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post Jun 24 2014, 08:15 PM
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Prandelli's resigned.
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post Jun 24 2014, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 24 2014, 08:15 PM) *
Prandelli's resigned.

I think after that he had no further option but to.

He made mistakes, mistakes which cost Italy big time. I don't think there was any going back after this
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post Jun 24 2014, 08:24 PM
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Better to resign now ASAP than get fired too.
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post Jun 24 2014, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 24 2014, 09:47 PM) *
Yeah, agreed.

@ Filippo, don't know what you're really talking about Uruguay were getting just as stuck in as Italy and made their own fair share of dirty fouls.

That being said it still does not justify a straight red for that challenge

I'm talking about the overall mess. Everyone here is right. If you say Chiellini deserved to be carded (yellow) throughout the game, you're right. Same for all Juventini defenders, same for Suarez, Rios, Gonzalez and a few more Uruguay players. My point is, the whole game was a mess.

QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Jun 24 2014, 10:08 PM) *
Please, that is as weak argument as it comes. It's not even the third bite of his career and Chiellini did nothing remotely close to deserve that. That dirty motherfucker should be at zoo and not playing football.

Ref totally ruined the game. You can argue about the Marchisio's red but if Suarez was sent off like he should have been, it's a completely different game with 10 vs 10, ten minutes to go and I don't think they would score.

It's a poor argument, Suarez should have been sent off there. But still, Chiellini was also on the verge of being sent off during the game. It was a dirty match on both sides, that's my argument.
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post Jun 24 2014, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 24 2014, 10:21 PM) *
I think after that he had no further option but to.

He made mistakes, mistakes which cost Italy big time. I don't think there was any going back after this

I'd like Capello to be his heir, but it seems he's stuck with Russia, plus seeing how he handles the Russians, I'm unsure. But God please no Spalletti!!
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post Jun 24 2014, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 24 2014, 09:26 PM) *
I'd like Capello to be his heir, but it seems he's stuck with Russia, plus seeing how he handles the Russians, I'm unsure. But God please no Spalletti!!

I don't think he's cut out for international management personally.
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post Jun 24 2014, 08:33 PM
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post Jun 24 2014, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 24 2014, 08:25 PM) *
I'm talking about the overall mess. Everyone here is right. If you say Chiellini deserved to be carded (yellow) throughout the game, you're right. Same for all Juventini defenders, same for Suarez, Rios, Gonzalez and a few more Uruguay players. My point is, the whole game was a mess.

Still you said it like the previous fouls made by the Italians justified Marchisio's unfair sending off.

A sending off that changed the balance of the game completely because I really couldn't see where Uruguay where going to get a goal from before that.

No matter what happened before hand, Marchisio's challenge was never a red. And that's the issue here.

And to then try to justify Suarez acting like a complete animal by saying "Chiellini provoked him" is even worse in my books

No amount of provocation should ever mean that a player is justified for BITING an opposing player, that is just despicable!!!

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 24 2014, 08:26 PM) *
I'd like Capello to be his heir, but it seems he's stuck with Russia, plus seeing how he handles the Russians, I'm unsure. But God please no Spalletti!!

Nah, Capello is just not right for NT management, he's too rigid and set in his ways. It would be a mistake to appoint either him or Spalletti atm. Frankly the only man good enough for the job atm is Carlo imo
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post Jun 24 2014, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Jun 24 2014, 08:33 PM) *

Very clear that there was no elbowing going on from Chiellini, he just held out his hand slightly when he felt Suarez running into him. Suarez did that completely unprovoked and he needs to be banned from professional game with the NT for a long while.

The fact that that's not the first time he did that makes it even worse, it's obvious he hasn't learnt anything

Also the fact that the game was still at 0-0 when this happens makes the fact that he was allowed to stay on the field even worse
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post Jun 24 2014, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 24 2014, 09:40 PM) *
Well, all in all a messy match. I think Marchisio got, so to speak, a cumulative red. Not for his own doing, but for all of Italy's dirty fouls before - and Bonucci, Barzagli, Chiellini had many of those. Suarez acted like usual, he's a wild beast without any temper, but Chiellini did provoke him.

In the end, the ref made a mess but it could have ended up even worse.

I thought both sides were hard but I didn't see anything dirty. Officiating overall was bad.

QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 24 2014, 09:46 PM) *
In all seriousness though, who do you think tastes better, Vidic or Chiellini?

Well we can only trust Suarez's reactions to determine that so I'd say Vidic.
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post Jun 24 2014, 08:37 PM
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Worst Italy I've ever seen, even worse than Lippi's 2010 horror show. Simply unconceivable how they couldn't do a single thing right. No decent combinations in midfield, not a single danger in attack. No grit, no determination, nothing.

Balotelli is the most overrated piece of crap player on the face of the earth. I pray to god some numskull like Wenger or those clowns at Monaco are still willing to spend big cash on him, cos I can't stand his sight any more.

And in all honestly, I'm bewildered at all the comments claiming it was a red on Marchisio. Just, wow.
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post Jun 24 2014, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 24 2014, 07:15 PM) *
Prandelli's resigned.


Dignified and correct unlike Hodgson who's managing to make England worse than Taylor or MacLaren ever did. But Prandelli hasn't resigned, he's only offered it. Not yet accepted.
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post Jun 24 2014, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jun 24 2014, 08:38 PM) *
Dignified and correct unlike Hodgson who's managing to make England worse than Taylor or MacLaren ever did. But Prandelli hasn't resigned, he's only offered it. Not yet accepted.

I'd find it very strange were the FIGC not to accept his resignation at this point
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post Jun 24 2014, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 24 2014, 08:39 PM) *
I'd find it very strange were the FIGC not to accept his resignation at this point


Abete (FIGC president) has resigned as well.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 24 2014, 08:37 PM) *
And in all honestly, I'm bewildered at all the comments claiming it was a red on Marchisio. Just, wow.

Agreed, how that was ever a red card is beyond me!

Like I said in my first post after the match, Italy never did anything to justify going through with the attitude they've shown in these last 2 matches and playing for the draw today was just asking for it, but the refereeing decisions today completely swung the game over to Uruguay
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