that he proved he is much more than a diver or goal poacher, as Hitzfeld had implied he was in the build up to the match. Underestimate Inzaghi at your peril! Pippo Inzaghi, segna per noi! |
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Apr 14 2007, 09:51 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,622 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 14 2007, 02:05 AM) OK now please.. Pippo is useless. He scored against Bayern but he was off side and it was so easy Christian Maldini would have netted it! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Every other time he touched the ball he always lost it! Bayern's defence was crappy, neither Van Buyten nor Lucio were where they were supposed to be (not only in Pippo's goal but in many other occasions too)... No more Pippo please. Ferdinand is going to kill him!! I mean it, he'll be taken to hospital only with a touch from Rio... You make Ferdinand sound like he's Nesta (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) He's not that good and prone to making idiotic mistakes at times, I've probably watched every Man U game this season and he does make 1 mistake per 2 matches. Some are subtle ones that he recovers from, some are big ones. Pippo dispite the fact that he doesn't know how to play football he is smart, and a tricky customer to handle. He's like a rodant for a defender, that's why they hate him. He will give them a hard time, I'm sure of this. Also judging him on the basis of the Munich game is wrong since he was barely 50% fit and he admitted himself that he was playing through the pain. He will be ready against Man U, there's no doubt about that. QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Apr 14 2007, 03:14 AM) You speak as if you don't know anything about super Pippo. There is a very good chance Gila would have missed that kind of chance... This is what Pippo is all about... He scores. He was probably 50% when he played against Bayern... I don't blame him one bit for the way he played. This season might not be his best, but always remember, if it wasn't for him, we wouldn't be playing in the CL right now. He scored when it mattered and he will continue to do so... Forza Pippo! Forza Milan! Exactly. We talk about the offside goal, but that's the sort of luck Pippo has, if it was Gila and still would have scored then we would have been brought back for offside, I'm pretty sure of this. Plus this is the semi finals, we need experiance out there, and no one can put you to the sword better then pippo |
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Apr 14 2007, 12:50 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 14 2007, 11:51 AM) You make Ferdinand sound like he's Nesta (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I meant to make Pippo sound like he's in a bad condition... edit: (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) You know I would never do that!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 14 2007, 11:51 AM) He's not that good and prone to making idiotic mistakes at times, I've probably watched every Man U game this season and he does make 1 mistake per 2 matches. Some are subtle ones that he recovers from, some are big ones. I haven't watched more than 5 or 6 game of United this season but from what I've seen Ferdinand does not make mistakes like the one Van Buyten did in Pippo's goal. I've seen him make bad tackles and semi-good clearances but tactically he didn't make a single mistake. But this is only from 5 games... Van Buyten made a clear tactical mistake by leaving his position. In that occasion (40m from goal, where a shot by Seedorf would be just too ambitious) a defender is not supposed to rush to the ball and destroy the defence line especially when he's marking a player. Anyway... this is not about Rio. It's about Pippo. I exaggerated when I said he's useless, he is always a threat. But how many offside goals is he going to score? If he plays I WISH he proves me wrong! I'd be happy if he did... and I will be supporting him to!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) This post has been edited by dst: Apr 14 2007, 12:54 PM |
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Apr 14 2007, 01:53 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,622 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 14 2007, 11:50 AM) I meant to make Pippo sound like he's in a bad condition... edit: (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) You know I would never do that!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE (dst @ Apr 14 2007, 11:50 AM) I haven't watched more than 5 or 6 game of United this season but from what I've seen Ferdinand does not make mistakes like the one Van Buyten did in Pippo's goal. I've seen him make bad tackles and semi-good clearances but tactically he didn't make a single mistake. But this is only from 5 games... I've seen him do them frequantly, it's more losing concentration and making a bad pass that would put his team mates under pressure, those are the most common things I've seen him do, and when a preditor like Inzaghi is urking around that is something that you don't want to do. I'm pretty sure that Pippo would easily get on his nerves. I guess we'll see how effective he'll be against him, even if I suspect that Gila will play in OT and Pippo in SS. QUOTE (dst @ Apr 14 2007, 11:50 AM) Van Buyten made a clear tactical mistake by leaving his position. In that occasion (40m from goal, where a shot by Seedorf would be just too ambitious) a defender is not supposed to rush to the ball and destroy the defence line especially when he's marking a player. Van Buyten is just a total joke, he should really be moved up as a striker, he would be much more successful in that position. QUOTE (dst @ Apr 14 2007, 11:50 AM) Anyway... this is not about Rio. It's about Pippo. I exaggerated when I said he's useless, he is always a threat. But how many offside goals is he going to score? If he plays I WISH he proves me wrong! I'd be happy if he did... and I will be supporting him to!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) Aren't all his goals practically offside? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) But I understood what you're trying to say, but Rio without Vidic next to him is bound to do one mistake, I'm sure of this. |
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Apr 14 2007, 08:15 PM
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Yet amid the celebrations of an eighth final appearance under Ferguson, and the prospect of a mouth-watering clash with Chelsea, the concerns in the United camp were obvious following the loss of Rio Ferdinand to a groin injury.
With John O'Shea missing, Nemanja Vidic and Mikael Silvestre sidelined with long-term problems and Gary Neville at least a week away from a return to action from his ankle problem, Ferguson's defensive options have been ravaged to the extent Darren Fletcher was forced into the right-back role, with rookie Youth Cup star Craig Cathcart the only alternative. |
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Apr 14 2007, 08:59 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,622 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (fresh_prince7 @ Apr 14 2007, 07:15 PM) Yet amid the celebrations of an eighth final appearance under Ferguson, and the prospect of a mouth-watering clash with Chelsea, the concerns in the United camp were obvious following the loss of Rio Ferdinand to a groin injury. With John O'Shea missing, Nemanja Vidic and Mikael Silvestre sidelined with long-term problems and Gary Neville at least a week away from a return to action from his ankle problem, Ferguson's defensive options have been ravaged to the extent Darren Fletcher was forced into the right-back role, with rookie Youth Cup star Craig Cathcart the only alternative. Their probalems will have gone down by then with only Vidic probably still being out. |
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Apr 14 2007, 09:18 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 14 2007, 10:59 PM) Their probalems will have gone down by then with only Vidic probably still being out. Sometimes groin injuries are grave... in any case it's their attack that puzzles me, not their defence. |
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Apr 14 2007, 09:19 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,622 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 14 2007, 08:18 PM) Sometimes groin injuries are grave... in any case it's their attack that puzzles me, not their defence. Why? |
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Apr 14 2007, 09:28 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 14 2007, 11:19 PM) Why? Cause their power is their attack... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
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