Printable Version of Topic

Click here to view this topic in its original format

AC Milan - Milanfan.com _ Football Discussion _ [IT] Serie A 2017-18

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 26 2017, 05:18 PM

In less then a half hour we'll know the Serie A draw for this season. Probably a suitable moment for opening this topic.

Posted by: Fishdoll Jul 26 2017, 06:40 PM

Watching the draw as it unfolds. Matchdays 7 and 8 should be interesting: Milan-Roma and then the derby.

Posted by: han2503 Jul 26 2017, 07:57 PM


Posted by: han2503 Jul 26 2017, 07:58 PM

Well, it's not the easiest of starts but it certainly could have been much worse

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Jul 26 2017, 08:39 PM

Yep. Week 7 and 8 definitively most interesting.

Posted by: X-Offender Jul 26 2017, 11:07 PM

Would have liked the first game at the San Siro, but whatever.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Jul 27 2017, 09:44 AM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 27 2017, 05:37 AM) *
Would have liked the first game at the San Siro, but whatever.


No we can't. We have to alternate with Inter on the first game being played at home every season. So last season we were at home, therefore this season we play away.

Posted by: Fishdoll Aug 14 2017, 12:26 PM

So, Lazio beat the Gobbi in the Supercoppa. The winning goal was possible courtesy of some really bad defending by one Mattia De Sciglio (who let Lukaku past him. Lukaku then centered the ball for the Lazio youth product Murgia to score).

My takeaways: Lazio look better than I thought they would. They're organized and have a solid-looking team. The gobbi are a mess defensively, still. Allegri's reorganization didn't work at all and I found it rather telling that at the end of the game he spent time on the pitch yelling at Chiellini. It seems all is still not well in the white and black half of Torino.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 14 2017, 03:07 PM

QUOTE (Fishdoll @ Aug 14 2017, 12:26 PM) *
So, Lazio beat the Gobbi in the Supercoppa. The winning goal was possible courtesy of some really bad defending by one Mattia De Sciglio (who let Lukaku past him. Lukaku then centered the ball for the Lazio youth product Murgia to score).

My takeaways: Lazio look better than I thought they would. They're organized and have a solid-looking team. The gobbi are a mess defensively, still. Allegri's reorganization didn't work at all and I found it rather telling that at the end of the game he spent time on the pitch yelling at Chiellini. It seems all is still not well in the white and black half of Torino.

Juve were terrible is all areas of the pitch.

What was most telling is their build up game without Bonucci is gone completely, so Allegri will have to have a major rethink in terms of tactics without him

Btw, isn't it ironic how the Inzaghi brothers turned out? One was an exceptional player but so far hasn't shown that he can really make it as a coach. while the other was a pretty average player in his day yet has instantly shown that he will become an exceptional coach in the coming years.

Lazio have been doing so well this past season because of Inzaghi imo, his tactical know how is really impressive. I really like how Lazio play, their game against Juve yesterday was perfect. I think he'll be the next great Italian coach

As for Juve in general, I think they'll struggle a bit at the start, they're showing cracks no doubt but they'll still steam roll the majority of the league.

If they get off to a really bad start like the season they had prior to the last, I can see Napoli taking advantage of it

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 15 2017, 11:25 AM

What's funny is that the typical Allegri treats all start showing now that the boat is shaken. For example clinging on Mandzukić who's become the new and improved Emanuelson, spinning around with Dybala as AM then SS, waiting for his team to show up, making atypical changes, playing MDS on the right, preferring Barzagli at 37 on the right to a fit Lichtsteiner, gosh I could go on and on...

Posted by: Danny Aug 15 2017, 11:51 AM

I must be the only one on here not caring what Juve do. They're vulnerable. It's up to us to exploit it, not obsess over it.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 15 2017, 02:32 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 15 2017, 11:51 AM) *
I must be the only one on here not caring what Juve do. They're vulnerable. It's up to us to exploit it, not obsess over it.

It's just interesting to see what they'll do this season. I think Napoli will be the ones to benefit from any Juve vulnerabilities, not us. We're not there yet imo

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 16 2017, 08:38 AM

I don't think Napoli is there tbh. Don't get me wrong, they have a solid team, but - for some reason they are vastly overrated IMO.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 16 2017, 08:40 AM

QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 15 2017, 01:51 PM) *
I must be the only one on here not caring what Juve do. They're vulnerable. It's up to us to exploit it, not obsess over it.

It's not an obsession Danny, but probably the need to scrutinize their dealings, tactics and mental state because Juventus is the team to beat for the scudetto and they have been for a long while now.

Posted by: Danny Aug 16 2017, 10:28 AM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 16 2017, 08:40 AM) *
It's not an obsession Danny, but probably the need to scrutinize their dealings, tactics and mental state because Juventus is the team to beat for the scudetto and they have been for a long while now.


We can't change any of the above so no point obsessing about it. We've done some damage with Bonucci - let's concentrate on our own club and let whatever happens in Turin, happen.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 16 2017, 10:33 AM

Man, we can't change anything regarding Milan or any other club for that matter. If you look at it in a certain way, all discussions here are pure larpurlartism.

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 16 2017, 12:07 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 16 2017, 05:03 PM) *
Man, we can't change anything regarding Milan or any other club for that matter. If you look at it in a certain way, all discussions here are pure larpurlartism.

I had to google that word. laugh.gif

Posted by: Danny Aug 16 2017, 12:23 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 16 2017, 10:33 AM) *
Man, we can't change anything regarding Milan or any other club for that matter. If you look at it in a certain way, all discussions here are pure larpurlartism.


Of course - and it's not metaphysical either but that doesn't stop you.

Posted by: Danny Aug 16 2017, 12:23 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 16 2017, 12:07 PM) *
I had to google that word. laugh.gif


Bloody Indians!

Posted by: Jack Sparrow Aug 16 2017, 01:45 PM

QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 16 2017, 06:53 PM) *
Bloody Indians!


What the hell do you know about speaking English you crazy Scot?

Posted by: Danny Aug 16 2017, 02:40 PM

QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 16 2017, 01:45 PM) *
What the hell do you know about speaking English you crazy Scot?


I spoke proper Enlish.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 16 2017, 10:25 PM

Football surely isn't metaphysical tongue.gif

Posted by: Danny Aug 17 2017, 12:51 AM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 16 2017, 10:25 PM) *
Football surely isn't metaphysical tongue.gif


Anything can be metaphyical if you put your mind to it wink.gif

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 17 2017, 10:23 AM

QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 17 2017, 02:51 AM) *
Anything can be metaphyical if you put your mind to it wink.gif

Well, perhaps smile.gif

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 26 2017, 01:40 PM

http://www.football-italia.net/108772/thohir-makes-inter-gaffe

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: William405 Aug 26 2017, 03:58 PM

Yeah, made me laugh. laugh.gif

Posted by: Ry4n Aug 26 2017, 05:14 PM

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/football/serie-a/genoa-juventus-92010/

Juve 2-0 down

bet they will come back 2-3...

Posted by: William405 Aug 26 2017, 06:00 PM

They came back 2-2. Honestly, they look really shaky at the back. Genoa were capable to slice through their midfield. No doubt they will improve their performance as time goes on though.

No idea what to think about the VAR. It's only fair I guess, but we're having much more penalties at the moment than usual.

Posted by: Ry4n Aug 26 2017, 06:34 PM

2-3 to predictable...

Posted by: han2503 Aug 26 2017, 08:04 PM

Juve are definitely much more shake then their usual selves, but as usual luck goes their way.

Also, why is Mandzukic still starting on the wings when they spent 80m on wingers this summer? So typical from Allegri

Posted by: han2503 Aug 26 2017, 08:05 PM

Roma 1-0 Inter

Great goal from Dzeko

But I have to say that Inter have been impressive so far. Spalletti has definitely improved them this season

Posted by: d'Arc.LP Aug 26 2017, 09:47 PM

1-3. Not bad from Inter.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 26 2017, 09:50 PM

Good win for Inter. Even though if you watched the whole game you've seen what Roma managed to miss to win this one. Not impressed by Inter so far, but they're certainly stronger and more organized then last year.

Then again, Spaletti usually tends to star well off in the league and then by Christmas troubles start multiplying.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 26 2017, 09:53 PM

Oh and VAR is a complete and utter disaster.

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 26 2017, 10:51 PM

Roma didn't deserve to lose but that's football for you. Inter were cynical and got the 3 points.

Posted by: Ry4n Aug 26 2017, 11:02 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 27 2017, 02:51 AM) *
Roma didn't deserve to lose but that's football for you. Inter were clinical and got the 3 points.


Tis a shame i hoped for a draw.

Posted by: han2503 Aug 27 2017, 04:45 PM

Roma hit the post 3 times and cut Inter wide open multiple times. Inter should have lost this by 3. That being said, maybe this lulls them into a false sense of security so the downfall later on will be much greater.

Spalletti has no doubt improved them in the attacking phase but their defensive problems from last season are still very much present

Posted by: Ry4n Aug 27 2017, 06:13 PM

QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 27 2017, 08:45 PM) *
Roma hit the post 3 times and cut Inter wide open multiple times. Inter should have lost this by 3. That being said, maybe this lulls them into a false sense of security so the downfall later on will be much greater.

Spalletti has no doubt improved them in the attacking phase but their defensive problems from last season are still very much present

agreed.

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 27 2017, 10:07 PM

Anyone saw Belotti's goal today? What a gem! So bummed we couldn't sign him.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 27 2017, 11:05 PM

Well, Cairo made sure of that.

Posted by: X-Offender Aug 28 2017, 11:37 PM

So, Roma signed Schick for 42M (5M loan + 35M obligation to buy + 2M bonuses).

I ask, why? Schick is a pure CF, and they already have Dzeko. Shouldn't they have signed a winger to replace Salah?

EDIT: Well, after looking at a few clips on YouTube, seems like he's capable of playing on the left as well. Was under the impression he only played upfront.

Posted by: Fishdoll Sep 6 2017, 02:16 PM

So, the season ticket stats were released today in Gazzetta. Milan has 31,000 season ticket holders this year, an increase of 14,000. The enthusiasm is definitely back.

Posted by: amancik Sep 20 2017, 09:43 PM

Napoli has been lethal this season. The best team in Serie A so far. Made a mockery out of Lazio.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 21 2017, 09:21 AM

QUOTE (amancik @ Sep 20 2017, 09:43 PM) *
Napoli has been lethal this season. The best team in Serie A so far. Made a mockery out of Lazio.

Sarri is a genius.

Did you know that even Mihajlovic gets paid better than him? He's 6th in the coaches chart. If this Montella thing doesn't work we should try to go all out for him. Offer him what he deserves to be getting

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 21 2017, 09:37 AM

Yet somehow I don't think he's the type of coach that thrives at Milan or Juventus. Just a hunch, nevertheless.

Posted by: Danny Sep 21 2017, 12:02 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 21 2017, 09:37 AM) *
Yet somehow I don't think he's the type of coach that thrives at Milan or Juventus. Just a hunch, nevertheless.


Have to agree. He does well with high expectation, but Milan are higher than that.

Posted by: han2503 Sep 21 2017, 12:14 PM

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 21 2017, 09:37 AM) *
Yet somehow I don't think he's the type of coach that thrives at Milan or Juventus. Just a hunch, nevertheless.

For me it doesn't matter what Club he's coaching, he's just a great tactician.

QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 21 2017, 12:02 PM) *
Have to agree. He does well with high expectation, but Milan are higher than that.

Napoli have set high expectations for themselves this season. Which is to win the league. They might not achieve that because Juve have a better overall squad, but so far they're keeping pace, and look good while doing it

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Sep 21 2017, 06:23 PM

You make it sound like it's mid season. So far they faced only Lazio from the upper table sides and also took a pretty hard and unexpected knock in the CL.

Sarri is good, but if he wants to make a real step forward he has to win something or at least make a good CL run.

Posted by: Fishdoll Sep 25 2017, 03:32 PM

Napoli's Milik can't catch a break. He's torn his ACL again.

Posted by: X-Offender Apr 29 2018, 09:47 PM

So, the scudetto once again to Juve. I really thought this time it would be the time, with the way things were going last night. Those two late goals changed everything.

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Apr 29 2018, 09:50 PM

Yes. But Napoli has to learn a lesson here. You can't win a big title with only 15-16 players in (actual) play.

Posted by: han2503 Apr 30 2018, 06:49 PM

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 29 2018, 09:47 PM) *
So, the scudetto once again to Juve. I really thought this time it would be the time, with the way things were going last night. Those two late goals changed everything.

Napoli really bottled this, Juve gave them multiple chances, but they drew too many games, and any time the pressure was on them to get the result after Juve had already played they literally shat their pants. Unless us or Inter get our sh!t together. Juve will continue to steam roll the league as all the other teams are incapable of pulling it together especially in the big moments.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 29 2018, 09:50 PM) *
Yes. But Napoli has to learn a lesson here. You can't win a big title with only 15-16 players in (actual) play.

Sure, Sarri is too attached to a certain group of players, and you can blame fatigue, but let's not forget that they bowed out of the CL, EL and Coppa at the first hurdle so they could solely focus on the league, they've played fewer games than Juve, and in the cup games rotated heavily so their first 11 didn't play a lot of those extra non-league games.

I think the fact that they couldn't show up for the big moments is more the problem than any sort of fatigue. Once Juve got their heads in front after Napoli lost to Roma, I think everyone knew, deep down, that they were never going to relinquish their position, by hook or by crook they would win the title again

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 19 2018, 07:31 PM

Are we going to create a new league thread or?

Posted by: William405 Aug 19 2018, 10:04 PM

Yes, why not ^^

Posted by: han2503 Aug 21 2018, 09:14 PM

Yes, we should

Hopefully we'll have more active users this season

Should I do it or will you Fillipo?

Posted by: Fillipo Simone Aug 25 2018, 07:11 PM

I'll do it now, no problem smile.gif

Powered by Invision Power Board (http://www.invisionboard.com)
© Invision Power Services (http://www.invisionpower.com)